Think of the most self-absorbed person you know, someone who thinks that everything they say is the most profound and important thing anybody has ever said before and seems perplexed and embittered by a world that just doesn't understand their brilliance and is completely unable to deal with even the slightest perceived criticism, constructive or otherwise.
I don't have friends.
K, now what?
>>82410862
Okay I thought of him
Now what?
your ass sounds mad as fukk
>>82410862
So /tv/ then.
>>82410862
Ok, here he is.
Here's an actual topic:
Think of a cape character, then tell us how Zack Snyder would ruin them.
>>82411257
Uncle Ben: Kill them all, Peter... Kill them all...
>>82411083
Come again? Couldn't understand what you said with you mouth full of Snyder's jizz.
>>82411325
>not "Avenge me Peter... Avenge me"
missed a trick there anon.
>>82411325
STOP, POWERFUL AND RESPONSIBLE NEPHEW.
>>82411257
Black Panther is a tyrannical king who Final Solution'd half Africa before the movie starts, he acts like a utter psycho , using weapons of mass destruction to deal with most of his foes.
It is implied Shuri was killed by the Klaw and that drove him to the edge.
>>82411459
You mean
>With great powers come great consequences
>>82411439
>not "Fuck bitches, get money, Peter."
>>82410862
>and is completely unable to deal with even the slightest perceived criticism, constructive or otherwise.
If that was true he would not have stopped using slow mo, would not have had Clark take Doomsday into space almost immediately and not have had the trinity confine the battle to the sea port.
>>82411257
The answer if always the same, he'd make them joyless and overly serious and make their saving people a selfish thing because he is a Ayn Rand fanboy and doesn't believe altruism exists.
>>82411257
>Alright Steve, now that we've pumped you full of drugs and radiation, it's time for you to kill all the nazis you can find, and then move onto the nips
>>82411257
Punisher doesn't kill criminals unless its self defense
>>82411596
Except Clark doesn't save people out of selfishness.
>>82411325
"just like I taught you"
>>82411574
Not OP but when he does deal with them, he obviously misunderstands them.
>people complain that Superman didn't seem to care to do damage control in the Metropolis fight
>BvS just so happens to mostly take place in empty parts of a large city, still very little effort to show damage control done by the heroes
>>82411325
>Peter, you have an inherent talent, a power that elevates you above others. And with that power there must come great responsibility to make sure that no one ever diminishes it, that nothing or no one ever holds you back.
>>82410862
Thanks OP.
Now, whenever I read a post on /tg/ complaining about how some guy's shitty homebrew isn't acknowledged as the pinnacle of fantasy literature (which is mostly a shitheap anyway), I'll see Snyder's face.
It's a perfect fit.
>>82411539
Fucking this.
>>82411695
>But also, don't save Mary Jane from the Goblin. You don't owe her anything
>>82410862
Whedon?
>>82411667
>>people complain that Superman didn't seem to care to do damage control in the Metropolis fight
Because it was FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE.
He can't break off from a one on one fight when his opponent moves as fast as Zod did.
The one time he took his focus off Zod to look back at the parking garage Zod was INSTANTLY upon him punching him down.
>>BvS just so happens to mostly take place in empty parts of a large city
No Batman chose that area specifically for his fight with Superman and then lured Doomsday back there to get the spear.
>still very little effort to show damage control done by the heroes
When Clark saw the energy waves Doomsday was letting off when he was up on that one skyscraper he did damage control by taking him into space.
And once Clark was trying to save Lois and get the spear, Wonder Woman was left to face Doomsday pretty much alone and Batman was jumping around just trying to stay alive.
STOP fucking acting like they could have done more.
Your god damn fucking assholes, your completely misrepresenting Pa Kent's intent and lesson he gave Clark, IT HAD NOTHING TO FUCKING DO WITH SELFISHNESS and all to do with looking at the big picture and thousands of lives instead of the handful right before you.
>>82411596
>reviewers call him Facist
>/co/ calls him Randian
>>82411861
>Son, in the grand scheme of things one busload of kids doesn't matter. Saving their lives isn't necessarily worth it if the world learns what you are.
>>82411827
Yes. All of those are decisions that were worked into the film. Just because they have reasons in canon doesn't make them any less retarded.
Personally, I've never once argued that Mos or BvS don't make sense. Just that they were the subject of poor creative decisions.
>>82411257
>Zack Snyder would make them worth a damn
Fixed. Silver Age is for the old.
>>82411897
Pa never said that. He said maybe whoch is usually connotes uncertainty. Life could not prepare you for the job of raising an all powerful being and the situation of asking your son to sacrifice his privacy at such an early age is something most parents don't do.
It's the classic runaway train scenario that's he facing.
>>82411508
>implying that wouldn't be the solution to all of africa's problems
The only mistake the white man made in africa was he didn't genocide the vast majority of the subhuman races in favor of the more tameable breeds.
>>82411861
>No son, let me get killed by this tornado because I'd rather die than let a few rednecks see you do some crazy shit that nobody would ever believe actually happened
>>82411909
Why the fuck is it retarded in anyway?
You wanted Superman to care about collateral damage, they make him do so and your still now happy? WTF?
>this thread
>>82411897
>Saving their lives isn't necessarily worth it if the world learns what you are.
Yes because society could throw a shit fit that would cost hundreds or thousands of lives so yes that is absolutely true.
And there is the very very likely possibility that Pa did not actually mean it when he said Maybe, he spit it out in frustration to get his point across.
>>82411947
>Zack Snyder would make them worth a damn
BvS should have made a shit ton more than it did. Snyder makes them worth less.
>>82411992
I'll never understand this criticism. I mean, Kansas farmers are stupid enough to do such a thing. Don't you know what rednecks are?
>>82412008
>this post
>>82412030
>sales = quality
And RT is always right, yeah. Come on, post some macro to make this company war thread even funnier.
>>82412046
>capeshit
>trivial
You mean all that people who watch and discuss capeshit are not intellectuals???
>>82411992
The dumbest part is he didn't need to do anything crazy. If he'd just ran over and held onto Pa Kent and clung to the ground, no one would have thought it odd that they survived. Most would just say that got lucky, maybe some religious old folks would call it a miracle.
It wouldn't look like Clark was a super powerful alien.
>>82411861
>looking at the big picture and thousands of lives
I understand headcanon rules Snyderfags but in no way does he imply that Clark should save thousands of lives in the future.
>>82411868
Well he is a Randian. He wants to adapt Fountainhead.
>/co/ will forever pay more attention to DCEU than MCU
Fucking genius, Zack.
>>82412081
this
>>82411257
>Obediah Stane
>>82412023
And the world figuring out about superman would cost hundreds of thousands of live how?
>>82412111
>he is a Randian
So is RDJ and no one complains.
>>82412129
oh god...I can see it too.
>>82411998
>Snyder constructs reasons for jacking off to carnage porn
>people complain that it's difficult to enjoy such relentless devastation
>Snyder responds by evacuating all the civs and proceeds to ejaculate all over the screen anyway
It shows he was missing the point - didn't understand the film's critics and was essentially a cheap way of ensuring that he could carry on smashing his action figures together.
Literally a moment where the audience is united in recognizing what a fuck-wit he is.apart from you anon - you get to be special - congrats
>>82412023
>society could throw a shit fit that would cost hundreds or thousands of lives
How do you figure that?
>>82412081
I know Max Landis triggers people around here, but I like that in American Alien a lot of Smallville folk know and they just go on with their lives.
They don't go lawdy lawdy x-files or whatever
>>82412133
RDJ isnt creatively in charge of multiple beloved characters
>>82412081
>If he'd just ran over and held onto Pa Kent and clung to the ground
This is a result of the poor execution of the scene, it could have worked if Pa getting to his feet and Clark getting Martha & the girl to safety had coincided exactly and then have Clark only hesitate for a 2nd and Pa is instantly swept away but as it is the scene is way too long and drawn out making it seem like Clark could have just naturally ran over.
>>82412111
>Well he is a Randian.
He should have done Iron Fist.
>>82411632
>Punisher only kills kids and prostitutes
>>82412150
>didn't understand the film's critics
I don't think he visits /co/, anon.
>>82412115
/co/ talks about things they hate because we're inherently bitter and autistic people, normies don't give a shit other than 'I heard that movie was bad, why would I pay to see it' there's like 1000 unique visitors max and the vast majority are antisocial or hide thier powerlevels.
>>82411257
Daredevil becomes super grim dark with forced religious symbolismis daredevil the only property that Snyder could do well with?
>>82412111
>but in no way does he imply that Clark should save thousands of lives in the future.
He implies that his reveal would cause massive social upheavals.
And realistically that would include Muslims going Jihad on a level unseen in history to spite the being that proves their god false.
>>82412176
Yeah, it shows.
>>82412201
Give him Nemesis and call it a day.
>>82412201
No, because he'd also make him not a cocky sonofabitch who enjoys beating people up, and more importantly, he'd be killing people left and right
>>82412185
>>82412133
Because the only thing RDJ has creative input on is dialogue. Also he plays a billionaire playbody philantropist egomaniac, perfectly fitting for a Randian.
Snyder is the main creative input in an adaptation of Superman, one of the ultimate altruistic heroes. I'm just saying it explains some of his choices.
>>82412194
I believe you.
>>82412190
>Everyone outside /co/ likes Snyder and heralds MoS as a masterpiece
You keep telling yourself that bud
>>82412150
>>Snyder responds by evacuating all the civs and proceeds to ejaculate all over the screen anyway
But BVS didn't have all that much destruction. Not even a 50th Man of Steel had.
Regardless you CAN NOT have Doomsday and not have him fucking up shit, you can't do it, if you don't then he actually isn't anything more then a pathetic cave troll.
>>82412208
I thought the movie was okay enough but holy christ, does Schnider whisper sweet nothings into your ear before you sleep? Who on earth would make that kind of leap?
>>82412222
>cocky sonofabitch who enjoys beating people up
I think I know of a similar TV series...
>>82412228
>the MCU is a quipfest
BRAVO RDJ
>>82412234
>/co/ is always right
Heh.
>>82412208
Superman existing doesn't prove fucking shit about religion. Though I suppose it's highly likely crazy militant hyperreligious assholes might consider him an affront to their god but you can't lay that solely at the feet of Muslims.
>>82412260
But that's fucking stupid.
>>82411827
>STOP fucking acting like they could have done more
They can do whatever the writer makes them do, anon. These aren't historical events that need to be accurate. The writers can literally just write situations to make them do more.
>>82412208
>He implies that his reveal would cause massive social upheavals.
Not really. He says that people would react to him, he really doesn't say much about how they would react.
>And realistically that would include Muslims going Jihad on a level unseen in history to spite the being that proves their god false.
You're a fucking retard.
>>82412254
Genocides have started over "tribal heritage" differences. That is a far smaller thing then godly powerful aliens existing.
>>82412258
I said they WOULDNT make him cocky and enjoy beating people up
Those aspects are super important to Matt's characterization
>>82412240
I'm just shitposting to be honest. I didn't even watch BvS.
I have no reason to think that I should.
That said, I'd be absolutely astounded if it surprised me.I'll give it a watch sometime - there was a hell of a lot in MoS that I liked - though I still thought it was a disappointing misfire
>>82410862
Zach Snyder has a serious cocaine problem. Everything he says might sound pseudoprofound or important, as well as perplexed or embittered, but you need to realize that everything he says is only being said because he thinks it's the best and fastest way to get to the next fix of cocaine.
>>82412258
>>the MCU is a quipfest
>BRAVO RDJ
Well... yeah. I mean most of IM 1 and 2 were made without a script, so RDJ improvised his dialogue and set the tone for a lot of what came after.
>>82412115
There's like 2 Korra threads a day.
>>82412308
>Matt is cocky and enjoys beating people up
BRAVO NETFLIX
>>82412310
>I'm just shitposting to be honest. I didn't even watch BvS.
Every anti-DC thread ever.
>>82412258
Are you a troll or just illiterate?probably both
>>82412281
>Superman existing doesn't prove fucking shit about religion
No religion says anything about other worlds and aliens, so if they do in fact exist then it pretty much proves the bible and such are flat out lying to us.
>Though I suppose it's highly likely crazy militant hyperreligious assholes might consider him an affront to their god but you can't lay that solely at the feet of Muslims.
Muslims are the only religious extremist that mass murder in the modern world.
>>82412310BvS isn't that bad. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit.
I'd put it 6.5/10 at absolute worst. It has problems, it doesn't deserve 28% on RT or whatever the meme is
if it gets rid of Hack Snyder though then I'm all for people exaggerating the fuck out of its flaws, this is literally the first movie of his I have ever been able to tolerate.
>>82410862
I don't think this actually describe Snyder..
>>82411947
I hate lots of Silver Age too but the choice isn't either Silver Age or Snyder. There are actually good modern developers.
>>82412358
>>82412008
>>82412363
Too late, anon. Anyone who attacks DC doesn't even consume DC products, anon already said so.
>>82412363
28% is just the amount of critics who liked it
The real average score is 5 or something and pretty close to yours.
>>82412290
>These aren't historical events that need to be accurate
No but they need to be realistic and feasible within the context set up. If Zod or Doomsday just stand around doing all of jack shit while their opponents save people one by one then they will come off as horribly incompetent and non threatening.
>>82412356
Hey - I'm not basing my Snyder hate on bias. I've watched every movie he's directed barring BvS.
I've suffered enough and I'm allowed to be pissed off he's in charge of these properties.
This isn't an Anti-DC thread anyway - its an anti-Snyder thread if anything. I would love nothing more than for DC to have a robust series of blockbusters. Why assume I'm anti-DC?
>>82412300
It really isn't.
You have no idea how conflicts work if you think that some guy alleged to have powers existing on the other side of the world is as important to some Rwandese fuck as why the fuck his neighbour gets better access to social privileges and/or riches.
>>82412359
no religion says anything about maglev trains either, but their existence doesn't prove shit about the veracity of the religious source.
Exactly zero religions say we are the only intelligent creatures in the physical universe.
My grandmother was hyperreligious and believed the Bible was 100% true and she told me that she was sure God had put other creatures out there somewhere.
>>82412336
>Everything he says might sound pseudoprofound or important, as well as perplexed or embittered
Well not really.
What he puts in his movies is that.
When he talks he sounds like a slow 12 year old.
>>82412363
I like you anon. I'm sure I'll agree when I see it.
>>82412388
I do not like you. I've thrown plenty of my moneys at DC.
But unlike you I'm voting with my wallet. I want DC to thrive - not release stuff that is frankly embarrassing to the company and character.
>>82412384
>I hate lots of Silver Age
Thren what's the problem?
>>82412408
>I've watched every movie he's directed barring BvS.
Not bad for a director you "hate."
>This isn't an Anti-DC thread
New here?
>>82412460
>I've thrown plenty of my moneys at DC.
>I want DC to thrive
Prove it. There are too many casuals trying to blend in here.
>>82412359
>No religion says anything about other worlds and aliens, so if they do in fact exist then it pretty much proves the bible and such are flat out lying to us.
But that's wrong you retard. In fact Islam specifically arguably has aliens, they're called Jinns,
Hell the Snyderfag memesters over at /tv/ have found references to Jinns in BvS or some similar shit
>>82412443
>Exactly zero religions say we are the only intelligent creatures in the physical universe.
In fact, the catholic church has already worked out how to incorporate aliens into their dogma.
I mean common sense would say they'd just say "yeah god made the aliens too."
In fact the DCU runs on this logic too. Yahweh is just called "The Presence" and is above Darkseid and Zeus and all those other cosmic guys.
>>82411187
Wait, I found a better pic
>>82412490
>even /tv/ likes BvS
Maybe /co/ isn't always right after all?
>>82411947
You don't even now what Silver Age is.
>>82412566
In those days, you used to be with "it," but then "it" changed...
>>82410862
I'm going to say me.
It's the closest we'll get. I don't meet most of the requirements but I'm a completely friendless loser driven to frequent introspection yielding de-facto self-absorption in a lot of cases because I'm the only model of a real human bean that I've got.
>>82411947
Snyder makes boring one-dimensional characters, and somehow manages to make them all dark and brooding except the ones that are actually supposed to be dark and brooding.
It also doesn't help how supremely butthurt/jealous he is at the MCU.
>>82412595
>Anonymous (36) 05/02/16(Mon)17:39
Suspicious.
>>82412562
Considering /tv/ is always wrong, it evens itself out.
>>82412631
Yeah, people should pay more attention to neckbeards than to people who watch mainstream movies and series.
>>82412620
What
>>82412687
Pay no heed to that anon. He is an idiot. We have purposely trained him wrong. As a joke.
>>82412475
>Then what's the problem?
Just the implied false dichotomy. The Silver Age being bad doesn't mean Snyder improves stories or characters. Both can be bad, and are.
>>82412653
So, no one on 4chan.
>>82412653
Every board of 4chan is a board of neckbeards. Just particular kinds on each one.
>>82412483
>prove it
Really anon? You the /co/ police now?
Have I actually given you any reason to think I'm not invested in /co/ material or are you so assblasted that people might actually not want Zach fucking Snyder in charge of DCs entire cinematic universe?
>>82412712
>he spotted me!
>>82412722
So you hate both the Silver Age and the modern age. Rrrright.
>>82412787
This thread proves so. Funny that the DC "fans" here aren't comitting suicide or something.
Have a nice day if you can, "DC lovers."
>>82412359
>Muslims are the only religious extremist that mass murder in the modern world.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/france-and-the-militarization-of-central-africa-thousands-of-muslims-fleeing-the-central-african-republic/5369276
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
inb4 you reveal your /pol/ colors and say it doesn't count because they're not white.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Olympic_Park_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting
>>82412824
>cannot prove it
>I will call him names
: )
>>82412825
>So you hate both the Silver Age and the modern age. Rrrright.
You don't know what Modern age is.
Snyder is firmly stuck in the late 80s, early 90s Dark Age.
>>82412824
I have, however, proved that I can't spell Zack. It's not a real name anyway.sorry Zack anons
>>82412825
I'm sure your logic is sound on some planet. But your problem is: this is Earth.
>>82412828
>GlobalResearch
>>82412825
>Snyder personally represents the modern age
Okay, now I know you're just shitposting and not conversing.
>>82412850
I'm totally okay with you misspelling the Hack's name so I can not share it with him.
>>82412843
>call him names
What the fuck anon. Is this some sort of abstract trolling?
What the fuck am I saying - you're asking me to prove I like comics. What am I supposed to do? State facts about characters that I could just grab of wikipedia?
Better yet. Why the fuck am I still replying to you?
>>82412866
I don't know what the problem with that site would be but he gave you another 4 links
I think it's funny how apparently the way to fix and modernize the DCU is to make it more like the Marvel Universe, and that if you don't like DC acting like Marvel then you're a shill for Marvel.
>>82412866
Global Research is fine on humanitarian stuff, it's their science stuff where they can't tell the difference between serious analysis and wacky looloo garbage.
But here, faggot.
http://time.com/42131/anti-balaka-central-african-republic/
>>82412240
>Regardless you CAN NOT have Doomsday and not have him fucking up shit, you can't do it, if you don't then he actually isn't anything more then a pathetic cave troll.
This. He was less like Doomsday and more like Tuesday.
>>82412944
I think it's funny how apparently the way to post and massage your bruised ego is to put words in anons mouths and bitch that noone likes true capekino.
>>82412982
>capekino
You overplayed your hand.
But seriously, the whole "humanity distrusts its supwerpowered individuals and capes are flawed people driven by tragedy and pathos" was Marvel's thing to set it apart from DC back in the day. Hell, Man of Steel is ultimately just "What if Clark Kent was treated like a mutant?"
So deep. Such profund. Muh Kino.
>>82413027
>Hell, Man of Steel is ultimately just "What if Clark Kent was treated like a mutant?"
He also apparently spends 14 years being Bill Bixby Hulk.
>>82411257
Max Damage is still fucking underage girls, and he doesn't find his redemption against the plutonian.
>>82412964
His track on the soundtrack actually was named Tuesday.
>>82411257
Deadpool doesn't have funny lines or silly moments. It's just two hours of dialogueless murder
>>82413223
So x men origins wolverine
>>82412201
Daredevil would kill the ever living shit out of people while posing with a cross every 3 minutes.
Every single action scene would open with Daredevil having a dream hallucination while hugging a cross.
>>82411947
I've just finished Secret Society of Super Villains, kinda in the end cycle of the Silver Age and the dialogue in that shit was miles away better than MoS or BVS.
>>82413151
I'm pretty sure a big part of Incorruptible was how Max was doing good to make himself feel better.
>>82411257
Judge Dredd. He takes his helmet off. Again.
>>82413381
>>82411257
>Punisher
Goes full Dredd and shoots kids for shoplifting
>Captain America
He tries to make a cutting social commentary on US foreign policy and we get Ultimate Cap. There's a waterboarding scene.
>Hercules
It's alright, but he keeps using the Roman names for gods and it gets under your skin the longer it goes on
>>82411257
popeye gets his super strength from doing crossfit
>>82412300
Tribal heritage is big shit in those cultures. I can tell you're an American because of how removed we are from our roots.
>>82412356
What is bad about Netflix adapting an aspect of his character to the screen?
Literally I don't understand why them taking something from the comic books and putting it into live action is a bad thing
>>82413372
Yep. But that's fascinating, Max tries to go by the book because he doesn't know how to be a hero and he is doing this for egoistical reasons, in the end he learns to do it just because is the right thing. Snyder would probably fuck the part of Max acting like a goody two shoes and his redemption.
Plutonian is probably what Snyder should work on, Snyderman is pretty much him and if the knightmare happens, well there wouldn't be a difference
>>82411257
He would make batman kill
>>82410862
/tv/ posters. what next?
>>82412240
to be fair I'm just shitposting, I saw BvS just so I can get more material to shitpost, we all do this shit on /tv/ and we are bringing it into /co/
>>82413757
Actually, /tv/ in general knows it's a shit board.
/co/ is more like what OP describes. I guarantee you that in any terrible thread, you'll have a /co/mrade whining about how it's tumblr, or Reddit, or /v/, or /tv/ or whoever else who is to blame.
>>82413027
>Humanity distrusts Superman
That's not what the movie is really saying though, he saying that Suoerhuman would, rightfully so, create a paradigm shift and cause social upheaval. Look at the people who are actually afraid of Superman
>Batman who acts like some sort of secret police
>Lex Luthor the amoral CEO
>Senators who does backroom deals with corrupt CEOs and other world leaders
all people in power and on the other hand regular people love him, maybe a little too much at times and it gets a little creepy but their just really grateful for Superman.
>>82413818
>Actually, /tv/ in general knows it's a shit board.
no they don't, they all like they know better than anyone elwse ''muh kino!!! muh patrician!! muh blacked!! mug pedo fetish!!!''
>>82413831
>he saying that Suoerhuman would, rightfully so, create a paradigm shift and cause social upheaval
Right. Like Marvel's mutants. After all, what's keeping a mutant from walking right through a wall into a bank? What's keeping Superman?
The fact of the matter is that for people that actually read comics, the main difference between the civilian populations of DC and Marvel has always been one of optimism versus cynicism.. By making DC's civvies more cynical under the guise of "realism", all they've really done is aped Marvel's.
>>82413831
>>Batman who acts like some sort of secret police
The Purifiers, the Reavers, the Friends of Humanity can all arguably fall under "secret police"
>>Lex Luthor the amoral CEO
Bolivar Trask,
>>Senators who does backroom deals with corrupt CEOs and other world leaders
Senator Kelly
>>82413381
More like
>Judge Dredd
>The narrative unambiguously places The Judges in the right simply by virtue that there's no better option for keeping order in MC1
