Why is ASBAR and TDKSA so good? They're probably the best comics of the 21st Century, nothing stands up to them. Frank hasn't lost his touch.
>>82721283
ASBAR was fun because it didn't take itself seriously. It was just wild and crazy lunacy; I saw it as DC's answer to Nextwave, but people seemed unwilling or unable to approach it that way. I howled with laughter reading ASBAR over and over again and I couldn't believe how obtuse people were that they were unwilling or unable to get the joke.
What are you retarded?
>>82721757
>>82722473
>he thinks ASBAR and TDKSA are bad
They were easily on par with BvS
>>82722686
>he thinks people can't see through his bait
The wording was too obvious.
>>82722686
People just don't get TDKSA.
If you get it at face value isn't that great but if you understand all the jabs, double meaning and meta commentary about comicbooks that are in there is quite an amazing work.
>>82722700
So, amazing?
>>82721283
HE 'S GOING ALL OUT
Because Batman is boring as hell and seeing someone get it so, so wrong is more interesting than seeing someone get it right.
>>82723144
But Frank's Batman is the DEFINITIVE Batman, he always gets him right.
>>82721984
>I saw it as DC's answer to Nextwave, but people seemed unwilling or unable to approach it that way
most don't see that way because people need to be told what is what so Ellis made it super obvious that is was comedy while Miller didn't give a flying fuck about what his reader thought and did what he felt like and that my friend is balls… bravo Miller
>>82721283
Yeah, they're probably the only good superhero comics out there.
>>82724976
>Morrison
>Implying he's written that matches the high caliber of Frank's
Please.
I never want to get off Miller's wild batride.
>>82721283
Lord have mercy
>>82721984
Its a great comedy
>>82723452
>Believing it was SUPPOSED to be a comedy
The only people I can see believing this are people who havent actually read it.
TDKSA has some great moments.
>Death of [spoilers]Captain Marvel[/spoilers]
>When Batman convinces Superman to fight back.
>Batman putting himself in harm's way to make sure his endgame plan goes through.
>Everything with The Atom
>Old Green Arrow
ASBAR, likewise has some truly great moments.
>Batman thinking to himself that "recruiting" Dick at age 12 is nuts and that he'd rather wait until Dick was 15-17 years of age, but his parents get murdered so he feels he had to do it now.
>The "haha I love being the Goddamn Batman" scene, because this is a Bruce that revels in being Batman instead of always brooding.
>After Dick wants to kill Green Lantern and Bruce, realizing how bad he's fucking Dick up, takes him to the grave of his parents to finally let Dick grieve the loss of his parents.
>>82725655
Next time when using spoilers, pal, usectrl+s
>>82725629
How would they get that idea unless someone else read it that way and told them that was the case. Memes have to come from somewhere
>>82725655
The ending of asbar is legit great
>>82725683
oops, my bad.
>>82721283
>better than cerebus.jpg
You made me kek, OP.
>>82725759
Cerebus is shit bro.
>>82725715
I think it's one of the best B&R moments of all time. Not even kidding.
>>82725715
i thought it doesn't end? like lee still has two issues left to draw? i remember one of the final scenes being gordon deciding to sort his shit out
DKSA works great as a Silver Age Justice League story set in the DKR universe.
>>82725924
I think they decided to re-title what's left of it "Dark Knight, Boy Wonder". Both Miller and Lee have confirmed they're working on it, which means we might just have the first issue by 2021 or so. Then Miller will probably die.
>>82726321
Oh, he'll die much sooner than that.
>>82725924
I think he was talking about the end of #9
The normal trade ends with that since #10 is kinda the odd issue out
>>82725655
Don't forget Bruce being a manchild and Dick blowing him him the fuck out and generally being freaked out by him in his thoughts
As a Dick fan I just can't like TSKSA.
>>82726707
Then you're a pleb, simply put. But that's okay though.
>>82726707
I can like it if I ignore that one part
At least Miller made him more sympathetic in ASBAR and made the whole thing Bruce's fault
>>82726707
Just one thing I reacted to with TDKR and TDSKA. In TDKR, Bruce says he hadn't spoken to Dick in 7 years, it was 10 years since his retirement at that point. That meant Dick and Bruce stayed in contact AFTER Bruce retired as Batman.
But by TDKSA, which is 2 years after TDKR, well, you know what has happened to Dick.
>>82725391
go back to CBR you tone-deaf simpleton
>>82726707
>not wanting 5 pages of Bruce calling Dick a faggot
Get a load of this guy.
TDSKA was good but ASBAR was just too much "I was just pretending to be retarded" for me to handle; however it does explain why Dick is a psycho later on TDKSA,
>>82721283
>MOMMY, DADDY THANK YOU FOR THESE HULK HANDS THIS CHRISTMAS
>>82721283
>I'm done talking.
>Get out of my cave.
This made me laugh than it should have.
>>82725857
And TDKSA and ASBAR is better?
>>82728936
They're funnier
>>82721283
No they aren't, but you already know it, right?
>>82721757
>>82725391
>>82730292
If it's bait, then why do so many people agree?
>>82730369
Because this board is full of trolls, contrarians, and Millerfags
>>82730369
Because it's not bait
People mostly hate ASBAR because NOT MUH BATMAN
Like there's a reason why Batman all that stuff, elseworld reason aside, and he did feel guilty and later change his mind, but people ignore it because "Batman wouldn't do it in the first place!!"
>>82730670
>trolls, contrarians, and Millerfags
That's an odd way of spelling "realists".
>>82730756
I ignore it because its not a good story in the first place
>>82731286
But it is though, you're just being a pleb.
>>82723079
Yes.
DKSA is bonkers and grotesque and wonderful
>>82734247
If the coloring weren't shit I'd probably enjoy the art more since it fits the story.
>>82734247
This is the most accurate description of TDSKA I've seen.
