Just read this and is this the single best Wonder Woman story ever told?
>>82524004
Of course it is, look who's writer.
probably, then again it has no real competition
>>82524004
Yes, because it's not a stacked bench. But it is amazing, even if WW had a better history it'd have a shot at being the best.
Morrison 4 Lyfe
You know, it's funny.
I have dwelled on Wonder Woman, the contradictions that have sprung up within the character, and female action heroes in general for years now and I think a little while ago, it occurred to me that the purest female superhero story would have as little violence in it as possible. Women don't care for violent conflict the same way that men do. So I always thought that the perfect Wonder Woman story would be one where she finds some way to end a conflict non-violently. And that is exactly what Morrison does here. He wrote what I'd always wanted to see and in the process, probably wrote the best version of Wonder Woman to ever be written, drawn, inked upon to hit the pages of sequential art.
This is the single most feminist comic book or at least superhero comic book to ever be written. This book actually tackled feminist issues and themes in such a mature, graceful, intelligent manner. The funny thing is, I can just imagine people looking at the subject matter, the perfect feminist paradise society of hot, sexy women, and rolling their eyes, it being such a seemingly groan-inducing concept to explore, yet Grant Morrison just makes it work, like he always does.
It's also easily the best depiction of Paradise Island ever. It's what I've always wanted to see, a take that actually incorporated and embraced the more fun and crazy comic book sci-fi Golden and Silver-Age concepts from the character's past. There's such a childlike wonder there, and the way Amazonian technology progresses, being influenced by the female consciousness, is absolutely brilliant. It was great seeing the kangas again finally. The vagina planes were cool. The Purple Ray, man.
I was so enamored by this, I really want to check out some books on gender studies and feminist literature. I'm genuinely curious about the subject, even more so than before.
>>82524004
Not really
The warmth that radiates from this book is astonishing. Morrison truly knows how to imbibe his stories with energy that you can feel.
>>82524004
For cuckolds maybe.
kill yourself
Is this the sexier representation of Diana yet?
The only thing I thought was a little dumb was that Hippolyta's magic TV was the reason Steve found Paradise Island. Otherwise great story with great characters. A near-perfect WW origin.
>>82526459
I think I'm alone in this, but Diana really resembled Sasha Grey in the art. I kept on wondering if that was intentional, if the artist (who fucking killed in here btw), based his Wondy on that pornstar.
Otherwise, she's definitely sexy. Basically almost at every opportunity, she's drawn to be ridiculously sexy, to the point where it's actually a little ridiculous. She always seems to be posing in a sexy manner, she always has a sexy look on her face. Same with the rest of the Amazons. Not that I minded, but it was something that I definitely noticed and since the women in Man's World aren't so sexualized, it struck me as a bit of a strange creative choice. They're literally pretty much ALWAYS like that, it's crazy.
>>82524004
Just read it myself, as someone that knows near to 0 about Wonder Woman this was a pretty cool origins book. Will it be continued? Feels like it
>>82526668
Sasha is actually qt af so I'm OK with this.
>>82526668
Judging from something i've read about it, can't remember where, i'm pretty sure Morrison cared to translate how WW origins (as a character irl) were always tied to sexiness and fetishism
But i liked how it can make sense in the story, in a perfect world of female harmony the line between sexy and vulgar would be pretty blurred, wouldn't it?
>>82526757
>Will it be continued? Feels like it
Apparently it's gonna be a trilogy so expect part two around 2025
>>82526757
Yeah it will have 3 parts as with almost all other Earth One graphic novels
>>82524004
Yeah.
>>82526783
Sasha Grey's a qt, if also a turboslut.Not that there's anything wrong with that.>inb4 someone has a problem with my usage of the word "turboslut"
>>82526816
Oh I understand, it's just that the extent to which the Amazons were portrayed as essentially flawlessly sexy people was a little ridiculous. They're all perfect examples of feminine beauty in every panel, practically oozing sex in some of them even when it didn't really fit the scene, though again it wasn't really something that was a big enough deal to bother me and I did see why they went in that direction.
>>82526816
Sexy and vulgar wouldn't be associated at all. Such a thing is a product of society's desire to stigmatize female sexuality in an attempt to monopolize breeding rights. A matriarchy has no need for that kind of psychology.
>>82526668
>I think I'm alone in this
No you're not
It has nothing on Marston's run.
>>82524004
No.
It's pretty good, but nah, it's not the best WW story ever written.
>>82527262
Enlighten us, then
Was the TCJ review right?
>>82526860
>tfw they completely wasted the potential of Superman: Earth One
For fuck's sakes.
>>82527233
I've pointed this out before but no one seemed to agree with me.
>>82527317
Marston and Azz both wrote great runs.
This is a good story, but I don't really think it's the greatest piece of WW fiction ever. It was probably on par, as a relatively short story, with Hiketeia.
>>82524232
>I think a little while ago, it occurred to me that the purest female superhero story would have as little violence in it as possible. Women don't care for violent conflict the same way that men do. So I always thought that the perfect Wonder Woman story would be one where she finds some way to end a conflict non-violently.
Funny thing is, that's the entire originating concept of Wonder Woman. Marston's whole concept was a superhero who "would triumph not with fists or firepower, but with love".
Which only makes the recent HURRDURR SWORD AND SHIELD MOST VIOLENT LEAGUER Wondy more tragic.
The "perfect Wonder Woman" I have in my head knows how to fight, but far more importantly, she knows WHEN to fight.I haven't read WW:E1 yet. Does it sound fitting for me?
>>82527667
>Which only makes the recent HURRDURR SWORD AND SHIELD MOST VIOLENT LEAGUER Wondy more tragic.
I really dislike it when Wondy is super willing to kill, like all the time and goes around snapping peoples' necks left and right. I don't like it when she's constantly angry either. She should be even more compassionate and even less willing to kill than even Superman.
>I haven't read WW:E1 yet. Does it sound fitting for me?
Pretty much. Read that shit.
>>82527667
While E1 wondy is not another violent WW interpretation that misses the point of her character, she is also not a very reasonable one. The story is mostly just her rebelling against mommy and experiencing extremely bizarre culture shock. It's trippy to read at least.
>>82527773
Absolutely. Back in... I think it was the first arc of New 52 Justice League? When she saw the Parademon and was all "hot damn something I can kill?" That was when I dropped New 52 Wondy.
>>82527781
Sounds fair enough for an origin, though. Like... this sounds like someone who could grow into the Diana I love, not the complete polar opposite.
>>82527781
>While E1 wondy is not another violent WW interpretation that misses the point of her character, she is also not a very reasonable one.
She's far more reasonable than the society she's a product of.
>The story is mostly just her rebelling against mommy and experiencing extremely bizarre culture shock.
So every WW story ever?
>>82527667
>Which only makes the recent HURRDURR SWORD AND SHIELD MOST VIOLENT LEAGUER Wondy more tragic.
I'm the guy that knew 0 about WW, i have to say i usually like when she's portrayed like that (in Kingdom Come or TDKSA, for example) because it made her stand out from the rest of the League and really sold me the idea of a warrior woman that spent most of her life stuck of an island of warrior women
I was told before that a lot of WW fans didn't like such depictions, but only now that i've read this i really understand why, it does weaken her character is she is just another Amazon
>>82527859
>So every WW story ever?
Spoken like a man who has never read WW
>>82527660
>Marston and Azz both wrote great runs.
The Azz run is a good story but I won't say it's a good Wonder Woman story. I don't think he built upon her character enough. Most of the side characters were more interesting than she was, which is a shame.
>>82527773
Forgot my image.
>>82527835
Wasn't that written by Geoff Johns? Yeah, he doesn't really get the character, though I hear he's gotten better with her.
>>82527891
*every WW origin story ever.
My bad.
>>82527520
>I've pointed this out before but no one seemed to agree with me.
I'm guessing you weren't here for the first thread.
>>82527946
You mean back when it hit? Like an idiot, I decided to hold off on reading it for whatever reason up until now. I pointed that shit out before it came out and unless Anons were being a bunch of cheeky sarcastic bastards to me, no one agreed with me.
>>82527980
They were probably being cheeky sarcastic bastards
>>82527980
>unless Anons were being a bunch of cheeky sarcastic bastards
Probably,another anon pointed out the similarity and a few anons and I concurred.
All things considered,its a nice touch,even if unintentional.
>>82527903
The first few JL stories are widely believed to have been ghostwritten by Jim Lee. Considering the change in quality and characterization by the time we get to Throne of Atlantis, I'm inclined to believe it.
>>82527902
Azz wrote her as a Stoic. She's the rock to which all the other characters anchor themselves.
>>82527835
The first arc of JL occurred soon after Wondy came to Man's World, it's literally the exact same scenario of rebelling against mommy and experiencing culture shock. Keep in mind WW was canonically 18 during JL issue one.
>>82527903
Pretty old version
>>82527382
After reading it, nah I don't think so. While I think it makes some points, I didn't think the Amazons were necessarily the "bad guys." Definitely in an antagonistic role and certainly misandrist, but there WERE no true bad guys.
>>82528362
>31 images taken across 60 years of comics
>one-third of them from Elseworlds and non-canon stories
>one of them is her giving a hug
I'm pretty sure at this point every single GL has a higher body count than WW.
>>82528674
Probably, but how many target necks?
>>82526668
She also looks like Megan Fox
>>82526783
she is cute indeed, sad she had to do porn for living
>>82527062
>turboslut
I9 don't know anon. I don't believe at all. Do you have any proof of this? like anal or oral proofs? I know it will be baleeted if you post these proofs here but I atill need to see proofs anon. Please.
>>82526668
Looks like she is enjoying it.
>>82528884
>Implying you wouldn't do porn for a living
>>82528884
>implying she doesn't enjoy it
She gets paid to have sex all day
>>82528931
>>82528934
I am a moralfag, alright? I have no place in 4chan at all but /co/ it's one of the few good places to talk about comics.
>>82528934
>implying she doesn't enjoy it
proofs anon, proofs
>>82528934
Unless you're a popular star, it's not a particularly great job. Kinda like making comics.
>>82526668
Who's the artist?
>>82529055
It saddens me to think porn is not a great job. What sad world have we built were fucking for a living isn't the best thing ever?
>>82529055
>Unless you're a popular porn star, it's not a particularly great job. Kinda like making comics.
The only difference is that at leats the first one have sex.
>>82529057
Yanick Paquette
I recognize his art from Seven Soldiers: Bulleteer. Fantastic artist.
This is probably the sexiest Wondy has ever been barring Lynda Carter.
>>82529126
Which will probably lead to STDs eventually. Not to mention the possibility of HIV/AIDs.
Not gonna lie though, if I were attractive enough, I'd try to go into porn.
>>82529127
Man, she is fucking cute, like sasha gray cute. She is the type of cute you want to be around in bed all day and then have anal sex with her.
>>82529160
You do realize you won't be fucking cuties like sasha until some long time right?
>>82529189
M-m-maybe I could get lucky.
But like I said, I'm probably not attractive enough, ESPECIALLY as a male.
>>82529218
Don't worry anon. You will find someone and will be atractive. Trust me, took my three years to realize that and now I can have a normal friendship and more with women.
>>82529264
Th-th-thanks, Anon...
>>82528980
>being bothered by what other people do in their bedrooms
>moralfag
I mean, maybe, but one doesn't cause the other
Friendly reminder that Sasha Grey approves this thread.
>>82529316
Sorry, it's hard to think right when you are more concentrated in, well... this thread.
>>82529127
Also godly swamp thing art
>>82529107
Usually doing fun things for a living makes them unfun because part of the fun is the choice and freedom. That all goes away when it's your 9 to 5.
>>82528780
You shut your whore mouth.
>>82529444
Do you think a rock star life would be unfunny?
>>82529444
But tv always told me doing what you love for a living is great! Why would tv lie?
>>82529393
Swampy looks beautiful.
>>82529126
I involves something resembling sex. There are genitals involved, but also a director, cameraman, and sound guy at the minimum and you're stopping every few minutes to shift between highly unnatural positions.
>>82529480
For a lot of musicians, yes. That's why they never join bands or try to make it big. That shit's not easy.
>>82529554
thanks?
>>82529126
>The only difference is that at leats the first one have sex.
>implying it's good for the girl
The point is to get that money cum shot from the guy. It doesn't matter if the girl is enjoying it or not. As long as she makes sex noises and pretends to like it than the rest doesn't matter.
>>82528321
Azz Wondy is just boring as all hell. Whether she's stoic or whatever. I'd rather have a Wonder Woman run were she's actually an interesting character rather than using her to introduce new ones and play with them. I also hate his version of the amazons.
>>82529480
Have you seen the touring schedules of some bands? In a new city every fucking day for a year and you somehow have to manage to seem energetic and excited every time. Then you do it all again next year, and the next, and the next, until you get like a year off to make a new album, so you can do it all again. That's gotta wear on you.
>>82529107
>It saddens me to think porn is not a great job.
Mainstream porn might not be so bad but all the amateur stuff isn't so great for a lot of the girls involved (from a psychological perspective).
While on the subject, there's a film which covers the topic of amateur porn called (I think) "Hot Girls Wanted." It was on Netflix. I'm not sure if it still is. Anyway, if you're interested I recommend giving it a watch.
>>82529650
I wish there would be some petition to end fake sex noises. It grates on the soul, especially in jap porn.
>>82529160
It's worse for men
Most have to go gay for pay, and they're paid less than women
>>82529762
Then there probably wouldn't be any noise. Porn is filmed to look good for the viewer, not to be pleasurable for participating parties
>>82529762
>It grates on the soul, especially in jap porn.
Oh dear lord. They scream like they're being murdered with a length of concertina wire.
>>82529819
Can't hey just make you know, normal sex noises? The heavy breathing, the slapping of flesh, etc. Hearing a woman squeal like a piglet being chased by a branding iron is not pleasurable to me.
>>82529819
>Porn is filmed to look good for the viewer, not to be pleasurable for participating parties
This.
>>82529935
>Can't hey just make you know, normal sex noises?
Porn is to real sex want the Fast and the Furious movies are to real driving. It's meant to look good and by attention grabbing, not to be practical and realistic.
>>82529554
Sadly,there's nothing Sasha related on /gif/ right now
t.just fapped
>>82529989
*be* not by
>>82524004
This book sold out in my city in 2 days. I managed to get the last copy. I loved it
>>82524004
MUH DICK
>Azz' WW was stoic meme
lmao
this thread is as trash as it seemed to be
>5 years later and /co/mblr still bitching about Azzarello
You deserve MorriSJWon's crap 2bh
Why did Diana keep saying "hola" to people? That was the only thing I didn't get about WW E1.
>>82531015
Because she said that in the Golden Age, but nobody knows why
>>82530920
People were sucking Azz cock at the time.
>>82524232
>I was so enamored by this, I really want to check out some books on gender studies and feminist literature. I'm genuinely curious about the subject, even more so than before.
...at least until you hit fourth wave feminisim, and then it goes all intersectional SJW vs /pol/ kind of crazy.
>>82531015
>>82531043
Yeah, I kept on wondering why she kept on saying that. She said it in FC too.
>>82531015
It's just been the Amazon greeting since WW was introduced. Damned if I know why. Maybe Marston just felt it was a suitably foreign greeting that it would feel alien, but still be comprehended by readers.
>>82533379
>Maybe Marston just felt it was a suitably foreign greeting that it would feel alien, but still be comprehended by readers.
For East Coast people in the 1940s this was probably true.
The average American these days has been exposed to so much Spanish and Mexican culture that it just sounds silly now.
>>82529356
Whos is the non porn equivalent of Sasha Grey? Natalie Portman? Olivia Munn?
>>82530012
Can someone post another sasha grey gif in this thread?
>>82533799
>>82535398
who may have tought giving Wondie Sasha's face was a good idea?
>>82536863
Was it Grant Morrison's? `
>>82528780
Yeah, if Megan Fox were attractive .
Zing!
>>82527062
She really is qt. And now I'll imagine real-life Wondie as Sasha Grey from now on.
>>82524004
I haven't read a terrible lot of Wonder Woman, so I won't say that it was or wasn't "the greatest"
But frankly it was mediocre as all fuck.
"Diana tries to put a collar on a black man" hurr-de-hurr-hurr
"Diana isthe daughter of Hercules"because god all mighty we just HAVE to explain her birth other than her being a gift from the gods to Hippolyta.
Diana's Wonder Woman outfit is a sorority initiation because ?????
Diana is confused by man's word even though we've established her mother has a mirror that lets her see it.
It had some good stuff, mind. Paradise Island being full of bondage lesbians? A+ Marsten would approve.
Etta Candy being fat and proud of it? Hell yeah.
But at the end of the day it's just another fucking origin story that tries to fix a bunch of shit that wasn't broken in the first place and explain who puts the fucking air in the invisible jet's tires.
Meh.
>>82533721
Hailee Steinfeld?
>>82538254
Etta Candy is awesome.
>>82538391
who?
