Good evening owls of /co/,
Levitz/Giffen, this'll be great and cheerful!
hehe
>>82482675
so what's good today because all I read is New Avengers wherein WICCAN'S KOOKY QUARTET and keikaku were at hand
>>82482675
Hello Storyteller.
Goodness, Tinya got jacked. Phantom BEEF.
I think you can pinpoint the exact moment Giffen stops giving a shit
>>82482729
Thunderbolts and Punisher were disappointing
At least Midnighter was great. Makes me want more Middy and Polly when it won't happen. ;_;
>>82482742
Bless his heart, Keef is pretty vulnerable to that.
>>82482735
isn't it great?
I do really like the Kirby in his art
>>82482675
So, what was happening when we jumped back over to LL?
New Fatal Five and Ayla and Vi being awful aunts to Garridan?
>>82482729
Ewing is a gift. The issue wasn't even that great but theTRIPLE AGENTpage had me yelping. I find his character development can be a little staggered but he's dead good with character voices straight from the starting line.
>>82482729
Contest of Champions officially brought Night Thrasher back to 616.
Also, Thunderbolts was... not worth it.
>>82482768
I will give props to Dillion though, for having variety in his faces and not just having Frankface.
>>82482768
Thunderbolts was like if Injustice was made in the 90's.
>>82482783
Holy crap, Steve Dillon remembered how to draw a second face!
>>82482729
I thought A-Force was fun, read it for the art. I actually liked T-Bolts warts and all. The art does something for me so I dig it. Punisher was fine imitation Ennis, hope it finds a voice.
Scarlet Witch was pretty
>>82482783
Ah yes, I did see /k/ came over and had a good solid WTF laugh about that one
>>82482800
yep
>>82482805
And lots of different things happened, so you don't feel like it's stopping just to focus on one person
>>82482832
this is not making me want to read it :(
>>82482729
Someone claimed to be you in the TBolts #1 storytime.
If you haven't actually read it yet, I will say that the good thing about it isnone of the 'bolts I really like are in it.
>>82482729
Thunderbolts was disappointing. It was all around kind of a nothing first issue, and the only thing of note was the stupid ending. Kinda get the feeling the writer doesn't give a shit.
Oh, and apparently the plot is going to involve Inhumans. Because they haven't been shoved into enough stuff.
>>82482768
>Thunderbolts and Punisher were disappointing
I've got THOUGHTS about Thunderbolts. I didn't think it was as bad as that thread implies and I think there's a really conscious revisitation of the 90s 'Bolts in there. But certainly, it's hard to see it being as good as what Ewing or, say, even Seeley might deliver on that team book.
>>82482800
I honestly think they might have retconned Validus being Garth and Imra's kid.
>>82482853
GODDAMMIT PAUL
GODDAMMIT KEITH
>>82482878
that was me, taking a break from shit outside
>>82482729
Thunderbolts is one where if the art wasn't so shitty I could have forgiven it a little story-wise. Like maybe characterization and such could be smoothed over in time. I don't know.
>>82482832
Oh come on, do you really think that? What happened on the last page there, especially with such an easily fixable setup, is not quite in the same league as the Joker tricking Superman into murdering his pregnant wife.
I will say super-powered and uncontrollable kid is one of my least favourite tropes. But people are sure as shit not looking at that book with a fair eye.
>>82482907
best Retroboot ship, dead in the water
>>82482892
I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter tomorrow night after I read it myself
I told you Thunderbolts wouldn't be good. Zub is not a good writer.
>>82482907
And Dirk was finally getting some non-mean characterization, too.
>>82482795
>isn't it great?
>I do really like the Kirby in his art
I will never understand why so many people get mad when female superheroes actually look capable of their jobs. Like, they get legit angry when anyone dare suggests a female cape maybe ought to be muscular.
>>82482800
>Ayla and Vi being awful aunts to Garridan?
Seriously, do they not realize? What the fuck.
>>82482805
It's one of the last books out there that still has me laughing out loud.
I don't know why Ewing's jokes still land, but basically, he stays pretty in-character for his punchlines and it works. Songbird is still Songbird, and the humor involving her is purely secondhand.
>>82482729
Ewing keeps killing it everywhere. He's not the guy who will write the most mindblowing comic you've ever read, but if you want good superhero stories with interesting, consistent characters? He is the fucking guy. Focusing on Billy stepping up to the plate as a leader is a great way to add more to his character and get him out of generic hell, Squirrel Girl focusing more on changing instead of fighting was great, Plunderer was just a really fun villain... so much to enjoy.
Midnighter was a great send off and Orlando's message from the heart of a gay man getting to be the hero - the lead character, not the supporting cast, not the villain, but the hero - and getting to be openly gay with no restraint, was fantastic.
I really wish DC had hyped that book more.
>>82483004
>>82483042
I don't think Imra ever told the Legion proper what was up with Validus, did she?
>>82483066
That's what it is--the humor grows out of the character situations instead of being pasted on
>>82483042
Really? What about all the female beefcake threads? Now granted, that is mostly fetishism but it still shows people are OK with beefier women.
>>82483004
Fair disclosure: 90s art doesn't really bother me if it's not Liefeld's worst excesses tier. I'm excited to see your reaction! I do think you are gonna fucking hate the last page.
>>82482892
It's literally difficult for me to even focus on the writing there through that art. I couldn't believe that shit. Zub got a rough hand.
>>82483135
I think that marketing got the wrong idea about the 90s coming back.
>>82482907
It's the future, right? Couldn't they just give him a new head? They gave Garth and Brek new arms.
>>82483098
>>82483093
Ewing's comics give me the feel of a lived-in MU that I've missed in so many of the #relatable books
>>82483098
>I don't think Imra ever told the Legion proper what was up with Validus, did she?
I honestly don't know. Not really sure if or why she would keep that a secret.
>>82483111
In my experience, those threads tend to have more whining about the concept than anything.
>>82482768
Cloonan's Punisher is just like the most generic Punisher fill-in so far.
>>82482907
Is Dirk the most consistently fucked over Legionnaire? First the horror show that was 5YL traitor and then burned up skinless man, then he got depowered and didn't do much in reboot, now this
>>82483165
>not wanting Civil War 2's "power metallic gloss" covers
>>82483183
>>82483198
I think he is. Has anyone else had two fucking brutal deaths? KK went out more gloriously his first time.
Not to bring in movie talk for so long but making a prayer circle that the New Mutants movie avoids stepping into the most obvious, terrible, easily avoidable casting nightmare when they get around to Dani.
>>82483215
>that last speechbox
LETTERERRRRRRRR
>>82483135
>>82483165
The art didn't really bother me. It's 90s as hell sure. Ghosts of Liefeld and Bagley abound, but I don't get the actual sickened reaction. There are good things I could say about the art.
>>82483183
>#relatable
>"I can't enjoy a book unless the protagonist is a 1:1 representation of myself."
I hate shit like this, and I want it to go away.
>>82483249
Man Midnighter was so good. So good that we don't even deserve it.;_; fuck you DC [/spoiler)
>>82482675
Hello storyteller
>>82483257
This entire volume's lettering is just killing me
>>82483004
Y'know Paul, lampshading how absurd his death was doesn't make it any less awful.
>>82483249
I don't remember a time when KK was not dead.
>>82483256
white girl?
>>82483189
>Not really sure if or why she would keep that a secret.
The biggest issue to me is that it's legitimate family. Hell, Ayla had a video call from the boys not too long ago with them running around playing pirate. If anyone should know, it's her, y'know?
We're approaching the apex of dumb tonight then.It's all my fault!
>>82483183
It really, really reminds me of older Marvel stuff. 70s and 80s stuff, where there was a shared world, of course, but everyone kind of had their own ongoing lives, instead of just constantly being caught in bigger and bigger crises.
>>82483093
Ewing hits it so well with so many different characters, in books that have significant differences in tone. In a perfect world he would be where Bendis is for Marvel.
>>82483310
WHOOPS those are not harmless beep boops
say, solicits when?
>>82483198
Let see:
>Original- Turns traitor, dies shamefully then is forced to live as a horrible burning corpse before being shot
>Reboot-Doesn't get to do much, once got turned into a horrible monster, eventually got destroyed with the rest of the Reboot universe
>Threeboot-Gets to be a leader of sorts for once, goes off on his own, ends up getting killed in Lo3W
>Retroboot-Dies pointlessly
Pretty bad luck.
>>82483265
One of my favorite books is Starlin's Warlock, and I can assure you that I am no golden-skinned man-god.
https://twitter.com/whoajordie/status/727647560710668289
Here's a page from Future Quest
>>82483347
Not next week, but the week after. Or maybe the week after that. I dunno.
>>82483302
You weren't here for Reboot and Threeboot?
>>82483339
he's kind of Busiek-like, but maybe less strongly opinionated on some takes/eras
>>82482907
>>82483004
So, was there a point to killing Dirk off like this, off panel and out of nowhere?
>>82483284
This. Just because you acknowledge something is stupid does not make it any less stupid.
>>82483347
>say, solicits when?
week of the 16th, probably
I keep forgetting Geoff Johns' Rebirth special thing comes out later this month
>>82483302
I don't think he ever died in Reboot or Threeboot.
And he was alive for most of Countdown. But that never happened so it doesn't count.
>>82483409
NOW YOU'RE JUST FUCKING RUBBING IT IN, PAUL
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
>>82482907
IT BEGINS
>>82483323
That's why I'm thinking they straight up retconned Validus being Garth and Imra's kid.
>>82483409
Is it just me or did Glorith get a little... white after the reboot?
>>82482729
Korbik's innocent bloodthirst is great. Also everyone's mad about Thunderbolts because of Karla, but I love it.
Looks like her psychological headgames sort of fall short against a guy who's lived through soviet brainwashing.
>>82483425
So long as James Jesse isn't the Trickster, Countdown happened. A change stuck.
>>82483434
No matter how bad this gets, I know that hell won't open up until Etrigan is actually elected.
Apparently Seeley has an Aftershock book coming out.
https://twitter.com/alecho/status/727874341224882176
What even is the consensus on Aftershock's books anyway
>>82483434
WELL at least we have this
twitter.com/geoffjohns/status/728017762103263232
>>82483327
Remember the old days, where a comic would casually name-drop shit that happened in COMPLETLY unrelated comics?
Like, you'll read X-Men, and suddenly Like Cage shows up, or you're reading Spider-Man and suddenly Captain Britian comes up.
>>82483409
I like Busiek, but X-Factor was a mistake.
>>82483466
I don't see that being even nearly concluded, despite the finisher.
>>82483434
WHAT THE FUCK
man that is fucked up, what the fuck Paul/Keith?
>>82483409
Love Busiek, but his opinions on X-Men are almost objectively wrong.
>>82483434
Oh wow, this must be Giffen's doing.
>>82483409
Glorith looking a bit cute being huffy in that last panel.
>>82483323
Yeah, I'm just gonna chalk it up to bad writing, because that makes absolutely no sense.
>>82483488
Johns is just asking for another broken heart isn't he
and lol at somebody mentioning Berganza in the replies
>>82483523
>>82483528
surely someone, when this came out, went WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? at them and got a response, right?
>>82483488
that is a very cute doggy!
I hope this one, y'know, is healthy and lives;_;
>>82483183
Yeah it feels grounded in 616 and he makes it feel real like a real place. Like the best big 2 stuff (Suicide Squadbfor example).
King is good at it too
>>82483488
For how much Johns loves his bulldogs, he could murder someone and you'll never convince me he's bad people.
>>82483198
He has a higher death count than Karate Kid or Ferro Lad, both of which are primarily known in these circles for their deaths.
>>82483582
What if he feeds anyone who threatens to leak the Berganza stories to those dogs?
>>82483544
that's kind of a dick thing to do: "Nice dog! Can you comment on this legal issue I want you to?"
>>82483566
my doggus is pricey but I loves him
>>82483565
...None of this bothers me.i have been accused of being giffen about four distinct times over the past year
>>82483405
>and I can assure you that I am no golden-skinned man-god.
Well not with that attitude.
>>82483544
>lol at somebody mentioning Berganza in the replies
It's so inappropriate and random I thought it was a spambot or something.
>>82483434
>Dirk dies
>body gets eaten by random aliens
Thanks, Paul and Keith. That was oh so necessary.
>>82483464
Nah, that's just the colorist for this issue fucking up.
>>82483634
>Two Civil War II one-shots out in August, The Fallen and The Accused, with no details whatsoever until July 6th.
LOL
O
L
>>82483493
Yes, though I don't really know what that as to do with what I mentioned.Ie. Brainy being thoroughly fucked over by the end of this run because he messed up as a teenager.
>>82483686
Rhody on trial for killing Jen??
>>82483686
Remember how a bunch of those solicits, supposedly in the middle of Civil War II, are about the run up to Civil War II?
Mmmmmmmm this is gonna suckkkkk
>>82483686
we've seen this tagline before
>waifu academy civil war event started
rip my free time
>>82482972
It's Moonstone fans, they're just mad their waifu isn't sexually manipulating the hell out of the new boss.
I like it, myself. Karla's usual playthings are loser, weak minded supervillains, so it's entirely sensible that she has more trouble with upright, heroic guys like Bucky.
>>82483434
>>82483728
According to Rich the Leech Rhodey is the one who dies while Jen is just in a coma.
>>82483686
Really trying to milk it huh
CW2 is like 8 issues long
>>82483752
oh shit it did?
brb
>>82483500
>X-Factor was a mistake
What did Rusty and Skids ever do to you, anon?
>>82483728
Given Bendis' penchant for trials in his X-Men, there's gonna be SOME kind of trial.
I can't imagine they're actually going to make anything stick to Carol after this, they still need her for the movies, so probably some Iron Man style memory wipe shit or it's just the people who supported her who get dumped on.
>>82483741
>Next: IT GETS WORSE
Of course it does. Suddenly I don't feel as bad about my absurd bias towards Reboot.
>>82483770
>CW2 is like 8 issues long
Oh don't worry, CWII will be such a hit that they'll extend it by two or three issues.
>>82483756
Anon, there's some Karla fans here, and that's not it.
It's the fact that she's going full fucking Starscream.
>>82483728
Thanos arrested for killing them both
>>82483780
The kids were alright, and it got better when Simonson came on, but why the fuck do you need to bring back the O5?
>>82483782
He has to make use of all that research he did for Daredevil, dammit!Even if most of that information is out of date because Bendis doesn't do research anymore
>>82483775
>>82483768
so they kill the black dude: that won't make any backlash, nope
>>82483770
And of all things, STandoff could have used another actual issue in there
>>82483782
Carol's already been through two mindwipes, I imagine it happening so often can't be good for her brain.
>>82483756
I kind of think Moonstone should be able to take Bucky to pieces once she gets a read on him, but I'm fine with her doing shit to provoke a reaction.
Who?
>>82483836
I will admit, I am honestly fucking surprised he remembered - or anyone told him - that Carol and Rhodey were supposed to be an item, because that's come up barely ever.
Of course, once he heard it, of course he's gonna be "I KNOW WHAT'S CHEAP AND EASY DRAMA"
>>82483841
>>82483832
And his helicopter gets impounded.
>>82483841
It actually maybe won't, I think there's way more Sam porn than Rhodey porn. If he dies, he's getting the Goliath treatment.
>>82483841
Coates was one of the Civil War 2 architects, they have clearance.
>>82483813
>Bendis has a big #8 issue to hastily wrap everything up
>hmm I don't think we got enough money from that #0 and #1
>let's split that 50 pager into two 30 pagers!
>We can just decompress everything with more copy and pasted panels
>>82483752
Who?
>>82483871
>>82483871
I love it when Asians in comics don't even look Asian.
>>82483917
>>82483565
>surely someone, when this came out, went WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? at them and got a response, right?
I kinda felt like Levitz getting the Legion back was kind of a pity project to keep him busy after WB pushed him out of editorial.
>>82483906
Let's not forget 6-10 double splash pages per comic.
>>82483906
>pages of nothing but blank white
>>82483565
Easily-accessible records for this kind of thing is one of the big reasons I miss letters pages.
>>82483943
oh shit, you can buy Wonder Man in waifu academy
>>82483951
I am 100% sure he has an "always gets a book" clause
>>82483960THE HEART
>>82483960
>Bendis channels his inner Hickman
>Manages to become even worse
>>82483741
What, more offscreen decapitations and subsequent cannibalism? Or does Manos use Manos Junior on one of the lady Legionnaires?
>>82483434
So, Paul and Keith just...don't like Sunboy.
>>82483978
>>82483960
Not even Bendis is Byrne cocky
>>82483978
Oh man that tempts me...
>>82484006
Unpopular opinion: Hickman's diagrams are fucking trash. I'd buy that shit just to piss on it.
>>82483960
Fuck that pissed me off so badly.
Ultimate End was so fucking shit.
>>82483519
Yeah, but it's nice to know that while there's going to be the usual traditional power struggle between Karla and the boss, she's not going to have it easy like people in prior threads were crowing about.
>>82484025
I don't think they dislike him, so much as they have him marked as someone they can kill off without it meaning much.
>>82484031
>>82483871
>wise Asian character preaching about living in harmony with nature~
>"Make them do something!"
>throwing rocks at the people want to help you
Everything on this page is stupid. Everything.
>>82482813
Night Thrasher v. good Ewing is great man, like John Wyclif or Desmond Tutu
>>82484065
There was so many "I like Bendis, but, what the fuck was that?" reactions over Ultimate End.
>>82483833
>why the fuck do you need to bring back the O5?
Because the alternative was the 4 X-Men and Dazzler, and they were wrapping up New Defenders and sending Hank, Warren and Bobby back to Scott in one way or another?
>>82484031
So are the Magic Wars still in continuity or not? Because that seems like the logical comparison.
>>82484097
Awww, Simon's 495 shards
I have 201 because I bought Spider-Woman with things adding up from the ad-watching, because she brings in money really quickly
>>82484103
It feels like we went off the rails hard all of a sudden
>>82484068
Yeah, I dunno. First issues are very GOTTA GO FAST these days, not much room to play around.
>>82484065
Probably the worst thing he's ever written. Or at least top 3
>>82483323
Yeah, but if the transformation into Validus is something that cannot be averted, isn't letting people know it's going to happen far more cruel?
>>82483914
Avengers Academy, the mobile game designed to ruin my life
>>82484037
>Not even Bendis is Byrne cocky
Ultimate End had a white blank double page spread
And the pages leading up to it were double page spreads of copy and pasted panels of character heads that disappeared with each spread
He most certainly is that cocky
Probably why he seems to like Byrne.
>>82484124
Dazzler rocks, nothing wrong with that line up
>>82484127
I think so? But not sure?
>>82483917
Didn't we have this exact disaster when Tinya's mum got shot?
>>82484031
I feel unconvinced that Tasmia isn't at least a little bit excited about things reverting to barbarism. She's the John-Carter-AND-Dejah-Thoris fusion of a warrior shadow planet, I bet she'd rock out as a barbarian.
>>82484215
yes
this feels very, very retread
>>82484124
>the 4 X-Men and Dazzler
What's wrong with that?
>>82483960
Wait, Snowbird is a major player in Civil War 2?
Man, and she isn't even one of Carol's Alpha's.
>>82484243
That fourth panel feels very editable.
>>82484189
Dazzler was a forced meme that no one actually liked. Her creation story's pretty interesting.
>>82484278
See, this just makes me want a Marvel event set around Department H, because then at least everyone dying and being huge assholes would make perfect sense.
>>82484088
>I don't think they dislike him
He is being eaten by cannibals.
>>82484284
oh gosh, it really is
>Legionnaires discover 4chan
>>82482813
>it's a "describe a character in one page" thread
>>82484031
I want to imagine that Shady's version of "barbaric" is like, having to wear full pants or dresses or something. Not the liberated cultured bikinis she usually gets.
>>82484307
Forced yeah, but she's actually great!
>>82484307
I'd still prefer her over retconning Jean out of the some of the best parts of X-Men, and destroying Scott's marriage.
>>82484215
Actually, yes. But at least then, we got to enjoy the sight of Winema writhing in pain and learning to be less of a jerk.
>>82484221
Tasmia Mallor in... Thunderdome!
>>82484343
that's wonderful
>>82484334
So?
>>82484422
RUB IT IN
>>82484343
Can you name a better Trasher? NIGHT THRASHER BEST THRASHER
>>82484243
>>82484284
>>82484338
To be fair though, they'd quickly realize the fact nobody but use ever talks about them here is probably a good thing.
>>82484268
>>82484189
Dazzler is minimally connected to the 05 and would have had to have quit the X-Men to go join the boys in their elaborate mutant hunting to secretly save them scheme.
>>82484406
>we got to enjoy the sight of Winema writhing in pain
You mean you did. Admit it, Tinya's bitchy mom is one of your waifus.
>>82484448
He is actually really fucking good in Contest.
>>82484442
Isn't Jaques supposed to have personality traits outside of "somewhat nice" and "French"?
>>82484442
well, how are you owls tonight?
>>82484321
The Flight system was the Canadian government trying to use all Canada's crazy people with powers. They recruited primarily through mental hospitals!
>>82484567
>>82484567
>Phantom Girl looks at Legion sales figures
>>82484544
Somewhat meek and prone to panic.
>>82484495
We and the two-three people who think Brainy's great grandfather is pretty hot.
>>82484343
Who's red there meant to be?
>>82484514
Is there such a thing as an anti-waifu? Cause I suppose she'd be that.
>>82484544
Yes, but Levitz and Giffen don't really seem to care at the moment.
>>82484567
A lot better before this "cannibal business". This is like 5yl the return....
>>82484597
>>82484567
Okay. I'm trying to buy a house in a market where supply is like, a third of what it should be and I'm probably fucked.
>>82484666
oh gosh, who's going to die horribly NEXT
>>82484567
Pretty tired. I just realized I missed a lot of X-Men one-shots and miniseries right after I finished organizing the entire thing. Kinda discouraging desu
>>82484682
DAMMIT LEVITZ
>>82484284
With the right dimensions it could be a 4chan Banner.
>>82484646
Jeannine Sauvage, Guillotine. Head-lopping hero with a demon sword that is oddly named after a Baudelaire book.
>>82484704
X-canon is so huge there's no way you could get everything
>>82484544
He's been wallpaper'd throughout Retroboot.
>>82484705
No fucking way. Goddammit.
>>82484567
I'm good! I picked up that book you recommended a few nights back but I haven't started on it yet. I couldn't find the rest of the trilogy at all so I don't know what I'll do if I like this one.
>>82484736
excuse me while I go hunt down a beer
>>82484736
Yeah, I think I may skip some stuff. I was already planning to avoid First X-Men and Wolverines anyway.
>>82484705
OVER THE LINE
>>82484567
Fine. Finished reading the second Mistborn book. These books are good, but they frustrate me dude to their length being made up of filler and repetition of points that have been discussed already. Yes, all this political intrigue is fascinating, now can we please get to Vin solving it by beating the shit out of everyone who wants to harm her husbando, please?
>>82484637
Pretty sure that's the same crowd, to be honest.
>>82484705
Man this is certainly a "fuck it, this is over anyway, ROCKS FALLING" arc, innit?
This D&D Group is dying, and the DM is fudging in his favour.
>>82484751
remember fold-out surprise cover month?
WTF, was it?
>>82484567
Nearing the end of my endless LoGH marathon.
>>82484751
>>82484544
No one on earth needs more personality traits than those.
>>82484496
You're right, somebody quitting the X-Men and hanging out with new people is so much more contrived than a dead woman hibernating in a cocoon at the bottom of the sea and someone's wife turning out to be a broodmare harboring the fragmented consciousness of said dead woman and also a cosmic entity's.
>>82484567
Considering taking up a life of crime. Robbing banks cannot be as costly or stressful as getting my car ready to work for Uber.
>>82484784
Is that the deal with this? The art is really jarring me
>>82484791
Can you imagine being a LoGH fan in Japan? In the 80s? Getting your irregular VHS in the mail, waiting forever for the next one...
>>82484784
I can't help but feel like their "champion" is actually "Levitz's amount of caring"
>>82484779
Let me know if the third book is worth the hassle. Still need to finish that series.
On that note. Perdido Street Station is definitely making me want to pick up more Mieville.
>>82484705
Ha ha get fucked
>>82483409
I would disagree, as Busiek doesn't ever get me to care about the characters he writes. >>82483425
>>82484705
>>82484682
You just had to ask.
>>82484704
You have plenty of time.
>>82484784
>>82484851
I'm not a huge Mieville fan but I'll recommend Embassytown, it's super good.
>>82484833
It kinda blows my mind that the series went on as long as it has. And aren't they planning a remake/reboot series of some kind?
>>82484820
>>82484496
Man that X-Factor plot made no sense. The mutants pretending to be people hunting mutants weirdness, then I think Simonson pulled in Mr Sinister keikaku retcons to fix it?
>>82484705
>>82484705
>THOMMMMM!
>YOUR DEATH DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE
>SERIOUSLY, YOUR THING IS GRAVITY
>GRAVITYYYYYY
>>82484343
You forgot the previous page where Elektra/Bullseye goes "It's not the 90's anymore, you cant just say words like 'hack' and 'cyberspace' and make things happen!"
>>82484784
I remember how "Jason Todd's melted face" cover was accidentally spoiled by the artist, his fans got all upset about it, and then they ended up backpedaling and turning that cover into nothing.
>>82484886
now that's a rack
HMM LOOK AT THAT GROUP EDITOR
>>82484886
What the hell are these Legion era buildings made out of that they just start collapsing willynilly just because the power goes out?
>>82484923
>>82484901
Yeah, I know. The explanation of how he hacks vastly more advanced systems is grade a comics bullshit too, but I felt that was the more comprehensive page overall.
>>82484895
Also that the scheme was thought up by Angel's secretly evil, mutant-hating friend.
>>82484930
bullshit and hax
>>82484888
Trips confirm.
>>82484705
This is when I'm pretty sure they just no longer gave a fuck
>>82484923
poor Young Justice group of books, never had a chance
>>82484851
>Let me know if the third book is worth the hassle. Still need to finish that series.
If I remember, I'll do that. I seriously feel like these book would be much better if they were half as long.
>On that note. Perdido Street Station is definitely making me want to pick up more Mieville.
Steampunk, eh? Been wanting to check out some steampunk. This sounds especially my bag, I fucking love magi-tech.
>>82484567
I've finally finished reading the original Power Man & Iron Fist series. Now onto Namor's 90's series, where they retconned what happened to Danny.
>>82484930
Overengineering.
>>82484964
>>82484923
>>82484886
>our brave troops dying in horror, being vaporized, famlies being broken, civilians dying pointless deaths
>time for a repeating eye/i pun
>>82484988
>Namor's 90's series
Also Byrne explains why Namor is dick
>>82484923
WHOA. The Emerald Eye needs Visine, badly.
>>82484930
Maybe the 31st century did the same thing Relic's universe did, and all the buildings are made of non-solid materials.
>>82484975
Let me also try to sell you on Virconium if you're looking for more crumbling, poorly defined fantasy metropoles.
>>82484820
As an impetus to bring the guys back together, and the future cause of Cyclops marriage collapsing, yeah, she's a worse choice. Like "The main antagonist for this X-Men nostalgia book will be the Owl" bad.
X-Factor was really conceptually bad before Wheezy tookover, basically.
>>82484895
>I think Simonson pulled in Mr Sinister keikaku retcons to fix it?
No, she just made Cameron Hodge a villain who was manipulating Warren because Warren is an idiot.
>>82484944
I know, I just think it works better if it goes "Fuck you, you can't do that!" and then he does it anyway.
Because he's Night Thrasher, and fuck you.
I'm European and need to sleep. If you guys reach #22-23 tonight they're horrible and go against pre-52 retroboot canon.
Thank you for tonight frau Storyteller!
>>82485004
The legion needs to be cut out of dc
>>82483434
I don't know what's funnier; the black comedy of this death and defilement, or the reactions being posted to it.
>>82485055
GOOD NIGHT, FRENCHIE
>>82485041
Yeah, I just got past the trial.
Why is Iron Fist being brought up HERE? I mean, Namor has nothing to do with Danny. It'd make more sense for the X-Men, since Claremont worked worked on Danny's solo too, and more importantly they actually know who the fuck he is.
>>82485055
sleep happy eurofriend!
we won't get there tonight
>>82485110
>>82485110
>we won't get there tonight
ohgod
>>82485153
TOmorrow's gonna hurt
>>82484983
>I seriously feel like these book would be much better if they were half as long.
That tends to be a problem with modern fantasy writers. Just don't know when to trim the fat. It's why I'm hesitant to start reading the Malazan series.
>I fucking love magi-tech
Yea, you'll dig Perdido. Mieville toys with concepts that can easily work as standalone stories.
