What's the point of him again?
Being lewd
>>82441933
When Sugar pitched the show to CN they were only greenlighting shows with little boy protags
>>82441933
He's the heart of the group.
The chubby heart.
Love
>>82441978
So now that the show is a success, why keep him there anymore?
>>82442000
Because hes the heart of the show that brings it all together. All the gems interactions revolve around steven being the protagonist. Like it or not.
Also you used that same image to make your boring mary sue type character thread a few days ago.
>>82441976
>obese kid
>lewd
Nigga what?
>>82442175
>not peedee
Steven universe is a good example of when the show would be better without the main character
>>82442228
You know you'd think with how they introduced peedee to be a close friend eith steven, he eould have more screen time but no ronaldo fucks shit up.
>yfw Steven dies and Rose comes back permanently from his gem
>>82441933
rose needed a way for the humans to fuse the gems as some sort of defense from the diamonds.
at the end of the series there will be a battle between all the humans of beach city fused with steven versus the fusion of the diamonds.
>>82442332
That sounds stupid. You're stupid.
To be the crux of exploring the gems issues with over-attachment and seeing what the weight of his mother's legacy does to him and his relationships
>>82442228
>annoying voice
>depressing
I want to be with a positive person like Steven, not a downer like Peedee.
>>82442450
Nailed it.
/thread
>>82442379
and don't forget, you're stupid!
>>82441933
To be smart, funny and kind, and encourage the show's target audience to be likewise. And to annoy the piss out of edgelords.
To provide a unique situation within the show that warrants him being the MC, while providing the show's perspective of being a human raised by gems who kept him intentionally in the dark about a lot of things. This allows for the audience to ease into the show's world as they learn about things at the same rate as Steven, and provides for a more genuine feeling of shock at various revelations and twists, as Steven is largely just as lost as the audience.
>>82442332
That feel when the characters clearly also believe in the back of their minds that might be what would happen.
>>82442259
Fucking this. Why is Steven even around; just kill him off.
>>82442338
>humans
Fuck the humans. I want the Gems to take down the Diamonds after the Diamonds nuke humanity.
>>82442064
>Also you used that same image to make your boring mary sue type character thread a few days ago.
That's a perfect description for Steven.
>>82442528
>And to annoy the piss out of edgelords.
>Wanting another boring morally righteous "hero" as the MC.
You must really like Captain America then.
He'd be fine if they didn't give him a "Phantom of The Opera" nose.
>>82441985
>>82441990
>>82442064
Peridot would make a much better heart than Steven though.
>>82442870
But anon, how else would tumblr identify with him?
>Post best gem
>>82442870
I've actually come up with a couple of nose redesigns for Steven.
>>82442911
There's no such thing.
>>82442450
This.
What's the point of him again?
>>82442779
Connie is more of a Mary Sue than Steven.
>>82443414
Connie is an actual character with flaws.
Steven is just a wish fulfillment fantasy.
>>82441933
Supposedly he shows land beasts are people too or some nonsense.
>>82443414
Neither of them are Mary Sues.
>>82443468
>implying the show isn't mary sue universe
>>82443462
How? If anything, he does the opposite.
>>82443442
Steven actually has a pretty big flaw in terms of trusting others. For example, he almost got himself killed when he first talked Peridot over the monitor in Marble Madness, and almost royally fucked things up by tipping off Homeworld that the Crystal Gems were still alive.
>>82443442
>Connie is an actual character with flaws.
>Steven is just a wish fulfillment fantasy.
Haha. This is the first time I've heard that, and not the other way around.
Both of them have flaws though.
>>82443553
Steven also makes a lot of sacrifices for the sake of others to the point where it's unhealthy.
He bottles up way too much and needs to vent soon before he explodes.
Do people in this thread even know what a "Mary Sue" is? Jesus Christ...
he's there to empower connie and she can look competent
>>82443740
This. He's just a mouthpiece for feminist propaganda.
>>82443515
I said supposedly.
>>82443553
>>82443641
>headcanons
>>82443921
>i've never watched the show, but i like to shitpost
So, anyone believe this?
>>82442911
I don't know anon I think they're all pretty great
>>82442911
ok
to be one of the worst main character designs ive ever seen
>>82444100
He's the worst main character period.
>>82441933
Aside from being the main character and being one of the protagonists, he's there to be a bridge between Gems and humans. It's still not clear or certain whether he was created for any particular purpose other than for Rose's love for Greg, and her love for the other Gems.
Either way, the Earth would've been doomed without Steven, as it's thanks to him that they found out about the Cluster.
>>82444100
Eh, he's fine. He can even look cute sometimes.
you're all mad cuz you all will never get to see your gem waifu
>>82444150
>Either way, the Earth would've been doomed without Steven, as it's thanks to him that they found out about the Cluster.
That's wrong though. If anything, Earth's fucked thanks to him.
>>82444100
he looks exactly how a real kid is supposed to look like
>>82442911
Good thing this is a thread about him.
>>82444297
No, Dipper is how a real kid is supposed to look like.
>>82444265
Earth's fucked thanks to Rose Quartz's rebellion,not him
>>82444307
>Steven
>best gem
He's not even top 10.
>>82444265
How? If it weren't for him, they would have never found out about the cluster, and then the Earth would have been blown up. But thanks to him, they now have a chance to save the Earth.
>>82444314
Dipper looks like a Tumblr nosed chipmunk faced 40 year old.
>>82444314
I'm saying in genetic terms,He's the perfect mix between Greg and Rose's design
In other words,he has the same skin tone and hair color as Greg,and the same loving personality and curly hair as his mother
>>82444331
>>82444385
The Gems would have discovered the Cluster anyways.
It's Steven's fault that the Homeworld Gems are invading.
>>82444314
Dipper is thirteen years old, but literally a third of the height of a sixteen year old. His head makes up over half his body mass and his limbs are thin tubes, like a rag dolls.
>>82444341
He's my best Gem, I find him relatable, and I think that he's grown a lot during the show's run. He's got a lot of pressure under him, with bigger and more dangerous threats on the horizon, and yet he's able to keep his childhood-like innocence while still understanding the gravity of the situation and that he needs to improve himself. That's why he's my best Gem.
>>82444209
typical "forced reaction face" where it goes right back to normal like 5 seconds later. it's like these talentless fucks just know that /co/mblr will screencap it, make it a shitty reaction image, and post it all over the board including in threads where no one wants to see it.
>>82444297
real kids arent fat with a crystalized umbilical hernia, a CalArts tumor growing out the side of their face, and a stiff hairstyle that look like someone just lazily took a circular brush, put it at size 500 and pressed it five times around his head.
actually, all the characters on this show have this problem, too much thinking about "muh silhouettes" without actually putting any heart into the design or giving it any sign of life. just a bunch of plastic dolls.
>>82444470
>The Gems would have discovered the Cluster anyways.
How? If it weren't for Steven and his insistence in Warp Tour, they would have never found out about Peridot, and then they would have never found out about the control panel in the Kindergarten, and then they would have never discover the Cluster. At most they'd just wonder what the hell the fusion experiments wandering around are, with no explanation.
>>82441933
>What's the point of him again?
To rhyme with "believe in."
>>82444537
FUCKING THIS
Why don't people recognize this?
>>82444537
It's called a cartoon,a lot of kids in cartoon have the same head shame as his
Just like the hair,it's supposed to be stylized
>>82444470
Yeah you're right. They would have discovered it.
Once it would start to emerge. Oh no wait that means they would be too late. Oops
>>82444493
>There I posted it. Do I get my $0.50 now Miss Sugar.
>>82444493
This.
>>82444610
Hi tumblr.
>>82441933
Being the main character
Providing harmony/morale to the team
Fulfilling his mother's legacy
Terminating the cluster
>>82444537
You know it's just a cartoon, and that they have no obligation to look lifelike at all, right?
>>82444641
>>82443334
>>82443600
Is this who we call shitposter-kun?
>>82444707
Explain Archer and Moonbeam City then.
Dumbass.
>>82444720
Indeed it is anon. Just ignore him, he has severe mental problems
>>82444720
>rightfully call someone out on their shilling.
>it's a shitposter!
>>82444752
Either that or he's getting paid. Or both. We just don't know.
>>82444747
Please reread my post. They are not obliged to look realistic at all, it's all down to the style of the show. Some shows look more realistic while others choose not to, and either way it's fine.
SU has chosen to not take that much of a realistic style, and that's just fine, and fits with the magic/tech themes of the show.
>>82444849
Translation: Stop criticizing the CalArts tier designs of my favorite show!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>82444881
I never said that, stop putting words into my mouth.
>>82444707
im not saying it needs to be life-like. im saying it needs to have "life". it needs to have moving parts. characters like star butterfly, lincoln loud, timmy turner, gumball, spongebob, etc, these aren't "life-like" but they routinely express themselves in cartoony ways, contort and show emotion and elasticity, without just "anime googley star eyes" or other lazy tricks.
if i wanted to watch a stiff plastic action figure fucking around on screen id watch arby and the chief.
>>82444799
>claiming anyone who says anything positive about anything is a shill
>not shitposting
>>82441978
I don't believe you.
>>82444493
You tell 'em anon. Believe in Steven
>>82444817
Jesus fucking christ
>>82444920
Sugar is a hack anon; she doesn't know how to animate cartoons.
>>82444307
That's a pretty cool design senpai.
Anyway, best gem is BY FAR Pearl (she's literally perfect), but I don't get how it's possible to dislike Steven unless you're some sad fucker who spends way too much time inside a little room.
>>82444920
Blame the outsourced animation for that, I guess. I think it's pretty good, it conveys just the amount of emotion that it needs to and it doesn't feel like it goes overboard.
>>82444943
Good for you anon because I made it up
>>82444920
Sadly, this is what happens when women are in charge of cartoons.
>>82444034
>Gems bring back bubbles
>Gems are "as good as dead"
>no explanation given
You'd think the Gems getting their asses handed to them would merit being part of a spoiler.
>>82444817
>HURR I HAVE TO WAIT LIKE 3 MONTHS FOR A CARTOON WHEN WILL THE HIATUS ENNNNNNNNND
god i fucking hate this crap so much. is this just telling of the current ADHD ladled generation or what? pretty much every show on television airs a season then takes a year or sometimes more "hiatus". its been part of television since forever. thats why you find OTHER THINGS TO WATCH rather than just tying yourself to one mediocre cartoon. this is why current modern CN is such cancer, they're literally mass producing low quality CalArts cartoons out of a korean sweatshop airing them in non-stop bursts besides a few months downtime and that still isn't enough.
>>82444034
The warp to watermelon island gets broken during the Malachite fight, not before. It was in the leaked promo. So no.
>>82445073
>>82445156
Neat pasta
So is he going to redeem Jasper or not?
>>82445238
Yes.
>>82445238
Nope. He's going to bubble Jasper and free Lapis.
Cap this.
>>82445061
Pearl no.1 mom confirmed
>>82445355
You really think they'll just ignore her instead of trying to develop her character? I think Steven will try to understand her. Whether he succeeds or not is another matter.
Stop replying to shitposterkun damn it. Its so obvious when its him posting
>>82445524
Pearl is a shit mom
Garnet is the undisputed best mom
>>82445605
Nope. It's been confirmed; Jasper is too far gone to be redeemed.
>>82445355
NO!
>>82445706
True facts
>>82443553
It was his mistake but the crystal gems just accepted it without making him feel guilty.
>Living over 5000 years under the safety of homeworld not knowing their existence
>Steven shows his face to peridot for no apparent reason
>Oh Steven
>>82443553
To be fair, the Crystal gems could've prevented most of those issues by just telling him everything.
>>82445722
Source?
>>82445706
>>82445725
She's a better parent than Greg tbqh.
>>82445794
He's just bullshitting
>>82445802
Garnet didn't raise Steven when he was still just a baby, Greg did.
>>82445794
An intern leaked it yesterday.
>>82443553
>For example, he almost got himself killed when he first talked Peridot over the monitor in Marble Madness and almost royally fucked things up by tipping off Homeworld that the Crystal Gems were still alive
To be fair of he hadn't done any of that then the gems would never know about the Cluster
His trust in people usually pays off in the long run.
>>82445804
I figured as much
>>82445802
Don't diss Greg, he was basically a single parent for most of Steven's life and is still there for Steven whenever he needs him
>>82445833
Hey I work at CN too and I say that Lapis is going to work at the pizza place.
>>82445791
True, but the Crystal Gems have consistently shown that they don't feel that Steven's really ready for most of the info regarding the war, homeworld, where gems come from, and at that point that he was even capable of going on more dangerous missions. They have a combined flaw of consistently underestimating Steven, which has come back to bite them in the ass more than once.
In any case, there must be something pretty messed up about everything if they're so adamant on keeping so much information secret from Steven.What we really are.
>>82445816
And Steven is the worst for it.
Greg a shit.
>>82445865
No, he's a deadbeat that gives nonsense advice and mooches of him.
Garnet is the only one there for Steven.
>>82441933
To pee outside, because hurr durr, that's what boys do.
>>82442332
>Rose
Burnett confirms that she died
https://twitter.com/mcburnett/status/727550367697764352
>>82445896
Greg tries his best man
>>82446152
And it's not good enough. He should try taking a note from Garnet's playbook.
>>82446146
>trusting Matt on anything
>>82446394
>trusting Matt
Does anyone know if Britanon did a vocaroo about the last 4 episodes already? I was a bit offline these last few days
>>82442064
But he's not even the protaganist. He's the jester.
>>82446461
He's disappeared for a bit it seems. Maybe he's holding off so he doesn't have to wait as long for new episodes.
>>82446507
This. Take out Steven and nothing would change.
>>82446458
I'm not a straight male?
>>82446579
Then SU is perfect for you!
>>82446508
Alright thanks for the heads up
>>82442228
I wish they bring more of him
>>82446458
I think this was a pretty immature response. There's tons of ways that he could've responded to this while keeping a civil tone.
Actually, he doesn't need to, because Rebecca already answered it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkVo3eT9dMA
Around the 32:00 mark.
>>82446629
Who cares what Sugar says though?
>>82446603
You're damn right it is.
>>82446458
>all men have to be super masculine
Christ almighty, Burnett. Use your brain for a second
>>82446665
He's an emasculated nu male; it explains why Steven is such a puss.
>>82444920
I'd imagine Gumball is very expensive. I think there are many episodes of SU that are quite "lifeless", but it's definitely not ALL that. Garnet/Pearl's dance sequence was nice, and Garnet's Universe had some nice parts as well.
Most of the praise for this show comes from the music and the background art anyway, which I consider a decent compensation for the lackluster animation.
>>82446629
>>82446458
I'm surprised people are taking this in a bad light now. Back when he posted that anons were laughing because it was funny, since he was obviously jesting, as he usually does on his twitter.
>>82446458
I still don't understand this response. Is he a misogynist or not?
>>82446665
Yeah, if only Burnett looked at all those tons of examples of men in media which would still prove his point.
So, is it gonna happen?
>>82447067
Even if he was, some people were dissatisfied with the tweets. A simple "no" or at least a "no, but you can feel free to make male Gems yourselves" would be great, but instead he acted incredibly smug about it.
>>82447241
Well, grow a thicker skin.
>>82447131
I can totally see that happening
>>82447241
I remember he deleted his tumblr because people threw a fit over his responses on Garnet's third eye when they complained about it being offensive or something
They don't have any obligation to answer the fan questions, so it's silly to get mad or offended.
I'm glad Rebecca only uses her twitter for promotional stuff and artwork, since I'm sure she gets a shitload more questions from fans.
>>82441978
>>82442259
>>82443499
>>82444537
>>82444968
>>82445073
>>82445238
He better not. I don't want every single villain to join the CGs
>>82446508
I saw him just a few days ago. I didn't save anything he posted, though
>>82447406
C'mon dude, just replying with that image over and over to anyone that says anything negative about SU isn't going to do anything.
>>82445605
>You really think they'll just ignore her instead of trying to develop her character?
For now, yeah. They've got too much shit on their plate to start a Jasper redemption arc.
>>82447431
So what are they just going to wander around the earth then? Worked so well for Peridot
I've got to say, I really don't see Steven redeeming Jasper. Admittedly I was wrong about Peridot. She's a dorky civil servant who was too naive to understand she might be wrong
With Jasper the situation is just so much different. She's older, her prejudices are deeper, she's never depicted as a nuisance or in a position of weakness. Even after being crushed under the entire ocean and forced into an abusive relationship she was still terrifying to both the viewers and steven. At her absolute lowest she still managed to be forceful and hypocritical. I think if anyone exists to show Steven isn't always right, it's her
>>82447131
The mirror shattered when steven removed lapis, so no.
>>82447320
And then Steven will pull it out, she'll be trapped for like half hour
>>82447557
Doesn't mean she can't make a new one yo.
>>82447289
I just think Matt could've responded to that question way, way better than he did.
>>82447376
I still think that he should maintain some level of responsibility, and carefully pick & choose what words he uses when he answers fan questions, and what fan questions he answers.
I tried to make Pearl.
Rapiers, Spears and Crystal Magic.
>>82447509
I'm trying to get people to realize that the haters are worse than the fandom
>>82447604
The gems don't make gem objects, they use bubbles.
It should probably be noted that gem objects are kind of weird. We know that real gems are used as power sources, but they don't really seem to be alive in there. it's implied, if not explicitly stated that most embedded gems have gone full-kars and lost their sentience
The question is what those objects are used for. Are they prisons or a form of burial for corrupted gems that utilizes their ambient power
>>82447682
Fucking pearl I'm gonna go make amethyst now fuck you
>>82447752
Damn, playing Souls with whips only is going to suck.
>>82447682
Looks like the Wii Fit woman.
>>82447557
>With Jasper the situation is just so much different.
This, and too many of her fans approach it from a meta perspective and not from one of the characters', particularly Steven. Unless Jasper is going to shout some really vague line just before she gets poofed like Peridot did, he has no reason to want to un-bubble her.
>>82447712
Half of those didn't even warrant a response
>>82444493
Picture source?
>>82447771
No man I got this, its fine
>>82447779
Steven is all about understanding so he'll try to reach Jasper.
Guys fucking purple is a hard color apparently
>>82447778
yeah, you can't really make cartoonish features in DS
>>82447928
do what i did - take a picture of Amethyst into photoshop or something then get the RGB values of her colour.
>>82448014
Damn, thats a really good idea, if I had photoshop. But thanks anon!
>>82442528
>smart
>>82447886
Even Steven has his limits, he has honestly NO reason to break Jasper out of the bubble. There'd be nothing stopping her from knocking him out again and going on a rampage.
It's like Jasperfags refuse to see how dangerous she is.
>>82448108
He got 102% on a test, anon. The kid is a genius.
>>82447779
The meta perspective matters, but there's more to the meta perspective than "I want this to happen"
Jasper is a threat. Unlike Lapis she's not misunderstood and unlike peridot she's seen humanity and doesn't give a rats ass about them: they're half-sized creatures that are too fragile to fight and too stupid to be of use.
Lapis and Peridot see steven with confusion, but Jasper is revolted by his very existence
>>82441933
Cure the fucking corrupted gems OMG!
But first survive/stop the Homeworld gems.
>>82447612
that's true, both Matt and Ian seem to like cherry picking easy questions to make fun of
>>82448115
So Jasper's just going to stay bubbled forever then? Sure great plotline
>>82448184
>So Jasper's just going to stay bubbled forever then?
No, in fact I'm pretty positive she's going to get redeemed too, just not any time soon, and that Steven won't go behind the gems' backs to break her out of the bubble. It would be a new level of stupidity and naivety even for him.
>>82447779
>he has no reason to want to un-bubble her
That's not true. It's entirely in-character for Steven to strive to redeem everyone in the show. I'd like to see him interact with Jasper and look for the good in her, or at least try to.
>>82448245
>It's entirely in-character for Steven to strive to redeem everyone in the show
But he has to WANT to redeem them, that's the important factor here. Jasper hasn't given him any reason to want to help her.
>>82443383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUEWoUqv0nc
Why are people trying to argue with anyone talking something positive about SU? It's a Steven universe thread, of course there's going to be people loving the show.
>>82444493
>He's got a lot of pressure under him
And given long enough, he'll become adiamondI know that's not how that works
>>82448262
Sadly, I can't get long enough hair, and I have no clue what to do for her outfit.
So, bets on the diamonds powers?
>White: Perfected hard-light holograms (pretty certain)
>Yellow: Gem disruption or fire (uncertain)
>Blue: Water and ice bending like every other blue court member (certain)
>Pink: Space manipulation, teleportation, portals and pocket dimensions (certain)
>>82441933
Without Steven it would be just gems going on misions, fighting monsters, and then the HW gems, and would change the tone of the show, no daily life shenanigans, no interaction with a relatable human character, etc, the only reason anyone gives a damn about the lore is because they are already invested in the characters after all.
>>82445802
Greg is without exception best parent.
He doesn't blame Steven for Rose choice.
He's always got time for his son.
He knows his son does things he can't really be involved in but tries to be as supportive as he can anyway.
And he decimated the shit out of a 5000 year old Warrior Princess from another Planet. Anyone else on earth done that?
Basically he's the guy that did the one thing man has been dreaming of ever since he first looked up at the sky.
Ploughed the shit out of a hot alien woman.
>there will be never be a likeable boy protagonist who routinely loses but you like him for it
I know there's plenty of anime for that, but I want it in modern Western cartoons.
>>82448734
and he's made friends with Connie, not because he feels obliged too, but because he can relate to her.
>>82444307
The homeworld gems are literally the dystopian government from Equilibrium aren't they
>Jasper: not without incident
>>82448734
>All this projecting
Are you forgetting what he did to Steven in House Guest? Garnet never stopped that low.
If ya'll haven't seen the newsGarnet unfuses in this bomb, thanks based CN
>>82450282
Does CN even give a fuck at this point?
>>82450282
Not necessarily. There was something similar that happened with Shirt Club.
>>82447771
He could also use fist weapons I guess
>>82450304
Signs point to no
>>82450339
What was it?
>>82450446
It was a pic of Buck crying with some FB tier meme attached to it.
>>82450487
Oh.
I mean, the only big deal for me is Garnet unfusing again at all, I'm already kind of expecting her reaction to be to something completely minor that is being taken out of context here.
![nfpachart[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hgFk6pr.jpg "nfpachart[1].jpg")
>>82448565
People are thinking it may be tied to pic related.
But honestly, there's just no way to tell at this point outside of conjecture.
>>82450387
No thats pussy garnet shit. Why hydromancer for lapis, when battle helmets for jasper, when...uh, drills for peridot? Shame about not really having a size slider this time around for short fat ammy or huge rose. Fire fists are good for a garnet tho, no hair as good.
>>82450527
Except it's not Red Diamond, it's Pink. Diamond.
>>82442885
Peridotfagging should be banned on this board.
>>82448245
The problem is that Steven hasn't seen Jasper in any mode except "violent, angry, thinks I'm my mom, finds my existence sickening." She seems to be the only Homeworld Gem he's actively frightened of. He was willing to free Peridot because he thought her desperation and fear didn't match up with her attitude, and he was willing to free Lapis because he saw her as a friend.
>>82450527
I could see it.
>>82450821
Yeah, but Rubies are shown to fit under the flammable powers of a Red rating. Perhaps they are an exception, though. The only Pink-affiliated gemstones we've seen are Rose and Steven. Blue diamond's court seems to be water/mind related, which is certainly related to destroying or manipulating organic/sentient life.
Yellow Diamond's special ability is a theorized Shining Finger that instantly destabilizes a gem, and it's known that her crew carry gem destabilizers. That works as an Instability Hazard.
I'm curious about White Diamond's abilities. She can probably irradiate gems into completely different types or some shit. She's the most powerful of the four, it seems, but isn't mentioned by anyone so far.
>>82447406
i like SU but come on
SU would be better without a fat whiny kid
>>82454961
>SU would be better without a fat whiny kid
