http://www.vox.com/2016/5/2/11565932/zack-snyder-justice-league
>"Everyone says that about Christopher Nolan’s Batman Begins. "Batman’s dark." I’m like, okay, "No, Batman’s cool." He gets to go to a Tibetan monastery and be trained by ninjas. Okay? I want to do that. But he doesn’t, like, get raped in prison. That could happen in my movie. If you want to talk about dark, that’s how that would go.
Jesus christ... what is he even saying?
I'm starting to think Snyder might actually be mentally retarded.
>>82418907
took you long enough
>You could call it "high-brow" comics, but to me, that comic book was just pretty sexy!
>I had a buddy who tried getting me into "normal" comic books, but I was all like, "No one is having sex or killing each other. This isn’t really doing it for me."
>I was a little broken, that way. So when Watchmen came along, I was, "This is more my scene."
What is wrong with this man
>>82419012
What the fuck is "kino"? A hot new /tv/ meme?
>>82418907
He is saying that he doesnt believe Nolan's movies were dark, that in his opinion human suffering most be portrayed on the movie to call a movie dark.
Now you can be a retard and pretend he wants to rape batman
>what is he even saying
He's saying that Nolan's Batman wasn't a dark take on the character as people male it out to be.
He's right.
>>82419047
It's some retarded meme that gets spewed out in every BvS, usually by idiots defending the film by considering it some form of higher art, implying that all other superhero films are, by default, trash.also, kino means theater in german
Is he trying to say Batman should be raped by Tibetan ninjas?
>>82419077
>>82419150
>A child watching his parents shot to death in an alley grows up with no sense of purpose other than to inflict violence on the faceless entity of crime to cope isn't dark for this modern age
Sexual assault is the only shade of "dark" now? Should Chill have raped him in the alley?
If Bruce didn't get into the batsuit and was just a rich guy torturing criminals and psychotics in Gotham like some shit out of Saw we'd all be saying the concept is plenty dark. Even though it would be more or less the same concept minus aesthetics.
>>82418907
Can we get Zack committed?
>>82419008
>This guy is in charge of an entire universe
End me
>>82419324
Apparently having your parents get shot in the face isn't dark enough.
I've always wondered what a 90s nostalgiafag looks like and now I get to see that it's a really sad thing to look at.
Snyder's take on Batman isn't dark at all, though.
>>82419289
Yes.
Thank fuck he isn't directing the Batman movie.
>>82419324
It isn't that dark anon, some portrayals can make it dark but Bruce seeing his parents gun down in front of him is old hat.
>>82419324
>Should Chill have raped him in the alley?
Maybe batman should rape Chill
Wait...Wait..WAAAAAIIIIIIT!.
What if!
WHAT IF!!
Snyder is the one pushing the "Gordon rape" meme here?
Who will be raped in the Justice League?
Wonder Woman? Cyborg? Lois Lane?
>>82419924
The audience.
>>82419794
Old hat in the sense of us being readers and viewers not being shocked.
That's his problem. He thinks shocking=dark.
A story where someone's child dies is dark. But Snyder figures "Byt we've all seen dead baby movies, that means it isn't dark anymore".
Just because we've all seen Moral Orel doesn't mean all cartoons with child abuse and emotional neglect are no longer dark subject matter.
I genuinely am starting to wonder if he has some kind of mental issue where empathy is reduced. Him thinking a moral code about not killing is meanless without knowing what it feels like to kill was the first indication, then him figuring that because he himself cannot take in-costume dialogue seriously that nobody can is the second.
I'm not even bashing his works right now, I do legitimately have a suspicion that he's mentally damaged in some way.
>>82419324
Because at the end of the day Batman is still a power fantasy as far as most stories and people are concerned.
>>82419967
No, the audience is forced to watch him rape the story.
Actually, someone send that idea to Matt and Trey.
"Hey Zack, thanks for letting me direct the next Batman movie."
"No problem, Ben. And you'll have total control, it's your baby all the way."
"Thanks man, I appreciate that. I have some pretty exciting ideas I want to run by you."
"Yeah, yeah, but...listen. Like I said, it's your show, but there's one thing you have to do."
"Uh, sure, Zack. What is it?"
"Batman has to get raped."
"...what?"
"Raped. In prison."
"But...why?"
"Because it's deep and shit, Ben. It's mature. You get it?"
"I don't really..."
"Sorry, Ben. Either Batman gets raped in prison or you don't get to do the movie."
"Well...well...okay....I, uh...I guess I could write that scene in..."
"Scene? Oh, sorry, no. I meant that he gets repeatedly raped in prison. Like every 10 minutes in the film. More rape equals more mature and more philosophy."
>>82420029
>TL:DR
>>82420029
7/10, Should've been a direct transcript of the "he has to fight a giant spider" exchange.
>>82419008
>I had a buddy who tried getting me into "normal" comic books, but I was all like, "No one is having sex or killing each other. This isn’t really doing it for me."
>I was a little broken, that way. So when Watchmen came along, I was, "This is more my scene."
Snyder is literally the 90s. This is exactly what went wrong in the late 80s/early 90s: lesser writers saw the success of things like Watchmen, but didn't or couldn't understand the nuance and depth and instead saw VIOLENCE AND SEX AND DARKNESS and tried to ape that in their comics.
Snyder is the Grimdark Era in human form.
>>82419398
>one of the largest film studios on the planet gave the keys to one of the biggest franchises in modern popular culture to a guy who doesn't understand or give an iota of a fuck about superheroes
Why is WB so inept at making good live action superhero movies that don't involve Nolan or Donner?
>>82419975
I think your problem is that you're just trying to stretch this comment into something else.
I wonder who gave him this idea.
>>82419922Lick Jim Gordon's Ass
>>82420054
To think.
Nicholas Cage in transparent purple fighting a giant robot spider that makes constant puns is now actually far better of a Superman and Batman movie than we got.
>>82420029
>Flashback scene
>a teen Bruce is arrested on misdemeanor charges
>raped in prison
>Bruce wakes up from his vision
>he's in prison
>gets raped
>the ordeal is finally over
>he goes back to his cell in shame
>gets raped
>finally his last day in jail
>he's in a holding cell waiting to be processed for release
>gets raped
>gets released
>suddenly a vision of the future
>Batman is overwhelmed by an army of Superman's soldiers
>Superman chains him down, rips off his mask
>he gets raped
>Bruce wakes up from his vision
>he realized he was being raped in his sleep
>>82420114
I think this meme needs to be upgraded with Bullock protesting he never gets any kudos for raping the Joker.
Because the joke is really stale now. It was never that funny, but its approaching Carlos levels of eyerolling.
>>82420105
Nope, that anon is right. Snyder has said some pretty bizarre things that show a really skewed understanding of human behavior and morality in general.
The "Superman has to kill to see why killing is wrong" thing is genuinely disturbing.
>>82419975
>I genuinely am starting to wonder if he has some kind of mental issue where empathy is reduced
He's an objectivist. So it's not a mental issue so much as a belief system.
>>82419975
No, I mean old hat in the sense it's been done to death. We all know the origin, we even make fun of it from time to time
>MUH PARENTS ARE DEAD
The truth of the matter is that Batman's origin is a cliche to us and it has lost it's gravitas.
>>82419324
>grows up with no sense of purpose other than to inflict violence on the faceless entity of crime to cope isn't dark for this modern age
Probably because that's not what Batman is in general and surely wasn't in the Nolan trilogy
>>82420188
>that anon is right
He's not though, he just went off an complete tangent and confused the issue.
>>82420213
But you don't add "gravitas" by just being more shocking. That's an adolescent's idea of what meaning and maturity is.
Like having Bruce's parents tortured to death in front of him isn't adding new depth to the story, it's just edgy grimdark bullshit.
"Darkness" is emotional. If you want something to have more of an impact find a way to up the emotion, not the gore.
>>82420188
>genuinely disturbing
Maybe to a pussy like you.
>>82420293
We get that you love Snyder, but you need to face the fact that your idol may have mental issues.
The Superman we see in MoS and BvS is how Snyder sees the world, a grim alien baffled by humanity.
>”What happened to Bruce Wayne’s parents?” ”They were killed at an opera.”
>>82420320
No, to any normal person. Most people learn that killing is bad and hurtful without killing people themselves. You don't need an origin story for it.
For someone to think that you do shows that something is very wrong with them.
>>82420343
>a grim alien bafgled by humanity
That's not MoS or BvS portrayed Superman.
Snyder's gonna bring that "Clark Kent getting raped by a Kryptonite monster" screencap to the big screen.
The DCEU is saved.
>>82420029
I would paypal this porn movie
>>82420213
The truth of the matter is that a shitty origin has fuck-all to do with a character being considered "dark." 9/10 superheroes have shitty origins involving death or assault of some kind.
Yea, Batman is frequently grimmer than most, and has a higher ratio of darker stories than most, but even those things are entirely dependent on the writer.
I really don't understand how you can get mad at this when for a long time Adam West was considered THE Batman. Zach is a moron but you and he both are going about this in completely the wrong way.
>>82420383
Most people learn to appreciate life even more after taking a life.illustrates the fragility of it all, which is without a doubt what Synder actually meant.
>>82420375
>They were killed BY an opera
And thus Die Fledermaus was born.
>>82420425
Meant for >>82419975
>>82420469
Champion of Justice! Impeccable baritone!
>>82420029
>I meant that he gets repeatedly raped in prison. Like every 10 minutes in the film. More rape equals more mature and more philosophy.
I'm destroying my sides imagining the film just being a series of flashback Bruce has in between the inmates taking turns on him.
Every time someone plunges into him it cuts to Batman bringing them down in the past and ends when they finish inside.
Then it's revealed he didn't even do any of the Batman stuff, it's just a coping mechanism from being the prison bitch.
I know the scary thing is Snyder might actually think something like this would be genius and get ideas, but that's what makes it even more hilarious.
It's so dense.
>>82420307
I don't even think you know what you're arguing about anon. You keep trying to make it about Synder confuses Dark for shocking but that's not really what is being discussed.
>>82420511
Well that's pretty much Sucker Punch anon.
>>82420402
If we get live action Kryptofuck, I will take back everything I've ever said.
>>82420290
>The scene where a still raw Bruce Wayne goes into mafia territory to meet Falcone and directly but aimlessly confront crime didn't happen
Oh well then.
>>82420584
he wasn't batman when he did that and he got shut down for trying
>>82420530
You're the one who's confused, anon, because that's exactly what's being discussed.
You can be wrong but at least try to keep up.
I wonder if Batman will rape the Joker in the DCEU.
>>82420559
That's what I was thinking
In the new Batman movie, Batman is just the Punisher. He wanders the streets of Gotham murdering and branding criminals.
>People still attempt to defend Zack Snyder as a misunderstood genius even when it's blatantly obvious that the man is a complete moron and an artistic void.
>>82418907
>I'm starting to think Snyder might actually be mentally retarded.
Have you seen Sucker Punch?
>>82420088
Isn't his wife one of the producers? Is Zack a manwhore?
>>82420584
So you stopped watching the movie there or following a character arc is too difficult for you?
>>82420698
>Synder made Batman the pubishwr
Is this a forced meme or something? Are we really ignoring how many Heroes are actual killers and that Punisher is by no means unique in that aspect?
>>82420738
He probably thinks he's some kind of genius because everybody dies in his movie and he probably compares that to Shakespeare without having any understanding of why Shakespeare gets praise in the first place
>Snyder thinking Batman getting raped is a good way to show how dark he is
>Jared Leto pulling childish pranks on set and Ayer tripping shit over it.
It's incredible. Simply incredible.
They've taken the "DC is laughably dark and melodramatic" joke and took it as a challenge.
There's NOTHING we can do or say that'll top what they're doing as professionals.
>>82418907
Why do you care? If you don't like the man or the movies he makes then all you have to do is not give a shit.
>>82420763
Wait, is Suckerpunch supposed to be proof of his retardation or disproof of it?
>>82420616
>>82420806
I know what he was during that scene, I did not say Batman walked in to talk to Falcone.
Bruce had grown up feeling powerless and morally lost, wanting people like Chill to hurt at any cost because of what happened. He's laughed off, goes on a quest to fulfill the desire until during it he learns from al Ghul how bleak it can become.
So you can argue he only matured when he became Batman but the idea Bruce did not grow up as I described is saying the first act of Begins did not happen.
Which makes no sense because the entire point of him becoming Batman revolved specifically around that exact drive as his motivation.
>>82420726
We're gonna need a bigger piss jar.
>>82420855
If you have to ask, I have some bad news for you..
>>82420511
>>82420559
I laughed out loud.
>>82420467
But that's the problem.
Snyder decided that for Superman's no kill code to mean anything, Clark Kent must go through Deer Hunter.
That's not even going into how he made Superman autistic to make him seem more alien.
>Sensitive to loud noises
>Disproportionate anger or happiness
>Difficulty connecting to others on an emotional level
>Inappropriate response to grief
>Difficulty coming to conclusions without being presented with them as an option
Which is just in the first movie.
>>82420907
Hey, I've seen people claim that the movie was a misunderstood masterpiece just like Snyder's other shit. So I'm honestly not sure what you're implying.
Personally, I thought it sucked balls.
>>82420855
>>82420907
Anon answered for me.
>>82420726
NECK VS ASSHOLE
HANDS VS RUFFIES
RACE KILLER VS SEXUAL DEVIANT
IF MAN WILL NOT RAPE GOD, THE DEVIL WILL DO IT
Nothing says badass like getting raped.
What a fucking retard.
>>82420467
Yeah, that's fucking bullshit. The vast bulk of humanity appreciates the value of life just fine without having to kill first. If you don't, you're literally a psychopath.
Next up in the sequel:
Superman robs a liquor store in order to appreciate the value of running a business.
Superman steals a bunch of cars in order to appreciate the value of private property.
Superman takes a shit in some guy's breakfast in order to appreciate the value of pure food.
>>82420947
He's an edgy boy who never gre up put of highschool.
He should be directing DmC instead of Justice League.
>>82420086
>>82420009
>Batman is a power fantasy
Um, I dunno about that. Being rich and fighting bad guys sounds cool but then there's the depression and suicidal thoughts, constant existential crisis's, Psychotic villains who could kill your loved ones at any time, being targeted by villains and police alike, Living in a city with no sunlight, no sleep, no social or love life, no parents or immediate family, etc. Its just too much of a shit show to be considered a fantasy.
>>82420690
jesus fucking christ the meme magic won't stop
>>82420942
Well these people are either trolling or retarded. Or possibly both.
Sucker Punch was Snyder's pure vision put on film. It was a window into his artistic mind,
>the abyss stares also
>>82421025
Twist: Superman rapes the Joker in the DCEU.
Though he's a bro so he passes Joker around the Justice League for sloppy seconds.
>>82420934
I need a Clark Kent/CWC copy pasta like pic related fucking stat.
Why doesn't Alfred just rape Superman?
>>82421021
The bad sides of being Batman are almost always an afterthought. It's the writers adding a little darkness when they realize they're getting too close to Batman 66. (not that there's anything wrong with that)
>>82420029
Actually... I would pay to see this.
Wonder Woman fought Nazis longer than any superhero in comics history.
Cap was changed to fighting HYDRA not-Nazis while Wondie was still punching SS super scientists.
Why the hell is she fighting in World War 1 and skipping World War 2?
>>82421134
Don't worry, it will be in theaters in a couple of years.
>>82421109
You can't rape the willing, anon.
>>82420029
Batman could definitely take it if he had enough prep-time.
>out of context pull quote from decade old interview
I expect from this from fanboys and the like. But for mainstream journalism outlets to pervert the nature of their own profession like this is just embarrassing
>>82418907
He is staggering amounts of immature.
Batman lives in constant terror because he's unable to tell what's real and what's a coping fantasy while he's being raped.
The movie will have constant random breaks where Batman is fighting a criminal or walking down the street as Bruce Wayne, when suddenly it flashes to him being raped. He never knows when he's being raped and when he isn't.
That's why he's so filled with rage and paranoia in the DCEU.
Alright, show of hands, is there anybody even slightly excited for Justice League anymore?
Anyone even plan on seeing it?
>>82421336
Take it even further, anon.
In the constant haze of rape and reality, when Batman wakes up to a rape sometimes he's being raped, and sometimes he's doing the rape. Sometimes it's Superman or Alfred or Thomas Wayne or Doomsday.
His life is a swirling vortex of rape.
>>82420971
>most people appreciates The value of human life
No they don't cause if they did then why would people ever suffer? What you mean to say is that society taught us not to murder the fucker standing next to us.
>>82421378
I'm excited in that I wonder how bad it will be.
I didn't think BvS could be worse than MoS, but somehow it was. What new depths of shit can Snyder achieve?
>>82421378
I'm more excited for Suicide Squad, to be honest. I want to see Batman in a movie not directed by Snyder, and the trailers looked good.
And I'm anxious for the Aquaman movie, because a Wan-directed deep sea movie was what I was really looking forward to. Fingers crossed.
But yes, of course I'm gonna see the Justice League, for I am weak.
>>82420835
I don't think Synder is saying raping Batman is a good idea as so much he's saying that Batman getting raped would be dark while Nolan's Batman is just a cool ninja.
>>82421336
Will Batman be dancing, too? Like, to old tunes from a grammophone that Ma Kent plays for him?
>>82421378
>Anyone even plan on seeing it?
Purely for laughs
I have a good feeling that if Zack is allowed to continue his current course of action, we'll get more mustached Flash, and I find that pretty funny. Just imagine more scenes of that god damn mustache
>>82420866
no, him becoming batman revolved around his parent's death, not him trying to inflict mindless pain on falcone
you don't understand the character and you don't understand the movies, stop typing so much shit when what you're saying can be summarized in about one sentence
>>82421336
>>82421436
>He never knows when he's being raped and when he isn't
>sometimes he's being raped, and sometimes he's doing the rape.
RapeceptionDING
>>82421456
>inb4 Superman looking at the Earth and thinking if everyone could see what he does humans would ndver fight each other again
>>82420054
Kevin Smith is a stupid whiny cunt but that story made me laugh so hard.
>>82421378
I am genuinely interested to see how the Wonder Woman movie turns out. Its a neat concept from what has been spilled so far.
Might still end up being bad, but has at least the potential to be good.
Justice League... I don't have a lot of hope for. We are not seeing anywhere near the kind of rethinking of the universe needed to pull this shit out of the gutter, because WB doesn't want to scare people away by showing signs of panic. Their response to realizing that they are driving straight for a cliff isn't to hit the breaks or swerve, but to maintain a firm and steady grip on the wheel and play it cool so the guy in the passenger seat doesn't notice anything is wrong.
>>82421456
>No they don't cause if they did then why would people ever suffer?
I'm guessing because of people like you, anon, people who haven't quite learned not to hurt others and need to do it to find out.
>>82421514
>him becoming batman revolved around his parent's death, not him trying to inflict mindless pain on falcone
You're literally demonstrating poor basic comprehension skills while insisting I don't understand the movie.
>Why don't you just rape the Joker, Batman? You've been there, you know how bad it feels.
>>82421306
This.
All of Snyder's ideas presented on screen and in interviews sound like what a 14 year old would think is cool, edgy, and mature.
It's gotten to the point that Snyder could make a live action adaptation of Coldsteel the Hedgehog and I wouldn't bat an eye.
>>82421486
Sure. It could be an anthology experiment, where Snyder gets to direct the rapes and invites other directors to do the short scenes interspersed between them.
>>82421590
no, you're trying to claim that because his parents were killed, he wanted to inflict mindless violence on a crime world that wasn't taking him seriously
which isn't true; he became batman to prevent mindless violence, not be the cause of it. you're missing the entire point
>>82421599
>It's gotten to the point that Snyder could make a live action adaptation of Coldsteel the Hedgehog and I wouldn't bat an eye.
Warner Brothers Presents a Snyder and CWC Co-Production...
>>82421599
I mean they are making a live-action Sonic movie.
>>82421599
Design document from Snyder's Minions reboot.
>>82421584
So most of humanity then.
>>82418907
I think I honestly wouldn't mind if Nolan directed BvS. He can even do humor, like he did in TDKR.
>>82421273
but is actually true. Znyder intimated that Lex was rape by his father in BvS.
>>82421273
>out of context pull quote from decade old interview
An interview linked in the beginning of the article. http://www.ew.com/article/2008/07/17/watchmen-chat-director-zack-snyder/2
Why does it matter if it was ten years ago when it seems so characteristic of him to say regardless of the year? The author could be reaching a bit with some of his assumptions of what Snyder might actually put in a film(like raep), but part of the article is a retrospective to see how far Snyder has come as a director who understands the source material. The author and some anons here feel it isn't far enough.
>>82421777
>"Meh... *listens to music*"
Every time I read that, I hear it as "Meh... Asterisk listens to music asterisk."
Cause the asterisk don't be silent.
>>82421958
Honestly, this makes it worse.
Because it means after the Nolan trilogy wrapped, someone at WB said, "Ok, we need a director to man our universe crossing movie series. Now, we're putting all our chips on this guy, so it has to be someone special, but who... I got it! Get that guy who said Batman should be raped."
>>82422192
He's not saying Batman should be raped.
Seriously, Why is /co/ so shit at reading comprehension?
>>82422239
But he is, anon.
>>82420402
Better or worse than licking Jim Gordon's ass?
>>82419922
OH FUCK
>>82422258
No he's not.
>>82422239
>"But he doesn’t, like, get raped in prison. That could happen in my movie. If you want to talk about dark, that’s how that would go."
You're one to talk about reading comprehension, buddy.
>>82422327
I see it as him using it an an example as how much darker Nolan's Batman trilogy could've been.
>>82422310
But seriously senpai he is.
>>82422388
Not that anon, but he's literally saying "That could happen in MY movie. That's how [I] would go". If he was using an example he'd say something like "But he doesn't get raped" or "Nolan could've put X in that movie". lrn2read
whoever says cool and camp can't be dark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQiNPqx9018
>>82422388
Hey, that's neat, but uhh, do you see the line where he mentions that he'd be fine with a scene of Batman getting raped?
Because I quoted it right here, if you missed it. >>82422327
>>82422489
>that could happen in my movie
That's him bragging about his control over projects.
>that's how it would go
If you want to talk about Dark batman.
>>82422570
>Snyder literally says Batman could get raped in his movie
>somehow not Snyder saying Batman could get raped in his movie
>>82422570
You're fragmenting that sentence in a really inorganic way in order to assign that meaning to it.
Batman could get fart raped
>>82422514
>>82422489
>>82422481
What you guys fail to grasp os that he's not actually advocating for a darker Batman movie, cause the whole comment is in response to people going on about how Dark Nolan's Batman was and Synder is saying that no it wasn't Dark at all, it was just Batman getting trained by ninjas.
>>82422570
Lear to read, man. English is my 2nd language and even I can understand that Snyder want to put rape in his movies
>But he doesn’t, like, get raped in prison
He doesn't see rape in Batman's backstory, not in Nolan's take
>That could happen in my movie. If you want to talk about dark, that’s how that would go."
He wants to put rape in his take of Batman, because that'd be "dark".
Association, bro. Stop being so fucking stupid
>>82422662
Nolan's Batman is the most realistic Batman could get without falling into Miller's Year One movie script
>>82420029
>COMING FALL 2018
>BATMAN: ANAL ASYLUM
>WHEN IT COMES TO REVENGE, EVIL ISN'T BEATING AROUND THE TUSH
>EXPERIENCE THE HARDEST DAY OF BATMAN's LIFE IN IMAX
>>82422663
"That could happen if I wanted to make a Dark version of Batman"
learn to english fucktard
>>82422621
Nowhere is synder is saying that Batman should get raped, he's only saying that
A)He could because he likes to think he's uncompromising and B)People don't really know what Dark actually is.
>>82421378
I'll see it cos I got a yearly pass.
>>82420560
Yeah, if he abruptly puts that retarded joke monster in one of these movies I will be 100% on board with Snyderverse.
>>82422662
To me, it's not because I think he's advocating for Batman to be raped in order to be dark, it's the stupidity of thinking "uuhh, uhhh, so he could get RAEP that'd be dark" as an example, at all. That's what a fourteen year old edgelord would say. It's so dumb.
>>82422717
Then hows does that ivalidate that Snyder doesn't want to put rape in Batman backstory because that'd be more dark and mature?. He's literally putting (sorry for the expression) "le sickdark edgy" themes because he think it'd make the movie more dark and mature when it'd be more stupid and nonsensical as Hell, he literally think that "normal" comics (as he put it) are boring and what comics shouldn't be
>>82422716
someone call brazzers
>>82422775
>rape is a dark matter to talk about
That's not edgy, that's just a fact.
>>82422716
I'm getting worried how well all this is coming together, seems ominous.
>>82421378
Depends on Wonder Woman
I already know I'm for Suicide Squad, but WW will be what makes or breaks the DCEU for me. Of course, even if WW turns out to be a surprise hit, Snyder still has a pretty good chance of fucking her up once she goes back to him. At the very least, I'll wait a week to see JL and get a sense of the word of mouth, which has been pretty much dead on the money for Snyder's last two super shit movies.
>>82422811
he is answering to people that say that Nolan was dark he is literally saying
"you think that's dark? Pftt, I could show you DARK if I wanted"
>>82422749
>abruptly puts a retarded joke monster in one of their movies.
But, anon, they already did. It's called the DCEU's version of Doomsday.
>>82422811
For Christ's sake he's not all saying he want to put rape in Batmam's backstory, he's saying that Rape would make it an actual dark film.
>>82421378
I'm excited for the trainwreck. If Snyder's pattern of increasingly worse movies holds up it's going to be a glorious mess.
But genuine excitement is only for Suicide Squad and the solo Batman right now. I'm cautious about Aquaman and have little faith in WW.
>>82422919
>"That could happen in my movie."
For an idea he doesn't want, he's really open to putting it in a movie.
>>82422915
Not muh Kryptofuck
>>82422919
It's still a silly metric to judge by.
I don't think Snyder actually wants to direct Batrape, but he seems to think that's the only way he can truly be grim and edgy. As if Bruce seeing his parents murdered and his mentor come back to haunt him aren't pretty rough experiences for someone to go through.
Snyder clearly doesn't understand the superheroes he's been given, which is why we get evening vs slightly later evening. He has a flair for the visually entertaining, but he can't tell a story to save his life.
>>82422868
>>82422919
It's actually in association with a previous statement he did
>You could call it "high-brow" comics, but to me, that comic book was just pretty sexy!
>I had a buddy who tried getting me into "normal" comic books, but I was all like, "No one is having sex or killing each other. This isn’t really doing it for me."
>I was a little broken, that way. So when Watchmen came along, I was, "This is more my scene."
If he did Watchmen is what comics and adaptation should be, then putting rape in Bats backstory doesn't seems out of reach
>>82418907
No, Snyder's anything but retarded. He's actually insane
>>82420985
>Snyder-directed DMC movie.
>>82420088
>Claims snyder doesnt care about the comics
>States Nolan as someone who does
ya dun goofed up
>Ben, I have the PERFECT cameo for Green Arrow in your movie.
>>82422834
Obviously rape is a dark topic, but using rape as a go-to in order to make things DARRK and EGDY is actually over-used, tepid and stupid, and kinda exactly what a teenage wannabe would do.
Of course you can make a mature drama about something like rape. But that is not at all what this is.
There's different kinds of dark.
There's "take this seriously, examine the underpinnigs of the genre" dark.
And there's "let's kill a bunch of people look how badass we are" dark.
There's 40 year old dark and 14 year old dark.
Snyder is the second but you kinofags are confusing him with the first.
>>82423075
nolan movies had more comicbook references than all the other superhero movies put together
but I am not surprised that /co/ doesn't know about comics
>>82420985
Much as I fucking loathe DmC, Snyder would probably do a perfect adaptation of that game. All that edge and tryhard shit suits him to a tee. Sniper rifle abortion and all.
>>82423120
Bvs had more
>>82423120
>nolan movies had more comicbook references
Like what.
>>82423075
I thought he cited Nolan, along with Donner, as someone who is a superior filmmaker
>Alan Moore writes rape
Goddamn genius
>Snyder writes rape
Literally Hitler
Oh look, it's your daily Snyder hate thread.
>>82419891
top quip anon
>>82423243
You do understand that the skill of the writer and his execution of the subject matter is what makes or breaks it, right?
No one topic is universally hated or loved. It comes down to how the author does it. So of course some people will suck at it.
Get off Snyder's cock.
>>82423341
>Alan Moore writes fish rape
Goddman genius
>Snyder jokes about writing rape
Literally Hitler
>>82423341
but he never had batman raped.
He stated that he never felt Nolans bat films went anywhere with its dark ideals, and so Snyder stated he would actually try and focus on said ideals in HIS ideal bat film.
Why you plebs gotta be so darn defensive.
>>82423419
No one has ever defended fish rape. No one.
>>82423656
i wish that were true but it aint
>>82418907
>But he doesn’t, like, get raped in prison. That could happen in my movie.
What the fuck
Why is he in charge of the DCEU
>>82421104
Oh man, I haven't checked in on CWC in a while. Is he still being kind of boring shitty (Which is a step up for him, really) or is he back to being a living disaster?
>>82423656
This fucking thread just proved you wrong.
>>82420343
I think his Luthor is more how Snyder sees the world.
>>82423419
Moore is not a genius due to his fish rape tho, and his constant "rape as a plot mover" has been criticized to the point of it becoming a meme
>>82420846
Because contrary to popular belief, most people don't hate Snyder because of company wars; it's because we would like competent films to come out of the DC universe. Snyder is stopping that from happening.
>>82423243
This argument would maybe hold if everyone didn't constantly shit on Moore for putting rape in everything he does.
>>82418907
Fuck this guy
>>82419198
Kino is also a cool russian band
>>82419047
"Kino" I think specifically refers to "Kino International," a film distributor that specializes in art house and foreign films. Examples of "Kino" films would be "Metropolis" and "Nosferatu".
Imagine if we suddenly started calling CA:CW the "Criterion of Superhero films." It'd be the same except perhaps less obnoxious.
>>82418907
Man, it would be so much easier for me to accept and enjoy BvS if it wasn't for this guy. I keep thinking, "Oh, people just don't get his movies, they're not like normal blockbusters." And then I hear him speak in an interview, and it all goes out the window.
He really is a really unintelligent man who not understand the characters...at all. He thinks just because Batman kills in a few elseworlds (none of the good ones even), that it's ok for him to do it. Never mind the fact that the #1 criticism of his last movie was that Superman doesn't kill people. He just does it again. Everything that works in his movies, must have only been accidents. Because he speaks less fluently, less intelligently, and with less depth than any director I've ever seen. The Russos are TV DIRECTORS and they manage to convey the themes of their Cap movies very well.
The people who hired Snyder, and have given him the keys to franchise after franchise, must be just as stupid and misguided about the properties as he is. And that makes me really uneasy about the future of the DCEU.
>>82427157
his wife is one of the producers
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