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It's time to Frank, /co/.
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How do you like your Frank, /co/?
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>>82466090
Bump
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>>82466082
>Frank using two guns and not aiming
THE SIGHTS ARE THERE FOR A REASONS REEEEEE
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>>82466038
>A woman without a Frank face

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...?
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>>82466013
Thanks you frank
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>>82466013
Oh shit, I didn't realise this was out today
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>>82466167
See you next month.
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>>82466167
thanks for the edge, op
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>no Frank turning into a schoolgirl
Damnit Cloonan.
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>>82466033
It's already so clear where this is going
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>>82466153
>bodies not laid out into a skull
One job guys, one job
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Dillon is making a good effort to vary up the Franks here.
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>>82466167
Is that a meta commentary by Dillon on his sameface problem?
Anyway this issue was not too bad, but let's hope the writing will improve
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>it's actually drawn by Dillon
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bump, now this was good, though i did like the frank in LA series this is still nice.
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>>82466233
Did you think the writing was bad? I thought it was pretty standard Punisher fare.
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Is Dillon actually putting effort into this?

His art has gone from dramatically terrible to maybe tolerable.

I mean, there isn't even a Frank here>>82466056.
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>>82466184
>no Frank turning into a magical girl
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>>82466291

Well, there's Black Frank, but I agree, this seems a lot less Frank than his other recent works.
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It's OK but cloonan needs to lay off on profanity if she knows it doesn't make it to print. Otherwise it reads trying too hard to be mature but pandering to 13 years old. In other words, amateurish.
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>>82466291
I wander if Cloonan just told him to get his shit together.
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>>82466082
Dillon is a true auteur of the comics world.
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The Frank face is an style choice, it's to represent how Frank sees the world.
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>>82466291
I'd imagine he's aware of the meme.

When faced with criticism you have two choices:

Do a Dobson and cry and whine about it all while taking a "no, it's the internet that's wrong" approach

or

Nut the fuck up, accept that people aren't saying you're an absolute dog shit artist, but that you have a problem with frankface and try and improve your craft
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>>82466265
"It's me, Olaf" is terrible
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>>82466133
oh come on, he couldn't stretch his arms to use the sights if he wanted to there
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>>82466107
You can burst someones eyes with your thumbs that's fine, but lord knows you can't swear

Marvel.
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>>82466642
>by killing all these Franks he is trying to kill the man who couldn't save his family, the monster he became and all this self-hatred
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>>82466173
So we have the old commanding officer, and the next issue has a scene in a diner.

Cause that's stuff that happened in Daredevil, geddit?
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>>82466133
To be fair, he's could touch them with the barrel of the guns if he wanted. Aiming isn't THAT important there
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>>82466023
>dat description at the top

I can already tell this is gonna suck.

They really need to get back to making Frank an antihero and stop beating us over the head with "HE'S FRANKING CRAZY, GUYS! WHAT A PSYCHO AMIRITE?"
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>>82466642
>>82466752
Kek
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Why not just go full MAX if they're gonna put a "parental advisory" on the cover? It's barely R-rated level content and probably wouldn't be if not for like one scene.
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This dialogue sucks.
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>>82466202
Yeah, I noticed that too.
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>>82466173
Thanks OP
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What else has this writer done?
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>>82466123
>Assholes

Surprised that actually wasn't censored.
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>>82466023
>10 motherfucking variant covers, 11 covers in total.
Marvel is gonna crash the industry again. For fuck's sake.
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Fuck this dialogue really sucks.
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>>82466069
>It got historic significance or something? That the gun that killed Lincoln?
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>>82466545

Why would he listen to her? He's been the industry far longer than she has and has worked with far bigger writers.
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This coloring is shit
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>>82466888
Gotham Academy, she's an artist primarily.
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Don't know what it is, but this isn't that engaging somehow. Definitely one of the less interesting Punisher stories I've encountered.
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>>82466916
>why would anyone listen to criticism
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>>82466013
>Dillon
Heheheh no. No thank you
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>>82466082
FUCK THAT IS SUCH A CRINGEY LINE.
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>>82466899
Isn't that justifiable for the first issue in a new run of a well-known character? DK3 had like 6,000.
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>>82466086
Is this the drug from All-New Ghost Rider?
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>not liking Dillon
>>>out
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>>82466167
WTF is the point of this shit?
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From 0 to Frank how do you rate this comic ?
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>>82467074
One and a half Franks
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Dialogue's way too wordy and the last page seems like it's trying to out-edge pic related. Maybe it'll get bettter.
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>>82466752
Woah... Dillon deeper than Morrison now?
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>>82467070
>Stop making fun ot the faces I draw RRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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This reminds me of Aaron's Punisher except PG-13 (or light R), i.e. you can tell it was written by someone who read a single issue of Punisher MAX and thought "PUNISHER = EDGE, SO I'LL JUST MAKING EVERYTHING EDGY". It's such an artificial copy of what Marvel THINKS people liked about Ennis' Punisher with none of the actual quality.
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CBR Interview with Cloonan on this issue + B&W pages from the next issue: http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/cloonans-punisher-violent-bullet-riddled-bleeding-good-time
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>>82466927
That book is hipster trash. No wonder this sucks. No hipster could ever understand The Punisher.
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>>82466955
> not muh ennis
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>>82467151
>abloo bloo muh ennis envy
fuck off Cloonan
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This is irredeemable shit and yet it's still Marvel's second least shitty book after Moon Knight.
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>That book is hipster trash
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>>82467170
Everything by ennis was full of lines like this. But that wasn't written by him so let's pretend that it's shit
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>>82466061

>ZOOM
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>>82467237
No. No it wasn't. Not even close. Ennis' dialogue is so human and natural that not even Alan Moore could write conversational dialogue with that much personality.
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>>82467130
>says she's a fan of fagtion's War Journal

...

... fuck this is going to SUCK.
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>>82466086
>>82466090

Reminds me of the story where Frank had to resort to power armor to fight bangers hopped up on a new, experimental form of PCP.
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>>82467322
>Ennis' dialogue is so human and natural that not even Alan Moore could write conversational dialogue with that much personality
dude, c'mon.
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>>82467144
>That book is hipster trash.
Off yourself mate.
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>>82467344
Unlike most pampered middle-class writers, Ennis grew up in working class conditions so he knows what normal people are like.
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>>82467322
Whole punisher max was about other characters talking about how deep and tragic frank is
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>>82467412
Ennis pls
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>>82467412
> knows what normal people are like
Perfect killing machines and comedic reliefs?
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Wow, this fucking blows. The dialogue is clunky and everyone is an asshole. Too much trying to ape Ennis too (the part about the M1911 esp)

The script must be fairly shitty too, the action suffers from being overly elaborate and poorly paced.

Dillon's art is tolerable and surprisingly better than usual, but still suffers from being static and uninspired. The colourist does a nice job though, some of the best work I've seen on Dillon's stuff.

Bring back Edmonson and Gerad's tacticool Punisher pls
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>>82466189
What is happening? I'm still not sure from the first two pages other than drug trafficking using the military
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>>82467451
Don't forget unoffensive douchebags who have their lives thoroughly ruined for inhabiting one of Ennis's pet peeves.
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>>82467344
If you disagree with even one word of what they typed go read Hitman (or even just Punisher MAX) and then come back here and try to tell us with a straight face that Ennis isn't the best character writer in comics.
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>>82467419
No it wasn't. You didn't even read it.
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>>82467479
>the part about the M1911 esp

THIS. That was SUCH a wannabe-Ennis moment.
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>>82467517
Hitman? It's literally about bunch of perfect Mary Sues who loved by everyone and then they all die because drama
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How does this compare to the Edmonson run? Better or worse?
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>>82467556
I can't even count the number of words you used wrong in this sentence.
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>>82467556
Kill yore self boy
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>>82467567
You can't compare a 20+issue run against one issue, anon. Cloonan's #1 sucked but I'll give the next few issues a chance

I just looked over Edmonson's #1 and it's a completely different book. Frank is less of a caricature of himself and already displays a relationship with another, there's a good sense of humour, it's well researched and all-round looks better art-wise. The violence is much more gratifying too
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>>82467533
It was. In first arc Micro was talking about how deep, dangerous and tragic frank is. Then that british guy from sas or whatever implied that only frank must punish criminals because he s deep dangerous and tragic in the end of irish kitchen. Then in third arc nick fury told to generals that frank deep dangerous and tragic so don't fuck with him. Then russian fat guy was amazed by how deep dangerous and tragic frank is. Et cetera
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>>82466865
This. Christ it's barely readable.
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>>82466974
Nah that drug was a pill and literally hulk ed you put and turned you blue
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>>82467646
>shit that never happened
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>>82467646
You are literally autistic if you think this dialogue is anything like Ennis'.
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>>82466167
Isn't this taken from Preacher, except done "edgier and cooler"?
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>>82467806
Well then it's you who didn't read it. Or you was reading that shit with Kingpin
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>>82467835
There is now way it's edgier than preacher
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>>82467823
Of course, there's no Ennis name on cover so it's automatically bad and nothing like him
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>>82467864
I'm comparing these two face-cutters. The Preacher face-cutter was pretty "tame" IIRC. He certainly didn't hang the faces on his bedroom wall or talk like a "badass".
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>>82467895
Well he's nailed cutted off faces to living people. That's far more edgier for me
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What the fuck is the point of character swearing if they wanna censor it? I hate this type of ''family friendly edge'' either make the guy actually say fuck or don't make him swear at all what is this idiotic half measure.
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>>82467918
Oh right, he did do that. Oh well. Nevermind. I still prefer him over this new guy. Original face cutter 4 lyfe.

What was his name again? The Reaver Cleaver?
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>>82467941
Yeah, it's okay if censored swearing comes up once or twice an issue but all the fucking time is a joke and it comes off as childish
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>>82467941
Gotta have those kiddies buying the comics.
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>>82466715
Frank let it go. Your family is dead do you want to shoot a snowman instead?
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>>82466082
>shoving the barrel of your M4 up the bullet hole it just made is a 10/10 tactical choice
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>>82468374
Soon Punisher won't even be shooting people. He'll just stab and put guns inside them.
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>>82468374
holy shit
didn't notice
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>>82466082
cringe
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>>82466167
Hi poor man Preacher
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>>82466167
Yeah this was terrible
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>can show R-rated gore and violence
>still can't swear
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>>82466960
you sure it wasn't over 9000?
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mfw I checked that panel again
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Comics either need swearing uncensored or stop writing swears in the dialogue because I'm sick of seeing this $*@%
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>>82468790
If they have to censor it then I prefer f--k, c--t etc., but there's probably a reason they're not going that route.
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>>82468841
They don't want to upset soccer moms their kids who hear swear words every day in real life are exposed to vulgar language in a comic about mentally unstable guy killing criminals.
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>>82466916
Not everyone has an inflated ego
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>>82468885
>mentally unstable
Frank is as mentally stable as you could get. The man is in a completely stable mental equilibrium: he could go for decades without changing his mental state. No depression and no elation, just 100% 24/7 operator mode.
It's a bad place to be in, but it's stable as f--k.
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>>82468374
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>another shitty Punisher series that will be cancelled and resterted along new even/crossover/restart

Whats the point?
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>>82469081
Getting those sweet, sweed DD hype dollars
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I wanna know what Kind Storyteller thinks of this.
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>>82468374

>not Frank/10
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>>82469393
I've yet to see someone who liked this issue, so...
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>>82466712

He can do other faces, check the first few issues of Preacher, he was obviously taking some care at the beginning. Near the end it was all frankface 90% of the time. But the man hits deadlines, even if he has to frank his way out of them
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>>82468414
sound Punisher enough
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>>82466086
Wait wasn't there something just like this in Mad Max: Fury Road?
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>>82470208
the silver spray before they did something daring and death-defying
not an actual power-up though.
just ritualistic bullshit

>Whitnessed
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>>82466086
Are you feeling it now, Mr. Krabs?
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>>82466033
Is the villain just Arsenio Hall?
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POSTING VARIANT COVERS.

Some of them oddly don't even have Frank.
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>>82470409
What the fuck is that shit?
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>>82470389
Fuck yeah! Based Bradstreet
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>>82470424
>Having a completely different character on the cover
This does not bode well for me.
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>>82470409
>>82470409
are we talking Xmen Apocalypse?
doesn't he only use mutants?

please tell me Frank wasn't retconned into a Mute
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>>82470475
Final variant.
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>>82470438
This is the worst action figure variant yet, it doesn't look like a figure at all and the face is just a very poorly drawn Jon Bernthal.
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>>82470476
Look down.
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>>82470517
Yeah, it's a Punisher comic with Captain America on it.
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>>82470542
He meant the stamp commemorating 75 years of Cap, every comic will have a Cap variant this month.

They could at least show Cap and Frank together, they have history. Hell, show Frank in his terrible TERRIBLE Captain America costume.
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>>82470621
Ah, that makes more sense.
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>>82466082
How do you kill that which does not live?
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>>82470475
Skottie Young gets paid mad money to put out this half-assed shit
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>>82470729
>Skottie Young gets paid mad money to put out this half-assed shit

Skottie Young knows how to draw more than 1 different face.
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>>82470763
He doesn't have any faces
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>>82470763
So? His cancerous Baby variants are some of the most unimaginative shit I've seen
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>>82470645
No, I meant keep scrolling through the thread.
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>>82468374
Pretend I'm an idiot - why is this so hilarious and wut-worthy?
I mean, it's probably really obvious, but I know nothing about guns, violence, or common sense.
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>>82470877
I dunno man. It does look stupid as fuck but I didn't expect this good reception. I wasn't trying to pull a superjoke
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>>82470877
whether you know about guns or not, anon, it's a very retardded move

if you put a gun inside someone you only weight yourself down, for no use at all

also, I don't think the artist intended it to look like it does. it's probably just a perspective fail
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>>82470877
>Pretend I'm an idiot - why is this so hilarious and wut-worthy?

Can you imagine a trained shoulder shooting stabbing someone up close with the barrel of their assault rifle?
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>>82471219
>trained shoulder
I don't know if that was intentional or not. But I laughed anyway.
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>>82466291
>>82466056


Black dude on the right has frank face.
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>>82467308
IT WAS ME, FRANK!
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>>82466023
>>82466026

Jesus, Dillon started putting in effort again? Didn't think I'd see the day.
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>>82466233
Of course it is. He named a guy 'face' and has a guy that literally skins faces and puts them on his wall.

These people use the same internet as the rest of us.
Interestingly, this issue had less sameface than usual. The art was actually pretty good.
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>>82472092
Coloring was very boring and shit though.
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>>82470491
Great cover.

And yeah, no surprises here, very mediocre if not bad.

Ennis run will remain the best punisher work for the following years it seems.
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>>82466076
His hand in the bottom middle frame
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>>82466133
Im more bothered that the guns swap hands every other panel
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>>82470460
What the fuck is the point?
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>>82472301
Has Dillon had good coloring since Preacher?
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>CBRFags actually think this is good
JUST
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I don't get the abstract hate, this just seems like a really average Punisher issue to me
>already dead
Was cringey but otherwise, nothing out of bounds
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I get that Dillon is a classic Punisher artist but the only good he did was with Ennis, he wasn't what made the MK Punisher great. Why put him on what I assume is an attempt to cash in on the huge popularity of DD Frank? Wouldn't you want the comic to be good?
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>>82474245
I think the dialogue was awkward.
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>>82466082
The hair bothers me, but otherwise he looks pretty good!
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>>82466056
>looks at third panel
LOOK OUT, FACE IS RIGHT THERE IN THE ROOM WITH YOU!
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>>82475246
RACIST!
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I didn't like it. Probably because Frank is a mute and we don't hear his inner dialogue. I don't give a fuck about any of these people. I wanna know Frank's plan of attack and strategy. I don't wanna see an emotionally blank man systematically scowling and killing, because that's all flash and no substance. Give us a real reason to hate these people so that Frank's methods seem justified in a sense. This is just boring.
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>>82467340

What was wrong with it?
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Meh. It's okay and I'm glad Dillon's trying, but I want more MAX and I'm not going to get that. I'd also be happy with more Solid Frank, but I'm not going to get that either.
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>>82475689
Buckle up for recycling of themes from the Netflix show a la Guardians of the Galaxy for the foreseeable future.
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>>82475784

Netflix Frank was written better than this.
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>>82475836
And movie Guardians were written better than Bendis Guardians, it's pretty much the exact same thing. The comics becoming a watered down version of it's more successful adaptation.
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>>82475867
Bendis?
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>>82466133
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_shooting

Good dubs
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Wow, Dillon really stepped up his game on this, I'm really glad. It's always a pleasure to see artists get better and better.
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this was really bland and with shit art
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>>82477425
Agreed
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Dillon has really stepped his game up, not to Preacher levels but this is real good
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>>82479970
Are you implying Preacher had good art?
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>>82466825
How the fuck does it say that? It's literally just a summary of his origin story, you mongoloid.
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>>82469863
Hell, check out his work in 2000AD.
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>>82482097

I read a Dredd prog with his art in it and was amazed when I couldn't recognize who the artist was until I saw his name.

I wonder what happened. Does he usually get pushed for deadlines or something?
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