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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/
>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed
>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/
>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#
>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.
>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0lck7oo4A
>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/
>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf
>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/
>tfw 0 new views on your comic
isn't this #270?
how we gonna pay?
LAST YEAR'S RENT
>>82620977
:O
>>82621372
What did I miss?
>>82621165
Hey scribblehatch
>>82622092
solid zing my man.
>>82621165
>tfw checked stats
>67 unique visitors
:3c
>>82622277
whats ur comic boi
>implying any of the shit you guys churn out is even worth 10c
Here's a character.
>>82622599
I haven't even started, but I have family members in actual successful media so I'm guaranteed success. I also have Jewish family members.
>>82622685
>jew false flagging
/pol/tards fuck off
I have a pencil, some paper, and my phone. If you want I can draw fanart of your character(s) and you can judge my art :3
>>82622723
>doesn't know about my movie directing Jew uncle
>>82622653
What's his story?
He looks like the kind of nigga that'd be into smooth jazz.
>>82622803
His name is Lozer. And yeah -- smooth jazz sums him up fairly well. He grew up in a united space colony -- unfortunately due to his genetic differences, he's somewhat less capable and this caused him to grow with an inferiority complex. Lozer found a living essentially being a fall guy for a few criminal "buddies" until they sold him out for their own safety and he ended up in prison. Years later, he gets out and seeks to make an honest living.
So if I just want to draw a comic and have no experience coding for a site, where should I go?
Does this sound normal/passable?
"I cut ties with everyone and applied for a job on a neighboring city.
((followed by))
Our professors often said only 10% of what we learn in college will be applied to our fields in real life. I always thought they were wackos..."
Very slowly beginning work on a new series.
>>82623083
Ask me what you want and maybe I'll do it if I'm bored enough.
>>82622653
He looks like Mike Wazowski and Geodude had a child.
I like him though. He's adorable.
>>82623181
you have interesting whatever those lines in the background are.
>>82623246
It's a grid, son. To help lay out where panels can a should go.
>>82623246
Can't tell if you mean the guidelines or in the comic itself.
>>82623301
oh shit we have those? I just lay panels wherever spacing and size looks right.
>>82623368
I don't strictly adhere to them all the time, but they help give a general idea.
>>82623178
traditional spelling is 'whackos' but otherwise yeah i see nothing odd about this
>>82623083
Find a friend or buy a friend-I mean buy a site coder.
>>82623565
Sexy man service when?
Another week's page done, and I actually have sort of a buffer for once which is wild. I also tried some fancy ink effects so next time I'll have an excuse to be sloppy.
http://knockdownbitches.tumblr.com/post/144102292852/053-in-which-river-goes-full-spetsnaz-almost
>>82623620
>>82623880
based/10
but really tell me honestly,
how IS your webcomic?
>>82623212
Yeah, It was kind of making me reluctant to design him that way, but he's got a somewhat different look to him.
This is his co-worker
>>82624047
Lame
>>82623181
ooooh, goopy
>>82624047
Needs work
>>82624224
>>82624257
no, you must have confidence!! unless you were talking about the strip i posted, in which case, all right, fair point
CUT MY COMIC INTO PIECES
NO ONE BUT ME WILL CARE
THAT'S OUR ONE THING
IN COMMON
WORTH LESS THAN A BOWL OF INSTANT RAMEN
>>82623565
whoa cool. why is kiki wearing those? is this a future sport?
>>82624287
No, I mean I'm only like 25 pages in and I need to edit/add panels, and do some work to make the plot not a jumbled mess so early in.
>>82624287
Nah just, I have a hard time with perspective and backgrounds is all.
>>82624047
never progressing. I've deleted and rewritten and deleted and rewritten a lot of shit for so many times now, but its still not satisfying for me. I look at some of the works of other people on the site that I'm targeting and it's not like my story is worse than many of them, but I don't feel satisfied with my stories even though I enjoy the process. I started making comics because I make pretty pictures, and when I made a story, it felt more satisfying than just making portrait/pose fanarts because it actually has a message or well.. story, but I can't write for shiiiiiit.
>>82624434
post some pretty pictures you made, I'm sure there are a lot of thirsty writers in here willing to pitch ideas at you
>>82624311
>CUT MY DICK INTO PIECES
>FUCK MAKING PROGRESS NOW
>PROCRASTI-BATION
>NO FINISHING
>GONNA KEEP EDGE-ING TIL I BLEED FROM CHAFFING
>
>I CAN'T OPEN ANY MORE TABS
>>82624491
its not satisfying to have other people do it m8
>>82624434
Are you me?
I can draw, I draw decently enough of midwestern stuff and storms and stuff like that but I cannot for the life of me write.
I tried writing comics beforw, I tried animating, I tried writing stories and they all become like a mixed up bundle of wire.
>>82624494
>PROCRASTI-BATION
this is a revolutionary new term that will redefine how I view my habits
>>82624494
>have some time before bed
>work on comic
>OR
>browse porn/masturbate
The first one never fucking wins.
>>82624648
>tfw my fetish is porn noises without the visuals
Best of both worlds :^)
>>82624322
Meat tenderizers. I was drawing a giant lobster as well.
somebody please tell me how to do a good comic
>>82625094
Practice
>>82625110
hes asking about comics, not drawing.
>>82625094
Make characters people will invest in and have interesting things happen to/between them. Resolve it satisfyingly.
If the writing is good then bad art is forgivable and it'll still be a good comic, but the opposite isn't true. I can't emphasize that enough.
From last thread, the full body list monsters for my upcoming project.
>>82625094
>>82625110
Honestly with how powerful digital art is nowadays, you could get away with tracing as long as you're careful about it. A lot of times the story you want to tell is limited by your art, but really don't be afraid to "heavily use references". I mean, USE the shit out of those references. Put another layer on top of them and trace it, then flip it horizontally and make some edits.
As long as you're not a retard like Nick Simmons you'll be OK.
HELP
>>82625172
you have shit tastes in who's the worst character in homosuck
>>82625285
I hope you're not writing a comic in here with shit taste like that. Remember, writing skill actually matters.
>>82625261
Okay
I always wanted to do a story about a family of Superheros. But the MC has no powers and has to live with while struggling with his senior year in high school and bring a damsel all the time.
So how unoriginal am I?
>>82625184
This. Just trace and edit a little, anon. Why improve your skill in drawing when you can do it the easy way?
>>82625353
Reminds me of this Disney Channel Original Movie I saw when I was a kid. "Up, Up, and Away", I think.
Also, anything with superheroes needs a dramatically original take on it or it's like white noise. I think your idea could end up pretty good, but the premise might get a little stale. What else is there to the plot?
>>82625353
it's great. do it, and post it here.
>>82624047
well not as good as yours, but it updates a lot more often
>>82625458
no real point nowadays. save time, don't be a chump. no one wants to read ugly shit
>>82620944
hey guys, sorry i did't respond to any body or post anything after my page was finished, when i say cya i really am gone until i have a new page to post, my bad, maybe i will stick around this time when im done since im bored with all the pc and ps4 games ive been playing, even blade and sole
*HERE IS A SUPER EARLY SNEAK PREVIEW OF PAGE 40 OF FATES WHICH IS WHAT MI WORKING ON RIGHT NOW!*
>>82621372
what was there?
>>82622599
mine is worth top retail dollar, but i share it all for free so i can get famous off my art the hard way
*famous, not rich or rich and famous, there is a difference
like jhon cena or chris chan or dobson meme famous, if that makes any since? lol XD
X'D
>>82624311
lol
>>82625167
MILF!!!!!
>>82625583
Who's a chump? I'm serious. Do it~ It's fun tracing. Shaves off unnecessary time and effort!
>>82625463
It's mostly like him just hating Superheroes and villains in general as they pretty much ruin his life even if it isn't related to his family like being stuck in traffic while a giant battle is going on.
Mostly things like that about how his life gets fucked over by the capeshit that hits his world. Plus I'm thinking about using the idea of him considering being a super villain most cases but as a tease most cases.
It seems generic and awful but I'm hoping to find out so things to spice it up. I'm going for more of the comedy drama feel of it, pretty much showing the hardships of living life within the shadows of others. But I'm just testing the waters on how it works.
Should I play it straight or go full parody
I miss Jim Shaw
>>82625656
Eh, that sounds like it might work as an episodic comedy along the lines of Dan Vs., but it really needs a set story if you want to take it beyond gags. "I'm late to work because the villain of the week melted the road and ugh now I have to watch Captain Amazing beat the shit out of him while flying, how ironic that I find this blase and annoying" will work as a joke once before it gets tired.
You can push him as a supervillain but does he actually hate his family or is he just kind of jealous? Is it in his nature to commit evil or is he hopelessly incompetent? Is he proficient with villainous technology or is he just winging it and hoping no one notices he has no power?
>>82624818
ah cool
you should probably say that when you post art. it makes it more fun
>>82624047
First chapter will be up once I get a good scanner.
Anyone have any suggestions for ones that are good yet within a reasonable price range?
Also, old pic. I have all my panels inked, now I just have to ink the backgrounds and scan them.
>>82625943
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=good+cheap+scanner+for+drawings
>>82625353
there's a bit of that in Atomic Laundromat.
>>82626043
theres a bit of an already existing thing in everything
>>82626015
I know I could've done that, I just wanted to get some personal opinions first. Thanks though, I'll be looking into some.
>>82625614
but bones... your already a meme
"dont reply to bones" is the biggest meme this series of threads has ever known
your already a famous meme kid
your living your dreams bones!
>>82626253
what the fuck does that have to do wit my art, i dont want to be a meme, like my art needs to become a type of meme unto its self, ya know?
or maybe not, i dont know, it doesnt matter, nothing really matters, ya kn?
>>82620944
hey do you guys think she spits or swallows?
serious question
>>82620944
what if i suck at drawing, but i want to make a webcomic anyway, By using a photo camera and action figures?
>>82626334
with my art*
,ya know?*
>>82626531
LONDON?
>>82626394
She seems the type to spit, but I want her to swallow
>>82625926
It's more fun for me to know who is curious about what.
does anyone know what happened to willdrawforfood?
where can i find a webcomic senpai who will guide me on this journey?
>>82627092
Starved.
>>82627217
Best post
>>82626080
totes, i didnt mean to call it a ripoff. just maybe checking out how they do it can give you some context to what youre doing
>>82626406
i miss twisted kaiju theater
i always wanted to do a zoids photocomic.
basically if it's good, good writing, and if you have real photography skills, fuckin do it dude.
>>82625614
It still needs blood and other special effects but this i what the page is going to look like and yes the hot orc girl dies in this page, rip hot orc girl 2016
*fun fact, she uses to be a goblin girl, but all my goblin dudes and chicks look exactly like my orc dudes an chicks, so there are no more humanoid goblin characters any more, THERE ALL JUST ORC PEOPLE ON NIBIRU! (green skin, white hair, elf ears). all the goblin creatures of this webcomic live in the woods now and dont speak or act very human like, there more monkey like than man like now...
>>82627338
but this is what the page is going to look like*
>>82627217
lmfao underrated post!
>>82627338
*fun fact, she used* to be a goblin girl,*
ffs laptop keyboard wtf?
>>82627217
La vei boheme
>>82627338
ahem, and here is the special effects, all it needs now is some super quick cel shading and some word balloons and its done
preview:
1- Armadillo: AMELIA!!!!!!
2- Armadillo: What have you done?
2- Fairune: Bitch got in my way of killing you!
>>82627303
i was thinking of doing a comic about pro wrestling
>>82627864
ahh with wrestling figures? that could work okay, but it's never going to really be satisfying ACTION if that's the direction you were going. even the best figures arent fiexible enough for that.
but if it was humor or something, yeah
>>82627832
Armadillo never kills anyone outside of a duel, but his emotions will get the best of him and he will do something like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yfr_Zj1iU4
pic also sort of related, sort of
>>82627207
Have you looked closely at the OP?
>>82627974
if guides were all we needed there'd be no need for teachers. everyone should just shutup and read a book
>>82628106
That isn't what I mean.
hi im jotnu
>>82628572
horny omg typing is so hard :((((
>>82627832
no lines, lol
>>82627832
shaded
>>82629089
that's some weird fetish you got there, man
>>82629089
and its done! i hope yall like it! more pages here: http://fates.thecomicseries.com/
perfect song for this page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBuq2HQsEOo
>>82629192
huh? what fetish? how are you getting fetish material out of this anon?
For the love of god.
>>82629728
post comics dude
>>82624047
I'm pretty happy with its growth, both creatively and in terms of audience. Things are looking up!
>>82629728
Grow up.
>>82630611
no they aren't. that is just your subconscious rationalizing your failures to make yourself feel better. your comic is most likely shit
>this few people posting their shit on a HYW thread
-_- ugh ... like wtf? so disappointed with ppl rn
>>82631304
Why are there laces with no visible split? Do you not know how clothes work?
>>82631370
NO BULLY!!
>>82631964
Nice picture, but is it related to your comic? Otherwise I think the Batthread would be a better fit.
>>82632099
Tangentially.
>>82631370
Why are you nitpicking with no visible shame? Do you not know how etiquette works?
>>82632471
Hey go suck my cock faggot
>>82625094
Know why you are making a comic. It really helps.
>>82631370
Perhaps the lacing is purely decorative, with no practical function. See also those garments covered in buckles, straps and zippers.
>>82632099
>>82632506
>the internet's toughest guy, cracking skulls and not abidinig any foolishness!
seriously though this whole "everyone hates scribblehatch" thing is very clearly "one irate poster really hates scribblehatch" which is pretty embarrassing
>>82624047
Waiting to be actualised.
At least I've gotten better at drawing in the meantime.
>>82632569
I was being genuine. I really like the picture (though I think some contrasting values would help the details of the costume read better), but I think it would find a better home in the art threads. It's not personal to Scribblehatch.
>>82624047
Well this happened.
Why would you drag this debate on for like three threads. Are we that devoid of real content?
>not doing vidya webcomic for easy ad shekels
>>82632164
So it's not related. If it were related you would have just said yes.
>>82632569
There are at least two active posters and I know for a fact that several other people, most of them regular contributors to this very thread with comics of their own, actively dislike him but take the high ground and don't post about it.
>>82632565
Even decorative lacing would have a faux split which, while not a true split, would at least look like one, similar in concept to the fake pockets that you find on a lot of women's trousers these days, where there's a buttonhole and a button but no actual pocket.
>>82631370
Grow up and answer my god damn question. Do you know how clothes work or don't you?
>>82632776
p-pls no bully..
>>82632776
confirmed for making shit comic and having sour grapes
>>82632640
meant to be>>82631370 my bad
>>82632669
Make it part of the comic, it looks pretty cool, like he's bleeding
>>82632596
I think I'll work on this one in the meantime.
To practice drawing while burning thru ideas. I noticed my art deteriorates when I'm making comics, but not when I focus on practices and, weirdly enough, when I take breaks from drawing altogether.
>>82632669
If you redraw the whole page it might turn out better than the original. Happened to me with several drawings, so why not a whole page.
>>82627946
>ahh with wrestling figures?
Yeah with action figures, it's going to be an action comedy drama, but it's all just parody.
you know how wwe always has some bad plot, like Wrestler A slept with Wrestler B's sister or some shit? that's pretty much it.
i'm thinking of using shitty dollar store wrestling and action figures for the characters, and cutting out images of people in magazines to be the audience kinda like how you see them in a ps1 or N64 wwe game.
>>82632776
>actively dislike him
Uh huhhh? What does that mean?
To the anon who asked before:
No, I don't have a background in animation, but I have studied the contrasts between conveying motion in animation and conveying motion in comics for a long time. As a sort of hobby, and in the development of my own techniques.
>>82631304
Hey, this isn't bad!
>>82625172
Disagree. A lot people won't even give your story a chance if the art is shit. Conversely, if your art is really good, that can motivate people to put up with a mediocre story.
So unless your writing is God Tier or something, it's hard to hold an audience with even mediocre writing and shit art.
It's comics. Not literature. To me art is weighted more heavily.
>>82633083
I love it. Nice page! I also like that you write your own sound effects.you wrote that, right? that's not a font?
>>82633155
I'm the exact opposite. Writing is what matters. I'll overlook middling art if the writing is on point. But if the art is great and the writing sucks, it just ain't good enough. Good visuals can only carry the work if it's animation. Still image comics? Writing all the way.
And I'm not alone in that sentiment. It's almost like many people have different tastes or something, and it's a fool's errand to make the post you made.
>>82633083
*Whose O.C. is that
Who's = who is
Whose
I keep coming back and enlarging this drawing. So good!
>>82633155
My take on it is that people understand that comics are a visual medium but they don't know what that means.
>>82633155
>Conversely, if your art is really good, that can motivate people to put up with a mediocre story.
I'm with you. I've read through countless chink comics to confirm this. HOWEVER, there is a limit to everything. A story with really shitty art like the OG One Punch Man still pulls in readers because of the story. Not to mention, even if the art is gorgeous but the story utterly shit, it'll only take time before the readers grow weary. You can only pull them in for a limited time.
I think topnotch art is good bonus and eye candy to attract people, but don't make your drawings look like utter shit too, you know.
Good writing is important. And so is art.
But one is more important than the other, and its writing. Because writing is what has to be good FIRST.
But the mistake people are making is wondering how they'll gather the most eyeballs. Brad Bird knows what's up about this; You can't account for an entire audience of people you'll never meet. Too many pitfalls. When you're creating something, make the thing YOU have always wanted to see. Aim to knock the socks off a younger version of yourself.
One house has to be kempt before the other, making it more important. And that is WRITING.
>>82633047
Not that guy, but I've recently stopped responding to Scribblehatch because of his attitude. I don't know if he's intentionally trolling or if he's just that bad at socializing, but I'm done wasting my time on him.
>>82633451
You're anonymous.
>>82633412
Pictures are a kind of 'language' as far as comic books go, so stressing the importance of writing refers to the art anyway.
>>82633412
well yeah. You are making a story after all. You'd want readers to look back into it when it's long finished and go "it was such a fun read!" rather than "it was ehh, but it had great art!"
>>82633172
Yeah. It's honestly faster to me to just draw it rather than search endlessly for the perfect font and then try to resize and rotate it right. Though I use a lot of fonts for other stuff.
>>82633486
Yes.
Were you trying to make a point?
>>82633487
Alright let's replace writing with "storytelling."
It's 4 syllables but it will have to do in this case.
>>82633508
>"it was ehh, but it had great art!"
Aaahh... Pic related.
No one speaks well of this fucking disaster.
>>82633205
Fixed. Nice catch, thanks.
>>82633618
My scale is too wide for that pic to be anywhere near great.
>>82633648
Your WHAT?
Are you talking shit about Joe Mad?
>>82633047
Cowardly cads who know their comics suck so they do not speak publicly, that or they are fictitious entities dreamed up by the trolls to give the impression that it's not just anonymous dorks targeting him.
>>82633204
Following that logic so is your own post.
>>82633221
There is that too yeah.
>>82633323
Oh, absolutely, there have been comics where the art was great but the story was SO terrible that it just couldn't be salvaged. OR it had some other significant problem like horrible paneling or gratuitous walls of text.
I'd never say this was an absolute. There's a limit break on everything.
>>82633412
Disagree. In a comic art is more important. If you have amazing art you can basically dick around and people will still at least look at your stuff.
if your art is garbage you'll barely get the benefit of the doubt. At least from me. I've "noped" countless books back onto the shelves after cracking them open. And I'm not the only one who's like that.
But of course, this is a matter of personal taste. All these generic cape artists are still getting work after all.
>>82633648
Same.
Alex Ross is a better example. Even if the story is shit I'll look at that art all day.
>>82633764
So don't have bad art either. Work hard not to have bad art.
But if you dump your stats into art first you're a fucking FOOL.
My PC is busted so I've been drawing a lot in my sketchbook instead of digitally.
This is my main character, is she cute enough for /co/?
>>82633818
>not resized
>not rotated
I wish a swift recovery on your PC.
>>82633809
You would know, you clearly didn't dump many stats into writing because your comic is BOOOOOORING
>>82633818
Aside from the hands, there's nothing about it where I'd go "wow that's bad".
What kind of character is it?
>>82633818
you'll get publicly iced for it in 4chin unless she becomes just a minor character.
>>82633838
NO BULLYYYYY
>>82633809
Jokes on you, that's how most independents start. It takes WAY less time to get better at telling a story comic wise than it does learning to fucking draw in the upper scale beyond "good."
So staring with a strong art build is WAY preferential to having an epic story no one wants to read because they can't get passed your vomit all around the word bubbles.
>>82633924
Wrangling the story assets takes time. The more you hoard the better.
Oda was writing One Piece since he was 10.
>>82633835
Yeah I'm on my phone, sorry.just waiting for a new power supply
>>82633868
Thank you! I need to work on my hands, feet too.
I guess I'd describe her character as a fun girl who likes to smoke cigarettes and drink coffee.
>>82634076
That's neat - kinda saw her as more of a soft drink type than a coffee girl.
What kind of story does she star in? Why's she the main character?
Man, looking at this last panel, I should probably learn to vary my blonde hair colors a bit more.
>>82626394
Swallows for sure.
>>82634347
I love Skeggold in that forth panel... I need to draw her and the other MC whose name I can't think of now because I want to (with the beautiful nose!)
Also riffing on that other post - comics are about storytelling, which is the synthesis of writing and visual art. It's worth it to be good at both of them - and it's possible to be good at both of them independently but still be a poor storyteller.
>>82634347
Soda probably would suit her personality more. And the type of story I want to make is about the changes that happen in young adult hood, for better and for worse and adapting to those changes and growing up. I picked her as the main character mostly because while she tries to be laid back and go with the flow, she's really quite anxious about her and her friends futures in their 20's.
Also I really like you art style, the beak nosed lady is cool.
>>82629506
ya know i kept adding stuff to it like chairs, hair shine and a bunch of other stuff but ran into to many problems with adding to many details
1-bar chairs in panel 2 distract from Armadillo holding his girlfriends dying body
2-hairshine distracts from the word balloons and pulls the eyes away from the word balloons and makes the page hard to read
3- accurate blood on the floor on the bottom two panels distracts you from both the characters and the word balloons
so yeah, i had to leave a bunch of stuff out that should be on the page so reading the page and seeing the art at the same time would be perfect! perfect page flow!
read my vomit
>>82634846
comic * autocorrecy
>>82634863
Autocorrect is trying to tell you something important.
>>82634549
Looking forward to it, Anon.
("Skalmöld". Means something like "age of swords", or a civil war. Not to be confused with the Icelandic metal band of almost the same name)
>>82634626
Oh, that's pretty neat. Yeah, that seems like a pretty interesting protagonist for that kind of narrative. IMHO don't make her a soft drink girl just because it would suit her more - I think having that kind of idiosyncrasy is absolutely perfect for the kind of story you're talking about.
>cool
Thanks! I'm afraid Hrist's not a very major character or anything, but she's a lot of fun to draw.
>>82635016
shot the duck up
>>82631304 >>82632164
>>82634347
I really wish you hadn't bothered with all these filler strips and gone straight to chapter 2 instead, because other than this one strip, the rest of the filler hasn't been funny and I haven't really learned anything about the characters or gained any new appreciation for them. It's been the worst kind of filler.
>>82632776
maybe it's like barney rubble's shirt
>>82632967
that sounds great dude. i support the fuck outta that.
but i would still scan and photoshop in the audience rather than pasting them literally into the background. though you COULD set up like, cardboard stands and realistically layer them.. that's a lotta work. reminds me of the 'bottle spoonheads' sketch
>>82635228
I can see where you're coming from, but I really needed a break before getting started on chapter 2. This intermission has given me a chance to revise chapter 2 and get around half of it sketched out, build a buffer, get the hang of working in a new program, and generally get it so that chapter 2 won't suffer from a lot of the issues that I ran into with chapter 1.
I'd probably have been able to get around to this faster if I didn't make the inbetween strips, but I really didn't want to go that long without any updates at all.
I was hoping the setting of the strips, being more focused on the day-to-day lives of the characters when they're not on any kind of adventure, would let the reader see them from a new angle - Skeggöld as the rookie valkyrie who hasn't gotten used to all the magic stuff, Skalmöld's past coming up, etc. Also, a few subtle plot seeds and character introductions that will hopefully one day bear fruit.
Anyway, at worst there's gonna be one or two strips of filler after this one, so I hope you'll bear over with me 'till then.
>>82635809
I'll keep that in mind.
i just happen to have already gotten myself a couple of wrestling figures, one of them has a chainsaw
>>82634347
Roughs/pencils for page 1 of an 8-page mini-epic. I have it thumbnailed out on paper, and I'll aim to build up a buffer then start it next month at one page a week.
Nice big crowd scene in the first panel, so it's likely I'll drop in some HYW cameos.
>>82634347
P4: I thought the white haired girls were twins from the thumbnail, but they have completely different eyes. Maybe make white girl 3 even paler, and give pigtail girl 4 a ruddier complexion and redder hair, to get a little more variation in tones and to contrast more with Skeg at the back.
>>82635815
Different guy, but the only filler strips I really liked were the newest one with Skeggold and (coincidence???) the one with Skeggold sharpening her axe. The other ones had problems, for example Death Pants was such an obscure reference that its impact was lost on most people who read it, and the one with Skalmold's ex personally made me scratch my head because I didn't know enough about the character (until you pointed it out in /hyw/, something the average reader doesn't go to) to understand why a teenage-looking girl would have an ex that looked rather old. (that one also has the problem of once again being Norse mythology that most of the readers won't get until you explain it to them, which kills the joke)
The stuff that was simple, like with Skeggold sharpening her axe and the most recent Skeggold one, worked, but the stuff that was more complex and required more advance knowledge of Norse mythology and the characters (knowledge that the average reader doesn't seem to have) didn't work.
I hope you don't view this as harsh criticism or anything, I think your comic is one of the best in /hyw/, I've just seen so much anime I don't have patience for filler that is largely lackluster.
>>82620944
Too lazy to draw, and when I do it doesn't look good, what do?
Also, you guys have tablets or stuff like that or you draw on paper and scan?
>>82636542
Take a break. Play, read, do whatever.
I draw on tablets.
I'm scrapping everything. I have to start over from scratch so I can do this thing properly. How to deal with this feel?
>>82636542
Take a break and use it to read Tyranny of the Moment by Thomas Hylland Eriksen.
>>82636202
I don't know that "poh-neeey" needs the y at the end - it feels a little more shrill to me if it's just e's.
>twins
That's intended. They're supposed to be identical except for the eyes (even then, the eyes are supposed to have the same general shape).
Ruddier skin's a good idea to make roundface stand out but I want to keep her blonde for that stereotypical Wagnerian Brunhilde look.
>>82636363
Nice trips.
I see where you're coming from too. With Death Pants, I'd hoped the joke "Svipul is into some weird magic shit" would still come across, but I think I got into a cow tools situation where people assume there's more to the joke if you know the context.
The one with the ex, I definitely overestimated how much the average reader would know about Norse mythology (or perhaps rather how readily they'd make the connections between stuff they kinda know) and relied too much on implication for Skalmöld's age - even if the reader reasoned that Skalmöld must be older than she aååears, it would take long enough that the punchline would've died.
You're not coming off as harsh at all! I really appreciate the feedback.
>>82636542
Try challenging yourself to incorporating a new technique in the drawing. Sometimes the reason I'm too lazy to draw something is because it's too easy.
I do the vast majority of the comic on tablet, but I like to plan things like thumbnails on paper because I can do it away from my computer.
>>82636918
Look at how much better the end result is.
Maybe take a break from the thing for a bit before starting over?
>>82636918
when you need to fart, do you get up from your computer chair and fart somewhere else or do you just fart on the spot and smell it while you work?
>>82636918
I've restarted with my assets in my animations countless times now but every time it improves drastically. It's to the point where the first draft is actually really embarrassing compared to what I have now and I'll probably start from scratch one last time before I start releasing them. I have to say though, these threads really help.
>>82634347
>I should probably learn to vary my blonde hair colors a bit more.
i lived in a very germanic small town once and i wondered if maybe god thought that
because holy shit it was like a field of boring-ass samey wheat
>>82636987
Ok
>>82636989
Going to have to start leaving the chair because of you
>>82637026
Yeah, but you're a god
>>82636542
I'm lazy too so I can't help with that. But I use both tablets and paper. My tablet is the generic Wacom bamboo. But I use a mix of printer paper and sketch pad paper. Copic markers, Dixon ticonderoga pencils,pigma micron 01 for line art and I think my sharpener is prismacolor brand. I have no idea what my scanner is I got it in 2012
>>82637096
>pigma micron 01
Man, how can people use that shit? It always bleeds at end of the lines, m8. Like pic related.
>>82635208
was not expecting one to have a pumpkin head!
>>82636202
aw ponycorns. oddcouples are so great
>>82636363
>teenage-looking girl
maybe it's the nose and the forehead but i always saw her as an ancient crone, except not wrinkly. it kinda depends how she's drawn though.. she's like Pearl. early episodes Pearl looked awful, now the model is more even and appealing
then again i also saw washuu as a milf in what was supposed to be her 'loli mode' because i'm used to cute little old ladies, so
>>82636987
The biggest issue with the filler so far is we just don't know enough about the characters to appreciate it properly. Having a cast page or doing some more explicit expanding on the characters' backstories would really help.
>>82635208
Pumpkin queen is best
>>82636989
Everyone likes their own brand don't they
>>82636918
I feel as though I might have too too for sake of the story not being a jumbled mess and changing the roles of the 2ndary MCs since I'm omitting the prologue (becauseI'mtoolazytoscanit).
Also because the plot is literally based off of a dream and it's pretty evident it makes no sense to anybody.
>>82637064
I.... what?
Do you post your work here very often? I usually just change my work according to critiques here unless it's something stupid like "don't use red and blue" That first picture in that comparison image was only from a few months ago when I first started posting in these threads for suggestions. Maybe you should try posting some of your work and what you're wanting to change so we can help you.
Disgusting arm. Bending on a weird way. So this is why there are weird arm drawings on some manga.
>>82637365
I don't post here that often but then again I'm trying to write everything out before moving to the artwork so there isn't really anything to post. For now I'll keep most of it to myself, once I have a better idea on what I'm doing I'll post more here.
I wrote a sex scene for my occult detective comic today, which I almost never do, because I don't want my comic to be labeled as a sex comic or anything, especially since it's a gay sex scene, so I can see it being off-putting or hard to take serious..
But anyway, just drew some back sides to see if, well, if I could draw them. And as always, I ''modeled'' for these myself. Usually I draw in front of a mirror, but drawing over your shoulder just felt so ridiculous that I just took some pictures.
What do you guys think? Yay or nay backs? And also, what do you think about sex in comics? I personally don't mind it, if it's anatomically realistic and without ''porn noises''. Cartoon sex I can't handle, instant turn-off. Just can't take it seriously.
>>82637387
Yeah, sometimes you need to use common sense when using a reference picture. Many times the drawn pose is anatomically perfectly correct, but comes off as wonky, cause human anatomy can be pretty wonky sometimes and in specific poses.
>>82637813
Those have really pronounced hip curves and buttocks for men.
Personally, I usually skip sex scenes in comics.
>>82637813
jesus you've got some waist and butt going on. though each picture exaggerates it more, so i'm thinking you intentionally deviated from your own anatomy to get more variety
anyway do all the sex you want. the most offensive thing to me is a person holding back
obviously -i'm- not going to enjoy a comic with gay sex in it, but i wouldnt anyway if you kept it out just for me. how the fuck would that make me feel?
>>82637813
Well I'm asexual so I don't reed porn comics, but I don't mind if it's part of the story. I meen, every normal person has sex so it makes sense. Are you yourself gay or is that just the characters? anyways, I think those backs look ok, though I think the anatomy is just a bit off. Then again, I have scoliosis so I'm really not the best to judge what a good back looks like.
>>82637813
>sex scene
>in an occult detective comic
>this style
Have you ever read "Black cherry"?
>>82633787
Joe Madueira is a way better comic artist than Alex Ross. Ross is a great illustrator, but his comics are stiff as fuck.
>>82637955
i appreciate when people acknowledge their abnormalities instead of trying to demand other people be drawn with scoliosis
>>82637917
>>82637930
Yeah, I totally exaggerated the curve in the middle one, but those last ones were taken sit down so it created more natural ''curvage'' anyway. And I got some curves, not saying I don't lol.
>>82637955
Ha, I have mild scoliosis too, so it's funny you noticed it.
And yeah, I'm bi, so I like to explore that a bit in the comic. I don't want to glorify sex, though. I want it to be more realistic, mundane, disappointing, rough, drunken, spontanious, quick, dirty and all those things. Maybe you get a sense from those pictures that I'm aiming to do a porn scene, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I want to keep it real.
>>82637991
Never, but I'll definitely google it. I'm always interested in seeing stuff with a similar style to mine.
>>82638103
Just wait. There has to be at least some nutty sjw scoliosis people who demand representation.
>>82637813
Don't need it. Don't mind it. Cartoon stuff doesn't titilate me as much as it seems to for others, but sex can carry emotional poignancy depending on how you do it. And that's neat.
>>82637813
Was it a lesbian sex scene? If so, neat.
If not, I don't really care to be honest.
>>82632164
>>82635208
>>82631304
Alright Scribble, i've seen you design some characters but I haven't seen a single comic.
Whats up man?
>>82639138
they're for an existing comic, though it's a story within a story iircnobody will ever do this with my characters
btw you're*
>>82639138
He's just posting random art without context, thinking it's the Batman thread. Just ignore him.
>>82639185
Touche Anon. Thanks for the correction.
>>82637813
dont think of them as backs, just draw the lines
also I just finished this page
>>82639442
i love it when people are partially made of fragile crystals. that's happened in like three or four comics in here
>>82639442
I like the use of lighting in the first couple panels. And this page alone has me interested to know more. Nicely done.
>>82639442
Crystal guy is cool and they play off each other well.
Here is the next page for my comic. Page five issue 3. And Yes its overt sexiness is intentional to the story.
>>82640108
too bad i'm incapable of being turned on by overt mainstream sexiness. just feels like 'mom' yknow?
>>82640108
That artstyle is so generic, like DC house style or some shit.
Finally drew one of the characters for another project I'm gonna start. This will be the 3rd comic I've got in the works, I think. I've got a lot of ideas.
>>82640108
I literally have no idea in which order to read these panels because they all overlap like crazy.
>>82640108
>2nd panel pointing posture
>pointing at someone while head up high
Haha I love it!
>>82640715
I read it like S form, but its probably an inverted 3 form. Because otherwise it wouldnt make sense.
>>82640231
Well good. The purpose wasn't to turn you on.
>>82640630 #
>Comparing art to something average from the big two
I doubt you meant that as a compliment, but I'll take it!
>>82640715
That's because there aren't any words to read yet. Maybe wait for the lettering before you say you can't read it yet.
>>82640744
??
>>82640694
You shouldn't take it. The art in >>82640108 feels...boring. It's technically well done, it just has no life to it. If you look at art from other comics in this thread, The Sisters, Carrion Girls, Green Knight, Miss Melee, hell, even West Tree, those comics all feel more vibrant and "alive" than yours does. While on a technical level, they perhaps aren't as polished as your art, the art reads way better because of their style. Your comic...has no style. It's just generican American-style cape comic art #532790.
Shoving tits everywhere doesn't help either, it reminds me of Grimm Fairy Tales and other garbage like that which uses cheesecake to compensate for other deficiencies. Sorry, man, but that shit's boring.
>>82640108
>>82640744
I'm not gonna lie this heads up pointing position looks awkward, especially when the character isn't look at object/person.
Nice line art though.
>>82640822
I mean what I said. She's tilting her head (making it look like shes looking down on her enemy) while pointing at her enemy. Its funny, butnot extremely bad. Like shes mocking her. When you normally point at something, you dont really tilt your head that way, no? Dont even think big boobs block their vision so they have to tilt their heads that way.
>>82640685
well that's creepy as balls
>>82640694
hey that's okay man, it doesn't have to be for everyone
>>82640822
Fair enough. I'm a big fan of how you ink hair by the way. Although I think you should work a bit more on your boob anatomy.
>>82639102
Nah, good old man-on-man-action. I'd be super interested to explore lesbians, but honestly, I don't know any lesbians. Even though my comic has magic and all, the more human parts are 60-70% based on my own life, friends, family and whatever experiences I've had throughout the 21 years of life. I write what I know and see, so that's why I've settled with men for now. But I definitely want all sorts of stuff in to my comic.
>>82639442
Mm, I like this. Seems to be right up my alley.
>>82640630
The comic looks like some kind of superhero comic, so maybe it's suitable?
>>82640108
In what format do you publish your comic? Is it a web comic or..? Looks professional.
>>82640838
>shoving tits
The sexuality is overt because it's a commentary on expectations of superheroines. The sequence is an illusion where they are all hyper sexual. One of the characters I freaking out about it.
And I'm still taking it as a compliment as it stands above most no name works. Thank you for your input. Even though I disagree, I appreciate you breaking down your position.
>>82640947
>>82640885
Ah! Now I get it. Yeah it's a little awkward. I can definitely see that. Lol oops.
>>82641018
>The comic looks like some kind of superhero comic, so maybe it's suitable?
When compared to all but the most generic of house artists, every superhero comic has more life to it than that guy's comic.
>>82640990
I'm just the writer so I will let my artist know about both points. Thanks for the words.
>>82641018
It's in print for the first issue and digital for the second two. I'm looking to move it towards web comic form but I'm having trouble with the square space template.
You can find the first two issues here:https://m.comixology.com/Veiled-and-Vile-1/digital-comic/218366
And herehttps://m.comixology.com/Veiled-and-Vile-2/digital-comic/290321
>>82640685I like it.
>>82640685
I would rate that code 2/5.
>>82641057
Without providing context we would never know that.
>>82641100
>that guys comic
>Says so after one panel
This guy >>82641018 is correct. The point is to emulate traditional superhero comics as much as possible so the satire and tongue and cheek stuff hits home harder.
