THIS EPISODE FUCKING SUCKS.
I like to remember the times when steven actually had to fucking DEVELOP POWERS, but now he's just like "hurr durr ill just become a fucking MELON whenever the FUCK I want after 1 time of trying it out"
This is the laziest development and plot writing i've seen in a show in a long time, and i've seen teen titans go. The show's only appeal is the music (which is starting to go down as well) and the backgrounds (fucking marvelous)
also yeah let's realize these fucking MELONS took down a fucking IMMORTAL GEM, TRAINED FROM THOUSANDS OF BATTLES
I know i'm an episode behind from the current but jesus FUCK this is pissing me off
what do you guys think about the recent steven universe episodes?
Well, he could enter minds through sleep since Chille Tid
I'm just surprised Jasper [spoilers]died [/spoilers]
>>82740253
I don't remember much from chille tid, but I don't know if he could instantly control a fucking melon and it's colony.
>>82740019
I think your autism is off the charts
Fucking chill you spaz
>>82740019
Gem Drill was fucking worse. I expected them to destroy the Cluster but noooo, Steven was somehow able to talk to it and they bubbled themselves. Fucking hell. This show is getting worse with each episode
>>82740019
>>82740898
>I HATE THAT THE SHOW IS DOUBLING DOWN ON THE VALUES THAT IT HAS SPENT ITS RUNTIME ESTABLISHING
I liked both episodes.
>>82740019
That fight was great tho
>>82741013
More like I hate anticlimaxes.
>>82740019
Better than being stuck in a hiatus.
>>82740898
Imagine if you were in this giant collective consciousness of dead ghosts, some of them your friends, some your enemies. All you know is constant pain and an empty feeling that is insatiable. You hate existence and wish for this pain to end. With what little processing power you have left one primal urge screams out inside you and all the others around you. BECOME COMPLETE AGAIN, LIVE, FORM, ETC. It's this horrid drive that overtakes your entire being, fueled by the livid instincts of the millions of waning flames of humanity that make up your being. Then some boy shows up. He is able to share your pain. He genuinely cares for your well being. For everyone's. He may not be able to do much, but he gives you hope that there's another answer. In his panic he bubbles some of you, thus reminding you that bubbled gems are subdued. They don't have to endure this aching feeling of growth. So with your last efforts before all hell breaks loose, everyone and everything that makes up the Cluster begins bubbling each other. You're free now. The urges are gone. You've no need to form anymore since you finally feel at ease with yourself. This is just some of what that episode was trying to convey, and I feel it did an amazing job at it. I love this show so damn much.
>>82740019
Steven has been shown to have dream telepathy before in Chille Tid. Plus the Steven Melons are his creation. It's not a far fetched guess to say that Rose could control the plants she grew, since she did use them as servants/warriors, so why can't Steven? I'd if you were upset over Steven mind controlling Lars or something, but nah. He was just controlling something he made himself, something that's arguably a part of him even.
>>82740019
So now the cluster is solved for now whats the main plot gonna be until some asshole pops the bubble?
>>82741665
Well jasper isn't' dead and if you think she is you're a moron. Gems can't drown. Also Yellow Diamond.
But no the short term plot is going to be Lapis being a bitch.
>>82741379
So you expected a ending where they just destroy and then Steven and Peridot proced to high five jump each other and then the camera freezes?
>>82741713
But Yellow Diamond is busy with HW shits, earth going boom boom was just another side project..
my only real issue with plot development is how ridiculously rushed it feels. They just wrapped up half a season's worth of rising action with a 5 minute conclusion, it's like it didn't even happen.
>>82741326
Too bad it was spoiled months ago.
>>82741535
Stop trying to overly explain basic shit like it's your LiveJournal. Making things sound edgier than they are doesn't mean the episode wasn't shit.
>>82741908
I feel like the cluster arc would have had perfect pacing if we watched it week by week AND if during all the filler/barn episodes there would be some earthquakes and tremors. Just small things to remind us that its there. I think the reason it feels so rushed is because it went from barn happy stuff to BAM WE'RE ALL DEAD SHIT GO GO GO GO in one episode. There's no sense of urgency in the arc until the end.
>>82741908
Welcome to the problem of 10 minute shows.
See also: Adventure time.
Guys the cluster is still there. All Steven did was put a cork in the Cluster for now. It'll come back.
>>82742055
AT isnt meant to have a coherent plot its an episodic series.
>>82742101
What is season 6 then?
>>82741379
Damn, this first episode of the season was so anticlimactic!
>>82742011
Bothered the hell outta me cause Steven's attitude throughout the series was always "I WANT TO COME TO" to this sudden episode shift of "OH NO IM SCARED. THIS IS A BAD IDEA. OH NO!"
>>82742055
Well I mean, it's not like peridot went from 100% villian to dtf in an episode, or any plot arcs for that matter, but now the biggest one to date gets settled in HALF an episode. Not to mention the whole malachite thing gets settled in 2 minutes before that.
I will admit the trope of "Things are incompetent or peace-loving becoming a supreme fighting force capable of taking down something that should by all rational thinking destroy them without a moment's notice" is a bit of a dump, but I enjoyed the episode.
Kinda don't like how the entire World Ending MegaPlot event was resolved with "lets just be friends" though... Sort of a let down.
>>82740019
>Rose had plant manipulation
>Even to the point of possibly making a lion out of ragweed
>Steven can do it too
>This is somehow unaceptable
>>82740019
Weve seen steven dwelve into astral projection before. We have also learned that rose had the power to control plants. You dont need an episode dedicated to explaining his ability to take control of a watermelon.
Malachite is not immortal. The watermelons acted as a distrsctor while alexandrite finished her off.
I lie how you could have posted this on sug but then you new wouldnt be able to be an attention whore.
>>82742140
They were putting to much pressure on him. God im starting to think co is legitimatly autsitc if they cant comprhend basic emotions.
>>82742154
The cluster wasn't the world ending plot, Yellow Diamond is. This is all to set up Yellow Diamond.
Malachite's done though and nicely so.
>>82740019
>I'm retarded: the post
>>82742154
Dude, he talked about collective consciousness into a kind of suicide.
He is basically mercy killing a planet-buster weapon here.
What was he supposed to do?
Fight this megaton piece of rock that floods his mind with pain?
In any case, he only suspended the apocalypse for now.
>>82740019
Do people like you even watch the fucking show? Christ.
>>82742196
>Creation of sentient life on this scale is unacceptable!
>my mom did it
>Yeah, but we'd cut our hands off and eat them if Rose asked us to. We aint there yet with you
>>82742122
An abortion since they didn't have Sugar to keep their fucking shit straight.
>>82741535
>I feel it did an amazing job at it.
meh.
I think my biggest beef with this resolution wasthe lack of singing. Every major conflict in the series was resolved with a musical number except for this one. Where's my Stronger Than You? Where's my Peace and Love on the Planet Earth? Where's my Strong in the Real Way??
>>82740019
OP is autistic but it is kind of dumb how the quickly it was handled.
He becomes a watermelon Steven on accident just in time?
>>82742491
>implying it's actually resolved
>>82742491
They're obviously saving all the singing and crying for Lapis! R-right?
>>82740019
While I dont agree with you about the episode, it is getting pretty annoying that they arent explaining it AT ALL.
If your gonna imply that steven has some latent psionic abilities, you should at least hint at the source. I may have to rewatch a few of the human episodes, but Im pretty damn sure no human in the show has ever done anything awesome or "had this feeling" that became important.
I know the crew loves to beat around the bush, but holy shit these powers are completely baseless.
>>82740019
also all those melons died,they need to ask if they are disposable or as good as people.the fact they are like some rich guys pet savage tribe is iffy enough but they simultaneously want us to feel bad for baby melons while being all meh about dead warrior melons
>>82741013
>THE VALUES
it called being delusional.There are some values that don't hold up when confronted with the real world.people mock shonen shits for constantly trying to friend it out so don't expect them to go easy on steven. everyone hates this YA shit where protagonist bits off more then they can chew but wins just because.
>>82741908
>>82742011
Honestly this is Cartoon Networks fault more than anything. They literally split off the two episodes that wrapped up a season long arc and called it the beginning of Season 3. I liked the episodes but it was jarring expecting a funny digression into Watermelon world to open the season and then having the climax to the last arc almost out of nowhere. Fuck Cartoon Network.
>>82741908
this
>>82742011
nah even than they build up the cluster for more than 5 episodes
>>82742354
Eh, it just seemed like a bit of a bummer for the build up. Though I'm calling right now that the penultimate showdown with Yellow Diamond is going to go down in one of two ways...
> 1: Yellow Diamond falls down the hole Steven and Peridot just drilled and is sucked into the cluster with all its little grabby hands
> 2: The Cluster somehow forms into a single gem consciousness and reforms into a being roughly the size of a regular gem SOMEHOW DON'T ASK QUESTIONS and then punches Yellow Diamond or something
You just don't throw away a plot hook like that.
Also, I have to say, the sentence "talked a collective consciousness into a kind of suicide" is pretty metal when you put it that way.
>>82742140
more annoying since it was just a device to keep gems away from the cluster
>>82742874
option B.
Yellow diamond brings an army, The Cluster is reformed into individuals and fusions to fight that army.They start fighting but steven will go all "oh the horror" and stop them
>>82742729
This. Steven felt bad that they killed a baby on accident when they were savages and then he sent them all into a battle a lot would die in when they had started families.
>>82741535
Did I miss an episode? When did that happen?
>>82740019
But at least we have a higher possibly of more Steveonnie?
>>82742874
>>82742989
I'd like option B, but only if Steven doesn't try to stop them and if the Cluster reforms into an army of singular gems
>>82742997
Pfft, if you look closely at their Watermelon Civilization you'll see that it's founded on really iffy values. They have these baby melon statues, that was the melon that sacrificed itself to stop all the fighting back in season 1. Plus they had this ritual where they were sacrificing themselves to Malachite a la baby melon, even in the same pose as him. This civilization was founded on 'watermelon' sacrifice, it's what Steven taught them. So I'm sure they were all chill with going off to fight and die.
>>82743078
Latter half of Gem Drill, the newest one.
WTF is watermelon steven supposed to even be able to do? Burst if you punch him? Turning into a watermelon in a fight sounds like a MASSIVE liability: you're more fragile, and even physically weaker than the little butterball already is. They should just scrap that shit and have him work on his quartz shield and maybe let him form quartz weapons. I haven't watched a LOT of this show, mind you, because it just feels aimless, and now it just sounds stupid.
>>82743078
The second episode that aired last night. You know, when Steven bubbles the cluster, the thing everyone is talking about in this thread.
>>82740324
Why wouldn't he, he created them.
>>82742154
>I will admit the trope of "Things are incompetent or peace-loving becoming a supreme fighting force capable of taking down something that should by all rational thinking destroy them without a moment's notice" is a bit of a dump
What you mean the watermelons?
Because it's heavily suggested they're meant to be soldiers by design.
>>82742804
>everyone hates this YA shit where protagonist bits off more then they can chew but wins just because.
I doesn't look like they do.
>>82743198
>WTF is watermelon steven supposed to even be able to do?
You didn't watch the episode, right?
>>82743198
travel long distances for intel or command watermelon armies from afar.
This is still my favorite reference a show has ever done.
>>82743329
Rose using her plants and dream projection powers in tandem for gathering intel sounds super cool and I totally bet it was used in the rebellion.
>>82743098
>Steven doesn't try to stop them
that would be against his personality, at best he will be stuck elsewhere and only come in the end to make a speech about how they are all the same and have suffered enough.
>Cluster reforms into an army of singular gems
by fusion I mean garnet type fusion. like small shards will turn into individuals because they talked and found out they were originally one but still not having enough for a full body they fuse with someone in the same situation.it would also be like an "in your face" heresy for them to match homeworld.
>>82743183
>>82743206
Ah, it seems my DVR only recorded the first episode, the watermelon one. Shoot.
>>82743198
>urning into a watermelon in a fight sounds like a MASSIVE liability
he did not turn into a watermelon, he possessed the watermelon. have you never played dungeon keeper or mass effect 2?
I just realised that Homeworld's plan is pretty much a rehash of the Thanagarian plot in the JL cartoon.
>>82743447
kat has low quality version of it.
>>82743493
>Mass Effect 2
>ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL
Best game in the series bar none. Best story, best gameplay, best crew, it's just great.
>>82743313
Right.
>>82743493
Nope.
>>82743447
Well shit, sorry for spoiling it then, man.
>>82743598
>Nope.
well you being inattentive and not as worldly as us has nothing to do with shows quality/logic
>>82742874
>implying jasper falling into the mantle of earth isnt the hook
Shes gonna break it out, mark my words.
>>82743198
>quartz shield and maybe let him form quartz weapons
he has a sword and a body guard.+he did work on his shield skills and they work a lot more now.
>>82743526
>>82743666
No biggie, just saw it online. That was kinda cool.
...Bump
>More Peridot....
>"I love you peridot"
I'm conflicted, does that mean that peridot and steven are confirmed for rose and greg 2.0?
>>82745302
No you idiot.
>>82745302
Steven loves everyone, you retard.
>>82745302
>>82745357
>>82745398
Don't listen to the fags, anon. Stevendot is endgame.
How old do you figure Peridot isin gem years
>>82740019
I gotta say, that random Melon power rubbed me the wrong way as well, I mean, the show has always been successful at establishing powers for later use, but that one right there effectively came out of nowhere just to have a plot device where Steven could be at both places, plus the whole idea of the melon army actually managing to take down Machalite was, while cute, extremely ridiculous and very cop-out-is.
Overall that's what the episode felt, a cop-out to be done with the Machalite arc (which frankly felt like it went nowhere, give the anti-climatic ending).
Now, Gem drill, that's a whole different can of worms, the resolution was very Steven-like, and I loved every second of Peridot, but man if it also felt so anti-climatic, after all this time of building up the cluster and bam, it got bubbled and that was it.
Jesus these two episodes felt like watching Adventure Time, and that's never a good sight...
>>82745302
>tell a friend you love them the moment before you genuinely believe you're both about to die
>OMG does this mean they're going to fuck?!
>>82745468
Eh, the Steven watermelon stuff didn't bother me, we already knew both Steven and Rose could control vegetation, and Steven had shown some sort of psychic/whatever ability when dreaming in Chille Tid. The watermelons didn't even really do a whole lot to Malachite, they just caused enough of a distraction for Alexandrite to do get an upper hand.
As for the Cluster, I don't think that was ever going to get resolved in a manner that would seem satisfying to a lot of people. You couldn't outright fight it since if it even formed it would mean the entire Earth was destroyed, so it was always going to be a giant clump of gem shards. Aside from the kind of peaceful resolution that we got, the only other option would have been to just drill into it until it died, which wouldn't have really been satisfying at all.
ay where the mega link at
Where's Madrista when you need him
>>82745925
Just search Madridista in desu.
>>82745450
Peridot and Lapis will be there for when Connie dies of old age and Steven goes back to being whatever age he chooses.
It is like how Bat will always be endgame regardless of dating Crab.
>>82743359
Who/Why the fuck would make a statue of a naked man beating up babies?
>>82743092
>No dick.
Fucking dropped.
>>82745302
lolno.
Look, I like dorito as much as the next guy, but there's no pulling out of steven x connie. and if they did it'd have to be over the course of several seasons not to be asspull as fuck.
>>82746754
As much as I want to see a Peridot and Steven fusion, Stevonnie is too hot to give up.
>>82746754
Or people can just ship it, whatever. It is not like any relationship with Steven is ever going to go far in the format of the show.
Like with AT.
>>82740019
>IMMORTAL GEM
You do realize that Gems aren't immortal right? They can die just like any other being, hell, that's the main reason the Cluster and Gem Fusions exist in the first place.
>>82741665
Yellow Diamond will be the main plot focus now, she's already sending a fleet of Gems to come and get Peridot and Jasper and to destroy the Crystal Gems, and considering the fact Peridot deliberately called her a clod to her face you better believe she's angry as hell right now and would shatter her in a heartbeat upon seeing her.
>>82747199
They don't die of natural causes. They have to be shattered to die. Or fuck a human I guess.
>>82747363
Actually I think Sugar said that Rose dying had been voluntary and not biologically necessary. She wanted to pass her gem powers to a hybrid.
>>82747506
What a fucking stupid selfish cunt.
>>82745490
Bloody yeah, it should!
>>82746311
It's called art.
>>82742679
>>82742196
The whole "lion might be a plant" thing makes no sense, I cant believe people actually think thats a thing.
And that doesnt explain his psychic connection with both lapis and the cluster, or how he 'blink' shut off that tv.
>visit /co/ for the first time in months
>first thread is a Tumblr cartoon thread
>>82740019
thanks to lauren faust to killing the show.
>>82749537
>>82749501
Is this from an ad, or an episode that's been released? If so, wh
>>82750149
-ich one?
Captcha finished completing mid-word and changed focus to the submit button on me.
>>82750180
I don't watch that crap but a quick google search revealed that clip is from the fourth episode.
The only problem I had is that all that build up to the cluster led to what is basically nothing. If Steven discovered a new power or something, it would've been fine. If Peridot did something out of her nature, fused with Steven, discovered her weapon or SOMETHING, it would've been fine. But no, Steven fixed the problem the way he fixed almost every other problem. Let me clarify that I didn't HATE the episode, but I was rather disappointed.
>>82745490
I think we have a few emotionally confused teenagers in these threads.
Liking stevidot is fine, and shitposting about it is still semi-fine, but actually not picking up on the situational queues and the subtext... thats kinda socially dangerous.
>>82750272
Ah, thanks! My bad for assuming Google'd just get me reposts of the gif, apparently.
>>82750180
I like how you picked it up right where you left off
>>82750376
this
>>82742154
You expected something else? It's literally the only way Steven could win this.
Also it's probably setting up him healing the corrupted gems.
>>82742598
Why can't it be a side effect of being a gem-human hybrid? It does seem weird to me that the other gems don't try to understand it, though.
>>82746311
Gustav Vigeland.
He promised to make statues and donate them to the city of Oslo, in return for a new house after his old one was demolished to make room for a library.
If you telephoned Steven's house and just panted heavily into the phone and said 'penis' over and over again, how would the gems react?
>>82740019
lmaaaaoooooo SU is garbo
so is /sug/ banned again?
Great way to cause threads to be spammed
>>82751640
It isn't. There's a thread right know >>82746613
>>82750619
It seems like they're leaning to that answer, but its really unsatisfying to me how this power really isnt based on anything at all. "He is therefore he has" just feels like such an ass pull.
>>82740019
I agree that it was a weak start to the season. Makes me sad considering how much I loved the episodes that aired before the long hiatus. I hope the show didn't peak.
I'm more annoyed at how easily he just willed himself to sleep.
Takes me at least a fucking hour to get to sleep.
>>82750317
> If Steven discovered a new power or something, it would've been fine. If Peridot did something out of her nature, fused with Steven, discovered her weapon or SOMETHING, it would've been fine
pretty much this senpai
At least USE your macguffin for something to push something else forward. I mean the whole gem instrumentality thing was cool, and I can roll with it, but it didnt feel like it really changed anything for anyone.
Same issue with Malachite - the final fight was cool, but that's all we got out of it - a cool fight. No CG character development really addressed (teamwork as Alexandrite?), nothing said about what Malachite meant for the story, but I guess we'll get that from Lapis soon?
Overall feels like two plot threads just kinda dropped. But I guess it was about the journey not the destination in a way (peridot's progression). Also yeah the hiatus wasn't helpful.
Easy explanation to all questions.
1: Rose quartz and the power of her gem stems from her need to protect and empathize with others. Steven's emotional growth only logically increases his powers.
2: The watermelons when they were at their weakest were able to completely dominate all of the crystal gems. It only makes sense that they could distract Malachite temporarily.
3: Rose quartz bubbles are fundamentally different, pearl even thought her bubbles could treat mutant gems. Steven's shouldn't be any different.
4: Steven has always been exceptional at communicating telepathically or by unconventional means. Wouldn't take much for him to control a melon of himself.
