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>runs at 13 trillion times the speed of light
>punches with infinite mass
>stronger than every other DC character combined except Superboy Prime
>is the joke reddit xD character of the justice league
>constantly jobs
>constant "oops i le forgot to go xD fast enough" every single time

JUST
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>>82385716
>is the joke reddit
Stopped reading right there.
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If you don't want characters being held back for arbitrary reasons, then don't read corporate-owned cape comics (which is where you'll usually find an editorial department holding back characters for arbitrary reasons).

This is your own fault for choosing to read the wrong comics.
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>>82385716
>Guy who can run fast
>Fanboys get too writing him and wank him too unbelievable degrees.
>Make him unbeatable unless he's a complete retard
>But he's also supposed to be a genius.
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>>82385934
yep. he's basically the worst DC character.
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>>82385934
This. It's the same problem that less capable writers have with Superman.
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>>82385934
>>But he's also supposed to be a genius.

He has never been a genius. Aside from Johns i cant of a single writter that wanted to portray him as a genius, barry is just a well educated im science guy that can think pretty fast.
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It's honestly too bad that he's not so physically restricted in the actual Comics. The Justice League cartoon handled his power set perfectly. There's no going faster than light bullshit, because if he goes that fast, he'll get sucked in by the speedforce, so it makes sense how Flash never actually goes that fast.

In the comics however, he can casually move that fast at any damn time. I saw in convergence where he fucking kicked the shit out of Wonder Woman by moving really fast, to the point where it was like she got hit by the Moon or something. It makes reading The Flash seem so contrived, because unless he's facing other speedsters, a good 98% of the villains he faces should be taken out faster than they can even think.

I mean, even though comics Superman is more powerful than his Justice League cartoon counterpart, his powers are actually still not as insane as the Flash, and he has multiple weaknesses that the Flash doesn't, such as Kryptonite, Red sun radiation, lead, magic, exhausting the solar energy he's built up. He's also got villains who can thwack his ass even without exploiting his weaknesses.
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>>82387992
>well educated im science guy that can think pretty fast
That's enough to make someone a genius.

>>82388006
Yeah. The people who say Superman is a bad character because he is invincible...wew lad. He really isn't all-powerful.
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>>82388290
>That's enough to make someone a genius.
Not at all.
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>>82388974
>Not at all.
Yes it is.
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>>82391033
no it isnt
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>>82388006
Except for that new "solar explosion" power of Superman's. That shit is ghey
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>>82391642
Shiiiiieeeetttt, in America all you need to do is be able to pass calculus and most people will refer to you as a genius.
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A usual casuals and shitposters overblowing shit of course he an go fast but why would he want to to? every time he does a new feat he has no choice but to and is usually in some kind of big distress and pressure in the case of the infinite mass punch he would destroy the planet. In other words fuck off
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>>82393370
It takes a lot of impact from any conflict when you take in mind a character could literally move several times faster than light to solve almost any problem and the reason he doesn't is that he doesn't feel like doing so
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>>82393561
that's 99 percent of cape characters though.
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>>82385716
>>punches with infinite mass

I thought that was a Wally thing
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>>82393370
Wew
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>>82385716
If you're saying Barry Allen sucks, that's nothing new.

Don't be talkin shit about real Wally though.
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>>82385716
Those are all things Wally or Bart did. Wally was never really the joke of the JL, except maybe JLI/I where everyone was a joke and that was kind of the point (he was also much slower back then).

Barry's a chump but Barry has never been in Wally's league since his return.
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>>82388006
Being sucked into the Speed Force is literally a storyline ripped directly from Waid's comics you fucking casualfag.

Wally's fight with Wonder Woman was him trying to talk her down because he's a good person then, when all else failed, he wrecked her shit in one hit like he's capable of. That's how you write The Flash without jobbing him out.

Flash has tons of weaknesses. If lead is a weakness then super dense material/forcefields are since it stops his phasing (like how lead stops Supe's vision). He doesn't have a Kryptonite, admittedly, but magic fucks him just as much as it does Supes (Kadabra, Cobalt Blue).

He can get exhausted, if that counts as a weakness, too. He can get depowered (and has several times) like Superman under Red Star radiation.

Basically you don't know what you're talking about.
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Best Flash
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>>82393370
>infinite mass punch he would destroy the planet.

It didn't.

>>82394379
>that's 99 percent of cape characters though.

It isn't.

>>82397674
>Flash has tons of weaknesses.

He doesn't.
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>>82385716
>all those times in the new DC movies where non-speedster villains casually suckerpunch and/or stab the flash
>all those times in the CW show where he gets knocked down and the badguy gets away, and he doesn't spend two seconds casing the nearby blocks for them with his SUPER SPEED

flash has always been mishandled
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