http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-verdict-batman-v-889234
>The latest numbers are in for Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, and the film now has a worldwide haul of $862.9 million. According to The Hollywood Reporter, that means it's likely to conclude its run somewhere around the $875 million mark, a disappointing result for a release many initially predicted would top the $1.4 billion haul made by The Avengers in 2012. It became clear by that second or third week that $1 billion was out of the question of course, but failing to reach $900 million isn't great, especially when Batman v Superman cost such a huge amount to make.
>>82425269
>Morthefucking Spider-Man 3 made more than BvS itself.
What Universe am I right now?
What the fuck.
>>82425269
>Spider-Man 2
>Amazing Spider-Man poster
>>82425376
You're in a universe where DC makes poor decisions regarding its franchises.
Of course a bad movie that followed up two highly successful films made more money than a bad movie that followed one mediocre film.
>>82425376
It had sequel hype, 2 was the best and brought in a ton of people
>>82425376
You would have thought they would have learned from the second one. They honey dicked us with the venom suit.
>>82425376
Venom and the second one actually being great I guess. BvS probably started off stronger because of sheer brand recognition but the movie fucking sucks dick so
>>82425594
Snyder should literally consider suicide irl
>>82425269
Do you guys think CW will top AoU?
>>82425376
I watched Spider-man 3 three times when it came out in the cinema, and with friends every time
It was fun to watch as a kid. I doubt any kid would say the same for BvS
>>82425594
Because many people don't like Ben Affleck. Whether it's his political voews, acting, directling, or personality. Whatever the reason he doesn't have the pull that someone else playing batman would have.
>>82425690
Yeah, sure, THAT'S the reason the movie stank.
>>82425690
Fuck you, man, I agree BvS was a shitty movie, but Batfleck was amazing and easily one of the very few good things about the movie.
>>82425662
>I watched Spider-man 3 three times when it came out in the cinema
>>82425662
>2007
>as a kid
2bh it's nowhere near as bad as people make it to be. Same goes for TASM2, it wasn't as awful as the reviews say. Or maybe I just really like Spider-Man
How is Justice League going to do better with Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg? If Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman can't get it to 1 billion I don't see how lesser characters will.
>>82425657
Almost certainly.
>>82425269
WE DID IT, /CO/!
Now DC will HAVE to listen to the fans and add quips to their movies.
>>82425690
I have to second this guy >>82425734
He did the best he could with the retarded script he was given. Best Batmurder AND Bruce Wayne to date if you ask me
>>82425690
Ben Affleck was praised. Some consider him the best Batman/Bruce Wayne combo yet.
>>82425269
>Iron Man 3
>Spider-Man 3
>Guardians being that low
>>82425821
I mean, for what it was, it did better than people were expecting.
Same with Deadpool and Ant-Man.
You can expect the sequels to do much better now that the general public knows what they can expect from these.
>>82425690
>Blaming it on Affleck
>Not MoS's horribly divisive reception
>Not Zack Snyder's ability to continuously push potential viewers away every time he opens his dumb mouth
>Not the constant bad press that exposed what a clusterfuck the production was
Batfleck and Wonder Woman were like the only things to actually get positive reception when it was all said and done.
I thought X-Men: DOFP would rank up here.
>tfw Star Wars, Zootopia, Jungle Book and Civil War will or already have outgrossed B v S
But what happened, I thought B v S was supposed to be the biggest movie of the year?
>>82425897
Did even worse than Deadpool, grossing little less than 750 million.
Which is weird, because I could've sworn to God it had made over 800 million at one point.
>>82425269
Zack 'the hack' Snyder in action
>>82425967
And people think it has a chance against Alice Through The Looking Glass.
>>82425821
>>82425897
2014 was the worst year for movies since 1997
>>82425990
NO Nico minoru!
>>82426045
One of these movies is actually being advertised.
>>82425990
It's the washed out color that makes me laugh at this the hardest.
Relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNlLAp2OGi8
>>82426106
You don't really need to advertise the sequel to a billion dollar success.
>>82426195
Are we still talking about Alice?
>>82425269
>shit movie does badly
What a surprise
The saddest thing in the world to me is when you go to look at sneak peaks of B vs. S and there's a bunch of kids arguing in the Youtube comments about B vs. S being better than any marvel movie.
I get it, you want DC to succeed, I do too, but when you give them passes because they're DC then they have no reason to make a good movie because you fags will always gobble it up no matter what.
>>82425376
Don't forget, it made more than BvS without accounting for inflation, increased ticket prices, and 3D
>>82425925
>B v S
What are you doing?
>>82425269
I thought BvS was a car wreck of a movie, but I didn't think it possible that it could come up short of a billion. It's Batman and Superman. The two most recognizable fictional characters in all of Western Pop Culture, and likely overall worldwide.
I figured it would be like Transformers. Those are dogshit too, but they always make absurd amounts of money. I don't really understand why BvS was susceptible to bad word of mouth when those haven't been.
>>82425269
It's not fair, Nolan movies weren't released in China
>>82426268
It was also the second sequel of a successful franchise.
>>82426221
We indeed are. The first one made a billion dollars, roughly 250 million more than the best performing X-men movie.
>>82425662
the theaters here were selling these credit card type of things that had the batman/superman logo for 100 dollars
ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS
so you could see the movie as many times as you wanted
was/is DC that desperate?
>>82426162
>Oh this looks neat
>OY OY M8
dropped
I'm more astonished Guardians is on there. I knew it was a big success in terms of defying expectations for such an obscure property, but i figured Winter Soldier made more.
DC took too long to get their act together, and it's costing them big time. I feel bad, because i just want a god damn Flash movie.
>>82426195
You do when that billion dollar success came out years ago, disappeared off the public radar almost immediately, no one even knows the sequel is happening, and the direction/style being used has fallen massively out of favor with the public.
>>82425269
>Amazing Spider-Man 1 is on there
>ASM2 barely made less than GotG
>People call it a box office bomb series
Why are they rebooting it again?
>>82426294
This! I'm so confused! The critics shit on both so what does Transformers have that Batman v Superman doesn't have? I don't get it.
>>82425269
>BvS not reaching 900m
>IM3 made all that
fucking travesty is what it is
>>82426430
Kid friendly. BvS really cut down on the potential audience by having things as simple as a nude bath scene.
>>82426413
Because ASM2 suffered from the same problem BvS had, where word of mouth and poor reviews caused a massive drop off in profits after the first week.
>>82425269
its been out for a matter of weeks.
how you gonna compare it to final numbers when its still in theaters?
>>82425748
2007 was nine years ago anon, I was 11. I agree though, as far as superhero films go, if I remember correctly it's pretty well paced. I think people tend to latch onto the cringey emo scene and the fact that it has three villains, but to me it wasfunand that's what matters most.
It's not great but it's watchable and it's an easy watch.
>>82426413
Sony is bad with movies and money, they funded Sandler and his SNL friends through their great American comedy swindle for years.
>>82425269
Is this just cinema profits or does it include DVD sales
I hope it includes DVD sales then BvS will slowly be pushed down over the years
>>82426430
People don't like to think when watching movies. That's why MCU is so popular
>>82426462
Revenge of the Fallen had actually racist caricatures and a giant robot scrotum on screen, and referenced it directly as a scrotum
>>82426503
Those made money, though. Up until recently anyhow.
>>82426518
They do think when buying them, which is why DCEU is not.
>>82426531
Quip != vagina.
>>82426413
ASM2 made a profit technically, but Sony had hoped it would gross more because it was supposed to launch their attempt at a shared Spider-Man universe. However with the less than expected returns and Marvel willing to work with them on getting Spidey into the MCU Sony decided to scrap ASM3 and Sinister Six in favor of just riding the success of the MCU.
Think about it, having RDJ as Iron Man on screen with Spiderman provides a HUGE boost in terms of publicity and marketing on top of being an iconic character and Marvel gets to promote how their most well known character is interacting with everyone else. It's a win-win
>>82426413
Because Sony doesnt know what the fuck they're doing and decided to team up with the people who do
>>82426518
Is that why Nolan Batman was so popular too?
>>82426430
Levity, humor, heart, action in the daylight. Say what you will about Bay, but he puts his heart and soul into every movie. Transformers, Bad Boys, The Rock, Pain and Gain, Benghzai. No matter what,he is genuinely trying to entertain. Snyder, on the other hand seems to have contempt for his audiences for not accepting his films post-300 fully.
>>82426430
Jokes, shit jokes that play on the lowest form of humor but jokes. Also bright primary colors.
>>82425748
ASM 2 is supremely awful in terms of pacing, plotting, characterization, etc. Sony shoved its greasy fingers up every one of that movie's orifices, and you can feel it.
Garfield could've been good if he had a decent script to work with, though. He's the best part and you can tell he's trying his best, but no one could carry that shit tanker alone.
>>82426558
You don't even see anything of Amy Adams in that bathtub scene. Also why are they trying to utilize the sex appeal of Amy Adams of all people? She's over 40 and she looks it.
>>82426488
>2007 was nine years ago anon
Where does the time GO
>>82426518
>People think Marvel is responsible for Hollywood being creatively bankrupt and relying on the same old things to shove down our throats to make money
It's been like that for a good while
>>82426607
It's not about sex appeal and it's not about her box being on screen. Parents are not going to let their kids go to a movie when it shows a naked girl in the trailer. They are going to let them see a movie about robots and explosions.
>>82426616
4chan
>>82426430
Two things: Talking, and tone. The big reason Transformers movies make so much money is because they're very popular with foreign audiences - since so little of the film's appeal lies in its dialogue, it translates very easily. BVS, on the other hand, spends the first two hours on what's mostly dialogue scenes with maybe two fairly short action sequences. There's also the fact that BVS was very much going for the idea of a dark, mature film (or, failing that, a stellar, iconic clash of the titans), while the Transformers films have always been unapologetic about their crass, kid-friendly, we-know-we're-sellouts-what-did-you-expect nature. People walk into Transformers films knowing exactly what they're getting. Meanwhile, plenty of people walked away from BVS being outright disappointed, which is the worst kind of word of mouth to have - it means you couldn't even appeal to the people who wanted to like you.
>>82426375
Eh, it'll do fine. It's got no real competition until Finding Dory and Central Intelligence come out.
And Disney will get around to promoting it. They've just been busy with promoting Star Wars 7 on DVD, Zootopia, Jungle Book and Civil War.
>>82426576
On the other hand, the Transformers movies have terrible action scenes. The designs of the Transfomers just make it very unclear what's happening on-screen.
Snyder shoots a better action scene. But again, BvS is anemic on the action until the final 30 minutes. Though even Snyder doesn't understand that action scenes without emotional context are boring, so the Doomsday fight wasn't even worthwhile.
>>82426120
Shit, I didn't even notice until I read your comment and now I'm cracking up again.
>>82426616
Big year for Hollywood too. The first modern summer movie season. Pirates At World End, Spiderman 3, I am Legend, Shrek 3, all came out that summer.
>CW already made $200mil in the foreign box office
>>82426375
Finding Dory will be fine. Probably hits somewhere in the top 3 highest grossing movies of the year.
>>82426854
1.2 Billion here we come.
>>82425657
Honestly? No, not initially at least. Avengers had the hype from the first movie going for it- I personally know a lot of people who loved Avengers but didn't care about Captain America. His name on this movie might dull the first weekend, but I'm hoping word of mouth boosts it.
>>82426813
I Am Legend came out in the Winter of 07', mate.
>>82426889
I'm talking about that shitty Alice in Wonderland sequel that Disney's trying to put out as quietly as possible.
>>82425376
I saw Spiderman 3 twice because I could not believe it was that bad the first time.
>>82426931
Whoops, sorry. Big hit though. Good movie too. Never thought I'd tear up about Shrek.
>>82426937
Oh, that, I have no idea how that will do. The only reason the first Alice did so well was Buton's name attracting the Hot Topic kids.
>>82426921
Are you friends with Nazis or something?
>>82426947
To date, that and Transformers 2 are the only movies that have made me lose my shit so much at the cinema that I've come close to walking out on. And I was so hyped for both
>>82425821
Iron Man 3 was rad. Mandarinfags can fuck off.
>>82425925
>tfw Zootopia on the verge of catching up with BvS domestically
Kek will BvS even beat GoTG domestically?
>>82425398
Oh wow.
That chart sucks my spider balls.
At this point I think /tv/ is trying to push the Alice in wonderland 1 billion dollars as a meme
I really thought this was going to make at least a billion
Never underestimate the power of word of mouth
>>82425376
With big properties, how good or bad something is has more effect on what follows it.
SM3 did really well because of the good reputation of SM2. Likewise, ASM1 made something like 150m less, because of SM3'2 rep.
Same with X-Men - 3 made a ton of money because 2 was very good, the money they made didn't go up again until The Wolverine because it came out after First Class repaired the series reputation.
That's the most damning thing for BvS: that bad word of mouth is going to hit Justice League harder than it hit BvS.
>>82426607
Leave my momfu alone faggot.
>An x-men spin-off has gained more money than the main x-men movie
>>82426813
So many disappointing threequels goddamn. I think Shrek 3 pissed me off the most.
>>82425886
>Not Zack Snyder's ability to continuously push potential viewers away every time he opens his dumb mouth
Fucking this. I keep seeing threads featuring quotes from Snyder from interviews, and you can FEEL his inability to form a coherent sentence just by looking at it.
>>82426652
>Parents are not going to let their kids go to a movie when it shows a naked girl in the trailer. They are going to let them see a movie about robots and explosions.
Murica
>>82427152
deadpool is funny
>>82427189
I feel like Snyder isn't human, there's this weird uncanny feeling I get every time I see him.
>>82426413
That's actually supposed to be Spiderman 2, they picked the wrong picture
>>82427189
General audiences don't care about interviews, let alone about what is said in those interviews.
>>82427419
It's weird, I walked out of BvS upset and then I heard his voice for the first time in an interview and all my anger was washed away. How can an edgy grimderp loving dude have such a childlike voice?
I expected him to be some dyel dudebro but he sounded and looked like a confused 10 year old
Maaan, those Raimi movies printed money back in their day. Sony sure did fuck that up.
>>82427387
No it isn't
ITT: people with who don't work and have no money try to understand how much a film has to make to turn a profit
Also Iron Man 3 was awful and not just because of mandarin (like anyone even cares about that character in the first place)
>>82425269
Well, maybe it would have been better if it was about solving a problem rather than starting one for no reason?
>>82427704
no him, but yes it is
>>82427358
>Murica
No, you just don't remember what it is to be 10 years old and/or what it is to have a 10 year old.
>Can't fucking stand MCU
>Don't give a shit about X-Men or Memepool
>DCbro all my life
>DCEU is what I get
What the fuck am I supposed to do /co/? Will it get better when WB inevitably fires Snyder's ass after JL1?
>>82427812
>he didn't touch boob when he was eight
How did you even pass on penis inspection day?
>>82425269
Jesus Christ, this movie cost 225 million dollars? Holy Fuck, that's a waste.
>>82427805
Not really though.
I saw it the weekend it came out in a packed theater and all I heard was a few light chuckles
It's too bad because it had a good add campaign
>>82427839
>McDuffie is dead
>Dini fucked off to Marvel
It truly is a dark time for DC fans
>>82427923
Almost all these movies cost 200 million and they are all universally forgettable. At least deadpool didn't spend a lot though it was also bad
>>82427839
Enjoy your animated movies
>>82425269
this is considering inflation and all that shit?
>>82427964
A-at least we've still got Bruce Timm. I'm sure the heads at WB will listen to him eventually right?right?
/r/ing the pic of posters for Batman versus everyone in the DCEU
>>82426652
the bathtub scene was far from being inappropriate for children... in fact i think it was the only realistic, warm scene of mutual trust and romantic spontaneity in the whole film... it was like it came from a different, better movie entirely
the sex was fine the real reason its not making back as much from the kid demographic is because parents were probably shocked by the violence and ugliness. a lot of spoopy scenes like the manbat bursting out of the grave and the nightmare sequence, the cruelty of the treatment of martha kent and the spoopy photographs of her, batman branding people so that they will then be "killed in prison", stabbing people crushing them under the wheels of his brutal tank, breaking necks left right and center
when i saw it in the cinema a mother explained to her kid what batman branding was all about.
>>82425269
>Didn't even make a billion
Damn, the word of mouth really did a number on the movie.
>>82427358
Stupid or not, if you're going to be releasing a blockbuster in Murica you better account for that or your sales will suffer.
>>82428054
>in some alternate universe Timm or Dini were handed the reins to the DC movies
>instead, we live in the one where WB though it was appropriate to give it to the Snyder's production company
>>82428151
Holy fucking shit.......we're Bizarro Earth.
>>82425269
Holy fuck did Dawn of Justice really not make more than Spiderman fucking 3?
And yet they're STILL letting Snyder fuck Justice League in the ass. It's like they WANT a DCCU to bomb on every level.
>>82428305
They don't want to destroy the artistic integrity of his work.
>>82425269
>>82425376
We live in a universe where a Deadpool movie was not only better than a movie starring Batman & Superman but also more profitable than a film starring Batman & Superman.
Feels good because maybe the executives will realize people are getting tired of soulless cashouts and rushed bullshit and are willing to fork over lots of cash for movies with soul and personality.
>>82428389
They didn't want to tank BvS box office anymore than it already was by pulling Snyder off JL. By the time they could pull him it had already entered production.
>>82428430
>personality.
Say what you want about MoS and BvS but they did have personality....it just happened to be Snyder's personality which doesn't fit the properties at all. WB gave Snyder TONNES of creative freedom.
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>>82426576
Holy shit, the number of explody things actually correlates with how much money he makes.
I think I may faint from laughter.
>>82427839
I feel you mean. I don't give a shit about company wars, I love Marvel and DC. I love Batman and Superman.
I hated BvS not just because it was shit, but because it precludes actual good DC movies from happening for at least 10 years. The DCEU will fizzle out and it will be a while until WB decides to try again.
>>82428489
You are right, perhaps I should have said "personality that is inline with the established characters". Man of Murder and Batmurderer were just so alien it was crazy. I think it must be that Snyder can't comprehend the idea or ideal that a person could perform self sacrifice for other people simply because they have the power and the potential to do so. I think he can't figure out a selfless character so he falls back on Jesus, a character that he knows is selfless because everyone in the world agrees he is.
That is why, IMO, there is so much christian imagery in BvS, he is trying to make the characters seem selfless by relating them to Jesus because he can't emotionally or mentally comprehend or work on a hero.
Zack Snyder, the guy who did Watchmen, two Superman movies, and is working on JLA is a man who doesn't get superheroes.
>>82426331
>BAT CREDIT CARD
>>82428635
>Zack Snyder, the guy who did Watchmen, two Superman movies, and is working on JLA is a man who doesn't get superheroes.
He doesn't even seem to like superheroes very much. Every interview I've read of him has him kind of sneering at and dismissing them.
>>82428635
Well you are talking about the guy who said Batman and Superman having a conversation while in costume would look stupid.
>>82428595
It gets even worse, all those DC films they had scheduled? They're gonna be put on the shelf if the new Harry Potter spin-off brings in money
>>82428595
This is what pisses me off the most. We will have to wait at least another 5 years for a shot at a decent Fantastic 4 movie, and we will have to wait at least a decade for a shot at decent Superman and JLA movies. The only hope is that the Batman movie does well. Suicide Squad looks good.
>>82428654
It would be kind of cool if they were branded as Wayne Financial or something like that.
>>82428635
I get the feeling like Snyder is a half-baked objectivist that wouldn't get the concept of sacrifice or duty.
>>82426331
You mean a gift card? Those things most stores sell and where a specific branding doesn't mean you can only watch one movie with them?
>>82425376
I don't get why people are so surprised spiderman 3 did that much money, and more than BvS. No, I'm not saying SM3 was somehow better or deserving that much money. What I'm saying is that back then, the spiderman franchise had two great films, which helped to create hype for a third andfunone, and the advertising campaign keep focusing on one of his most recognizable opponents, venom. It had all the ingredients to be a huge office hit.
In a way is similar to TDK and TDKR. Batman begins isn't into the top ten list, but set the basis for the smashing hits that the sequels became, and TDK really paved the way for TDKR.
And the opposite works too, I guess. BvS is on the list, but I'll bet my ass WB will minimize as much as possible the Snyder presence on the publicity campaign (actually, is unlikely you will see stuff like "From the director of BvS and Sucker punch" from now ahead), and JL will have a much weaker opening week than any film on the list, despite the intensive efforts to advertise it as "No, really, this is not like BvS at all, please come to watch it", which will include explosions and quips galore on every trailer.
>>82428635
>Man of Murder and Batmurderer were just so alien it was crazy.
These aren't even unacceptable concepts, if only the movies about them hadn't also sucked.
>>82428749
He's a whole-baked Objectivist:
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/18/ayn_rands_warped_superheroes_of_course_zack_snyders_vision_of_greatness_owes_everything_to_the_fountainhead/
http://www.therobotspajamas.com/man-of-steel-film-is-based-on-randian-objectivism/
Maybe he and Ditko should pair up for a film. At least Ditko has talent even if he's nuts.
I am concerned with Snyder directing the Battletech movie.
>>82428802
Shit I'm not sure why people are so baffled when the first two are on the list too.
>>82428804
>These aren't even unacceptable concepts
But they are, at least for Superman. Superman was raised by good people to be a good man. He's a man learning to deal with being a god. While he may be from the stars, he's really from here. He's not an alien, he doesn't have to learn to be human.
Batman is the more alien one. Raised in the isolation that unbelievable wealth brings, he was further isolated by tragedy. He barely has any connection to humanity, brooding nearly constantly alone in his dark cave.
>>82428890
>salon
lol stop.
>>82428890
>character created by Jewish lefty socialists in the hands of a randian
Well that's late stage capitalism for you I guess
>>82428962
But that's just one interpretation. Doing a different one is entirely valid, if anything it's something that should be encouraged.
>>82429042
Why? Is something outside of Comic Book Resources or Ain't It Cool too advanced for you?
>>82429117
Supes is actually just a cheap as fuck knock off of the gladiator and a bit of john carter.
Like basically all of it.
The only thing they changed was the setting and the costume. And the clusterfuck of powers that they started tacking on later in an attempt to outdow captain marvel...who was quite honestly destroying supes in sales.
>>82429176
Maybe, but in doing a different interpretation it also has to be good. And the more you deviate from the common version, the stronger you're going to have to make your work.
Personally I kind of disagree that any other interpretation works for Superman at least without fundamentally changing the character, but I'm willing to consider quality attempts.
Unfortunately, BvS wasn't one.
>>82429223
Not sure what you're going on about, because nothing in your rant has anything to do with the point of the anon you're responding to.
Shuster and Siegel WERE lefty socialists. If you read very early Superman he's very squarely an FDR Democrat. His early adventures show him taking on slumlords, crooked businessmen, and corrupt politicians. It was only later that he turned his focus towards criminals and eventually crazy spacetime scifi wackiness.
>>82428100
>the bathtub scene was far from being inappropriate for children
I'm referring to that scene because I know parents that didn't let kids go because of it. I don't disagree with anything you wrote.
DC aliened a lot of the potential target audience with the direction alone, the movie not being great was the final nail in the coffin.
Deadpool aliented a lot with it's R rating, but it succeeded in doing what it set out to achieve.
>>82428802
Venom. It sold as much as it did because of Venom.
However people LOATHED raimis interpretation of him and most of the movie was unwatchable shit.
>>82429176
You're right. But the problem is, they are both an interpretation that is not completely different from the ones that exist in the public conscious and worse, they are BADLY HANDLED different interpretations.
Supes is a boring selfish twat that hates his powers and sees the use of them as a horrible burden.
Batman is just a murderous retard.
Snyder honestly should not have been given superman or batman. They should have just given him a loud flashy actiony Justice league with no thought put into it other then making versions of the heroes that the public likes doing something crazy or actiony against a big bad monster(s).
Fuck, marvel should have scalped him and got him to do an incredible hulk. Would have loved to see what he could have done with that.
His entire thought process on heroism and all of that would mesh perfectly with the hulk.
As a matter of fact, when DC/WB throws him under the bus for the collective fuck up that was BvsS would Disney approach him?
Will he use this as an opportunity to save face/his rep as a director?
That's a shame, it was a way better movie than Civil War.
>>82429412
>Will he use this as an opportunity to save face/his rep as a director?
Honestly, what rep? This is a serious question. He's never been creatively or commercially successful. If you look at RT or MetaCritic ratings, his movies have at best ever only achieved mediocre scores. He's shown with MoS and BvS that even playing at the highest level he can't really hit a home run.
Why would Marvel want him when they have the pick of the industry?
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>>82429492
>>82428564
>Being THIS wrong
Will he eat crows and dicks on his next video?
>>82429492
Not really. If you cut away all ties to the comic and look at the film as its own thing, you barely connect with anyone.
>>82429520
Pick of the industry and they pick litteral fucking no names?
Are you shitting me?
As for rep. He's the guy that does those big flashy action movies. Everyone knows what the guy is about and that can get people into theatres. However he's been shitting the bed hardcore with sucker punch and now the dc movies.
He's trying to be deep when he just needs a mindless actiony iconic set piece with a simplistic story.
Hulk fits his direction style to a T.
>>82425269
>all the movies with actual human characters that fuck up, stumble and get back in the fight have done well
Am I supposed to be surprised?
>>82427100
>That's the most damning thing for BvS: that bad word of mouth is going to hit Justice League harder than it hit BvS.
By that logic, BvS should've already done worse because MoS was a blunder.
Not to forget Bayformers, that pulls people back into theaters no matter how bad the previous movie was.
>>82429623
Supes isn't an orphan, his mom's alive.
>>82429640
Bayformers at least is a fun trainwreck, BvS was dull and depressing as fuck.
Bay also has better CGI and action sequences.
We're really entering a weird era of comic book movies. All the well known origins have been tackled and they no longer have the luxury to reboot this stuff. They have to keep going no matter what.
>>82429707
His real mom you dolt
>>82429718
HAAAAA!
>>82429603
>He's the guy that does those big flashy action movies.
That's Michael Bay, who has a proven track record of making big dumb action movies that make shit-tons of money.
As you say, Snyder thinks he's capable of being "deep" which cripples his action movies from being dumb fun. They're just dumb, dull, and plodding.
If you're looking for a guy to make a no-brain action fest, you're going to call Bay first.
>>82429640
MOS not being well received is why Batman's name is in the title first
>>82428564
>game over, you lose
>>82429747
Martha Kent is his real mom. She raised him from birth. S
You must really hate adopted kids.
>>82429718
CAPTAIN AMERICA IS COMING BACK TO EARTH!
>>82429718
my fucking sides!
>>82429794
Who is this person?
>>82429777
Michael Bay might make for a good Hulk movie if only because then he'd have justification for his military wank.
>>82429794
>>82429807
You must really not understand what orphan, birth, real or mom mean.
>>82425376
Spider-Man 3 was the BvS of its year. They hype around that film was fucking MASSIVE.
I remember people thinking its critical failure was a sign that superhero movies were dying down and that the fact studios were desperate enough to try with C-listers like Iron Man showed that they were on their last legs.
>>82429853
It's obviously the twitter account of the anon who posted it
>>82429891
No, you don't. Clark's not an orphan, he has the Kent family. He was adopted and raised by them.
You must really not understand what adoption means, or else don't consider the family that took in and raised a child their family.
Superman NOT being an orphan is key to his character. He was raised in a loving home by good parents.
>>82428695
I have a strong feeling F4 will end up at Marvel around 2020, replacing a potential GOTG 3. And the DCEU will morph into the Batman Cinematic Universe, featuring other DC heroes in a Brave and the Bold format, but no one outside the Bat family will get a solo movie.
>>82429988
>And the DCEU will morph into the Batman Cinematic Universe, featuring other DC heroes in a Brave and the Bold format, but no one outside the Bat family will get a solo movie.
You make it sound like its a bad thing.
>>82429988
It's probably one of the main reasons why they completely shelved Inhumans instead of changing the release date.
>>82426430
Honesty.
A lack of pretension.
>>82429982
Oh hey look, you're factually wrong!
>>82429988
What the fuck are they even gonna do after Infinity War? They should just end it, but they won't.
>>82429975
There were a cluster of shit cape films like Daredevil, Catwoman, Elektra, Blade: Trinity, and Superman Returns that came out in the mid-2000s that made people think the modern comic book craze kicked off by X-Men in 2000 had fizzled.
The Nolan and Marvel movies started the second cape wave. It's possible we may be entering a second low period through oversaturation.
>>82429988
>>82430074
in an ideal world, That date is either going to Marvel's FF or Thunderbolts.
Of course they make just give it to a Spidey sequel or Iron Man 4
>>82430129
Dark Avengers and/or Thunderbolts are a strong possibility. Feige would be foolish to build towards another universe ending bad guy. It may be possible to keep it smaller and explore the universe you have built up. I don't know what could happen.
>>82430129
3 phases of introducing more new heroes while developing the newly introduced ones like ANTS, Spidey, Strange, Panther and Captain Marvel, it all ends in Secret Wars by Phase6.
>>82430127
Oh hey look, you don't understand that page!
Superman is comforting a kid. What's he going to say to a crying child who just lost his family? "That must be rough, kid, but I wouldn't know what it's like cause my parents are back in Kansas"?
Supes says it himself: he found a family here. He didn't even know he HAD any other family until he was a teen and learned about his alien origin.
Sorry, he's not and never was an orphan.
>>82425821
Sequels tend to do better. There is a reason why Hollywood loves them.
If anything it's fucking amazing literally-who characters like the Guardians are there at all.
Some of you may not be willing to get this but it turns out that when your final marketing push for your movie includes
>It's going to be too smart for you
and
>you shouldn't take your kids to it
It's going to suffer financially.
>>82429988
Please God let the FF come back to Marvel so we can get Doom, Galactus, the Silver Surfer, Kang, Annihilus, and all the other awesome shit associated with the FF.
All this means is that WB needs to reconsider their budgets for future installments instead of pouring too much money into their projects.
Justice League is still happening, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman are still coming out, and both look pretty interesting movies offering something different from the stale formula that is the MCU.
>>82430023
Regardless of potential quality, I would like to see the characters be able to hold their own, somehow, without the need of Batman.
>>82430364
Is someone going to get raped in Justice League?
>>82430281
>superman says he's an orphan
>"the author and Superman are wrong! That ruins my interpretation!"
Superman would be humble enough admit he was wrong in your situation, anon
>>82430364
The problem is that BvS was already different, and it didn't mean it was better.
>>82430517
the audience's expectations
>>82430517
The audience's wallets
>>82430580
>having expectations
If you didn't learn after Sucker Punch, you'll never learn.
>>82430563
I disagree, it was just what the doctor ordered
>>82430517
I bet you 20 bucks someone got raped in the "R" extended cut of BvS, probably Barbara, Mercy, Lex or even Robin.
Wait for the BR and see it happen.
>>82430635
I wish we'd know the date already
>>82430536
>Superman would be humble enough admit he was wrong in your situation, anon
Guess who taught him that?
Look, Superman is an orphan that never got the true orphan exprience. Can we drop it now?
>>82430683
MARTHA
>>82430623
Unless you mean the doctor ordered poison for the franchise, you're objectively wrong.
BvS has dug WB a pretty deep hole. It's not clear it can climb out.
>>82430418
I'd like to see a captain marvel movie, Billy would be fun.
>>82430694
To be fair, no one expected it to be that bad, not even in our more pesimistic dreams.
>>82430738
You seriously had hope after Sucker Punch and MoS?
>>82425269
>>82425376
Both Spider-Man 1 and 2 pass BvS if adjusted for inflation (adjusting only domestic)
>>82425990
10/10
>>82425269
>tdk below tdkr
>sm3 above sm1 and sm2
>im3 above anything
>>82430736
>BvS was so cancerous that Hans gave up on composing for superhero movies
Mmmmmmm boys.
>>82430694
that was clearly a bait image made by Marvel fans tho
>>82430707
Who is apparently not his mother.
>>82430826
I know, shame on me, but will all the talent (aside Hack Snyder) and material and time devoted to this movie, did you really expected to be worse than freakin Spidrerman3 or claim less money than Deapool?
>>82427056
You mean your"arachnads"
>>82429603
>Pick of the industry and they pick literal fucking no names?
...Well yeah, man. Because "fucking no names" will do what they're told, while big names come with egos attached and will insist on their "vision" for better or worse.
Marvel very clearly wants people that are willing to play the game and contribute to the universe rather than go rogue. They learned that lesson with Terrence Howard, Edward Norton; and Edgar Wright. You get to be too big a diva, you fuck off.
And the thing is, it's working for them. Were it not, it might be different, but it is.
>>82431040
I expected the movie to be bad, but I still thought it would hit a billion.
>>82431040
>expected to be worse than freakin Spidreman3
Eisenberg and edgy Superman lines in the trailer killed my hype
>claim less money than Deadpool
After I heard about how terrible it was, I was certainly hoping for it.
>>82426503
You can partly blame the American audience for that. they also keep watching Rogens and Franco tandem movies which are also produced by Sony
>>82428564
This guy is "Flash show won't have time travel shenanigans" levels of wrong
>>82430736
>/co/ is like /pol/
Ha, ha ha ha.
Is this is this nigga serious?
HAHAHAHA!
>>82431102
CARLOS, YOU MOTHERrrrrr...hey, I actually like that one.
>>82430736
>/co/ is like /pol/
>>82431454
Holy shit.
Saved.
>>82431454
>No red nose
One fucking job and you can't even do that right. Kill yourself.
>>82431454
Holy shit, this is fucking awesome. Is OC?
>>82425269fireball
>>82431631
>international BO places CW at 7th on its first week
Damn that money is gonna make bank
>>82425269
>especially when Batman v Superman cost such a huge amount to make.
The movie only had a slightly higher budget then Guardians of the galaxy.
>>82427152
Its the first 'true' movie in the Xmen CU. Not counting Wolverine origins. Everything else follows a direct chronology.
>>82425925
Nobody said it would ever be the biggest movie of the year
>>82431837
>Batman and Wonder Woman only managed to add 160 million more to the Superman solo movie
>both movies are critically panned
There's also the fact that BvS opened with a massive 500 million opening weekend, the biggest in superhero history.
And even then, it got gigantic drops of around 60-70% each week, for a total of 95% drop in 4 weeks.
Why?
Abysmal word of mouth, there's nothing else, people didn't like it.
Either that, or turns out more than half the people who were interested in the movie watched it on release.
The problem here is that BvS had to seal the reputation of the DCEU and solidify it's status as a franchise, and turns out both critics and a fuckload of people hated it.
So, the franchise begins with the big guns, with Superman. What happens? Very divisive movie, people have their doubts, some dislike it.
They brought Batman and Wonder Woman.
More of the same, but with even more dislike, probably due to everyone realizing DC is rushing everything to bring in their own Avengers.
Do they need the entire goddamn Justice League to convince people?
And even then, are Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg going to change anyone's opinion, even more with Snyder making JL?
What made people expectant for Avengers was the build up, seeing the origin of everyone, and how it all came together.
DC made one solo movie, and in the next movie we have seen the entire Justice League in different forms.
In the end that's the problem, people didn't like the movie.
>>82431837
>Nigga who isn't hype for [whatever this anon is]
Me.
>>82431722
It was a $195.9 million after tax credit.
That said BvS will likely never share true numbers of budget. they just sit on that 250 Million mark even though it's not possible to make that film with those actors with that amount of advertising, product placement and the like on just that.
>>82431837
>what is A listers vs B and C listers
>>82431722
BVS had to pour a whoooooole lotta money into it's promotional budget
>>82431837
Dude, who the hell is hype for Wonder Woman.
>>82431102
FUCKING DIE IN A FIRE YOU SHIT
>>82431882
What a metric ton of projecting
How about we all wait to see how Squad does in 3 months before discussing the societal mindspace of the DCEU
>>82431882
This
I have no interest in JL I will likely not ever make it a priority to see any of the DC films unless I hear good things from those I trust which will be hardly anyone since all but one friend feels the same way as I do.
>>82431837
850mil is a bad return when you just fired the biggest gun in your holster. This was their Avengers.
Marvel took time to build a reputation up for their blockbusters to land big. DC thought they could do it in reverse.
>>82431837
>Nigga who isnt hype for Suicde Squad
People that are sick of Batman and Joker?
>>82431973
>projecting
What?
I'm just stating what has happened.
Nolan's Batman was established with TDK, just a sequel.
Marvel was established with Iron Man 2, just a sequel.
But the DCEU is not established with a movie with Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman?
The problem here is that not only people didn't like it, but this is all the DCEU can do, because I seriously doubt Flash, Aquaman or Cyborg will bring in more people, or compensate for the audience they probably lost.
>>82432058
Tryhards on /co/ don't count
>>82431941
More people than what you believe. Mainly, the BvS film was so bad, there have been lots of posts and articles saying WW was one of the best things of the film, if anything because she had the less exposure.
However, most of these places are tumblr and the like, so they would be hype if they announced a film about WW shitting for 30 minutes, if anything because is progressive and girl power, and stuff.
>>82431973
>projecting
Then how do you explain BvS?
Most people who were interested just watched it the first week?
They only managed to interest as many people as Ant-Man, and the rest was residual?
>>82432061
Youre projecting again.
>>82432075
Tryhards on /co/ made it look like BvS was going to make Avengers money, so yeah, they don't count.
>>82432108
If you are already in scratched-disc mode and you are just going to reply the same things over and over, then say so.
If no, refute the argument, tell me what happened to BvS.
>>82431912
What does after tax credits matter, movie cost 230 million and was overbudget
>>82431932
Everyone does
>>82432108
I'm not sure you know what that word means.
>>82432138
A lot of people besides /co/ thought it was going to be DC's Avengers?
