>>82537196
I wanna have sex with Black Widow's hair
Is that weird
ANTS
>>82540306
Rumlow's all about pain. He wanted her to suffer.
So am I allowed to say that I didn't think this movie was amazing or will I get crucified for it?
>>82540354
One ant can carry 3 cookies, huh. Just for, uh, the sake of um, research, how many cakes would you estimate a colony could carry away?
>>82540396
That's the general opinion, so it's fine It was good but not great.
>>82540308
The Captain costume when?
>>82540404
About 40
>>82540404
Wrong movie Lex.
>>82540404
40 at the very least.
>>82540343
I'd rather have sex with Wanda's everything
>>82540404
just shy of four dozen
might be closer to three dozen
it's hard to tell
>Avengers
>Clint has almost no screen time and when he's on the screen he's a Mind Gem zombie
>Winter Soldier
>Clint is based as fuck and gets really nice chemistry with the Maximoff twins/get to see husband Clint/dad Clint
>Civil War
>Clint even more badass
Will Dadeye be even cooler in Infinity War?
>>82540343
>that woman in the back looking at dat ass
>>82540457
Maybe if they can stop him from aging like bad milk.
He definitely had the tired dad look down in this movie.
>>82540452
>>82540449
40 or so? That's just terrifying.
>>82540457
You mean Age of Ultron, not Winter Soldier.
And Hawkeye was fucking insufferable in that movie. Him and his faggot kids and his gay farm.
If they hadn't spent THE ENTIRE MOVIE playing up the "Hawkeye's gonna die" joke I might have liked him.
>>82540442
>>82540449
That's not good. Not horrible, but not awful. Somewhere inbetween.
>>82540496
This. I didn't fucking care about his family at all.
I hated Pietro died for this shit.
>>82540343
Actually it's extremely normal
Did anyone else think Cap and his argument just seemed entirely forced in this movie? "The nations of the world have decided that they're not all that cool with us just showing up, wrecking shit, and leaving, so we can only operate under the sanction of a global U.N. Council" seemed pretty damn reasonable.
>>82540082
>you will never be Anthony Burch
Thanks anon, I needed this after my week
>>82540539
Because the U.N. has historically been super effective at preventing catastrophe or doing anything useful at all
>>82540539
It falls apart when you realize that the security council was perfectly fine with just firing a nuke at NYC in Avengers, but is hot and bothered over 100-something deaths instead?
>>82540343
It's one of her best, after the awful look of the TWS one, and the hit-or-miss short cut.
>>82540539
I don't think Cap was wrong. He made a very good point of what if there's something they can do to help but the UN says no, or vice versa?
The government is corrupt and everyone is out for some political agenda.
>>82540457
>>82540496
For some reason people go on and on about how we need a Black Widow movie when it's Hawkeye who has received the least attention and screen time of the original six.
>>82540561
I mean, the Avengers weren't doing such a great job of that themselves.
>POST YFW GIANT MAN
>>82540576
>Saved the Earth from an alien invasion
>Saved the earth from a killer robot
>Apparently spent the time between WS and AoU crushing Hydra cells
>>82540343
I didn't hear any of the dialogue between her and Stark when they were standing on that balcony. My mind was 100% focused on that fucking thigh gap.
>>82540539
It's deliberately one of those things where there's no yes/no right/wrong answer.
The idea behind the accords is mostly right, but Cap's disagreements aren't invalid.
Likewise Cap is right about a lot of things, but the people questioning him and pointing out that he's wrong in some ways, are also not wrong.
>>82540539
Wasn't there a line when Steve said the only reason Tony is supporting it is because if something goes wrong, it won't weigh on his conscious as much?
>>82540595
>>82540595
>>82540539
I'd rather have superheroes show up and wreck shit to stop an alien invasion than let the UN handle it anyway.
And unless the Accords have a provision about restricting AI research it doesn't even address the Avengers' biggest blunder.
>>82540535
Just watch X-Men Apocalypse
>>82540595
>>82540539
The part that bugs me is like, the Avengers didnt stick around to help at all? As soon as Ultron was dead they peaced out? Id always figured they helped rebuild somewhat or atcleast save anyone else that needed saving real quick.
>Help Im dying! This beam is crushing my lungs!
>Yeah well, the big bad is dead, so Im clocking out...
>>82540423
Not it's not.
>>82540617
Please dont. The shitposting finally quieted down from the last thread.
Thoughts on the new Spider Man in one word.
Why did they call the villain Zemo? Won't that make it confusing if they ever use Zemo?
Why did they call the villain Zemo? Won't that make it confusing if they ever use Zemo?
>>82540539
Governments have failed him before.
Governments have agendas, and he can't stand that bureaucracy.
He is.explicit while arguing with Tony, and I happen to agree when we're dealing with a world with evil organizations.
>tfw you liked Tony/Pepper and now never get to see them in movies
At least Rhodes has stuck with Tony. But I miss Tony's supporting cast. I feel like he's lost the most.
>>82540651Spectacular.
>>82540595
mfw
>>82540651
Forced
How do you justify Cap being more in the right than Ironman?
>>82540595
>>82540634
How much longer before Anthony Russo stops making "X will die in Stan Lee's lifetime" threads?
>>82540651
awesome
>>82540651
Fuck that limit.
His characterization was perfect but fuck that voice
>B- b- b- but that's how fifteen year olds sound!
If you guys want I can dig up videos of me and my friends from high school. Tom Holland just sounds like a girl.
>>82540673
I think that one of the biggest reasons that he was in the movie at all is that Marvel wanted to see what their idea of Spider Man would actually look like on screen.
>>82540595
>>82540651
He'shome
>>82540651
AUNT MAY IS SEXY
FUCK YOU AND YOUR ONE WORD
>>82540625
Too young, not Slav and beefcake enough.
>>82540689
It's a Cap movie, therefore it's showing more of his perspective on the issue. Hypothetically, if it was Iron Man: Civil War, it would probably be skewed more towards Tony's side
>>82540713
He was an advertisement.
>>82540712
That is how fifteen year olds sound. Go outside.
>>82540712
>Fuck that limit
what
>>82540539
Might have been reasonable if you ignore the fact that in most of the previous movies those governments have been shown to be thoroughly infiltrated by enemy organizations.
>>82540712
If you were the type of fifteen year-old who took videos of himself, I can assure you we don't care to see them.
>>82540576
>saved NYC from alien invasion
>saved millions from being annihilated in seconds by HYDRA
>saved countless lives from perishing when Sokovia fell
Yes, people have died in all these events.
It's nowhere near the amount of people that would've perished had they not acted.
>>82540743
I know you're in high school so your perception is warped but only kids who had a problem in puberty sound like that. They very easily could have gotten a teenager that sounded like the consistent Spider-Man voice style we've had for thirty years
So any idea if it's worth watching this film in 3D or not?
>>82540749
I'm just waiting to see it in Black Panther.
>"King T'challa, I have something to say to you."
>"Yes, my most trusted of royal advisors."
>"Hail Hydra."
Every fucking time.
>>82540749
This. For YEARS apparently the world security council was A-OK with SHIELD protecting the world from weird shit but then it turns out SHIELD was corrupt on the very highest levels.
So after being used before, why would Cap want to put himself at the beck and call of more politicians?
>>82540776
I saw it in 3D and XD. No, it's not worth it for 3D
>>82540749
just like real life
>>82540730
What a waste of a perfectly beautiful Quickslav.
>>82540773
Yeah, probably in the 1960's.
I always wanted Cap to end up with waitress girl from the first avengers movie but Sharon is good too you know(maybe better). She had the right amount of time in WS to set up her character and after that in Civil War ended up being cute as fuck
>>82540761
To be fair, Sokovia was all fucking Tony's fault to begin with.
>>82540740
I felt like a lot of the emotional weight of the movie was skewed in Tony's favor, even though I was Team Cap going in and out. It felt like Steve's own movie got hijacked out from under him. As an Avengers movie I loved it, but as the final in the Cap sequel I felt a bit robbed it explored Tony's character more than Steve.
>Martin Freeman appears
>just acts like Martin Freeman
>>82540773
>I know you are currently surrounded by teenagers, so you obviously don't know what they sound like
Nigga am I reading this correctly
>>82540776
Unless it's a nature/space documentary being shown in a legitimate IMAX theater, nothing is worth 3D. It makes everything dark and blurry, and the fight scenes in this must look absolutely terrible with all that extra added blur
>>82540796
OK, thought as much.
>>82540776
>is _______ worth seeing in 3D
no
I actually liked T'Challa in this movie
Fight me
>>82540595
>>82540822
>High schoolers
>Having perception
Oh, you're sweet.
Does Captain America not know what a compromise is?
>>82540595
>>82540821
>Everett appears in Doctor Strange
>>82540830
Not to mention, the giant city titles was annoying as fuck. It was even worse in 3D
>>82540808
THIS.
I hate how they literally never even mention Ultron in this movie.
It's Sokovia this and Sokovia that, but no one ever raises their hand and says "Hey, remember how Tony went and created an evil robot? And yet now he's telling us WE need policing?
Why did Tony face literally ZERO repercussion for nearly destroying the earth?
>>82540637
They do rescue efforts. Immediately after the explosion in this one they call paramedics and shit, and Cap was going to search the building.
We just don't see the aftermath because we are following a personal narrative.
>>82540714
>Sam and Bucky will never be your bros
>>82540740
>Iron Man: Civil War
>Tony's proposals sound reasonable, because the general directly tells him on screen that the world security council will basically turn the Avengers into living weapons that are imprisoned anyway
>Steve is intentionally obtuse and pontificates on ideals and values to the point that they aren't even grounded in reality
>refuses to take a pragmatic stance on anything, everything is just as clear cut and black and white as it was in 1944
>to add insult to injury, he is constantly taking jabs at Tony
>Hey Tony, where's pepper? She pregnant yet?
>Hey Tony, remember how I had a better relationship with your dad than you did?
>Hey Tony, this is my friend Bucky. He's the guy that beat your dad's face until it was concave and strangled your mom to death
Being Tony is suffering
>>82540846
>I have the same opinion 99% of the people who saw this film have
>fight me
>>82540730
A Speedster in the MCU would be so cool. I fucking hate you Whedon
>>82540457
I need a replica of his rad as shit bow from Civil War that turns into that blade-staff whateverthefuck. That was amazing.
>>82540846
T'Challa was GOAT, mang. No one is arguing this.
I loved his fight style and his mannerisms.
>>82540821
>Martin Freeman wasn't Henry Peter Gyrich
What a waste.
I thought the shakey-cam whenever Black Widow was fighting to distract from her being bad made the movie almost painful to watch. Not like it was bad, I mean like my eyes literally got sore.
>>82540661
Thats the point....Tony's lost everything except Rhodes after AOU. The guy who stood up in front of congress and said "Fuck you guys muh suit." is now Looking for someway to help make up for what he has done...Makes you feel for tony though he did it him self.
>>82540846
But that's the correct opinion
Slightly off topic but you ever wonder how Peter Quill would react to all this crazy shit happening on earth?
>Me and Tom Holland are the same age
>While he's off being Spider-Man
>I'm a NEET
>>82540855
I'm an adult, yet it'd only take a toddler to point out how dumb your arguments are.
>>82540871
desu I can't remember if it was ever stated that the public knew that Iron Man made Ultron
>>82540689
>How do you justify Cap being more in the right than Ironman?
I don't think he is. And I say that as someone who loves Cap.
>>82540846
T'Challa was so based.
>>82540846
Black Panther was OP as fuck.
Also
>Get's shot in the fucking head by automatic gunfire and literally doesn't even flinch
>Get's shocked a bit by Blck Widow, down for the count
>>82540886
I'm a unique snowflake
>>82540922
Don't let your dreams be dreams.
>>82540885
You're talking like the jabs were intentional. Steve didn't know about Pepper and Steve obviously remembers Howard Stark fondly. Steve is a boy scout. When he says "I'm always honest" he's not bullshitting. He's basically what cinematic Superman should be.
>>82540919
Like Ant-Man but with space jargon.
>>82540919
He wouldn't care. He'd be too excited over the fact that Weird Al is still a thing since he left.
>>82540866
Oh my god, let this happen. Please.
So in the Civil War comics, did Tony already figure out that Spidey was Peter? I just kinda thought that was weird that Tony already figured it out in the movie and yet no one else on either team knows yet.
>>82540901
It seemed like they were trying to use different camera styles for different power levels. The street level guys got the Bourne-esque shaky cam shots, the more powerful and faster heroes got the wide, sweeping perspective shots to show them flying or swinging or whatever.
>>82540871
Not to mention, the uprising of bad guys happened after Tony announced himself as Iron Man.
Vision even said that himself and no one fought him on that.
Tony was just covering his own ass.
>>82540846
So did everyone else, ace.
>>82540938
I'm pretty sure Vibranium conducts electricity.
>>82540539
With the exception of the fight at the beginning of the movie, every one of those situations would have been infinitely worse if the Avengers hadn't intervened. New York would have been nuked/taken over by Loki, Hydra would have killed millions of people, and Ultron would have wiped out humanity. It's actually pretty ridiculous how low the Avengers managed to keep civilian casualties.
>>82540876
Does Tony pay for any repairs or buildings or reperations to victims? He'll pay for a whole room of fuckwit MIT students whatever so I'm hoping he's helping out elsewhere too.
>>82540970
I was going to point out Cap being defrosted and whatnot but I like your answer too much
>>82540964
I'm framing it like if it were an Iron Man-centric movie. What those scenes would look like from his perspective.
>>82540922
>tfw the same age as Jennifer Lawrence
>>82540807
I'm of a handful of people that felt the kiss served a purpose.
I doubt we'll see more of her, though.
>>82540595
>>82540972
Please no, the Johnlock would make me vomit.
>>82540997
He bought that building before he destroyed it in AOU. Must be convenient to have a lot of money to throw at damage like that. The mom at the beginning had a point.
>>82540891
Speaking of which, does anyone have a theatercam gif/webm of this?
>>82540990
Rumlow would have been in possession of a biological weapon as well.
>>82540990
It's actually pretty funny how low the casualty counts were for those catastrophic events. Didn't less than 1000 people die in the Battle of New York? Anyone have the caps?
>>82540927
One of the Avengers should've brought it up. I mean Tony is taking one of his actions (which he deliberately hid from the team because he knew they wouldn't approve) and using it to justify putting restraints on the whole team.
I know Cap wouldn't mention it because he's too good a guy, but I sort of expected someone like Hawkeye to say something about it.
>>82540808
To be fair, Sokovia was also Wanda's fault.
And Hydra's too for that matter.
>>82541025
The what now?
>>82540990
This.
People are fucking stupid. Even with the bomb that Wanda deflected, there was hundreds of people on that crowded street, plus they stole a biological weapon.
That shit could have gotten so much worse.
>>82541025
Your suffering would make it even better for me.
>>82541036
Well then I guess we're 4 for 4 here.
>>82540815
Nah, to me it felt 100% Cap focused
>>82540871
Stark mentions it. His guilt is his motivation. I think he agrees that it's weird that he got off basically scott free, and part of him is glad that that woman blames him for her son's death and that the Accords are a thing. Funding college projects only does so much to ease guilt
>>82540970
>implying Weird Al isn't currently in deep space in the MCU
>>82540922
>>82541018
>tfw same age as Mace Dindu from TFA
So clearly all this civil war plot stuff is gonna be put on hold till Infiinty War probably right? No way they will mention any MCU stuff during Doctor Strange (or at least not till the end) and no doubt GotG 2 will maybe end with them going to earth for some reason and/or Thanos heading to Earth to set up Infinty War.
Funniest moment in the movie?
>Spidey's shit talking Falcon and WS
>Falcon's drone flies by
>Spidey thwips it by accident
>Get's swung out the window
>AUUUUUUGHHH!
>Crossbones hyped up a shitton
>dies 10 minutes in
WHY
>>82541040
This was part of my issue with the movie. The whole thing is so utterly contrived. They have to act like these three isolated incidents were giant massacres or something to justify leaching the Avengers
>>82541042
Hawkeye wasn't there when they discussed the Accords. His first appearance was at the compound to break Wanda out.
>>82541019
I really would like to see her more.
Cap's needs some loving
>>82540846
Only butthurt contrarians would disagree.
>>82541080
What was the point of suiciding anyways since he's just a merc now
>>82541066
>First scene with Tony LITERALLY has him reliving the last moment he ever saw his parents alive
>Civil War WASN'T emotionally biased towards Tony
Did we watch the same movie?
>>82540922
>tfw I'm the same age as Chris Hemsworth
Thank God I don't have kids. Fuck that.
>>82541062
Well Ultron would never have happened without Tony and Banner so 3 for 4. Also the part where Ross asked where Thor and Hulk were was dumb as shit. Thor went home at the end of AOU and Tony and Cap both know this.
>>82541098
Revengaaaaa
>>82541080
Because Zemo - despite being the best MCU villain so far - is basically impossible to hype. Anything about him you could stick in a promotional trailer would seem weird and out of place compared to SPECTACLE SPECTACLE DRAMA.
>>82540714
>getting 3 caps for 1 price
>>82541083
>They have to act like these three isolated incidents were giant massacres or something to justify leaching the Avengers
Ross listed a lot more incidents than just Avengers/TWS/AOU, even not including the multiple ones in CW itself
>>82541067
Yeah, So after all this time Tony decides to grow a conscience but instead of like, trying to make ammends for his own fuck ups he decides the best course of action is to put the rest of the Avengers under his thumb
>>82541083
Didn't Tony directly have a part in setting up the accords, though? I feel like the whole thing was driven by his personal guilt more-so than the actual amount of damage caused.
>>82541049
Two uglies bumping uglies
>>82541019
>I'm of a handful of people that felt the kiss served a purpose.
There was a purpose - the Disney execs ordered it.
The actors nor the Russos were happy about that shoe horned scene. They even agreed they should've had a better build up.
You can look it up.
>>82540570
It is the best IMO
>>82540462
White girl got da booty
>>82540457
By Infinity War 2 he will be the coolest character in the universe
>>82540651
Holyshit
>>82540661
I love Cheadle as Rhodey, I wish we got another film that focused on the two of them but way better than IM2. Just two hours of IM2's finale.
>>82541136
No, he said
>New York
>Washington
>Sokovia
>Nigeria
>>82541166
>source: My Ass Magazine
>>82540539
>Did anyone else think Cap and his argument just seemed entirely forced in this movie? "The nations of the world have decided that they're not all that cool with us just showing up, wrecking shit, and leaving, so we can only operate under the sanction of a global U.N. Council" seemed pretty damn reasonable.
You didn't notice that it was all for show, and the REAL person in charge is Ross? The UN is just going to do what ever Ross says. The UN isn't going to ever get to decide anything when the US of A can throw its weight around and have he control over ALL of the Avengers in the Accord.
>>82541166
>Whedon gets forced to add something
>he fucks everything up
>Russos get forced to add something
>turn it into the best visual gag of the movie
Based
>>82541169
IM2/TWS > the rest
>>82541111
Last scenes of the movie were Tony handling Rhodey's injuries and getting a letter from Steve. Steve breaking the Avengers out of the prison was a quick implied shot rather than showing any of them interacting or escaping. He doesn't even say anything to Sam while we have a great "I still support the Accords I knew what I was getting into" moment with Rhodey. Cap and his supporting cast really did get cut short.
>>82541046
Maybe after attacking that base just for a staff they shouldn't have left a super science laboratory completely unattended for their killer robot to turn into a personal factory.
>>82541085
Yeah, I was thinking more when Tony visited him in the raft. I understand why the point was never touched on in an "in movie" sense, as none of the characters who would say it were in the right place at the right time, but it seems strange from a meta perspective that it was completely avoided.
>>82541083
>>82541136
I think the real reason is country doesn't appreciate foreigner messing about without their consent.
Collateral damage was just an excuse.
>>82541130
>despite being the best MCU villain so far
Do people actually think this?
He is a completely hollow, nothing character and his "master plan" relies 100% on circumstances he has absolutely no way of controlling.
>>82541195
Nigga you gay
>>82541169
I still think she's sexiest in IM2.
>>82541117
Ultron was born from the same micro managing bullshit Tony was supporting with the accords. Stark didn't learn a damn thing from AoU.
>>82541228
Nice meme criticisms
Try having an original thought sometime
>>82541132
We better get this in the MCU. The actors have such a great dynamic going.
>>82541257
>He disagrees with me
>But I'm so smart, and have all the best opinions
>He must be doing it specifically to antagonize me
Get over yourself
>>82541257
>meme criticisms
Either kill yourself or go back to /tv/.
Not him, btw.
>>82541256
>Ultron was born from the same micro managing bullshit Tony was supporting with the accords.
Can you explain your logic here because you sound fucking bananas.
>>82541191
Actually pretty embarrassing how much better Winter Soldier and Civil War are compared to Avengers 1 and 2.
>>82540714
I honestly hope this becomes a meme.
10/10 wingmen.
Wanda is best girl.
>>82540871
except for that time tony said he created ultron and it was his fault when he was talking about pepper leaving him.
>>82540990
>With the exception of the fight at the beginning of the movie
Not even. It seems Wanda can't contain the full explosion, just delay it.
If she hadn't done anything, it would've killed Steve and the very crowded surroundings (the fight took place in a street market).
14 people in a building was lucky.
Though if she had moved him towards empty air maybe none would've died.
>>82541283
>>82541284
Samefag
>>82541228
I agree but you're probably gonna get shit on.
>Nations of the World decide that they would like to have a say on the actions of the ragtag group of metahumans and pals who regularly go barreling into sovereign nations to disperse justice as they see fit, and leaving the local governments to clean up the billions in property damage and dozens-to-countless citizen casualties
>"NO TONI, U MOVE"
This movie made it hard to sympathize with Cap. Like, I could UNDERSTAND his motivations. I just couldn't sympathize with them.
>>82541285
Tony was like "HEY EVERYONE WHAT IF I MADE AN AI OUT OF THIS INFINITY STONE"
And everyone else was like "Tony that is such a bad idea don't do that"
But then Tony just did it anyway because he always has to be right about everythinh
>Tumblr having a fit over Cap and Sharon making out
>>82541299
Bitch made mother fucker
Good movie but the final fight between Tony and Steve felt unnecessary.
>YOU DON'T DESERVE THAT SHIELD! MY DAD MADE IT!
>>82541228
>his "master plan" relies 100% on circumstances he has absolutely no way of controlling
>>82540539
The UNs policy usually gravitated towards "strongly worded letter" or at worst "trade sanction". They can't deal with ongoing, nonsuperpowered genocide, how the hell could the UN handle fast developing situations like, robo-genocide and Hydra warcrime aircraft carriers
>>82540539
If it was just that sigining the accords made them have to answer to the UN while still operating independently it would be different ( in control in name only) . Instead the UN wanted a Superpowered strikeforce with red tape.
>>82540997
Yes, he does. It's mentioned in dialog in AoU.
The thing is that people will always die in these events, and no amount of money will compensate the families of those that do.
So we got Abed in the Winter Soldier and now Dean Pelton in Civil War. If they get Joel McHale to play as Starfox in Infinity Name-to-be-Decided I'm gonna flip the fuck out
>>82541285
Tony made Ultron because of his paranoia. The accords are a result of the world's paranoia. All things considered the Avengers were operating fine with the freedom they had.
>>82541323
>Chris Evans having a fit over Cap and Sharon making out
Any good recent Marvel books to jump into? Poe Dameron good?
>>82540714
My smile at this point was genuine. 10/10 positive feels.
>>82541332
>YOU DON'T DESERVE THAT SHIELD! MY DAD MADE IT!
That is exactly the sort of thing you'd expect a butthurt Tony Stark to say after he got his ass kicked by Captain America.
>Tony's side signs the deal
>Tony: I need eyes on x, x, and y.
>Ross: Fuck you Tony, you should be in jail!
>Tony: This deal gets worse all the time
So was the movie trying to tell us signing that deal was mostly bad? Cause that's what it seems like to me. Plus it may make things hard going into Infinity War
>>82541318
More:
Tony was like "HEY EVERYONE WHAT IF I MADE AN AI OUT OF THIS INFINITY STONE"
And then he didn't even bother to mention it to anyone else because he didn't have time for their opinions.
>>82540749
>most of the previous movies those governments have been shown to be thoroughly infiltrated by enemy organizations
So why the fuck should anyone in the Marvel universe trust the Avengers? What makes them so incorruptible?
What's to say that ten, twenty, thirty years down the line, their organization isn't just as corrupt and dangerous? You can say "Well, they'll deal with it then", but if they follow Cap's rules, they're setting up the precedent for the Avengers to be neigh untouchable.
>>82541315
What's not to get?
The "nations of the world" have their own agendas, they would say "no you can't go here, we're making you go here instead", they would never understand something like saving Bucky, etc.
>muh property damage
Is there a single instance where the damage wouldn't be much worse without the Avengers? If they hadn't stopped Crossbones and his team they would have a biological weapon.
>>82541332
Unneces- Nigga, there's a two and a half hour build up to them losing it and throwing down. It's like the emotional orgasm.
>>82541042
Tony himself is bringing it up.
>>82540714
That got the biggest laugh of anything in my theater. Every guy has had a bro moment like that.
>>82541356
Anything Star Wars written by Soule is great.
>>82540714
>tfw you realize Bucky waited 100 years to see his bro get to first base
I am really glad that in the absence of a lot of superhumans to make the SHRA make sense they rewrote the conflict to be much more personal in nature.
>>82540887
Hes just resting right guys? He'll be back.
>>82541346
No you fool, Joel McHale needs to reprise his greatest role
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOdFm38XHss
>>82541346
>Dean's plan is about hot dogs
>"We'll ketchup later"
>>82541369
Because the Avengers choose to risk their lives time and time again to save the world. The UN and other politicians sitting behind the safety of their desks talking about how they should have done it better.
Honestly, the world won't deserve the Secret Avengers saving their asses in Infinity Wars, and yet they're going to do it anyway for the 0 thanks they get in return.
>>82541323
>Hey, I know we just buried your aunt and the government is down my neck but let's fuck
>>82541111
>Bucky
>Peggy
>the Avengers, who are basically family
It seems we did not. Steve also went through a lot.
>>82541428
They probably both wanted to bang since they first met, c'mon
>>82540308
Ross: "Okay Stark you have 36 hours to apprehend the Winter Soldier"
Tony: *Takes a leisurely trip to New York to flirt with some milf and blackmail a teenager into fighting a dangerous criminal, then has to manufacture a suit for Spider-Man"
Gee, what a stellar plan, Tony.
>>82540714
Sam and Bucky had some great dynamics in the movie
Alright, lets take Tony out of the big picture here. No more bias.
Do you guys really think the Avengers should have free reign after the shit they've pulled and could possibly pull? You wouldn't want them answering to someone?
>>82541396
>Steve, just like we practiced.
>>82541362
Cap is right that most politicians are fucking idiots. Tony is right that they fuck up hard on a regular basis and they have to win the public back. There is no right answer, and because of fucking panther they couldn't compromise.
>>82541413
Sure
>>82541428
Considering it IS Steve, I wouldn't blame her
>>82541256
Winter Soldier basically represents the accords taken to their extreme where the government has absolute control over the individual, and Stark's response to that was still to put all the blame on the soldier because "Muh mom."
>>82541372
>Is there a single instance where the damage wouldn't be much worse without the Avengers?
>>82541323
why? They're cute as fuck
>>82541332
Like 20 minutes earlier:
>I've figured it out! Bucky has been brainwashed and framed. He's not technically responsible... I'm gonna help 'em!
20 minutes later:
>I've figured it out! Bucky was brainwashed, and was used as a tool to kill my parents. He's not technically responsible... I'm gonna kill 'em!
toni no
>>82541445
Take Tony out of the picture and what shit did the Avengers pull?
>>82541441
Sounds perfectly in character.
>>82541445
>not trusting Captain America completely
>>82541461
That's all on Tony, not the Avengers.
>>82541392
Literally the "Can you move your seat up" line was the first genuine laugh out of the crowd.
Most of the jokes in this movie fell flat.
>>82541450
Why's his hair so long?
>>82541445
I do want them answering to someone.
His name is Steve Rogers.
>>82541446
>"He said Bucky and suddenly, I was a 16 year old kid in Brooklyn again"
>>82541445
>Do you guys really think the Avengers should have free reign after the shit they've pulled and could possibly pull?
considering they reduced 8,200,000+ deaths that would have been caused by government entities down to like 300 between Avengers 1 and Winter Soldier, yeah, they should.Still think someone should kill Tony though. Seriously.
>>82541466
>people get more emotional and less logical when the death of their parents is involved
Shocker
>>82541476
Your crowd sounds gay.
>>82541466
Anon, humans are not always rational beings. Dude was pissed. And really, outside of Cap, who would give a fuck if Bucky died? Dude's probably got a bounty on his head in 30 countries.
>>82541477
Try this one
>>82541176
More are shown on the global map, just not brought up before Cap forces Ross to move on
>>82541477
It's his death rattle. He's shaking his head super fast
>>82541473
>That's all on Tony, not the Avengers.
Tony created the damn Avengers. And it still shows what one of them can do when they have unlimited power and are convinced they have the right idea.
It was Tony in Age of Ultron, but they all have the same sort of blank checks to do as they please.
>>82541315
Secretary Ross subtly amping up his power over the Avengers as time passed not to mention the fucking Raft illustrate what was wrong with oversight.
Granted, I agree with the criticism that the film doesn't do Cap's side proper justice, especially because it breezes over possibly the biggest problem. For all this talk of violation of sovereignty, a privately run Avengers is far, far more likely to respect sovereignty than one that can be used by the UN to attack any sovereign nation that the dominant powers within the UN decide aren't "sovereign nations."
Look what how great the concept of "sovereignty" protected Iraq and Libya.
>>82541413
Of course he's coming back Wanda, don't worry.
>>82541491
This.
Remember when the UN's plan to stop the Alien invasion was to LAUNCH A NUCLEAR WARHEAD AT MANHATTAN?
And you want those fucking idiots in charge of the Avengers?
>>82541372
And the avengers have their own agendas also.
Who watches the watchmen?
The UN is at least comprised of actual people who have jurisdiction and know more than the avengers on what the best thing for their countries is.
YOU DON'T DESERVE THAT SHIELD!
MY FATHER MADE IT!!!
>>82541458
Exactly, the Winter Soldier and the 5 frozen soldiers are a perfect example of the weapons that these heroes become in the wrong hands. Bucky is the ultimate controlled individual and he's more dangerous for it because he has no choice, not more safe or "accountable".
>>82541482
IF TONY HAD ACTUALLY DONE AS STEVE TOLD HIM IN AGE OF ULTRON, NONE OF THIS BULLSHIT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
>>82541461
That was Tony's fault initially. If the Avengers didn't get involved, the alternative would be "Global extinction"
>>82541445
I think that the context matters because consider that the originally had SHIELD oversight. Shield and the World Security Council. But whoops! Turns out SHIELD wasn't just corrupt, it was double nazi corrupt! And the World Security Council thought "Hey let's nuke Manhattan. No big deal, right?" so they don't exactly have a lot of ground to stand on when it comes to talking about collateral damage.
Then literally in this movie a single guy is able to infiltrate the UN's big task force with what? Glasses and makeup?
Oversight would be a great idea in theory but the overwatchers so far are have been established as either evil, or incompetent. Even in the absolute best case scenario they'd be obtrusive bureaucrats and that's not much better when the clock to armageddeon is ticking.
Do I want the Avengers answering to someone? Yeah. But who deserves the right to be the one they answer to? Nobody yet.
>>82541166
Whatever you say, brah.
I like the kiss nontheless. Its akward and forced, yes. That's the point. It's just Steve taking a chance that both he and Sharon will go nowhere with the path he is about to take.
I felt sad after it happened.
>>82541445
Hell yes. Those government fucks let SHIELD do what they want on top of that, Hydra was a sleeper cell for decades.
>>82541537
The entire thing is just a way for Tony to try and dispose of his guilt because he's too much of a fucking coward to live with his mistakes.
