Marvel almost sold Captain America to Warner Bros Pictures and Thor to Sony Pictures in the early 2000's, before Marvel Studios was established.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/marvel-studios-very-nearly-sold-the-film-rights-to-captain-america-and-a141334
Huh
The price of freedom is high.
Captain America v Superman: What's So Funny About The American Way by Zack Snyder
>>82504040
And a amazing Spiderman - Thor team up.
>>82503874
>Bucky v Superserum Man
Ends with Cap dying to Apocabones.
>>82503856
>Of course, Feige has never claimed to be the one responsible for founding Marvel Studios, but it's his vision which has given us the MCU we have today regardless of where he was when people like Maisel and Avi Arad were around and talking about giving Iron Man armour which disguised itself as a toaster!
I didn't believe this so I went to the link and lo and behold:
>Despite helping to at least open the door for superhero movies, producer Avi Arad is widely credited for running the Spider-Man franchise into the ground with the creative decisions he forced on both Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man movies. Kevin Feige and Arad don't get along, and when the latter quit Marvel in 2006 due to a lack of faith in their ideas for a Cinematic Universe, it was Feige who would soon take over as the studio's head.
>Arad has since tried to take credit for creating Marvel's slate, despite at one time happily agreeing to produce a movie which would have seen Iron Man unable to fly and dressed by his toaster. This has created a lot of tension between the two, and explains why Arad was so dead set against Spider-Man ever joining The Avengers when interviewed in 2014.
Huh, no wonder they pushed him out. But I guess this means Venom isn't part of the MCU since Arad is involved.
Captain America by Hack Snyder would be pretty fucking terrifying. Single-handedly destroying middle eastern countries without remorse during a perpetual thunderstorm.
>>82503856
>Captain America to WB
>Captain America by Snyder
Oh god.
>>82503856
What do you think a Sony Thor movie would look like? Seeing what they've done with Spiderman, I'd think it would be worse than what we have, but the Disney Thor movies aren't exactly the finest of the MCU.
>>82504040
>>82504143
He would have gone full Ultimate with Cap.
>>82504160
>>82504143
Snyder hates Captain America though. Back in 2008 he said:
>we're going to have a fricking Captain America movie if we're not careful
>>82504203
He'd jump for Civil War from the getgo.
>>82504188
>You'll get to Valhalla when you WIN THIS DAMN WAR
>>82504203
Obviously, he's not a fan of comic book characters in general. It's clear he hates Superman and from his comments about prison rape, it's painfully obvious he hates Batman as well.
>>82504188
Well given their track record is:
Spider-Man
Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man 3
Amazing Spider-Man
Amazing Spider-Man 2
Ghost Rider
Ghost Rider 2
I'd say there's a likely chance it would've done worse than the Disney Thor movies.
>>82504134
Avi Arad is a maniac. He forced Venom into Spider-Man 3, despite Raimi adamantly declaring he hated Venom. That's why Spider-Man 3 was so half-assed, because it wasn't the movie he wanted to make, so his heart wasn't in it at all.
>>82504224
Yeah but he wouldn't have Iron Man since he wouldn't be sold off to WB
>>82504231
>I'd say there's a likely chance it would've done worse than the Disney Thor movies.
They're not that bad, pleb. Sony wouldn't even know where to begin.
>>82504256
But it's true, a Sony Thor film has a far likely chance to be done worse than any Thor film that Disney made.
>>82504256
But he said Sony Thor would have been worse.
>>82504325
>>82504363
Obviously. But the implication was that Marvel's Thor movies are not good.
>>82504372
No that was >>82504188 making that implication.
>>82504203
If only he knew
>>82503856
From the Hollywood Reporter article they linked to:
>Maisel says the company's focus was on licensing other characters, "the more movies, the better because there's more consumer products to sell." Soon after he started, the company was poised to license Captain America to Warner Bros. and Thor to Sony. "If I had gotten there three months, six months later, those deals would have been done," he says. "And there would be no chance to bring all these characters together." Spider-Man already was at Sony, and Iron Man had been idling at New Line. ("They thought it was a lousy property," says Maisel.) Hulk was at Universal, which had made one semi-successful film.
Deadpool was also at New Line too (Fox eventually got him for Wolverine Origins) and so was Blade. Also was Universal's Hulk really that successful?
>>82504229
What fucking heroes does he like?
>>82504536
I don't think he does. I'm pretty sure his mission was to somehow make comic books "palatable" to those with similar shit taste with shitty film adaptations.
>>82504536
Watchmen
Avi Arad is so bad Steven Seagal thinks he's an asshole.
>>82504203
You say that like he doesn't hate superman and batman
>>82504536
Ozymandius
>>82504518
>Maisel says he wanted the next movie to focus on Hulk because Universal's 2003 Ang Lee version provided some basis to predict how another might perform. But Universal still had rights. Maisel called Universal chief Ron Meyer and asked whether he had plans to make another Hulk. When Meyer said no, Maisel says he proposed that if Marvel could have rights back, he would make at least one more Hulk movie, spending $100 million-plus, and pay Universal to distribute. It was found money for Universal. The catch was that Universal could distribute the films only if Hulk were the central character. Marvel owed Universal nothing if Hulk appeared in, say, an Avengers movie — which is, of course, exactly what later happened. (In one of several points of dispute, Arad says that he was the one who contacted Universal.)
>Ant-Man by Zack Snyder
>>82504649
Half the movie would be people exploding from failed shrinking devices.
>>82504256
The second one was unarguably shit, a near total cinematic abortion, and a literal remake of star wars episode 2.
(But the Loki scenes were good)
Some stuff the Russos said about Perlmutter leaving, might as well post here.
>Even Dupree is on cable television on a never-ending loop.
Anthony Russo: To be honest with you, before we did Winter Soldier, Dupree was by far the most commercially successful thing we’ve ever done. Almost the only commercially successful thing we’ve ever done.
Joe Russo: Also, it’s the thing we’ve felt we had the least amount of control over, with that movie than anything we’d ever done in our career. So, if we were going to go back to movies, we were going to do it in a way where we had great creative control.
>It is surprising Marvel qualifies as that.
Joe Russo: There’s this misperception about the way that Marvel works. You have to remember, too, it’s a very different place than it was two years ago.
>Right. Someone [CEO of Marvel entertainment Isaac Pearlmutter] who used to be there isn’t there anymore.
Joe Russo: He’s not there anymore.
>So even to you, you can tell that big of a difference?
Joe Russo: Oh my God.
Anthony Russo: It is different. We obviously have to see our vision of the movie to Kevin Feige. Our job is to go, here’s the movie we want to make, and sell it to him.
>And he’s a fan.
Joe Russo: But it’s no different than the process at any other studio where you’re dealing with a studio head who is writing a check for hundreds of millions of dollars.
Anthony Russo: Kevin would then have to then sell that vision to “someone else.” Now he doesn’t have to.
Joe Russo: Anytime you streamline communication, you’re doing better work.
>>82504690
I had high hopes for eccleston since him being the only good thing in gi Joe showed he's capable of redeeming schlocky material and the comics version of his Thor 2 character is a total ham, but thor 2 gave him literally nothing to do other than stomp around and grunt in elfspeak
>>82504188
>What do you think a Sony Thor movie would look like?
I'd be hard-pressed to believe it could be worse than the ones we have now.
>>82504649
He hates Ant-Man even more than he does Captain America
>Snyder took a shot at the Marvel Universe in an interview with The Daily Beast. While addressing Steven Spielberg’s comments that “there will be a time when the superhero movie goes the way of the Western,” the filmmaker said Marvel heroes are a dime a dozen.
>“I feel like he’s right. But I feel like Batman and Superman are transcendent of superhero movies in a way, because they’re Batman and Superman,” Snyder said while promoting Doritos’ final Super Bowl filmmaking contest. “They’re not just, like, the flavor of the week Ant-Man — not to be mean, but whatever it is. What is the next Blank-Man?”
>>82504738
>>82504768
Maybe mutters is the reason Thor 2 was shit? I guess we'll see when ragnarok drops
>>82504796
>trashtalking ant-man
>meanwhile superman vs. batman ended up being complete and total shit
>>82504518
>They thought it was a lousy property
They must be kicking themselves now.
>>82504796
>What is the next Blank-Man
Oh gee, maybe Bat-Man vs Super-Man you fucking hack. Matbe wait till after the movie comes out to take a victory lap
>>82504796
Sebastian Stan's response to him was 10/10 though.
>Something about, ‘It’s not going to be your flavor-of-the-week Ant-Man.’ And I was like, ‘Oh thanks, Zack. That’s great. Way to do something original,'” Stan continued. “But I would say we’re still making something very original in our own way. I mean, the Russo’s are coming in and taking something people are used to and they’re shaping it up and changing it in a very different way. They’re not trying to mimic a better Christopher Nolan movie or something like that.
>>82504858
*Maybe
Should've sold Thor. Thor movies been sucking hard.
>>82504853
Hundreds of high-profile actors and directors turned down "Iron Man" after it went to Marvel Studios, certain that the movie would be a spectacular flop.
Terrence Howard was paid so much because his street cred was at an all-time high in 2007 and they needed at least one high-profile actor to add credibility to the project.
>>82504203
of course, Cap's not a Jesus-like figure so Snyder can't wack off to it.
>>82504254
Oh wait, after reading the HR article it turns out Iron Man was at New Line so if they got Cap maybe they could've just moved Iron Man over.
>>82504859
Winter Soldier delivering the frostburns.
>>82504859
>They’re not trying to mimic a better Christopher Nolan movie or something like that.
They're just trying to mimic a Joss Whedon movie.
>>82504894
This, also remember that RDJ was a big risk because of his drug and prison stuff.
Remember that episode of the Simpsons where they joked about him being in a shoot-out with the cops?
>>82504859
It's always the quiet ones.
>>82504953
One year later? You can do better than that, Zack.
>>82504953
>>82504887
You really think that Sony would do a better job? Sony, with Spider-Man 3 and Amazing Spider-Man 1 and 2 and the Ghost Rider films? And that's not even getting into other stuff like Pixels and the other lesser Sandler comedies.
>>82504796
Doesn't sound like he has a particular hat on Ant-man.
He sounds more like just another casual, who thinks Batman and Superman can be the only good written super heroes.
>>82504953
You tried.
>>82504963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4qNhUwBvj8
kek
>>82504796
>he doesn't realize/care that he's slamming the entire dc backbench
No wonder the flash and aquaman directors quit rather than work a franchise led by this moron
Maybe Affleck's Batfleck flick will be good enough that Ben can cuck Snyder's job
>>82505088
The Aquaman director quit too? When?
>>82505088
What? James Wan is still on Aquaman isn't he?
>>82504859
>They’re not trying to mimic a better Christopher Nolan movie or something like that.
EXTREME ICE BURN
>>82505088
>>he doesn't realize/care that he's slamming the entire dc backbench
That's the best part to me
>>82505133
It turned out to be just a rumor
>>82503856
>Marvel almost sold Captain America to Warner Bros Pictures
I don't even want to imagine what that would have been like.But I already have.
>A small apartment, the curtains drawn.
>An old record player barely drowning out the noises of an angry and restless city.
>A man walks into the living room in full military dress.
>He places a box on the table, has a seat and stairs at it for a moment before taking a deep breathe and opening it.
>He reaches in and slowly pulls a gun from the box.
>A tear roles down his eye as he chambers a round.
>He puts the gun to his head pauses for a moment then screams.
>Title rolls in from his open mouth
>CAPTAIN AMERICA
>>82504196
Even worse, Ultimate Cap had redeeming qualities and the guy learned from his mistakes.
SnyderCap would be exactly what casuals who have never touched a comic think Ultimate Cap is.
>>82504963
Even the Ultimates made a dig at RDJ when Fury tells Cap hus face looks more smashed than RDJ.
And that was before the Iron Man movie.
alright /co/
lets cast Sony's Thor
>Kevin James as Thor
>Adam Sandler as loki
>Chris Rock as Zeus
>Melisa Mcarthy as Jane Foster
>David Spade as Mjionir
>>82504536
He said Watchmen is the one book that managed to get him into superheroes cuz "sex and violence"
>>82505466
>Zeus
holy shit i meant odin
>>82504134
>Arad has since tried to take credit for creating Marvel's slate, despite at one time happily agreeing to produce a movie which would have seen Iron Man unable to fly and dressed by his toaster
And I thought Marvel movies were bad. I mean, a toaster? That's dumb even for a cartoon.
>>82505502
No no, this could work.
>Sony Hercules
>In 1943, Steve Rogers (Ryan Gosling), an impoverish, sickly young man rejected for military service is selected as a test subject for the Supersoldier Program, a fringe science experiment secretly funded by the United States government and conducted by mad Nazi scientist Abraham Erskine (Scott Glenn). Rogers, an expendable figure, unexpected emerges as the sole survivor of the horrific experiments, whereas Erskine is killed by a deranged subject who snaps his neck. Rogers is immediately conscripted to become a black ops operative in the European frontlines, a skilled, untracable operator who becomes an urban legend known as "The Captain" among the soldiers. In his final assignment before retirement, Rogers is unexpectedly ambushed and falls into the freezing waters of Iceland following a seemingly fatal explosion, and is declared dead.
>On present day, Rogers is found and revived by the shadowy international intelligence organization SHIELD, led by General Nick Fury (Jason Segel, playing against the type), who collects Rogers' blood to complete a refined reproduction of the Supersoldier Serum given to an accomplished black ops operative, John Walker (Alexander Skarsgard). Rogers is stripped of his rank and shield and forced to conform to a rundown life in a world that is alien and broken to him.
>>82504518
>Maisel also confirms that Universal still hold the distribution rights to The Hulk while Marvel owns the character, so a solo movie remains unlikely.
Why haven't they bought them out yet, this isn't like the situation with Fox/Sony; they can't make a movie on their own, they won't get any money even if the characters are included in other movies. Just sell the distribution rights back already.
>>82504160
CAP OF MURDER
>>82505522
>Seth Rogan as Hercules
>>82505539
>Soon enough, he can't take any more of the filth that pollutes the streets and drapes himself in the American flag to wage a one-man war against crime, terrorist, drugs, prostitution and all behavior he views as immoral and degenerate. SHIELD soon makes Rogers their public enemy and Walker is sent to kill him, but in the process the Supersoldier Serum in Walker's veins begins to mutate him, driving him insane. Warped by his own sense of self-worth and viewing himself as morally superior to the human race, Walker tears the skin off his face, rejecting his human upbringing, to embrace his new role as an icon and a symbol of a new world order. With Walker's rampage threatening the population, it rests on the shoulders of Rogers to fight one more time and destroy the living embodiment of what went wrong with America.
>But Rogers soon realizes that he himself is a relic of a fundamentally broken system for a myriad of different reasons, and chooses to die alongside Walker in a symbolic act in which he acknowledges Walker as his brother in their physical superiority and sense of detachment. Rogers is given a proper burial by SHIELD as a loyal soldier of America, but soon rises out of his grave and despairs at the realization that the serum in his veins has rendered him virtually immortal, forever denying him the embrace of death and shackling him to a world he's grown to resent, forever steering him towards a neverneding fight for a broken dream.
>Then Fury's aid remarks on how hot Rogers is "for a grandpa"
>DIRECTED BY ZACK SNYDER
>>82503856
I heard of dodging bullets before, but this is ridiculous.
>>82505539
I'm pretty sure that SHIELD and Nick Fury were a seperate license
Snyder Cap would only be pallatable if he casted Fantastic Four-fresh Chris Evans in a Sucker Punch outfit.
>>82505639
Nah. Fox made a Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD TV film. They also wanted to put Ultimate Fury into Fantastic Four 2 but Marvel declined it (since they were planning to use him for Iron Man)
>>82505619
>James Franco is his satyr sidekick who introduces him to the pleasures of the modern world, namely weed
>>82505466
>>82505502
>>82505522
>>82505619
>THOR BY SONY PICTURES
>Kevin James as Thor
>Peter Dinklage as Odin
>Adam Sandler as Loki
>Melissa McCarthy as Jane Foster
>David Spade as Mjionir
>Chris Rock as Zeus
>Seth Rogan as Hercules
Anyone else?
>>82505665
That's exactly what I meant, that SHIELD and Fury wouldn't be included in the Captain America rights
>>82505728
Oh right, yeah, they wouldn't be part of the Captain America rights.
>>82505714
Ya'll laugh but Universal considered a comedic Hulk movie starring Adam Sandler in the 90's.
>>82505765
>>82505502
No it's better if he's Zeus.
>>82504859
>Superman and Batman are complex characters with the potential for movies with both heart and meaning
>If Snyder continues we get his trash
>If Snyder leaves the next director will probably create a braindead comedy
JUST
U
S
T
>>82505783
No joke, they were stuck on a script written by Jonathan Hensleight in the 90's and considered just making it a joke, with Sandler as Bruce Banner and Jim Carrey as the main villain, Novak, an ex-con who is turned by gamma radiation in a monstrous ant-man.
![tumblr_o0te7uvb4j1sqz6s1o1_500[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/pgLOHQ1.png "tumblr_o0te7uvb4j1sqz6s1o1_500[1].png")
>>82505714Amy Schumer as EnchantresAvi Arad as Surtur
>>82505714
I'd be better than what we got.
The Rock as Skurge, complete with gut wrenching sacrifice?
This thread reminds me of when /co/ brainstormed some ideas for a Tim Burton Spider-Man movie.
>>82505654
Which outfit though?
![2695309-gl7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DO8Z1OL.jpg "2695309-gl7[1].jpg")
>>82505877
>>82503856
>tfw realizing you dont live in the nightmare alternate reality where the MCU doesnt exist and comic book movies are still about as good as video game movies
>>82505836
huh
>>82504203
Well, Snyder hates Superman too.
>>82505940
>That's the universe where all your favorite shows got another season
>>82505951
Captain America, Aquaman and Green Lantern almost nearly got comedic movies.
Green Lantern's is pretty famous, it'd star Jack Black. Whereas Aquaman was linked to Mark Wahlberg at the time.
>>82505940
idk comic book movies have always had gems in the rough, even before mcu
video game movies still have literally zero gems
>>82506009
I want to watch these
>>82504536
>What fucking heroes does Snyder like?
John Galt.
>>82504536
The ones that kill and have sex
>You could call it “high-brow” comics, but to me, that comic book was just pretty sexy! I had a buddy who tried getting me into “normal” comic books, but I was all like, “No one is having sex or killing each other. This isn’t really doing it for me.” I was a little broken, that way. So when Watchmen came along, I was, “This is more my scene.”
>>82505940
>>tfw realizing you dont live in the nightmare alternate reality where the MCU doesnt exist
sounds like paradise
>>82506092
If only he had a self-aware bone in his body.
>>82504536
Rorschach
it was pretty obvious by how hard he tried to make him look cool in Watchmen
>>82503856
And instead they turned them into quip factories.
What could have been.
>>82504887
Thor movies maybe not be kino, but they're pretty comfy.
>>82506153
>quips meme
It's okay man, Whedon is gone. You can stop getting triggered by quips now.
>>82506115
I'm sure it does Zack, it's probably also the reality where people like your movies.
>>82506153
>What could have been.
Actually they'd still be quip factories.
>>82506153
Yeah, I sure am glad Green Lantern was a quip free movie
>>82504611
I wish, he didn't even try to pretend he was a good guy in the movie
>Added a menacing mask to the costume, made him look like an asshole with a superiority complex most of the time, didn't make him cheer when the world was "saved"
>>82505622
Pure capekino.
>>82505765
I'm triggered by an alternate universe.
>>82505539
>>82505622
>>82504188
Well, they would have rebooted the movie universe 3 times already, with increasingly subpar results.
>>82504372
They're really not.
>>82505900
Screenshots?
>>82504649
give me more RLM reaction pictures.
>>82506487
Didn't get any, but I remember the gist of it.
>Peter is an excentric, quirky teenager who lives in the suburbs. He's obsessed with spiders.
>He has a crush on Mary-Jane, a popular girl with hidden depths and odd interests.
>Peter's mentor is his biology teacher Curt Connors, who is himself obsessed with reptiles because he wants to regrown his lost arm.
>Connors develops a serum based on reptile DNA that could restore his arm and injects it on himself. Peter's pet spider is exposed to it and later bites Peter, turning him into Spider-Man.
>Peter undergoes a surreal metamorphosis into a human spider and uses his newfound confidence to become closer to Mary-Jane. Meanwhile, Connors becomes the Lizard and begins eating people.
>Peter decides to investigate and finds out Connors is the Lizard. Because of Peter's odd behavior, he is blamed for the killings and believed to be a serial killer.
>The Lizard kidnaps Mary-Jane to inject her with the serum and turn her into his mate, and Peter breaks out of jail to rescue her. He uses a suit to conceal his identity and defeats the Lizard, being embraced as a hero nicknamed "Spider-Man".
>Mary-Jane finds out who Peter is and they move into an apartment in the city, where Peter begins fighting crime and working as a photographer.
>>82506129
I mean, Snyder's a randian. It's not terribly surprising that he'd like an objectivist.
![tumblr_ltz4uqprX11qzf1kyo1_1280[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HnLwK5f.jpg "tumblr_ltz4uqprX11qzf1kyo1_1280[1].jpg")
>>82506645
i want this just for the possibility of Goth MJ
>>82506389
That depends.
Sony Thor does great like Spider-Man = multiple reboots
Sony Thor does bad like Ghost Rider = Eventually goes back to Marvel, but Thor isn't a founding Avenger.
>>82504859
>They’re not trying to mimic a better Christopher Nolan movie or something like that.
jesus christ bucky
>>82506009
>Green Lantern movie starring Jack Black
>he just uses the ring to summon a guitar
>the movie is actually Tenacious D 2
>>82506858
How long does Sony owns Ghost Rider rights?
>>82504859
SAVAGE
>>82507319
every movie with Nicolas Cage is secretly a ghost rider movie, so they get to keep the rights.
>>82504203
That doesn't mean he hates Cap.
>>82507319
Marvel has them i think, alongside Blade, hence why last year there were rumors they were going to get a Netflix series
>>82504134
Iron Toaster vs. Bagel Jor-El
Who wins?
>>82506565
>>82506565
>>82506565
>>82505765
WB also considered making a comedy Green Lantern film.
Starring Jack Black as an OC Lantern whose main feat of will that earns him the ring is being a competitive eating champion.
I'm not kidding.
>>82504143
that sounds cool
>>82507620
If the Brando Bagel falls into Iron Toaster, it's all over.
>>82504536
Jesus
>>82507716
I'd much rather have that than the abortion of a GL movie we got.
>>82504196
Ultimate Cap is pretty decent. He waddles hard between a war hero, 40s morality and being a genuinely good persons who improves a lot.
The Blade Crossover was fucking genius too.
>>82504768
That pissed me off, he's probably the best actor besides Kingsley they've brought in for a villain and they gave him shite
>>82504203
>>82504160
isn't that just ultimate Captain America?
>>82504859
>Winter Soldier
>Bringing the heat
POTTERY
How would a GOTG movie go if it was sold to a different studio?
>>82506201
Civil War was full of quips.
what's even funnier is how they tried to trade Daredevil and something else for Fantastic Four
>>82507958
It wouldn't.
>>82507958
>Implying any studio would have bought the rights to such an obscure property
>>82508024
Marvel offered Fox an extension of the Daredevil movie rights in exchange of Galactus and the Silver Surfer
>>82508025
>>82508045
Come on, let's be hypothetical.
>>82508008
RDJ's Tony and quipping is fine
Spiderman quipping is perfectly in line with the comic.
the problem is when everyone else is doing it.
>>82508072
You need to name a filmmaker first.
>>82505466
>>82505502
What are you saying? Putting Zeus in a Thor movie is exactly what Sony would do
>>82508008
It really wasn't. The airport scene and the Spidey scene were pretty much the only lighthearted parts in the movie.
>>82503856
this is neat and all, but where is my darkhawk movie
>>82504536
Conan the barbarian, I think. Though it might just be that he likes Frank Frazetta's art for the character, with the big muscles.
>>82505765
>>82504134
OY VEY
>>82504134
Avi Arad is a fucking madman.
When Amazing Spider-Man was released he insisted that it was in continuity with the Raimi films.
I don't know how he made himself believe it.
>>82508418
I think he may be senile, but nobody wants to admit it.
>>82508071
The best part is, after Fox denied Marvel the deal they wanted, and scrapped their ongoing plans for a new Daredevil movie, they did precisely nothing with Galactus and the Silver Surfer, and with the utter failure of their Fant4stick movie, likely won't for years, while Marvel took the rights they got back tht they weren't even angling for, and made a critically acclaimed Netflix series out of it.
>>82507716
Speaking of near comedies:
Watchmen.
They seriously had rarscharc pegged to be played by Robin Williams
>>82507559
I hope they do, a Midnight Sons series would be GOAT.
>>82508646
Wasn't Arnold Schwartzenegger also considered for Dr. Manhattan's role?
>>82507319
They gave them up some time after Ghost Rider 2.
>>82508418
Holy shit.
>>82507418
He hasn't done any Sony films after GR 2 though
The only reason the MCU was possible was because no body wanted the rights to Cap, Thor and Iron Man.
Fucking Ghost Rider was considered a more lucrative license back then.
>>82508672
Yes.
Sam Hamm's script was hilarious off-mark.
>>82506645
>jesse eisenberg playing Spider Man
No, thanks.
>>82508637
>>82508740
He claimed this before ASM was released though. I think he was damage controlling in the same way the recent Ghostbusters trailer tried to imply it was the same universe as the original even though it wasn't.
>>82506645
>The Lizard kidnaps Mary-Jane to inject her with the serum and turn her into his mate
So did MJ get turned into a lizard?
>>82508774
Is that the one David Hayter worked on?
>114. INT. GUNGA DINER - RESTROOM - A MOMENT LATER
>A twitchy MOLOCH locks himself in a stall, sits on the throne, and pulls out a bundle of WHITE POWDER. He takes a couple of hits up the nose, then dips his finger in the stuff and rubs it around the edges of his EYELIDS.
>His eyes water. He sniffles. He reaches for some toilet paper; bizarrely, a small BUSINESS CARD falls out of the roll. He picks it up... There's a hand-scrawled RORSCHACH BLOT on its face.
>A low, hissing GROWL from overhead. MOLOCH looks up suddenly -- and sees RORSCHACH peering at him over the stall partition. He GASPS and lunges for the door. RORSCHACH's arm snakes out and holds the stall door shut.
RORSCHACH: Two things I hate. Street mimes... and users of recreational drugs.
>>82508886
No. Sam Hamm wrote a draft in the 90's.
Then David Hayer wrote a draft in the early 2000's, which was pretty good.
And then Alex Tse wrote a draft in the late 2000's, which later added elements of Hayter's draft and became Snyder's film.
>>82508932
>He takes a couple of hits up the nose, then dips his finger in the stuff and rubs it around the edges of his EYELIDS.
Cocaine: You're doing it wrong.
>>82508418
>>82508799
Now that i think about it, remember how the movie was promoted as "the untold story"? Maybe at first they unironically imagined it as a sort of prequel/sequel to Raimi that focused on Peter's mysterious parents
>>82509563
It was always a reboot. The "Untold Story" referred to a more complex origin for Peter's powers rather than just a random accident.
>>82509876
And yet Uncle Ben died because of chocolate milk.
Imagine a world without Chris Evans Cap
Why even live
>>82510962
I don't think I can live in a world without his laugh.
>>82510962
>Imagine a world without Chris Evans Cap
That is no world worth imagining
>>82504859
poor zack, cant catch a break
>>82512755
But he deserves everything bad coming to him.
I think everything wrong with DC films can be seen in how DC handled Batman's Origin in MvS and how Marvel handled Spider-man's Origin in Civil War.
BvS needs to show us every detail in one of its many dream sequences, more concerned with trying to create iconic visuals than actually tell us anything about this specific Bruce Wayne.
Civil War has Stark interrupt Peter's attempt to tell us his origin. They know his origin isn't important to this movie and everyone already knows the origin anyway.
In conclusion, Zack Snyder is a hack who can't tell a story.
>>82512755
It's karma for being a dick.
>>82509876
>It was always a reboot.
Probably by the time they worked on it, but maybe initially they thought it was going to take place during the Raimi films (Feige even thought it was going to do that too) and then the finished product turned out not to do that.
>>82504247
They should have fired Raimi in that case. Sandman would have been a shit villain for a two hour movie.
>>82508789
You mean Johnny Depp
>>82513317
>fire the talented director because a moron producer wouldn't give up his bad idea
>>82504231
Can you imagine a Disney Thor cartoon done when they were doing shit like Atlantis?
>>82513317
>the movie would have been the same length with the stuff that was forced in removed
>>82513702
>Venom
>a bad idea
More money in Venom than DUDE SYMPATHETIC VILLAIN THIS TIME WITH SAND LMAO
They should have hired a director who loved Venom and wanted to tell his story. I'm with Sony on this one.
>>82505539
>(Jason Segel, playing against the type)
why am i laffin
So why doesn't disney just buy the F4 rights back from fox? The franchise is fucked, they can't be worth much anymore.
>>82508759
He was easier to sell to the edgy public of the early 2000's. He's a fucking skeleton demon that rides a motorcycle that sets shit on fire and he fights fucking satan. How would someone sell a Cap movie back then?
>>82503856
>Marvel almost sold Captain America to Warner Bros Pictures and Thor to Sony Pictures in the early 2000's, before Marvel Studios was established.
Why would this surprise anyone? Blade and X-Men were hits and shopping around films rights was how this kind of stuff used to happen.
Them failing to find a buyer worked out for the best in all likelihood.
>>82515277
It's not that anyone's surprised, more that we dodged a bullet.
Thank shit, we don't live in this nightmarish alternate reality
>>82514624
They don't need to spend the hundreds of millions. They can easily play the waiting game and see if Fox wants to partner up like Sony or trade F4 for X-men TV.
>>82503879
is it a price you're willing to pay?
>>82513938
>throwing Sam Raimi, the only good director Sony Pictures had a good relationship with at the time, into the garbage can so you could squeeze a few more tickets sales out with Venom
Of course, this argument is pointless anyway, since the deed has been done already.
So how broke was Marvel at the time if they were just diving all of their properties away like it was nothing.
>>82516819
Bankrupt
>>82504536
Mr. A, Punisher, probably would do a good Grifter
>>82513317
>>82513765
Actually, it turns out that Spider-Man 3 was always gonna have 3 villains.
If Avi Arad hadn't forced Venom in, Raimi wanted to use the Vulture.
>>82514624
>So why doesn't disney just buy the F4 rights back from fox? The franchise is fucked, they can't be worth much anymore.
Disney's film schedule is currently full. They can afford to wait. The longer they wait the cheaper the rights would be worth.
>>82503856
why on earth would you sell the film rights to a character to the competition
i doubt they would have sold cap in the end but thor may well have happened
>>82506755
We kind of got that in the MTV cartoon, and brief bits of Ultimate and Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane.
>>82519082
Because back then Marvel was on the verge of folding and literally couldn't afford to say no.
>>82508418
>When Amazing Spider-Man was released he insisted that it was in continuity with the Raimi films.
Source?
>>82520489
>"Exec producer Avi Arad says the film won't erase what came before but will try to weave a narrative that could take place within the framework of the earlier films. 'It's not a comeback,' he says. 'You have to look at it this way: Do you want to know more about Spider-Man? This movie is going to tell stories that you didn’t see in movies 1, 2, and 3."
I think he was just lying, no way anyone could possibly think ASM could co-exist with Raimi's films
>>82520479
man how the mighty fall
and rise again i guess
>>82504196
i'd pay good money for cap to say that on screen
>>82504196
So why did people got mad at this? It seems like a pretty American thing to say.
Friendly Reminder: Arad is making the Metal Gear Solid Film
>Turning to the subeject of Metal Gear Solid, Arad expressed his view that the franchise is “actually full of storytelling” (and cutscenes, lots of cutscenes), which means that it will translate into film fairly easily. He added that he likes to take inspiration from operas and the Bible, and that Metal Gear Solid is perfect in that sense because Solid Snake and Liquid Snake are like Cain and Abel.
>>82521612
shit, some of these are literally perfect.
the biggest problem with a MGS film would propably be the tone.
It's really hard to describe, but I feel like it doesn't do things for comedy, but it does things so exaggerated that it occasionally becomes funny, but still awesome at the same time.
It can't be a lighthearted GotG movie, but it can't be a grim DC movie either.
>>82521612
Why would you need a different actor for Solid and Naked?
>>82504196
... But wouldn't real Cap know that France was far from cowards and even after official surrender they kept fight in the underground resistance? I mean, didn't he work with La Resistance on many occasions?
>>82521949
>>82521612
They really ought to start with Metal Gear instead of Solid. While they could just jump right in to MGS it would require either a lot of exposition or a lot of rewrites to make it work.
>>82522141
Oh come on now anon don't be silly. If that were true then the Ultimates might come off as being fucking stupid, and how could that be true?
>>82522141
That's what make the scene stupid, Cap fought alongside actual french soldiers during WWII, he would be normally the last one to say that..
>>82505940
>in this reality /co/ has avoided the normie attention and remained its own little world, isolated from the world at large
I'm not sure which I would choose
>>82521612
>Liquid and Solid don't look alike at all
>Big Boss and Snake are different actors
>>82521612
>>82522446
>Raiden and Raikov are different actors
>>82522446
And there's even a third one just for Naked Snake. Also Liquid and Miller's actors look nothing alike.
