How do you guys feel about the fact that Spider-man, in contrast to the comics, is effectively one of the most powerful Supers in the MCU?
>>82426060
>in contrast to the comics
anon, have you actually read any of them?
>>82426060
>in contrast to the comics
Make a list of earthbound heroes who've soloed a herald of Galactus.
>>82426123
Yeah, at one point, didn't Spidey knock out a good portion of the Avengers for some reason?
Spider-Man is actually a bit OP when he wants to be
>>82426060
>in contrast to the comics
Nigger what? He's always a heavy hitter if he's serious.
>>82426060
Hi, /tv/!
>>82426060
I mean, when the writers actually use his powers well (usually when he's too pissed to hold back) he is, it's just that you have people on Magneto's level running around to kind of steal the show from how deadly a combination his strength, agility, and ability to sense danger is. I'm glad Renew Your Vows touched on this, with the Regent's fixation on Spidey's powerset being the one that will really make him unstoppable.
>>82426060
>one of the most powerful Supers in the MCU?
Yeah, all five of them. It's him, Wanda, Vision, Hulk, and Thor. Everyone else is just an amped-up human or using tech.
>>82426234
Pretty much. Having a perfect sense of his surroundings and the ability to sense danger is already a great power. What makes him dangerous is that his physical powers perfectly compliment that and allow him to make the best use of his spider sense.
>>82426060
I'm too busy feeling about his gummy candy textured body and thinking about him screaming while somebody just up and chews his fucking arm off
>>82426253
Jessica Jones and Luke Cage
>>82426060
Nearly all of Spider-man's villains are team level threats and he clowns on them so hard they barely manage street level. Think about that.
>>82426319
On top of that, he has to hold himself back so that he doesn't actually kill them
Post yfw somewhere down the MCU line Spidey loses his shit and starts fighting some villain at 100% strenght
>>82426289
Seek help.
>>82426060
That's exactly how he is in the comics
>>82426060
I hate when people say he's street level.
He's quite beyond that.
>>82426308Inhumans
>>82426433
He works best at street level. Not this pseudo Iron Man gimmick he's got going on these days.
>>82426378
My body will never be ready.
You shut your whore mouth, /tv/
>>82426060
Well, it's not like there's a large roster on that level to begin with.
>>82426060
Does this Spidey not have spider sense?
>>82426575
He does
>>82426575
He does, but it's pretty much unfocused.
>>82426494
The problem with that is that then people include him in VS. debates in that weight category and he usually has such an unfair advantage compared to actual street level characters.
>>82426602
How so?
>>82426627Isn't that the reason Tony made him those special lenses?
>>82426666
Why do peole keep saying this?
>>82426060
>contrast
Nah, Spidey is ridiculous. He just slums it, but he could go pro or cosmic, and sometimes does when shit gets real.
>>82426627
He doesn't have a handle on using it yet. He's still figuring it out. His iris goggles in his mask help him with it.
>>82426383
He's in the right place. What are you doing here?
>>82426627
>How so?
He senses EVERYTHING. But he couldn't process them. It's like being Superman and hear people crying for help from across the entire country constantly. This version of Spiderman has trouble focusing because he gets distracted by so much white noise he couldn't block out.
>>82426683
Because that's what happens?
>>82426683
Uhhhh....I haven't seen the movie yet, but I was under the assumption that it was correct.
>>82426695
>Spidey takes out Shang Chi, Iron Fist, Moon Knight, and Elektra, all without damaging his costume.
>>82426683
Tony picks up Pete's original home made mask and is all "what the fuck?" about it, Pete points out that he deliberately made it like to block out his senses because without it, he suffers from sensory overload
It's why Tony makes him the advanced mask with the auto focusing lenses
>>82426378
>someone threatens his aunt may
>you just see him silently walking towards them with a clenched fist
>>82426764
You have to be a speedster, a swarm or a magic user to even touch Spidey. He is the dodging king.
Spidey's always been one of the more powerful. He holds back so he doesn't wreck anybody he fights.
>>82426592
>>82426602
He kept on getting surprise attacked.
>>82426060
>in contrast to the comics
Only recent comics when there's a million different world breakers out there
Silver age Spidey was always one of the more powerful heroes.
>>82426433
Street level isn't just about power but the kind of shit you involve yourself in.
>>82426895
One of my favourite things about Superior SM was the way that the villains became shit-scared of him. Like terrified. That's the reality of a Spidey who doesn't hold back.
>>82426186
It's just Spidey holds himself back because he deals with Street level stuff
>>82426916
>surprise attacked
That should be impossible. Spider-Man doesn't have to be remotely conscious for his spider-sense to cause his body to avoid harm. He'll dodge the range of a watching sniper without ever even knowing why. Not muh spidey.
>>82426186
The Avengers, Fantastic Four, X-Men. Peter tends to be on the Jesus Fuck side of Overpowered.
>>82427012
Well just watch the movie. He kept on being caught off-guard
>>82426123
Isn't it the old meme that /co/ doesn't read comics
>>82427037
>just watch the movie
Hell no.
>>82426815
Or a Venom bloodline Symbiote.
>>82426970
Let's be fair though, that's some bullshit. Firelord shouldn't even feel those lovetaps.
>>82426815
To be fair though, >>82426695 is from Ultimate Spidey. Can 616 Spider-man do the same? I'm genuinely curious, I've read more Ultimate than 616 Spider-man
>>82427107
Ultimate Pete is weaker and less experienced than 616. The only reason he wouldn't be able to would be because those other characters are more experienced as well.
>>82427074
Spidey definitely ain't in Firelords strength range, but those are no love taps. The guy is still a power house and is attacking at blazing speed, even after awhile getting barraged by attacks that only sting, will begin to hurt.
Obligatory pic of Spidey's strength.
>>82427037
He actual saw those 'surprises' coming though, that doesn't mean he's untouchable and can auto-dodge them though.
>>82427074
Had no idea heralds were so durable.
MCU Pete's had his powers for just six months. He's extremely inexperienced and didn't even have a real costume when Tony found him.
>>82426969
The moments in Superior Foes that focused on that were fucking great.
>>82427012
Yeah, if anything the whole point of the spider sense is that he CAN'T get surprise attacked.
>>82427037
>>82427143
Oh yea, guess that does make sense. Ultimate Parker wasn't around near as long as 616. I have to get around to getting more into Marvel
>>82427145
>>82427165
Believe me, I'm not underselling Pete. Dude's a beast. But heralds are probably the most powerful characters in Marvel.
Silver Surfer, for instance, once fought another Herald literally inside of a black hole. When Cable got full control of his telekinesis, making him the most powerful telekinetic on earth (save maybe a Phoenix host), they called the Silver Surfer to take care of him, and he got fucking DESTROYED.
Reminder that Spider-Man is nightmare fuel.
1/2
>>82427255
Eh, he could dodge a bullet at that range.
>>82427302
2/2
>>82426060
Anon: Spider-Man is one of the most powerful Supers in Marvel.
He's by far the strongest Street level Marvel hero, not in terms of any singular statistic, but rather as a complete package.
He's stronger than several National, planetary, and galactic level heroes, but lacks the transportation and network (and desire) to go anywhere outside of NYC.
Actually, with him living in NYC, I can understand why he doesn't really own a car.
>>82427285
616 Pete is 28 years old, Ultimate Pete was 16 when he died
>>82426060
Thor & Iron Man are pretty close to the comics, but Hulk doesn't get stronger the angrier he gets and isn't nearly as durable as any comic Hulk.
>>82427298
Firelord isn't SS level of power though. Most sources I have read state his Strength level at 50 tons. That is not much higher than Pete's.
>>82426060
Spider-Man is an Omega level mutate in the comics.
>>82427338
>Spider-Man is one of the most powerful Supers in Marvel.
>>82427186
Am I the only one kinda pissed that it just HAD to be Stark giving him his proper Spidey suit instead of making it himself?
>>82427251
I haven't seen the movie yet, but it could just be a "My spider-sense is tingling!" and rather than dodge immediately, he turns and looks, and gets hit.
You know, because he's not experienced enough to reflexively dodge the moment he senses an attack.
>>82427439
Haven't seen the movie, pleas tell me Peter is actually smart in the MCU.
>>82427439
Yeah, that's some bullshit. Science is one of Pete's hidden abilities.
>>82427475
Needing experience to use spider-sense is a huge nerf.
>>82427439
>>82427439
Probably. He's a kid. He shouldn't have the resources, no matter how inventive or clever he is, to make something like what his classic suit is.
And no, I'm not talking about those stupid cosplay body gloves.
>>82427482
He is, he's just a 15 year old kid and poor as shit, so all the computers and stuff he has at home are out of date crap he's scrounged up
He still invented the web fluid and webshooters
>>82427482
He is, but you know. Gotta ride that Iron Cock.
>>82427544
>>82427547
Thank God for that, Science is Peter's thing.
>>82427541
I doubt they'll touch upon that in Homecoming. It would make Tony suddenly less symphathetic after Civil War.
>>82427542
Yet he had the resources to invent the webfluids and webshooters?
Thank god Tony didn't build those for him or I might've actually thrown some popcorn.
>>82427589
They should just go all out making him into a dick, and then have him had been a Skrull. They ever get Skrulls back?
>>82427627
>Yet he had the resources to invent the webfluids and webshooters?
Prototypes made out of junk and scrap, yeah.
>>82427544
What I don't like is how reliant it makes him on Tony in a way, unless he's gonna tell Tony to fuck off in his own movie after he finally figured out that what he wants to do is help people in their daily lives and not when the government tells him to. The government doesn't care if some fuckers rob a bank, but Spidey should.
>>82427629
>They ever get Skrulls back?
That's part of the Fantastic Four package, if I remember correctly. So no. Fox still has Skrulls.
>>82427672
They really want him to be Tony 2.0 here, huh?
>>82427428
He. Is.
Look, it's not any one aspect of his powers, it is the whole package. Precognition, spatial awareness, agility, strength, stamina, healing factor (yes, he has one), genius intelligence, stealth, speed, and moxie out the ying-yang, I didn't even mention that he can freely stand and function on 5 surfaces of any given room that almost nobody else can use, or that his genius with chemicals can produce 1-hour evaporating webs that are both elastic and stronger than steel with a variety of settings and functions.
In a world of specialists, he is a generalist with an implausible amount of synergy in his powers. His precognition is either a generalized danger buzz, or only goes off a split second before certain doom, but his reflexes let him evade and avoid certain doom at point blank range. His super-strength is only middleweight by Marvel Supers standards, but at his speed, he can throw a dozen punches in the same time bigger bruisers throw one.
He's astonishingly OP, and has been since the 60's. The biggest reason he's a street level hero is that he doesn't have the money to leave NYC.
>>82427696
Fucking gay.
>>82427439
Haven't seen the movie yet, but I've got money on Spidey having a v1.0 suit, webslingers, etc. When he gets recruited. Tony just cranks it up to 11.
>>82427711
Some versions of him are.
>>82427627
It wasn't like he had the resources to make his own suit yet.
>>82427745
Tony figuring out he's Spidey in the short amount that he's been active is also one thing I don't like, just for the record.
I know RDJ also play Holmes, but this is stupid. Tony is a tech guy, not a detective.
>>82427683
>What I don't like is how reliant it makes him on Tony in a way,
I would think he'd be reliant on him financially.
>unless he's gonna tell Tony to fuck off in his own movie after he finally figured out that what he wants to do is help people in their daily lives and not when the government tells him to.
I can see that happening. Could actually be why he goes to sell photos of himself to the Bugle. He ditches Tony, and thus his funds, and goes to the Bugle to get money to afford the materials to keep being Spidey.
Literally as far as we know, Tony only gave Peter resources to make better equipment. The suit he wears before Tony recruits him is his Mark 1. The airport battle is his Mark 2.
>>82427826
Same difference, these days. If Pete had a Starkphone, his ass was datamined.
>>82427745
He does. He's got a rudimentary Spideysuit and the webshooters already when Tony goes to recruit him. Tony just makes him a more advanced suit with a mask that lets him control his senses better.
Tony meeting him isn't his origin, he's been active as Spider-Man for a bit of time. He was bitten by the spider six months earlier.
>>82427826
Tony in MCU is not averse to drones or hacking SHIELD, or any other number of ethical concerns. Rookie Pete might have slipped up and swung Home in costume instead of getting on a subway or something, and Tony just chased that rabbit.
Few things in comics make me smile as much as when Peter gets serious. One of the few contenders is when Peter gets goofy.
>>82427781
Just buy some spandex. That's what Amazing Spidey did.
Just have him already have all his shit from the get go in Civil War. Not have Tony swoop in and be all "kid I know you're Spidey, here have a suit and help me out for a little bit here" because they need to suck off Iron Man's fame.
>>82427901
>Just buy some spandex.
And thermal undies.
>>82426433
His most interesting stories are when he is doing street-level stuff I think. The normal life vs. super life juggling and all that. I think a lot of people know him best from that or would consider those his best stories.
>>82427854
>Mayday and Cass on the same picture
Never thought I'd see the day. And now you're making me sad because if they'd ever make a Mayday movie you just know they'll out her in a "progressive" costume.
>>82427696
Skrulls as a whole are shared, but only Fox can use the named Skrulls.
>>82427863
So Tony is now a sugar daddy, makes sense.
Just wait until they retcon that into the comics.
>>82427901
Damn man, what's your hate against him? It's not like Tony made the spider that bit him. All he did was make the suit. It's not like Comic Tony hasn't done that before, either. He'll probably get another in Homecoming, maybe even Iron Spider.
>>82426378
>>82426378
dont give ideas to zack the hack buddy
>>82428001
Not a new idea.
>>82428003
>maybe even Iron Spider
Only if >>82427541 is how it'll go down.
>>82428063
To be fair Tony is the sugar daddy to all the Avengers.
>>82428001
Happened in Ultimate Universe years ago, man
>>82427961
But the Spider-Man costume looks so good on a woman.
I kind of want full on sinister six for Homecoming with Doctor Octopus as the lead. I mean its not like you need extensive character depth for Shocker, Rhino, or Mysterio. Go with the master planner route, and I think it could work out great. But if it had to be one villain Id also consider Scorpion since hes rarely used these days and the material is flexible
>>82427999
Even Xavin? So fucking gay.
He's powerful just because he's popular so writers make him the front and center of everything he's in.
>>82427696
>>82427999
You think Marvel secretly bought FF back?
>>82427711
Sure. Who else are they gonna market as the new MCU face after IW?
By that time Peter would be starting his college gig, which the most famous Spidey stories took place.
Unless they decide to go full Ultimate and kill him off in the third movie to get themselves some Miles Morales token points. Which is a scary thought.
>>82426289
Go to bed, Venom.
>>82428157
A reverse Batman wouldn't wear makeup.
>>82427335
>>82427302
Source?
Like Superman and Batman, at the start, Spidey wasn't as crazy strong.
It's just that as time wenton and he became more popular, even the most popular Marvel character, it's natural fpr him to get wanked and escalated to higher levels.
You got people nowadays saying he couls take on the Hulk full on when before it was obvious he couldn't. Hell, Hulk got much stronger as well.
It's just natural. With great popularity, comes great power wanking
>>82428358
Her lips are just that juicy.
>>82428380
In one of the earliest Stan Lee-penned issues of Spider-Man he fights all four of Fantastic Four by himself and wins.
>>82426289
same
>>82426744
must be a pain in the ass for him when he is not wearing his suit then.
>>82428438
The FF weren't crazy strong back then either compared to now.
Again, it's just natural that popular things have to get wanked and Spidey is easily one of the biggest examples.
>>82428519
Then why are all of the examples of him being OP from comics from the 70's to early 90's?
Your point is so ragged it's falling apart at the seams, man.
>>82428214
>You think Marvel secretly bought FF back?
Nope. I don't think Fox is ever going to let it go. Not even after that piece of shit they made.
>>82428584
He didn't have a point from the start especially with the back-pedalling of " the f4 wern't that strong" even though despit their strength their is still 4 of them and that is telling enough. Not to even mention 4 different power sets.
>>82428597
Sad, I would think Disney with its army of lawyers and mountains of money would try and find a loophole since the IP is in deep shit. The first family deserves better
>>82428584
I never mentioned any feats though just that he's been wanked over time as tge more time goes on, the more feats writers try to give hin.
It's a pretty common trope. Deal with it dude. Even batfags and supefags won't contest this.
There's no need to get so upset.
>>82428597
With how much money Disney has I could see them buying them and the X-Men back at some point, but not soon because Fox will keep them as long as they can.
>>82428679
>The first family deserves better
Not even the comic publisher who still owns them cares any lick about them.
>>82428519
>The FF weren't crazy strong back then
The Hulk and the Thing have always had a rivalry. F4 has always been top shelf.
>>82428717
After losing Star Wars to Disney?
Oh you bet they will.
>>82428707
Oh, you're an idiot. Alright, nevermind, carry on.
>>82428418
No, she's canonically homely chapstick butch tier outside of the costume.
Bitch goes full on sailor moon transformation when she changes into batwoman.
>>82428739
Nowdays, no one would ever THINGk that Ben could stand up to Hulk.
Although this is mainly cause we don't get good FF books any more if any.
Hulk these days is like world destroyer while Ben is...City maybe?
>>82428753
Fox had rights to Star Wars? I thought Lucas Studios had the rights to everything Star Wars.
>>82428763
>This much salt.
Sure thing chief.
>>82428725
Dude, the only thing they have going for them is the potential for the maker, the amazing spiderfriends potential with spiderman and the human torch broship, DOOM(who could be ousted by baron mordo if dr.strange doesn't COMPLETELY shit the bed).
Galactus SS and the rest of the cosmics are unimportant and to be honest nothing the FF has is really that important.
>>82428769
I actually like that stylistic contrast between when she runs around as Batwoman and when she's in civvies.
>>82428769
Fuck you. Kate a cute.
>>82428798
They own the rights to the actual films until 2020.
Except A New Hope. They own that forever.
Characters, concepts, music... everything else is Disney's.
>>82428798
Fox have absolute ownership of the first Star Wars forever, and Empire/Jedi and the prequels until 2020.
>>82428798
Remember when this always played at the beginning of a Star Wars movie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXWFYPk11GM
>>82426060
This is a side effect of the MCU massively depowering characters to be "grounded" and then, in trying to distance yourself from two previous franchises, you try to make a character's powerset identical to the source material
If this was TASM's Spidey it would be more like the rest of the MCU, but I guess they figured consistency doesn't matter as it's just a cameo anyways.
>We will never see Ben Grimm and Hulk fight
>Doctor Doom wont be an overarching villain like Thanos
Fuck everything
>>82428932
>We'll never have sick magic adventures with Doom and Strange
>>82428679
At this rate I wouldn't be shocked if Fox actually did this to Disney to get the rights to Inhumans with some bullshit argument about "they are Fantastic Four characters and our contract says we have total control over them."
Why? No reason other than pure spite and hate.what if that's the actual reason why the movie was "delayed?"
>>82426060
I still don't think he has anything on Thor, Hulk and Vision, but outside those 3 he's top-tier, even in this universe where Cap grows stronger every movie.
>>82426433
He has a versatile powerset that allows him to be useful in any situation, but the conflicts he faces outside of events or instances where he finds himself on a team are generally street level.
>>82426234
I remember someone noted once, if someone with Spidey's powerset went on a rampage and there isn't other superpowered people to subdue him, you'd pretty much only be able to stop them by carpet bombing an area the size of several city blocks surrounding them in order to be sure you got him
>>82426764
well those are the Ultimate versions for one thing, who were kinda chumps if I remember correctly
>>82428957
If that were the case wouldnt AoS be on hiatus since Inhumans are heavily featured?
>>82428913
I think it's more that this movie in particular is made by the guys who, y'know, actually get their characters and understand that they should be portrayed as powerful as they should be.
Pete in CW doesn't display any more power than say, the TASM one did. He displays physical strength above Cap, but doesn't come out of a one-on-one fight with Cap unscathed.
>>82428952
Or Doom and Namor being asshole bros who doublecross each other all the time.
>>82428957
Let's hope they do. Because that might make Marvel drop all this Inhumans crap in the comics.
>>82428965
Vision, he could take down. Hulk and Thor are too popular to job to him anally.
>>82429029
He should come out of it unscathed though, even in the movie's own continuity.
>>82426575
He does but he hasnt become accustomed to it yet, thats why he was wearing those dark googles.
>>82428847
Yeah, I do too. I think she is one of the only DC characters I like pretty much everything about. Though I don't think I read anything since shortly after nu52 either.
>>82429433
it's not like cap's a stroll in the park for peter in the comics too, considering that they never want to kill each other, anyway
>>82429531
That's true, but in the movie he literally gets hit by a truck and stops it like it's nothing. Cap isn't that strong even with main character buffs.
>>82426282
Spidey has ALL of the required secondary powers. It's a really dangerous combo. I can't imagine what would happen if you combined that with something that gave you more raw destructive power like Nova or Magneto
>>82428995
Yeah, because he'll know when a bullet is coming beforehand if you try to snipe him. Carpet bombing would be a little extreme, but you'd basically have to corner him into a situation where there's no out. It would almost be like Black Cat's luck powers in a way: If there's even a 2% chance of him surviving, his powers put him in that 2%. If you can't guarantee a victory, you'll fail.
>>82429122
Vision can fly, has super human reflexes, and can shoot laser beams out of his eyes. Spidey couldn't even touch him.
>>82429122
Once again, raw destructive power is one of the few ways to overwhelm him. If he had more raw power he'd be unstoppable
>>82429750
Not much, pretty forgettable.
>>82428157
damn I want to read this
>>82429858
So download it.
>>82426319
This anon gets it
>>82429846
>>82429750
Remember that time Spidey acquired the Phoenix Force for a short time?
>>82429890
Not to be daft, but it's not easily found online.
>>82429750
That's the trick, really. He's got an excellent balance of powers and no real weaknesses.
>>82429846
He punched Hulk into orbit. That's kind of memorable.
>>82427826
>Tony is a tech guy, not a detective.
A tech guy that had video of failed Iron man suits from 7 secretive countries.
>>82426446
God dammit.
There's no homemade costumes in the MCU. None. 'Super-suits' in the MCU are expensive shit usually made by the government or billionaires. There's no precedent for Spidey making something like that with his own resources.
>>82429834
Plus he is the one MCU hero that can completely ignore spidey's web
>>82430231
>There's no homemade costumes in the MCU
>he forgot the costume Coulson made
>>82430000
You just suck. It's on the 2 biggest torrent sites in existence. People who suck don't deserve to read comics.
>>82430021
Ethyl chloride is his Kryptonite. You can buy it at most gardening stores.
>>82426970
>Mfw this page was the inspiration for the Eight-Legged Fury skill
Christ.
>Top Speed clocked in at 200 mph
>maximum strength without any enhancers is 10 tons
>Going that fast, hitting that hard
When he cuts loose, he cuts it hard.
>>82430638
>Ethyl Chloride
Bug spray??? You're shitting me. that's hilarious
>>82431045
>>82429960
That was a fun issue.
Arcade is retarded.
>>82431101
Yeah. There were hunter bots equipped with it for a while. But of course, "they're just robots" applied.
>>82428364
The Amazing Spider-Man: Origin of the Species.
Issue 642 to 647
S'good read.
>>82427012
I only recall the Spider Sense failing him once in the whole fight.
When Antman sucker punches him. And even then it goes off and he reacts and says they're about to get ambushed but Antman is so small Spidey can't see him until he's already hit him.
>>82426060
>in contrast to the comics
end yourself
>>82427326
Goddamn spidey.
didnt knew he had it in him
>>82430231
Daredevils suit is made by Gladiator somehow
>>82431045
And that's ignoring the fact that he can also sling webs which can be used for even greater mobility, and to make everything around him into a trap or weapon.
>>82427396
He is. Firelord's not as strong as the Surfer, but it's in the sense of "if the Surfer's a 10, he's an 8." In his next appearance, he took a blast capable of blowing up planets.
So is this motherfucker gonna show up or not?
>>82428271
>Sure. Who else are they gonna market as the new MCU face after IW?
Probably a character that they actually own the film rights to.
>>82431477
Yeah but the series are ignored by the movies and i don't see that changing
>>82431680
I'm still irrationally angry that Rulk lacks the Thunderstache.
>>82428271
>Sure. Who else are they gonna market as the new MCU face after IW?
Starlord, bitches love Chriss Pratt
>>82431780
They might do it in MCU tho
hopes for Infinity War:
>Rulk
>Rulk joins Thanos
>spidey goes to space somehow, gets Symbiote'd, brings it back to earth, and eventually bulky CGI classic Brock Venom
>>82426378
But we saw that in SP3 with Sandman.
>>82427961
You're probably whining about nothing. "progressiveness" isn't as slathered on everything as you seem to think it is. It's honestly just a spider suit with room for boobs.
The only way it could be changed is if they don't give it tit-socks or visible nipples, which is unneeded anyway.
>>82431905
>tit-socks or visible nipples, which is unneeded anyway.
Speak for yourself faglord.
>>82427012
When Stark meets him and asks him to explain what the hell are his powers he explains his senses are extremely enhanced and he has a hard time focusing, so he uses his suit to shut part of the spider-sense out
Before Tony found him he was actually fighting crime blind and guiding himself only by spider-sense from what was implied with tony sayin he couldn't see shit when he put on his "goggles"
>>82428173
I want Scorpion, Vulture, and Hobgoblin saved for 2099. But then again I want 2099.Which will never happen.;-;
>>82428271
>Miles would get a movie before Ben Reilly and Kaine
I wanna see them grow some balls into adapting any form of Clone Wars
>>82432094
I can see one of them being used as intro filler like Rhino was during ASM2.
>>82431905
I think he's thinking about the Batgirl suit
>>82427696
Defective LMD. Wasn't really Tony, marvel still gets to shove iron dick down our throats, it's fiiiiiiine.
>>82432228
>Everyone is an agent of shield
>Everyone is an avenger
>Everyone is a subsidiary of Stark Industries.
MAKE IT STOP.
>>82430638
yeah but it can kill normal people too not really a weakness when it works on anyone
>>82426164
Black panther
We just had a whole movie about people beating the shit out of Iron Man and you lot are still on about the Iron Dick. Christ.
>>82426815
Source?
I always see this page posted but never see what issue it's from.
>>82426378
>Quiet and angry Spidey
Any villain would shit their pants in terror. You do not want to piss off the Wallcrawler to the point where the quips stop coming.
>>82432675
An amount that wouldn't kill a human will not just remove, but freak out his powers, so he can barely function. It's a way to verify who he is without a tissue sample. It's really damn dangerous to him.
>>82431131
is this from back in black? I just started reading it and i figure something like this is coming soon
>>82431309
I know /co/ is love-hate with him, but I dig my based Waid.
>>82426319
Maybe Sandman and the symbiotes. That's nothing compared to X-men dudes like Apoclypse, Magneto, Mr.Sinister,etc
>>82432094
After seeing what they did with Yellow Jacket's design you'd be crazy NOT to want Scorpion. Plus I personally think hes a overlooked Spidey villain with potential.
>>82432877
Yeah, Pete makes Fisk his hitch right infront of everyone. It's glorious.
>>82427396
Parker has never gone beyond 20 tons
>>82432942
I just really like 2099 spidey.
If I could have mecha-scorpion AND bio-scorpion I'd die a happy man, but 2099 alone ain't likely so there's no need for me to pick.
>>82433028
Why not a fusion of both? Gargan did have genetic manipulation done on him
>>82433050
Eh, if one turned into the other it wouldn't feel the same. Gargan was a cool sort of mechanical equivalent to spiderman, and seeing his machine at work is what's cool about him (like Ock). Stone is a freak that's probably permanently stuck that way. Their stories are too different foe me to see their physical forms merge.
>>82433050
Sounds like an easy way to make him more threatening. Play up his private investigator past and maybe they can make him more than just a guy out for revenge and cash
>>82432829
Pretty much this. all the villians of new york knows if spidey stop talking you'r pretty much done
Is Oscorp ever mentioned in the movie?
>>82433329
There should be a story where Peter loses his voice or has a sore throat or something, and has to not talk for a while. All the villains are meeting up underground shitting their pants wondering who fucked up everyone's day by pissing off Spiderman that much, meanwhile Pete's wondering why people are behaving and turning themselves in.
>>82432985
How much exactly do you think a subway car weighs?
Hell, Parker held up the Daily Bugle once.
>>82433434
That story already exists in the Amazing Spider-Man Annual 1 [2014].
it's kind of cute, actually.
>>82433658
Y'know, when I was typing that up I was thinking about how almost all "Spidey should X" ideas have already been done, and yet I still went ahead and suggested this.
>>82433520
He held up a support beam. He says this in the comic and it pretty much wipes him out. I don't know how much a subway car weighs but I seriously doubt the artist does either. He's pretty strong but 20+ ton range is Juggernaut and above territory
>>82426123
>>82426186
>>82427019
He's a precog with super agility and super strength. He's some kind of superhero ninja jedi. Of course he fucks things up when he wants to.
>>82433851
Praise Russos.
>>82429838
Generally being an elemental of some kind beats Spidey.
It's why Sandman, Hydroman and Electro are some of the most dangerous for him.
>>82427961
I don't see how they could give her a more "progressive" costume.
>>82430342
Coulson didn't make it. He had "design input". Cap is basically wearing the same kind of getup Hill and the folks on the bridge on the carrier were wearing. Just "spangley".
>>82426803
>walking
Bitch, he'd be crawling like a freaky monster. No quips, no mercy
>>82427540
Literally no mention on that page of his spider-sense working automatically as opposed to him having super-fast reaction speeds.
You know that originally his Spider Sense just tingled when he was in danger and he had to actually do shit himself to capitalise on that, right?
It's only over time that his power became more and more like prescient clairvoyance and became more and more accurate and specific in warning him of dangers, thanks to comic book power creep.
I prefer the older style SS where he knows something is about to happen, but not what, and has to actually do something. And strangely enough that version fits much better with the generally lower power levels of the MCU, so I'm not even remotely surprised that this is how his SS functions at the moment in the MCU.
Wait until Homecoming, you'll get super-amped autoresponse spider sense there, I'm sure. As well as a villain capitalising on a way to dampen or restrain it.
>>82433658
>the only reason spidey has so many recurring villains is because he quips so much
>if he'd just shut up a lot of the criminals he fights would be scared straight
that's hilarious
>>82427298
it's hardly touched upon but Surfer is basically Supes+Flash put together with the ability to absorb energy and transmute matter
>>82432780
Civil War, last issue
>>82427302
>>82427335So who took the baby? And what's the importance of it anyway?
>>82434166
>As well as a villain capitalising on a way to dampen or restrain it.
It won't be a villain.It'll be six.
>>82432780
i think it's from civil war, but i can't remember what issue if so.
(it could also be from fantastic four or spiderman during that time period)
>>82434166
While the usual audience=power levels rule of comic protagonists tends to bother me, I sort of like it on Pete. Part of the fun with him is he's a semi-average guy who's a hue nerd and just had this responsibility of spidey powers dumped on him. Then cosmic and multiverse stuff gets in the mix and I still think of this stressed out dork trying to kill a dark god so he doesn't miss his date or so he has time to give Aunt May flowers for Mother's day. It's really charming no matter how strong he gets and no mater what bullshit he has to deal with on a daily basis.
>>82426308
They're like... wall level nigger.
>>82426060
>>82426815
Alright, famalamadingdongs, Avengers 4 is the Sinister Six (we don't have to title it that). Who are your six, and when are they each introduced? They don't have to all be Spidey villains.
Hard mode: at least 4 Spidey villains
Expert mode: all 6 Spidey villains
Big-head mode: no Spidey villains
Mine:
1. Norman Osborne - established in Homecoming but not Goblin until second Spidey solo film (and he's the hulking, fireball throwing Ultimate Goblin)
2. Doc Ock - Starscream to Norman's Megatron; again, like in Ultimate, Doc Ock and Goblin result from the same accident
3. Shocker (the Scott Lang of the S6 making annoying jokes of their plans; unlike Scott, he isn't liked by the rest of the team)
4. Sandman - introduced by being broken out of a sophisticated holding cell in the Raft to be offered a spot on the team; he was arrested by the Avengers for a string of heists in Dubai (Hydro-Man is responsible for his breakout).
5. Hydro-Man (can do some wombo combos with Sandman)
6. Scorpion - teased in Homecoming (vague reference to Mac Gargan by JJJ)
>>82435045
>Big-head
Will Hammerhead ever be able to be played without seeming like a joke? Maybe if Kingpin comes around he can be a sort of right-hand or "business" connection, but he doesn't strike me as the type of guy to matter.
I guess also maybe he could be the gag villain that spidey stops in the intro, like Rhino, but I'd want someone like Slyde for that (even if nobody knows about him)
So I'm confused does Spidey get beat up in the new Captain America or does he actually put up a fight?
>>82435045
1. Boomerang
2. Shocker
3. Beetle 2
4. Overdrive
5. Speed Demon
6.Dormammu???
>>82434273
The Lizard took it. It's supposed to be important because it was thought the baby had pure goblin serum from both his parents being having it (turned out not to be the case), so Doc Ock thought it had healing powers.
Why he didn't just try and kidnap Mr. Immortal and unlock his secrets is a mystery.
