Ben Affleck will be wearing another hat during his time on the "Justice League" set. In addition to donning the Batman cowl once again for the 2017 team-up movie, Deadline has learned that Affleck has been named as another executive producer on the film.
Affleck will join the film's braintrust, which includes director Zack Snyder and screenwriter Chris Terrio. Affleck previously worked with Terrio on the Academy Award-winning film "Argo." Deadline adds that Affleck made the jump to EP in order to support Snyder, "with whom he worked well on 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice."
The move further increases Affleck's involvement in Warner Bros.' expanding DC cinematic universe.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/justice-league-adds-ben-affleck-as-executive-producer
>>82527654
Affleck trying his best to cancel out Snyder.
Cool. Especially after reading that long but surprisingly well-written Buzzfeed article about Affleck, I feel like a big part of his pains in the beginning of his career has been about control. BvS was very much out of his control, but he's not giving up yet.
>>82527750
And later people say Damian isn't towel head.
>>82527707
more like getting him under control, which is what he needs.
>>82527750
In all seriousness though, thats fucking awesome. Batfleck has proven his meddle in other films
>>82527654
Just make him the director.
MAKE HIM THE FUCKING DIRECTOR.
God damn please just get rid of Snyder.
>>82527777
>digits
Also, I liked BvS. But at the same time I do think Affleck would do a better job with Snyder producing. Snyder understands the gravitas of these characters, while Affleck can bring the story and dialogue.
Seriously, reverse these roles and the film with be solid gold.
>>82527654
What happened to George Miller?
>>82527972
You can have multiple Exec Producers
>>82527972
The 90s happened
>>the year is 2019
>>consistently terrible reviews have caught up with WB's DCCU leading to a near bomb with Justice league
>>desperate to turn things around they sign Joss Whedon to direct Justice League 2, granting him unprecedented creative control
>>the entire second act is 45 minutes of the League sitting around a campfire talking about highschool
>>82528065
>>>the entire second act is 45 minutes of the League sitting around a campfire talking about highschool
if it were cut down to 20 minutes, this would be GOAT
>>82527654
>Ben "the only reason i pretend like i'm into comic books is because kevin smith sometimes gives me employment" Affleck
This can't go wrong.
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING! I'M IN CHARGE HERE!
>>82528118
DO YOU FEEL ..IN CHARGE?
>>82527654
I knew this would happen since that photo of them at the launch party where Affleck was hovering his hand over Snyder's head
You thought it was a joke
What you didn't realize is that Affleck is the Titan coming to punish Snyder for his flight
>>82527654
Save us, Batfleck!
>>82527804
this this this
>>82528118
>>82528065
That would be good though
>>82527654
Why don't Cavill and Affleck just beat up Snyder? Snyder is like 5'5
>Batman is the producer of Justice League
POETRY
>>82527804
I doubt he wants all that pressure
>>82528272
He also lifts. A lot. But so do the other 2 so you may have a point.
>>82527654
Batman v. Snyder: Dawn of Good Movies
>>82528274
>yfw Batman literally gains control of the DC universe
>>82527654
>your face when
>a Batman so powerful he literally warps his own fiction when he doesn't like it
BATGOD
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>>82527654
Its just a way to pay him more money
He probably said he was going to back out after all the negative press BVS got
>>82528107
>Ben Affleck isn't into comics
>Guy who made Daredevil
>Guy who put a Batcave in his house
>Guy who reigned in Snyder enough that his scenes are the only thing in the 3 hour fuckfest that didn't suck
Dude won an Oscar, you think he still goes to Kevin Smith for work?
>>82528274
>>82528336
Has Batman gained too much power?
Or not enough?
>>82528107
>"Yo, Kev what'a your take on Batman?"
>"What's your plans for JL?"
>"I'm EP. I'll save you another spot, bro, as special EP."
>"Alright, thanks man. Would Synder mind?"
>"Why'd you think I became EP? To keep him under control, come by the studio, we'll talk about your inclusion as special EP, keep it a secret from the press."
Wouldn't surprise me if Kevin actually found a way into the next installment thanks to Ben.
>>82528412
>you think he still goes to Kevin Smith for work?
Maybe.
Yet as thanks for everything Kevin did, Ben'll make Kevin have a special spot in JL somehow.
Get ready for after credits,
>Special thanks to Kevin Smith
It won't change anything. As long as Snyder is still directing, everything will still be wrong at a fundamental level. We thought Terrio would improve things but BvS turned out to be actually worse than MoS (and even I enjoyed that film even though it's deeply flawed)
>>82528514
Personally I thought BvS improved upon MoS so I don't know what's going to happen to this movie.
>>82528514
You don't understan- this is how it starts
First he's "just" Batman
Then he's Batman and directing his own Batman movie
Now he's Batman, directing his own Batman movie, and Exec Producing JL
Soon Snyder will feel his wrath
>>82527654
How embarrassing must it feel to be the well-known fuck-up in the team, the guy no one wants, but they can't get rid off. Everyone's blaming him.. looking down on him, and now slowly pushing him aside. I feel bad for him. I actually defended him for a long time, but recently I read a bunch of his interviews and realized how incompetent hands is the DCU in. Jesus.
Hopefully Ben will save the day. But is he a writer, though?
>>82528107
>Pretend i'm into comic books.
So like most of /co/ then?
Based Affleck killing DC from the inside
>>82527804
I could see the both of them co-directing, keeping Snyder mostly on the visuals and Affleck taking over the rest
>>82528618
First he starts by defeating Zack and his wife Deborah. But he won't stop there. He will become the Batman, as well as Bruce Wayne. He will take over all of Warner Brothers and rename it to Wayne Enterprises.
>>82528690
That would be best.
>>82528107
Affleck is a massive Batfag and has been forever. He only took the DD part because at the time he thought it was the closest he'd get to being Batman,
>>82527654
It's based Affleck/based Terrio all over again.
Fool me once...
>>82527654
Regardless of the movie(s) quality, which I honestly couldn't give a fuck about anymore, the BTS footage of Ben Affleck dressed as Batman hopping front and back the camera to check the shot and directing people around with the mask should be entertaining.
Also, he'll have to both prep the movie AND have the insane workout regimen of a superhero.
Not to mention arriving on set extra early to makeup/suit up and then start doing the rounds as the director and shit.
Dude's really good, but he's way in over his head.
>>82528812
>Dude's really good, but he's way in over his head.
You mean like
Batman?
:^)
>>82528848
>Affleck decides the only way to really beat the Joker ideologically will be to destroy him in every corner of reality
He's now trying to out method act Jared Leto
>>82528848
>yfw Affleck is beginning his transition towards Batman
How long until he randomly goes into Leto's house to kick his ass in costume?
>>82528812
Not to mention praying 5 times a day and fucking the nanny.
>>82528848
Yeah. Except he's not Batman. He's Ben. Nobody could withstand a Batman regimen.
>>82527779
Which? I'm wondering what people use to back that he's a directing talent.
>>82528118
>>82528153
Thank you anons
>>82528944
Every film he's directed has been great
Especially Argo
>>82527654
Affleck's trying so hard. I'm torn between feeling grateful and feeling sorry for him.
Anybody got that Snyder Denial Flowchart?
>>82528272
Why you ask? Let me tell you.
>Affleck and Cavill approach Snyder with fire in their eyes, each with one hand punching into the other. Snyder knows if he doesn't come up with a way to stop them , he is doomed.
>Snyder tries to turn and run, but Affleck grabs him by the back of his collar, spins him around before turning around himself and shoving him to Cavill.
>Cavill catches Snyder and holds his arms behind his back.
>Just as Affleck is pulling back a punch that'd ring Snyder's bell for days, dear Snyder finally realizes what he must do.
>PUSH UP CONTEST BROS! YOU AND ME!
>Snyders manlet build enables his victory which helps him escape while Affleck and Cavill are forced to nurse their exhausted arms
>Expect Delays
Producers butting heads with directors. Benny over in the corner in his suit rewriting his script.
Gonna be like brining matches and gasoline to a tire fire.
>>82528512
>Ben'll make Kevin have a special spot in JL somehow
As Grodd?
>>82528344
I get this reference. Debbie should be Bialistock and Zack should be Bloom though.
>>82528634
No, but Zack is cowriting.
>>82529197
So BvS part 2 with Batmans bits only being salvaged somewhat because of Affleck rewriting.
>>82528272
Snyder's mom is Martha.
>>82529765
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?
>>82527654
>batman literally in control over the whole DCEU
its JL/JLU all over again.
>>82527707
>We know Ben rewrote parts of Batman v Superman
>Batman almost universally agreed to be the best part of BvS
Hopefully he can be the Spielberg to Snyder's Lucas.
Just give him all the damn keys
>>82527654
he is just replacing Nolan who doesn't give a shit about anything comic-related.
>>82527654
>Zack is at his desk, typing away gleefully
>Suddenly the power goes out
>A batarang pins him to the wall by his shirt
>Affleck jumps down from the ceiling, dressed as Batman
>'You're working for me now.'
>>82527654
Affleck may be Batman on film, but I'm not buying his ruse. I know who he really is.
>>82527654
>What do Executive Producers do?
>The role of the Executive Producer is to oversee the work of the producer on behalf of the studio, the financiers or the distributors. They will ensure the film is completed on time, within budget, and to agreed artistic and technical standards. An Executive Producer may be a producer who has raised a significant proportion of a film's finance, or who has secured the underlying rights to the project. In major productions, the Executive Producer may be a representative or CEO of the film studio. In smaller companies or independent projects they may be the creator or writer.Typically, Executive Producers are not involved in the technical aspects of the filmmaking process, but have played a crucial financial or creative role in ensuring that the project goes into production. There may be several Executive Producers on a film who may take the lead role in a number of areas, such as development, financing or production.
>Executive Producers must be excellent negotiators. They need a keen business sense, and an intimate knowledge of all aspects of film production, financing, marketing and distribution.
Guys, he's not writing it, he's not changing it, he's just on board for another paycheck, and if it wins awards - best picture - the producers pick those up. Like he did for Argo, jointly with two other guys; but that's because the awards can't be given to everybody who worked on the production, which is who "Best Picture" actually represents.
He may be putting up some money, but that will essentially be toward future projects, after this, after all those already moving forward. 5 pictures from now.
If he's there for any other reason than the studio wanting to give him a PINO credit to pay him a little extra and keep him sweet - which is a real possibility given how badly they're fucking his career right now - then it's because they had huge budget overruns last time and want someone who's worked on no-budget movies.
>>82527804
They should've cleaned house after BvS's reception. Get a new director and do a soft reboot with JL part one. I don't understand how the WB is so fucking incompetent.
>>82528690
I'm sure he'll be angling for some second unit crap to do but there is absolutely no chance of him being made director or "co-director".
>>82528733
At the time he said he was a huge DDfag. Look how that turned out.
>>82530460
They've already got two other movies actually filmed under the same creative team, with another three ready to go (including this one).
Literally stopping dead and saying "fuck it" would be incompetent. You can't start over; you lose face, the public will just laugh at your shitty reboot attempt as soon as the announcement goes out.
For better or worse, this is what they've got. They're hoping the next few movies will work out and start paying up, but if they don't, don't expect any more.
>>82530460
>They should've cleaned house after BvS's reception.
Fuck that. BvS was good. It could have used some polish at a few points, but overall it was a solid movie. DC/WB should stick to their guns.
>>82530743
>It could have used some polish
Maybe if some polish is a complete rewrite, removal of any creative authority from Snyder and a delay of another year.
>>82530786
It had Terrio making a shit soup out of Goyer's stool samples. It was never good to begin with.
>>82530786
No. Snyder did a good job with MoS and BvS.
>>82530833
See, you say that, but I've also hear people say the complete opposite, and admittedly, while I am not one to defend Goyer, his alleged original script, which I saw discussed here a few weeks back was flawed, but miles better than what we got.
>>82528944
Gone baby gone is really good.
>>82530863
>>82530786
>removal of any creative authority from Snyder
This is literally all they had to do. They can keep the cast, they can keep the writer. Just please get this fuck away from the movies.
>>82530460
HUH
>>82530948
I know it's not cool or whatever to like MoS and BvS, but I think they're the best superhero movies ever made. The criticism of the two, and Snyder, are so exaggerated that they're almost self-parody at this point. Those movies are nowhere near as bad as anyone claims.
>>82531181
>they're almost self-parody at this point
Just like the movies.
>>82530863
Snyder did a far better job with MoS than BvS.
BvS felt incredibly disjointed by comparison.
>>82531353
I agree with that somewhat. I don't think it was incredibly disjointed. I do think BvS could have used some smoothing, but overall I don't think it was bad.
>>82531181
For the first time last week I watched MoS in it's entirety. It did indeed improve my opinion of the movie.
I give it a 2.5 out 5 stars.
It's not that bad. It's not great either. It's barely okay.
but how will kapecino be saved if Snyder isn't allowed full and total control of how much Batman is raped in prison?
>>82530891
Bottom line, they both made shit.
>>82531181
It is literally just memes. MoS was a good movie and BvS was the greatest.
>>82531353
Some of that has to do with BvS being a springboard for the Justice League films. The other half is Snyder not understanding the criticism leveled at MoS.
>>82531500
With this announcement, Batman will rape him instead, anon.
>>82530217
You know it might actually work.
>>82530454
>Guys, he's not writing it, he's not changing it, he's just on board for another paycheck, and if it wins awards - best picture - the producers pick those up.
The more important part that probably isn't being mentioned because it's loaded into a contract, is that Executive producers often have final cut.
Depending on the contract, they can sometimes overrule directors, or outright fire them.
>>82530891
What about Goyers script was better?
I haven't seen it
>>82528419
>>82528618
>next thing Affleck is fucking Deborah Snyder
>on set
>while maintaining eye contact with Zack
>finishes
>.....tell that to Zod's snapped neck
>>82531353
>BvS felt incredibly disjointed by comparison.
And Man of Steel didn't? Did you forget Lois Lane's teleportation powers?
>>82527750
How did this meme start?
>>82530460
>There are only 2 movies in DCEU while Marvel has 13 in the span of 8 years
>DC NEEDS TO REBOOOT NOWWW!!!!!! WHY ARE TEY SO INCOMEPETENT!!!!
>>82534961
Affleck defended Islam against Bill Maher, when Bill Maher was being his usual self in blaming Religion for everything.
>>82527750
>>82534961
>>82535080
>Famous straight white male with everything to lose by refusing to be Bill Maher's good little goy over the Gaza conflict.
>"lol terrorist!"
No /tv/, you're the cucks.
Snyder had Nolan executive producing BvS & look what we got? Snyder's ego won't allow him to listen to others, especially those with more experience. If he didn't listen to Nolan, tho honestly, I think Nolan just gave up & didn't give a shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHz4sa0P6LA&feature=youtu.be
>>82532130
They tried to copy Marvel without realizing that the thing that made Marvel successful was making like 5 solo movies before they even touched an Avengers movie.
WB just did everything out of order. Should have been a Batman movie, Man of Steel, and the Wonder Woman movie, maybe even the Flash movie, before BvS came out. It would have given them time to really figure out what they were doing before blowing their load on the team thing.
>>82535536
But then everyone would give DC shit for copying Marvel
>>82535568
Everyone's already giving them shit for copying Marvel. At the very least they could have done it well.
>>82535536
They had JL, JLU and the numerous animated movies without solo series for either of them.
>>82534961
He got angry at Sam Harris and Maher for criticizing Islam on Maher's show he also said that ISIS was a fringe minority.
>>82535536
>realizing that the thing that made Marvel successful was making like 5 solo movies
The thing that made Marvel click was getting into the Funvee, and not the fucking Humdrumvee. The DCCU, such as it is, is nothing but protracted wangst and clenched jaws.
Civil War has punch and gravitas specifically BECAUSE we've got to know these guys in fun times when it was light-hearted adventure and comraderie.
Marvel movies are easy to enjoy. DC movies require a week of writing headcanon to cover for shitty writing.
>>82535536
you don't need solo movies to get people invested in batman and supes. they already are
the difference is the quips and friendly banter
>>82535676
Exactly, no one needs origin stories for the fucking Superfriends.
People have known who these people are for decades.
Yet I guarantee we are going to see Bruce's parents shot at least a couple more times in the next several years.
All Snyder and Goyer have accomplished is making these fun mythical figures into depressing shit.
>>82535734
>the difference is the quips and friendly banter
The difference is actual Characterization, and making them Likeable.
>>82535825
>characterisation
There is, you just don't like the characters
>likeable
subjective
Bruce and Clark aren't living, breathing characters at this point, they are just emotionally crippled trauma cases.
Snyder is turning the Justice League into the heroes of the Watchmen.
>>82535880
I like the characters of Superman and Batman just fine. I don't like the parallel Snyderverse where Doctor Manhattan and Rorschach dress up like Superman and Batman.
>>82535948
I don't like them either, but that doesn't mean there isn't any characterisation
>>82535989
Batman has forever been a clench-jawed cauldron of crime-hate who occasionally pretends to be a billionaire with a social life. His driving purpose is "Punchemallinnaface" with almost no nuance whatsover, except for when George Clooney played Bruce as "what if George Clooney were Batman".
He is such a ridiculously black-and-white one-dimensional character that Goyer can't write him without having him contradict his own moral code for story purposes.
Snyderman is a complete nothing. It's a lightweight pretty-boy actor giving a Zoolander-tier performance while standing around in an overwrought costume. The role is nothing but a series of poses and CGI action cuts.
When Goyer tried to give him "motivations" in Man of Steel it was a complete clusterfuck of contradictions, "I can't use my powers cuz my Dad, except for all those times I'm using my powers".
>>82535804
They only know Batman and sort of Superman.
>>82535347
>affleck getting mad and not making arguments
Come on /co/ck suckers. Nobody likes the kikes but affleck instead of refuting the arguments got all upset and angry
>>82531959
Sure if you love shitty editing and we need sequels: the movie
>>82528336
>My sources have told me that Affleck was incredibly unhappy about the reception of BvS. He felt humiliated after spending so much of the press tour saying how much better this film would be than Daredevil. On top of that his agent was furious when Kevin Tsujihara jumped the gun and announced him as the director of The Batman - there were still negotiations happening.
>This move seems to help placate Affleck while also edging Zack Snyder out of a controlling central position in the DC Movieverse.
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/05/06/ben-affleck-is-now-executive-producer-of-justice-league
>>82539506
>He felt humiliated after spending so much of the press tour saying how much better this film would be than Daredevil.
>This move seems to help placate Affleck while also edging Zack Snyder out of a controlling central position in the DC Movieverse.
kek these are literally /tv/ leak tier """""rumors"""""
>>82539506
yeah because we all trusted you to not FUCK THIS UP Affleck.
>>82539506
>Faraci
Fuck your mother
>>82538664
>implying Maher has the intelligence to debate a cactus, let alone a functioning human being
I mean, can you really claim to be such a Batman fan and then willingly act in multiple scenes as Batman shooting a gun and killing people? Like sure, contracts and money and shit, but grow some balls and refuse to shoot a scene like that. Whatever. Maybe I'm romanticizing the concept of character fandom too much. Nothing matters. Even heroes die.
>>82540098
Shut the fuck up, faggot. God damn.
>>82540177
>stop supporting the preservation of a classic character's core ethics
Batman is not an antihero. Stop trying to make him one.
Will Starro be the main villain?
>Batman breaking the 4th wall to literally save the universe
Morrison would love this. Oh wait thats not Superman
>>82540532
If people only like Batman it will be Starro taking over the rest of the League and Batman using his contingency plans to stop them. If we're lucky, it will be more like the episode of Batman: Brave and the Bold though.
>>82540379
Let's make Robin Hood a serial rapist (of the rich, of course), or maybe Zorro a prancing sodomite.
>>82528607
No fucking way, it took all the flaws of MoS and made them even worse.
>>82540177
Grow some balls.
>>82541666
There are novels and shows with evil or antihero Robin Hood.
Nobody bitches about it because he's public domain.
>>82534961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60
>>82541666
>prancing sodomite.
Apparenty they already did
>>82531027
WOW
>>82540098
Because it's possible to know who Pre-Crisis/Crisis/Prime/Nu52 Batman is and how he works, and realize that the cinematic Batman interpretations are Elseworlds where Batman has always been more open to manslaughter and self-defense killing.
From BurtonBats, to "I don't have to save you" NolanBats, to Batfleck we have seen this.
There is nothing special about Batfleck aside from the fact he has more justification for how he is - 20 years of being Batman and losing practically everything he cares about, and still having to save cages full of intended-sex-workers while the cops still shoot at him for doing their jobs better than they do. He has lost a Robin, or worse. Gordon is either dead or retired.
He is middle aged, and bitter. AND at the end he vows to be better, and so may very well return to being the Batman you love in Justice League, as suggested by how he was only trying to get info from Luthor and didn't brand him.
>>82530482
>At the time he said he was a huge DDfag. Look how that turned out.
I'm not following. Are you saying he wrote and directed DD?
>>82533479
>>next thing Affleck is fucking Deborah Snyder
>>on set
>>while maintaining eye contact with Zack
yfw Batfleck became Femto
>>82536146
Batfleck is the best Batman comitted to the Bigscreen. Closer than ever to the comics than the throat cancer sounding tacticool faggot who quit crime fighting because his childhood crush is kill. Oh man that sounds so much like Batman...
>>82527654
Jesus fucking christ, you can tell WB are scared shitless.
I hope they fix the costume for future films. Surely Affleck of all people must realize that the cowl does NOT fucking suit the shape of his head/face at all. They need to remake that shit from the ground up, tailor-make it specifically for Affleck's head. The cowl used for BvS looks like it wasn't really made for Affleck at all. It looked terrible.
>>82535029
Sony did it with TASM.
>>82539506
I hated BvS but I feel really bad for Affleck.
Even if it means that the DCEU will become Batman Extended Universe, I hope his Batman solo does good.
>>82527654
Assuming Affleck was the one responsible for the decent Batman parts, lets hope the negotiations for writing the story involves him smacking Snyder upside his head until he stops writing everything like it's a bad 90's comic while Terrio cries in the corner.
>>82544864
Not seeing the problem here other than the ears could be longer
>>82533575
Lois Lane is part of the Flash family
>>82545049
It makes his cheeks puff out and looks very silly on him.
The best thing about the Nolan Batsuits was that the cowls were very clearly sculpted specifically for Bale's face. It fit him perfectly. There was not a single part of it that seemed too loose or too tight. In as far as it was a costume made specifically for Bale to wear, it was absolutely perfect in every way.
>>82545113
>it makes his cheeks puff out
this!
same thing happened with the Daredevil costume. he looked like a chipmunk.
>>82545192
>>82545113
Basically, they need to sculpt a new mask and have it bend around his face. The mask needs to be shaped specifically to accommodate all of Affleck's face. It's what they did for Bale and it's what they should do for Affleck.
I mean, it's kind of basic, isn't it? Aren't all costumes supposed to be designed specifically for the actor anyway? Why don't they go the extra mile for the cowl?
>>82545220
They're supposedly easier than ever to make, don't have to plaster mold and shit, it's laser scanned for digital and they can compensate for whatever I imagine with a virtual model. And yet he still looks like Fatman as Batman.
>>82544504
burton bat openly murders, just like batfleck, the difference is that an entire generation was raised on TAS' non killing bat after the burton film came out.
Even NolanBat went through a weird development where he actively saved the joker from falling.
>>82545241
I think part of the issue is the material. It's soft rubber. Which I guess was deliberate, but when the material is basically plastic like in previous suits, it's easier to make something that's perfectly molded for a particular actor's face. The mask is rigid so there's less room for misshape.
Maybe they should go back to that. Though a rigid plastic mask might end up clashing hard with the suit.
>>82545281
Burton's was still campy and rather too silly to take particularly seriously I think.
I think if they just fixed the costume up so it looked less silly on Affleck and also had him kill less, I'd be okay with this Batman overall.
Superman's unsalvagable, I think. He's basically the anthropomorphic personification of an ideal. He's not a proper character. In the course of a single movie, Bruce Wayne had more meaningful interactions with a variety of different people than Clark had in two.
>>82545547
>Superman's unsalvagable, I think. He's basically the anthropomorphic personification of an ideal. He's not a proper character
lol
casual
>>82527972
what does filthy frank have to do with this
>Snyder still on board
>add in Affleck's ego
Another critical dud incoming
