Okay, which one of you did it?
>Plagiarism general.
>>82722183
Did what? Ate China?
>>82722183
>>82722296
Is this a reference to an unreleased xxx marvel parody I don't know about?
>>82722183
The Tau vs Venom?
>>82722311
For those of you who aren't fa/tg/uys.
>>82722183
Somebody please find this artist's home and smash all of his computers. The guy's clearly a good painter, but he shits everything up with awful CG.
>>82722183
Fucker didn't even change color scheme.
>>82722183
/tg/ here.
We're having a ball waiting to see if GW and the Mouse go at it.
>>82722183
>>82722381
Hahaha, what the fuck?
>>82722183
This is super fucking blatant.
I don't understand why he undersized parts of them like the drones and the doors though, that doesn't make sense to me. Its not like it disguises what they are ripped off from in any notable way.
But it begs the question... can Symbiotes be brought to understand and serve The Greater Good?
They must surely understand the necessity of cooperating with other organisms...
>>82722611
New symbiotes are shit
How would you deal with Griffith, Annihilus, and friends all riding double ED-209's?
>>82722183
Who's the artist?
>>82722183
its so fucking blatent
>>82722471
it will be weird to actually be supporting games workshop in a copyright matter for once
>>82722381
>>82722183
I think there should be a complete moratorium on swiping tech designs. For fucks' sake, concept artists are hardworking people, and if you can't design your own tech, you shouldn't be making scifi comics in the first place.
Didn't something like this happen in Midnighter too? Like, in 12 Midnighter has "sonic pistol" that is totally just a Mass Effect gun.
>>82722722
It's not always bad... it was kind of fun to see Deadpool in the future in that one X-Force comic using dirtied-up but recognizable Halo guns.
>>82722365
Why would this gun need a magazine? It's clearly muzzle-loaded.
>>82722741
Uh... propellant canisters maybe?
>>82722611
Symbiotes would become new standard for Tau troops. All troops would be merged with symbiotes, allowing them to go toe-to-toe with spess marinns. Tau win.
I remember that Mickey Mouse comic where a villain had this army of bank robbing robots which were blatantly based on Kirby.
>>82722748
Isn't the triangle thing at the top propellant? I mean, that's how CO2 cartridges are mounted on some pneumatic weapons.
>>82722778
Look, I don't know what the fuck the gun is even supposed to do, so your guess is as good as mine.
>>82722762
Nah, Tau are still a shit babby empire that can't match any of the main races since they are so insignificant in scale.
Plus flamers everywhere, and symbiote tau are still only passable in melee
>>82722630
That's not Griffith and Annihilus, that's Deadlock and Blackblood of the ABC Warriors!
>>82722381
Tbh I could tell they weren't original without looking, they're too out of place. They look like they're not even traced from Poser, they look like it's an actual render. Like, lines on the hull have this characteristic blurry quality that I usually see on painterly textures in CG art.
>>82722790
My point is that if artist removed the magazine, people probably wouldn't even notice it's a bolter pistol (since mag is pretty iconic part of it).
I'm just saying, if you trace and copy, at least do it smart.
>>82722812
Those are some great names.
>>82722762
It would take the tau millenia to grow in size and strength enough to topple the Imperium, even assuming everybody isn't Tyranid food by then. Or orc food. Or Chaos food. Look, it's a hungry galaxy, is all I'm saying.
>>82722611
Don't you know? Symbiotes (actually, their name is Klyntar) are galactic benevolent peacekeeping organization.
Aren't symbiotes now just super duper benevolent green lantern knockoffs (which Marvel already had in the Nova Corps?) and it was also retconned that instead of Venom being the one symbiote who actually wanted to bond with its host instead of draining them dry and moving onto the next he's now the one bad apple that gave symbiotes a bad name.
>>82722864
If that's from current, shitty Guardians of the Galaxy, I'm gonna piss in your next cup of coffee. See if I don't. You'll forget all about this, but the next cup of coffee you drink, bam, "This tastes funny, wait, oh my god, holy shit, no!"
>>82722854
Other line-ups have included Mad Ronn, Hitaki, Morrigun, Zippo, Terr-1, Ro-Jaws and MEK QUAKE
>>82722868
something like that, yeah
The symbiotes just latch onto guys and then they get messages from THE COSMOS to go do good deeds.
And Venom is giving them a really, really bad name right now
I miss old tacticool venom. I miss when symbiotes where just space monster parasites. I miss when people didn't shout Klyntar every page.
>>82722790
Quick look at marvel wiki, Liz has only one supervillain steprother - Mark Raxton, Molten Man. His most recent appearance as a villain was in 581. Quick check online, and one, this issue was drawn by one Mike McKone, and two, apparently it's a futuristic needlegun to give deliver antidote to Molten Man. That ballista missile is apparently adamantium tipped tranq. Personally I don't see how anyone could survive getting shot with this shit. And there is absolutely zero ackonwledgement of how it works, other than "experimental delivery system", so we will never learn - to be honest probably only purpose of the top container is to have somewhere to write "Oscorp" on.
Also, it is something that Harry just lugged in his car for apparently weeks or months for this exact occasion, and noone in his family questioned that. Did it fit in the glovebox?
And three, climax of the issue includes Spidey saying "chillax" to Molten Man. At least it's acknowledged in-universe as cringy.
>I love how in this age I can find out exact context for a page in less than half an hour.
>>82723015
So basically it's a terribly inappropriate choice of a design to even steal on every level. A bad swipe on top of being a swipe in the first place.
>>82723015
Pic related. Also a goof, that's issue 582 because it's part 2 of a story arc.
Also, this issue had a filler artist for exactly one page, so probably something happened and Mike McKone couldn't keep up with deadlines, so stealing bolter design was most likely a crutch to make things faster.
>>82723086
Actually now that I look at this illustration, I am 100% certain he just stole someone else's model of a bolter and added some shit to it in 3D studio, and called the render "pencils". I mean, fucking look at it. If he hand-traced it, it would looks at least SOMEWHAT organic.
>>82722630
You don't, you're fucked.
>>82722822
I was right. Reposted from /tg/ thread:
>>>/tg/47229522
Clearly a render just pasted onto the page.
>>82723224
>still has the fucking tau logo
>>82722868
the vast majority of symbiotes who venture into space go evil because they have zero tolerance for mental contamination. they accumulate the hate rage and crazy of their hosts, and pass it all on to their offspring.
Venom was a sort of genetic throwback that failed to inherit anything from its ancestors, and since all his relatives had zero time for someone that wasn't as evil as they were, he got locked up.
then Peter finds him, and Venom gets contaminated by Peter's rage and frustration, and particularly the anger Peter felt towards it in that final struggle at the bell tower.
Then it finds Eddie, and gets more anger from him, as well as his victim complex and psychosis. they end up in a feedback loop where Venom is making Eddie crazier and Eddie is making Venom crazier. to the point of craving brains and chocolate.
then they split up, it goes to Angelo, who gets rejected in a matter of hours, and it seeks out Mac Gargan. Mac gets hit with the cumulative psychosis of Peter and Eddie all at once, and then a psychic attack drives Mac completely insane. which makes Venom even worse.
cue more shenanigans and cannibalism, the symbiote gets snatched from Mac, pumped full of enough tranquilizers and suppressants that its too busy tripping balls to think straight. It does manage to influence Flash enough that he goes AWOL.
Since Flash is a recovered alchoholic, that rubs off on the symbiote and it manages to get over its brains addiction. now that its no longer doped up 24/7 they manage to forge a true partnership.
Later, in some corner of space, they run into a symbiote colony that has remained pure. its able to flush out all of the bad stuff the symbiote inherited from its hosts over the years returning it to the stable state it was in when Peter first found it. The colony sends Venom on missions to help bring peace to that corner of the galaxy.
>>82723266
Then in a mission, the symbiote spends time bonded to an alien warlord. This causes it to 'fall off the wagon' so to speak, and start craving bad vibes. The colony senses this, and sends out an agent. It turns out the colony has only remained pure for so long thanks to a strict 'one second chance' policy. Every symbiote that blows that second chance gets executed, and they offer to provide Flash with a new, better symbiote. Flash says fuck that, this is my partner, but the symbiote is so pissed off it steals Flash's ship and escapes.
this is the current continuity of the Venom symbiote. the bottom line being that the majority of symbiotes are still evil, and the Klyntar colony ones are actually dicks
>>82723224
Why is that tank completely hollow?
>>82723266
Please never write anything again.
>>82723333
... I'm pretty sure that is recap of what actually happened, anon.
>>82723327
That's the fun with CG models! Basically, all models are actually empty on the inside. Without textures, they wouldn't be just transparent - they would be see-through. If there is a missing texture in a model, insides are completely invisible through it, and you can see through the "hole" even if it is technically "covered" from the other side. Basically, all models are invisible from the inside.
So almost certainly, the hatch was probably a separate model (since /tg/ says those are stolen Dawn of War game assets, probably because hatch is either animated or something) and it wasn't included in that Poser model pack that the artist used.
>>82723327
Because when the "artist" scaled up the tank model he didn't scale up the door or guns too so you're seeing inside the model.
>>82723415
OHH! You're correct, that tiny thing with the Tau logo is the hatch in the wrong size! Duh!
So yeah, what I said >>82723401 and what this guy said >>82723415
>>82723401
Correct. The hatch comes off when the unit is destroyed IIRC, but you don't get much besides.
>yfw when Tau got completely purged by symbiotes
>yfw when even Marvel view them as incompetent tiny '''''''empire'''''''
>>82723796
I wonder what would happen if the symbiote genetic structure got absorbed into the Tyranid Hive Mind? Tyranids already exhibit ludicrous amounts of symbiotic relationships, and they can do some of the spontaneous mutation thing Marvel ones can do.
>>82722864
I refuse to acknowledge this shitty retcon
>>82722959
>MEK QUAKE
BIG JOBS!
>>82724008
better camoflague and ability to infect others. not much else
>>82722381
>>82722311
>>82722183
That's more easter egg/reference than plagiarism
>>82724679
Hmm, maybe but I really think this goes beyond the usual fair usage situations of homage/references.
If GW really wanted to (and they are famously litigious) they could make a real stink
>>82722183
But Anon, you can't plagiarize from persons who aren't US companies.
>>82724679
When does it become plagiarism?
>>82724679
I could give that reason for the bolt pistol in the Spidey comic, but that's because they added all kinds of gizmos and useless bits to it.
The Venom one is a one for one copy/paste.
>>82724679
this goes far beyond an homage anon
>>82724679
You're a retarded if you think the OP comic is an 'easter egg', its literally a model taken and used instead of actual art, but the hack couldn't even do that right so bits like the doors are undersized the armoured units appear hollow.
This is like Land tracing from porn but even dumber.
>>82725219
This would be like Land literally just using photos of porn instead of tracing over it.
>>82722183
>Plagiarism general.
>>82724036
god I love 2000AD
>>82725649
That looks more like an in-joke than downright plagarism, the angle is different and it has a ton of other shit added on to it.
>>82726033
He just shoved the fucker on top because drawing all the mechanical shit on the middle would have been hard. The guns or whatever they are are even clipping though the helicopter.
>>82726033
>the angle is different
Deodato is one of those "artists" who use poser and other 3d modeling software and then just paste the renders into the comic. Given that you can see the clipping (look at the gun barrels) I highly HIGHLY doubt that he actually modeled the speeder himself: looks like he just imported it from somewhere like Turbosquid:
http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Index.cfm?keyword=lego+snow+speeder
>>82722183
Is this a video game or did someone actually make an official comic with 3D models?
>>82724805
if it's used consistentyl is plagiarism, if it was used only in this shot but then shows other veichles that are the actual army vehicles, then is an easter egg
>>82726542
I can't believe you're this stupid.
>>82722183
The background reminds me of the 3D Ironman comic.
>>82726277
It's from the current Venom run
>>82722183
Is that Venom 3d too?
>>82726864
He sure looks like it.
>Google image Mike Deodato
I'm getting a gay porn feel...
>>82726542
Plagiarism is when you use the work of another human as your own. To avoid plagiarism in a paper for instance you should clearly mark a quote from another human in your work and give the original source for it.
so yes that is plagiarism
>>82722183
>>82728204
That's an Eldar Falcon Grav Tank without the top turret and an engine on the troop hold, for anyone playing along at home. It's also in Dawn of War, just like the Tau tank.
>>82722812
Fucking good catch Anon!
