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Who /stillhashope/ here? It's the Justice League for goodness
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Who /stillhashope/ here?

It's the Justice League for goodness sake
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Hope? No.
Open mind? Yes.
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>>82411130
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battered_person_syndrome
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>>82411130
>It's the Justice League for goodness sake
No, it's yet another cape movie fucked over by Snyder.
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>>82411138
>X-fags in 2016
>um, I think you're wrong. Plenty of us enjoy the X-titles.
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>>82411143
This.
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>>82411130
Please tell me that's not the rumored JL line up pic we where suppose to get this week.
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Hope isn't realistic OP. This isn't 1938 anymore.
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>>82411130
If the extended BvS explains that Batman wasn't always a BAT OF MURDER and instead went off the rails after the death of robin; then I could forgive BvS and hope for JL.

Currently though Batmanslaughterer ruins it.
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>>82411266
>Currently though Batmanslaughterer ruins it.
Why?
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>>82411224
Looks like a shop of a cast party.
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>>82411130
You're 100% right. It is Justice League...directed by Zack Snyder.
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>>82411130
>DC is shit
>WB is utter shit
>Snyder is cancer
>Everyone walks out
>99% shit tier casting choices
>MoS and BvS are the blunders of the century

what hope?
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>>82411130
It's the Man of Steel for goodness sake!
There's a verbatim quote from All Star in the trailer!
What could go wrong?
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>>82411224
>the rumored JL line up pic we where suppose to get this week.
What?
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>>82411130
>It's Batman vs Superman for goodness sake.
I have hope yeah, but not much. I can't take it anymore
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>>82411339
>>82411253
>another DCEU thread ruined by some negative nannies
Don't you guys have anything better to do?
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>>82411184
I cannot be bothered to even think about going to see Apocalypse. I just have no enthusiasm left
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>>82411266
>>>82411130 (OP) #
>If the extended BvS explains that Batman wasn't always a BAT OF MURDER and instead went off the rails after the death of robin; then I could forgive BvS and hope for JL.

They make it pretty clear it was a mix of being on the job for twenty years, seeing his mission have no real lasting consequences and being burned out, etc. and Superman and Zod's fight making him feel entirely emasculated and weak when witnessing his main boy J-dog dying as the Wayne building collapsed.
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>hope
Hope is for lost causes anon and despite what the shitposters like to pretend, the DCEU is not a lost cause.
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>>82411130
>"Guys, guys, there's no way a movie starring Batman and Superman can be a disaster!"
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>>82411130
I have enjoyed both MoS and BvS, despite their apparent flaws, so I am very excited for next year when we get bith WW and JL pt.1.
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>>82411378
OP asked a question. I just answered. Sorry you're bothered by people having different opinions.
>MUH HUGBOX
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>>82411389
Obviously this.
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>>82411378
Sorry for having opinions
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>>82411378
>another shill shilling

Don't you?
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>>82411383
He's talking bout the comics jeez
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>>82411378
It's one thing to have liked Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, as some people did, and look forward to more of the same in Justice League.
It's another to imply that MoS and BvS left something to be desired. That's inviting critics of those films into the threads.
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>>82411435
>>82411420
>obviously trying to shitpost and turn this thread into an anti DCEU thread
>WE DINDU NOTHING
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>>82411461
>muh persecution
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JL is the finale of the Snyder trilogy

All will be revealed

And alll will be well

Zack is the modern Kubrick
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>>82411461
>OP asks a question
>Anon gives answer, and reason for that answer
>STOP SHITPOSTING GUYS
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>>82411443
Yeah, I'm trying to have a thread without fuckers like you turning it into another spite thread.
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>>82411389
>his main boy J-dog
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>>82411130
>It's the Justice League for goodness sake

Nope, it's the JUST League
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I really hope WB gets its shit together. If the newly improved Suicide Squad is actually good, then we might have a glimmer of hope.
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>>82411130
>It's the Justice League for goodness sake
We said the same damn thing about Batman and Superman being on the silver screen together for the first time ever. And we all saw how things fell apart from that day forward.
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>>82411486
>what is a rhetorical question
OP wasn't actually looking for your opinion.
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>>82411500
Maybe you should tweet Zack and ask him to make a forum on the Cruel and Unusual Films webpage. Short of that, I doubt you'll be able to go anywhere else and not start conversations like this without people making comments that you'd deem spiteful.
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Batman v Superman was a terrific movie. Of course I have high hopes for Justice League.
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>>82411130
BvS was a masterpiece, but that should be the last tragedy. The ending filled me with hope, so if Justice League is another tragedy film then I'm done with it because the characters deserve some happiness. Superman and Batman finally have friends now, so they better be happy in this next movie.
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>>82411537
>what is an opinion
I wasn't looking for yours.
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No John, no hope.
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If they get a better editor then we had on BVS and don't pull any weak "Martha" crap then we should be ok.
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>>82411597
>The ending filled me with hope
Of course. If something that godawful can end, everything wrong with the world can.
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>they seriously think Snyder won't be fired by the end of the year
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What's it like to be a DC fan rn
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>>82411619
You are now remembering Terrio's description of a an emotional scene between Batman and Superman that might bring tears to eyes.
You are now realizing it was the Martha exchange which has become a pop culture punchline.
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>>82411626
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>>82411646
This.
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>>82411654
>The martha exchange, which we have forced to become a meme through loudly shitposting
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>>82411646
>Does it smell like piss in here?
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>its a Faraci gets btfo again weekend

aquamang is still hype
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>>82411130
Someone fucking tell me how the fuck hack snyder is in charge of the complete dc cinematic universe as producer, director and the rest?
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>>82411756
What happened? Lin say he is still completely on board?
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There's only one duo who can save us now.
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>>82411130
Me t.b.h.
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>>82411690
>>82411680
>>82411646
>>82411630
>>82411626
>>82411619
I want /tv/ to leave.
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>>82411646
>everything blows up around you but you're still standing
Sounds about right.
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>Superman shows up 20 minutes before the end and solves whatever problems there are flawlessly and perfectly because he finally learned all there is to learn about being a Superman and now he is perfect and flawless

How does /co/ react?
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>>82411130
More like JUSTice League amirite?
Also why do they keep on pushing cyborg as a JL core member?
Kids know him from TT
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>>82411130
I dont feel any hope for this, just rage
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>>82411929
>Also why do they keep on pushing cyborg as a JL core member?
>Kids know him from TT

Maybe so, but if anything that automatically makes him more popular than Aquaman or Green Lantern. Think of it as WB trying to increase his popularity by using his popularity with the kids as a jumping point.
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>>82411918
This means there has to be a Legion of Superheroes prequel showing him being trained. I think that would be cool.
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>>82411918
10/10 GOAT MOVIE THAT'S MUH SUPES THAT I KNOW AND LOVE.
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>>82411646
Painfully true :c
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My problem is it's Snyder. I don't want to have to wait another movie for DC to start getting good. Hopefully Suicide Squad will show it's not a totally lost cause. But we're already suffering the damages, it's unlikely we'll get anymore Superman films.
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>>82411224
>>82411310
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>>82411130
do you think how many of wb execs that will an hero after JL released?
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>>82411951
Honestly I'm not even passionate enough to be angry about it I'm apathetic about it.
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>>82411798
I want DC films to be better but fuck off with the kino meme.
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>>82411918
>implying supes wont be brainwashed by darkseid and spend 2 movies being evil until last act
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>>82412038
Whole boardroom goes out like Spartans. Like Pottery
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>>82412091
Maybe they'll throw Snyder down a well
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>>82411690
literally the only thing I truly enjoyed in this film was that moment where the senator was staring at the jar going "Wha..."

Then they immediately got back on track with their shitty melodramatic bullshit.

Will someone explain to me how Superman can hear Lois Lane being held at gunpoint/drowning from across the damn planet, but can't see the fucking bomb in a wheelchair? Even more baffling, how can he hear and just fucking know where Lois is, AND NOT HIS OWN FUCKING MOTHER?
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>>82411383
One of the most accurate characters in the film. Fodder for the mansion attack. RIP Jubilee.
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>>82411130
I loved BvS, so yes.
I just hope that the movies by other directors can be somewhat stand-alone and not strictly adhere to Snyder's vision.
It can work like comics, Snyder is the "writter" of a major event, while the other directors are the "writters" of different ongoings that do their own thing except for some details to fit with the event.
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So, when are they gonna just give up and try again? Recast Superman and Batman, and just start over.
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>>82412121
His other brian (penis) has a telepathic connection to Lois vag

He knows when thats in danger and flies the rest of the body to protect it.
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>>82412159
Well we already know that's all gone to Hell with the Flash director leaving over creative differences.
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>>82412121
The bomb probably wasn't timed since Lex wanted to make sure the senator saw the jar
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>>82412177
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>>82412205
Creative differences is almost always a polite cover for something else.
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Its not gonna be great at all. Its going to be DC's Michael Bay-style mediocre cash cow.

I hope for the best, but lets be honest here and temper our hopes just a little.
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>>82412177
This is my headcanon now. Superman can't even fight it, which is why he seems so exasperated at Lois when it happens
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>>82412253
At least Michael Bay doesn't seem to actively hate his audience. he just likes making visually amazing but dumb action movie and is ambivalent to criticism.

Snyder seems to hate the audience for not accepting his decisions with Man of Steel or his personal m story from middle school, Sucker Punch. That's why he makes all these snide remarks and makes a joke of the whole deserted downtown Metroppolis thing.
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>>82412269
Superman flying through the air crotch first.
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>>82412226
Why does her left breast appear to wrap all the way around to her back?
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>>82411137
This, I've been let down too many times by WB/DC to be hopeful.
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>>82412121
Lois is in trouble all the time and barely anyone knows that Superman is Clark Kent. It would make sense to train himself to hear Lois's voice from across the globe but not his mother's, since why would she be in danger?
He couldn't hear the bomb because he was distracted by his own inner turmoil. He even felt bad and stated in the movie that he should have been more alert.
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>>82412459
>It would make sense to train himself to hear Lois's voice from across the globe but not his mother's, since why would she be in danger?
Superman training himself to be able to detect his parents' voices since he was old enough to do so in order to always be able to always find them sounds exactly like what Superman would do.

Maybe not in the Snyderverse, though.
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>>82412169
They should make a cgi animated movie universe, separated from the one by Bruce Timm.
Imagine a cgi Superman movie, with flying scenes like the ones from Big Hero Six, but grander.
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>>82412218
Then who was holding the trigger? Mercy? The woman who was sitting in the room and dies with everyone else? Lex? He wasn't even there, and if the timing of the scene is anything to go by, he probably wasn't watching the camera feed because he'd need to be running his fucking ass off to get out of the blast radius before the bomb goes off.

>>82412459
Wasn't Martha a target of Zod and his flunkies in Man of Steel?

Also, one would imagine that Clark would train himself to be aware of AT LEAST both Lois and his own fucking mother when they are in danger, especially since one of his key character traits in these films is FEAR OF LOSS.

Seriously, the bomb was something I could understand. Superman can't do a full xray vision sweep of every room he walks into. But to hear Lois in trouble TWICE in the movie, and not be able to find Martha when she's in trouble? It's such a clear asspull to force Superman to fight Batman, even though Batman intended to fight Supes anyways!

They only did it this way to prevent Batman from being the Aggressor in the conflict, even though he spends months training and preparing for the inevitable confrontation.

I've actually got a vague idea of how the components of this movie could have been used to greater effect, and how things could have been changed to prevent it from seeming like it was written by a retard, but I'm at 1400 words so I'll save it for another post.
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>>82411847
Two of those are mine, and /co/ has been my home board for 8 years at this point. Fuck off.
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>>82412044
This desu famalam. I was hopeful and angry over every little bit of info that came out about BvS, because I wanted more than what we got in MoS. At this point though, I'm just kicking up the feet and laughing as this trainwreck gets worse and worse
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>>82412205
"Creative differences" could mean any number of things, its probably just that WB didn't want to risk the flash film having a director who's never directed a film, let alone a huge block buster. They probably want someone with more experience.
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>>82412597
It won't make any money ...

tfw people thought Gal Gadot will drag this movie down.
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>>82412591
Oh, but don't you remember? It is established in the Snyderverse that Martha's voice is what Clark would focus on to learn to focus his hearing so he wasn't overwhelmed by every other sound. A call back to his being a little boy in the janitor's closet would have been sweet. Instead, lets just ignore that established fact, and let the voice he recognizes more than any other on the planet get kidnapped and have him not be able to focus his listening for it because...reasons.
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>>82412600
So, here's me spitballing a skeleton of an idea, feel free to tear it apart or disregard it. I am not a professional:

The first and most important thing to change in BvS is the desert scene. Everyone thinking that Superman killed a bunch of people with GUNS is fucking stupid. What should have happened instead is that Doomsday was created earlier in the film. A kryptonian being with powers matching superman's has ravaged several combat zones (where there are fewer potential witnesses) around the world, and Superman is being blamed. This, coupled with the Metropolis incident, further motivates Batman to seek a weapon he can use to stop Superman, and that portion of the movie stays much the same.

Instead of being blackmailed into fighting Batman, Superman is instead ambushed by him as Clark Kent, after Bruce does some motherfucking detective work and discovers that a disproportionate number of Superman interventions involve Lois Lane. They have their fight, which is cut short when Luthor finally loses control of Doomsday and it goes on a rampage in metropolis.

Like I said, I'm no professional, and this has problems, but hey, it's still a cut above everyone believing Superman SHOT A BUNCH OF DUDES WITH BULLETS, if you ask me.

Rip me apart, tear all this shit apart. Or, perhaps, add to the idea. Change it. Make it better. It doesn't matter to me.
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>>82412597
I'm really getting to the point where I think I'd prefer it.
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>>82411571
*terrible
Damn autocorrect
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>>82412918
My god I can't stop staring at this pic. I want this so much.
I think I've seen this body type countless times but always used in parodies and satires of manly arrogant heroes and authority figures. Superman could play it straight for a change.
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>>82411130
Yes
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>>82411130
I'm excited for the trailer at least, and every movie that isn't JL
How could it have come to this
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Anon, there's a fragment of Darkseid in our universe and he works for WB. He's trying to destroy our faith in Superman so he can more easily conquer our world so as to make his reunification that much easier.
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>>82411420
OP literally asked who still has hope. All you had to do was not reply, friend.
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>>82413067
That's the same body type Bruce Timm gives all of his male characters, anon.
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>>82412768
I like this.
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Dr.Manhattan was a better Superman character than Superman.
watchmen is DC, right?
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>>82413564
kill yourself my man
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>>82411378
OH FUCK OFF

Like there weren't nothing but "this is going to be the best movie ever, no negative opinions allowed" hugbox threads for like two years until BvS actually came out
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>>82413564
Superman in BvS was more Dr. Manhattan than Superman
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>>82413564
Blue penis, never erect
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>>82411130
As a Batman fan I hope it fails and DC focuses more on Batman, mostly becuase I hate all the smug DC fags that act high and mighty for disliking Batman.
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>>82411571
In this screenshot it look like Batman has a Stand, looming behind him
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>>82413607
honestly, I was expecting Lex to blame the bombing of the senate hearing on Superman to make him into the movie dr. manhattan, in order to further his own goals.
That didn't happen and the entire senate business was pointless.
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>>82413494
Look at all that meat.
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>>82413494
>>82413700
True. I meant in cgi, all examples I can think are movies like Megamind and even the recent Ratchet & Clank movie ( >>82411720 ) that use this body for parodies or at least never the main characters,
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>>82411130
>hope
>Snyder is literally running things in movies he's not directing
lmao
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>>82412768
Not bad.
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I would like to remind everyone than on Thursday will be Henry Cavill's 33rd birthday.

We should do something nice
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>>82413867
>he's turning 33
We should nail him to a cross.
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>>82412121
>>82412600
>it's a time bomb
>it has to go TICK TOCK TICK TOCK!!!
Why would it have to make any noise at all? Whether it was remote or timed, this is fucking CURRENT YEAR. All electronic devices are digital. Any timer or signal within the chair would be near indistinguishable from the noise that any other digital electronic device makes, and the room was probably full of them.

>>82412600
>But to hear Lois in trouble TWICE in the movie, and not be able to find Martha when she's in trouble?
In Africa, Superman was specifically tailing Lois because he was worried about her. He kept his distance, but came when he heard gunfire.
The second time, Lois was SCREAMING AS SHE FELL FROM A SKYSCRAPER. This makes a person a lot easier to locate than trying to find someone who is hidden and gagged and could be anywhere. Needle in a haystack vs. screaming needle in the sky.

>>82412768
>The first and most important thing to change in BvS is the desert scene. Everyone thinking that Superman killed a bunch of people with GUNS is fucking stupid.
Is this fucking bait? I stopped reading right there. They NEVER said this. Superman's intervention with the terrorists incited government backlash that caused the entire village to get razed. The atrocity was not Superman's doing, but people claim that it was the result of Superman taking out the terrorists and the resulting power-vacuum. This is echoed in Pa Kent's story later, but I'm sure that went over your head too.

You are an absolute kind of stupid, and so is anyone who agrees with you. Snyder was right, his movie was too smart for you retards.
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>>82413833
isn't "producer" just the one who throws the studio's money at the director?
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>>82413882
So deep. So subtle. You should ask Snyder for a job, anon. I think he'd like your style.
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>>82413959
Wow. You sure are mad.

Pull Snyder's cock out of your ass and maybe it won't hurt so much.
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>>82414057
>he results to Snyder-hate and ad hominem because he can't refute the argument

If this is what it feels like to have Snyder's cock in my ass, well, then it can stay right where it is.
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>>82414057
The problem is that people go on tirades against the movie, and hinge their entire arguments on stupid, minute details.

And then it turns out they're wrong about those details anyway because they have the attention span of a 5-year-old.
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>>82414087
>You're a retard!
>You're stupid!
>STOP AD HOMINEMING ME!
>I LIKE SNYDER'S COCK IN MY ASS SO THERE

Like I originally said, I'm fine with having my bullshit attempt at fixing this garbage movie torn apart, but jesus man. What stake do you have in this piece of shit Snyder shat onto our plates that you're so desperate to attack people who dislike it?

Nobody was insulting or disparaging you until you came in a starting calling people retards. Fuck off and calm the fuck down, before you pop a blood vessel.
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>>82413959
You are right in the points you make, it's just unnecessary to get emotional because it will be used as an excuse to not listen to you.
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>>82414250
This is 4chan, though. Where else on the internet can I go if I want to casually call someone a retard during an argument? I guess capeshit is just too serious of a subject.

>>82414161
>What stake do you have in this piece of shit Snyder shat onto our plates that you're so desperate to attack people who dislike it?
I'm desperate to attack people who misunderstand it, or refuse to understand it, even when it isn't very hard to understand. I think it's a shame that one of the more interesting cape movies of our time is being near-universally panned simply because it's not what people expected, or because people were too incapable of picking up plot points that were blatantly delivered to us in dialogue.

Then, the same thing happened with Man of Steel. I don't think Snyder is god's gift to many or anything, but it seems that people see his name on a film and go into it with such a pre-disposition to hate it that they just shut their brains off and invent problems that don't exist.
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>>82411130
No, WB shit on all the hope I had left with BvS.
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>>82413882
underrated
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>>82414354
>I'm desperate to attack people

aaaand I stopped reading here.
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>>82411130
I have hope for DC's movie slate but not JL itself because of Snyder.
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>>82411130
I still do, I liked MoS and BvS, so I want to see all the characters fight together

In time, people will join us in the sun.
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>>82411378
fuck off
seriously i love these fucking characters and there's this one asshole fucking them over constantly and people refuse to do anything about it
and i can't fucking bitch about that? go fuck yourself mate
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>>82413966
No, anon

Producers CONTROL the money. That means they actually run things. And the thing about Snyder is that his wife always produces his movies too with a production company he co-owns and WB is notoriously hands-off as a studio, so he basically has free range.

In short, the DCEU is beyond fucked.
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>We'll never get Batffleck pounding Wonder Gadot in glorious 4D smell-o-vision.

Oh what a world.
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>all this DC gloom and gloom
>from 2 movies
>both directed and written by same guy

Just ignore JUST League then see everything else
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>>82411918
>implying Snyder will do anything but continue to shove the beginning of Injustice Man down our throats.
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>>82415547
I'm going to see Justice League. But I'm sticking mostly to the comics sector again. At least that hasn't been nearly as disappointing.
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>>82411137
I feel like I've been more than fair in watching MoS and BvS in the theater. The next one better have good word of mouth or it's simply just not getting my money
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>>82413867
Send him a card telling him to sundive Snyder
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>>82415417
Nobody ever defended snyder though? People didn't want him to wven dorect MoS.
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>>82411608
Boyega is a great actor but I don't see Cyborg when I look at him.
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Abandoning hope is exactly what Darkseid wants us to do. There's still a small chance that Snyder flukes his way into making a decent movie.
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>>82413882
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>The Batman movie
>The Batman & The Suicide Squad movie
>The Batman & Wonder Woman movie
>The Batman & The Justice League movie
>The Batman & Harley movie
Affleck's 6-picture contract gives me hope
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>>82416354
>The Batman and Harley movie
It better be 4 hours of Batman punching Harley's face in.
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>>82411130
I really hope they'll use Supes' return as an opportunity to reinvent the tone. Heck, maybe that "hope" on his chest might actually mean something!

I mean, I'm not saying I think JL will be any good at all, but I'll at least reserve judgement until I actually see something. But, at least maybe someone will slap some sense into Snyder and it'll at least not be so much in the fashion of the meaningless interpretations of the characters we've got so far.
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>>82415417
I broke the cycle with BvS. Snyder rused me with the MoS marketing. I never expected the optimism MoS trailer #3 suggested. The BvS trailers themselves didnt lend themselves to expecting optimism, but after both movies, I know what I'm getting out of Snyder, and what that is lends itself to not feeling an iota of hope.
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I want to believe that Warner Brothers will make a good Justice League film but I've been hurt too many times before.
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>>82413867
That's also my birthday
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>>82411130
I never lost hop breh
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>>82413867
>33
Hell be fine.
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>>82413239
I share this feel.
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>>82413419
HYPERCRISIS
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When Zack Snyder breaks your heart again, I hope you retards will finally stop posting.
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You just got stuckmanned
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>>82411378
>negative nannies

More like Realistic Rileys.
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>>82411389
>Superman and Zod's fight making him feel entirely emasculated and weak

Alien exist. I must kill now.

JUST
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>>82411537
He should get off 4chan then, and go over to that site.
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>>82418272
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>>82411608
>its "I only follow pop culture" casting
Pretty shitty choice DESU
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>>82418366
>when this is still a better characterization of Supes than BvS
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>>82418396
Would Idris Elba be better pick?
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>>82418272
Batman: why should I help your alien mother?
Batman activates the turrets and uses his grappling hook to pull Superman towards the ground while he is flustered. He proceeds to use the sonics and shoots the kryptonite grenade earlier out of rage that Superman would even ask him for such a request. The fight would continue faster than it did in the movie and Batman would kill Superman because of the lack of MARTHA. Congratulations in not getting the point of that scene.

Lex wins and systematically eliminates the rest of the Justice League before they become the Justice League and Darkseid takes over the world.
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>>82418512
>uses his grappling hook to pull Superman towards the ground
Yeah, the same guy who couldn't even move Supes' chin an inch while punching him with an armored suit is going to pull down Supes unaffected by Kryptonite
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>>82411646
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MYAGyZlBY0
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>>82418571
If Superman were bracing himself it definitely wouldn't work, but because he is being distracted by the turrets he would be caught off guard. Was that really the only part you had issue with?
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>>82418512
whats the point? that batman only bothers to save people who have names similar to people he actually cares about?

sounds like a pretty bad version of batman
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>>82418366
Superman reminds me of my ex-girlfriend.
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>>82418835
>you're not Super, you're not even a Man
Proven wrong. Superman is humanized and Batman realizes that if he goes through with this then he becomes just like Joe Chill.

Not only that, he realizes that Superman can be trusted. This is the type of man who willingly risked his life for the sake of saving someone, a human no less.
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>>82412957
kek
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>>82418282
More like cynical cathies
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>>82411478
The amount of stockholm
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>>82411795
BLACKED when?
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>>82418571
>Yeah, the same guy who couldn't even move Supes' chin an inch while punching him with an armored suit
Best part of the movie
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>>82411918
I'll react by typing out "Still not going to see it." and clicking 'post'.
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>>82411918
It'd be the most hype 20 minutes ever in the theater but then after I walk out I'll remember that Emile Hamilton is dead, Jimmy Olsen is dead, and the persona of Clark Kent is dead
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>>82413067
>Superman could play it straight for a change.
>Superman
>Played straight
>in 2016
If WB were capable of this we wouldn't have this problem in the first fucking place.
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>>82419568
Bryan Singer screwed us over by making SMR both a nostalgia drop and the single most boring movie ever created, and consequently a box office disappointment. After that WB has never seen Superman in the same light again and got their edgiest person to handle him as if it was some kind of compensation
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>>82419241
More like skeptical Sandys
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>>82419673
I know, and that's why I've maintained that we haven't actually had a superman movie that reflects the post-crisis version of the character yet. We had a couple TV shows and a cartoon, but no movies.

It's hard to buy that the movie going public doesn't want the character when they haven't actually gotten it yet.
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I'll be hyped for Part 2 because Zack won't direct it.
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>>82411266
>f the extended BvS explains that Batman wasn't always a BAT OF MURDER and instead went off the rails after the death of robin; then I could forgive BvS and hope for JL.
Read the prequel tie in comics. He went off the rails due to supes though, not Robin.
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>>82411646
Pretty good, just read Rogues Revenge (Final Crisis tie in) last night and loved the shit out of it. Although I think Final Crisis was by far the worst event I've ever read.

Movie wise I got my moneys worth for BvS and whilst I truly wish it was a lot better, I'm still excited for all the upcoming movies.
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>>82411646
It's not THAT bad. DC isn't just movies. They still have some bretty good comics and rebirth coming down the pipelines.

Catching up on some of the new 52 runs and I gotta say, pleasantly surprised. Majority of what I've read is great. Only ones I didn't enjoy so far were Shazam and Supergirl.
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>>82411537
Gee, it seems like he shouldn't have created a thread at all then, retard.

>>82413476
What? He expects people who don't not to post too?
Gee, it seems like he shouldn't have created a thread at all then, retard.

>>82411378
>negative nannies
Jesus fucking Christ. Get off this site.
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>>82412169
DCEU has literally made more money worldwide per film than MCU. Why would they reboot?
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>>82411130
You think Super Cavill will return with a new outlook? Maybe a new suit to boot?
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>>82423634
YES
He comes back brighter and happier, and Batman is ecstatic that his new friend is back. If this doesn't happen then it's over. I actually have a feeling something like this would happen though, judging from the way they interacted near the end of BvS.
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>>82423298
>DCEU has literally made more money worldwide per film than MCU
That's such a dumb idea, where do you even begin?

>the average of two big budget movies starring Superman and Batman than the average of 13 movies starring what were essentially B-Listers, or lower, until they made it big
No shit, Sherlock. And yet TWS alone made more than MoS with a smaller budget. Even fucking AoU made more than BvS with a similar stated budget (though BvS is still in theaters). The "average" box office is brought down because of more numerous smaller budgeted movies making, predictably, less in the box office.

Part of the issue is also that a fucking Batman and Superman Movie didn't exactly break the bank. It did well, no two ways about it. But it's like ASM2: it did well, but ideally, it should've done much, much better. We live in a world where Deadpool has had a movie that made more than the most recent solo Superman movie on a fourth of the budget. That's insane. That speaks to something about how well the brand is doing, and you can't just wave it aside as "well, people just don't really care about Superman and Batman anymore." These movies, in their mediocrity, are not working in the same way Marvel and the others' mediocrity has been working, either as audience or critic pleasers. Doesn't mean people can't like them, nor is box office and critical response the be all, end all of movie quality. But to say the average DCEU money is higher per film than MCU? That's dumb fucking shit and in no way what will affect the franchises going forward. You think specific, weasel phrasing like that matters to execs? They care about the profit on each movie, not some meaningless average between two very different sample sizes.

You're right about one thing: they're not going to reboot. Things are already too much in motion to stop. And there's really no reason too. The two movies haven't bombed or flopped, they just did well enough. Just, well enough.
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>>82411130
I hope to see some cool action with simple story.
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>>82423796
>If this doesn't happen then it's over.
No, if this doesn't happen you'll just insist that it's going to happen in Justice League Part 2.
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>>82423796
That would be ideal.

>This is the closest we've ever come to a live action World's Finest.
>We might not even get it.

Fugg
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>>82424274
No, I enjoyed BvS, as it was a tragedy with a hopeful ending. If they don't build upon that ending then it means it was all for naught.
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>>82411130
Hope? Yes. From all the leaks it was WB desire to set up a world asap to launch JL. So here it is.
PS I am a visitor from TV so the last time i read a comic book was the 90's.
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>>82425745
>So here it is.

Well, here I am.
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