>>82376676
I'd rather see a dozen more threads bitching about SJWs than Brain Micheal bendis. The guy is useless and pointless and a hack. He will never change. There's no reason to talk about him anymore.
>>82376676
Truth hurts, don't it Bendis?
>>82376704
I like Bendis
>>82376724
You like Bendis?
Bendis is love, Bendis is life
brevoort > bendis
Do you guys think Bendis even tries anymore? Is he so guaranteed to get good writing jobs that he can just shoot out shit and not care in the slightest if his output is good?
Seriously, I think the last time Bendis was consistently good was...what? Late USM? Maybe Dark Avengers?
>>82377026
>Dark Avengers
>good
>>82377026
I liked Iron Man
>>82377026
He and Slott both should move to editorial positions. They have decent ideas, but their books are just unbearable now.
>>82377106
And leave the writing to who? One of these shitters that can't sell a book?
>>82377140
Seems like most of their books are legacy characters that sell in spite of the writers not because of them.
>>82377073
It's been a while, I don't remember the writing specifically as much as I do the general premise being fun as fuck.
>>82377026
>Do you guys think Bendis even tries anymore?
No. Obviously not. I think he puts a little effort into Miles' book but that's pretty much it.
Ugh, this was so fucking good! I miss that Bendis.
>>82377026
Current Spider-man is good so far. The problem is that the editorial doesn't let him write Miles at all when he's finally getting interesting. They keep forcing him to stupid crossover events like United We Stand or that Galactus shit. And he was in the middle of the storyline when someone decided "you know what? we changed our minds, we are going to destroy the ultimate universe too".
I can't blame anyone but himself for the rest of his work, but it's clear he's trying with Miles. He just has terrible luck.
>>82377778
>Current Spider-man is good so far.
I dropped it after last issue. The entire book was about Miles getting grounded by his abuela. It would've been funny/endearing if that lasted a few pages at most, but in perfect Bendis fashion, it'll probably be a 12 issue arc of nothing.
>>82376724
He started out fantastic! It's a shame about 10% of his stuff is any good these days
>>82376676
>>82376881
I think he likes bendis
>>82376872
Please, it's not like Thanos never used guns. His ship is giant gun!
>>82377778
Man now I feel kind of sorry for the man
>>82378651
Bendis? As in Brian Michael Bendis?
>>82377399
wait, what is this? That roster and art is god tier.
>>82378650
OK I chuckled
You should be praising Bendis you little shits.
He's a perfectly good writer.
You just shit on him because he's successful.
>>82378755
were i any good at bendis speech i would rewrite that page.
>>82377106
You really want to give them more power? Really?
>>82377026
>I think the last time Bendis was consistently good was...what? Late USM? Maybe Dark Avengers?
Daredevil. USM became shit around the time it started to ship two or three times a month and never recovered. DA was shit from the start and a poor imitation of Ellis' Thunderbolts.
>>82377140
Slott doesn't sell shit. Look at his SS. Spider-Man sells. And it ain't selling that well currently.
>>82378650
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I see we've got a couple haters....
Spider-Man is great.
New Avengers was amazing.
Daredevil was great.
Alias/The Pulse was good.
>>82378650
Which book? Or sauce?
>>82378650
did they ever address this fuck-up? I think I read in an interview somewhere that "Things Change"?
>>82378868
>New Avengers was amazing.
Eat shit. Aside from Hackman, last time main Avengers was good was when Johns was writing.
>>82378594
The problem with Bendis and even his Spider-man is that it reads really slow every month, but in the long run the pacing pays off and it's a way faster read.
The original USM had like 5 issues before Peter actually wore the costume and yet is a very praised run.
>>82378942
>muh witty dialogues
>muh character work
Seriously, Bendis is literally a pleb pleaser.
>>82378969
If it works great then it works great.
Not only that. He probably wrote the best Spider-man run ever with Peter. It had all the elements that make Spider-man appealing while avoiding its pitfalls.
Trying to read or watch any other Spider-man feels so watered down in comparison.
>>82376982
What did he mean by this?
>>82379012
>Not only that. He probably wrote the best Spider-man run ever with Peter.
No Lee and Ditko did that decades ago and it will never be topped. There is lots of stuff post Lee/Ditko that's miles better than Bendis.
>>82379012
> not Roger Stern
> Not Lee & Ditko
> Not Michelinie or McFarlane
No, fucking Bendis. Bendis wrote the best Spider-Man.
I want these fucking idiots who've never read anything older than themselves to leave.
>>82379058
Bitch please. Spider-man didn't even get that good until Romita Sr became part of the team.
But also Bendis had all the advantages of having Spider-man mythos fleshed out enough to cover lots of cool storylines in his style. It's distilled Spider-man, complete Spider-man. Stan Lee's Spider-man was the very important seed of what Bendis' Spider-man could become, which is the best one..
>>82379103
>Bendis wrote the best Spider-Man.
Yes. Just face the facts. Just because you have a hateboner for current Bendis doesn't take away the merits of Ultimate Spider-man.
>>82379108
Faggot don't throw names out there, it wasn't even Romita Sr's best work. Lee/Ditko is definitive because it gave us all the iconic characters and their best interpretation.
>>82379176
>Lee/Ditko is definitive because it gave us all the iconic characters and their best interpretation.
Just because it was the first doesn't mean it's the best.
>>82379195
It wasn't just the first, it was well written and well drawn.
>>82377399
why is the lettering lower case?
>>82379263
>and well drawn.
>>82379365
Oh I get it, you're a pleb and I'm getting baited. Carry on then.
>>82379365
I really think Ditko is far better work on Dr Strange. But part of that is probably cause I'm not a fan of Spider-Man
>>82379387
I just can't stand Ditko's art. How is this by any standard good art?
Am I the pleb? Look at his unbalanced head shape, at that ear. His skull is a mess. This is what a newbie artist looks like, not a professional. He would never get hired by modern standards, he only got the job because it was the 60s and comicbooks were the lowest cheapest form of entertainment.
>>82379442
>He would never get hired by modern standards
Marvel gives job to people like Land or Henderson, my baiting anon.
>>82379461
You got me there, buddy.
Thanks for confirming my point about how Ditko's art is bad though.
>>82379473
It has aged better than your favorite tumblr hacks, anon.
>>82379387
It simply looks like fucking shit, anon.
Stop feeling like you need to defend and like it, simply because it's an older artstyle, and probably the style that drew you into comics.
It's objectively mediocre art, at fucking best,
>>82379442
>what is expressionistic art?
Is your favorite artists Lee by any chance? Got to be one those traditional capeshit artist.
>>82379442
>>82379486
>this mad
Did he touch you down there or something?
>>82379486
By your logic, any movie special effects before 2009 are "mediocre" too
>>82379442
>muh house style
he's great because it is expressive stuff. not everyone has to be super realistic, this is cartoons things can and sometimes SHOULD be exaggerated.
And yes, you are being a pleb
>>82379499
B-but of course! Or do you watch movies for the plot?
>>82379442
Some fair points here, but like Kirby, what Ditko lacked in raw draftsmanship he made up for in style and atmosphere.
If you want to see what people like about Ditko, see past his technical limitations,
consider artists like the Hernandez Brothers, Paolo Rivera, Darwyn Cooke, and Chris Samnee.
>reading comics for the art
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why hacks like Bendis still have a job.
>>82379521
>only caring about the writing and not the art
And this is why Greg Land still has a job.
>>82379539
Oh, don't worry about that. Marvel stopped having good writers a decade ago.
>>82379521
It's a fucking visual medium you pleb. The art is at LEAST half the story, sometimes more. Hell, some of the greatest comics have no dialog at all.
>>82379482
>relying on insults now
>>82379488
My current favorites are Pichelli, Immonen, Nguyen, and when he does interiors Adam Hughes. But sure, rely on assumptions about me instead of arguments.
>>82379498
I just don't like Ditko and the praise he gets is ridiculous.
Also only the post with Peter is mine.
>>82379502
I'm not asking for realism. I'm asking for his skull shape or body to not be deformed. But you don't seem to distinguish between stylized and just plainly poorly drawn.
>>82379508
I appreciate Ditko's ideas and crazy shit in Dr Strange but man his humans are still really poorly drawn. That anon said many post ago "It was well drawn", and I cannot disagree more.
>>82379499
Here, let me spell it out for you in plebby language. Do you not like BTAS because current DC animation is realistic or anatomically correct? Of course you do.
>>82379300
Back in the early-mid 00s all Marvel books switched to lower-case lettering. Eventually they gave up on it and went back to all-caps on everything except the Ultimate line.
>>82379548
What's that from?
>>82379550
>say "tumblr hacks"
>he turns out to be one of them
>>82379561
A comic with static art and almost no plot. Because muh visual medium.
>>82379547
out of current books
>King's Vision
>Ewings's Ultimates
>Lemire's Moon Knight
Most of Marvel is shit, just like DC. Doesn't mean there isn't some good writers there still
>>82379571
>King's Vision
Pity no one is buying it.
>Ewings's Ultimates
Lol no
>Lemire's Moon Knight
LOL NO
>>82379550
>My current favorites are Pichelli, Immonen, Nguyen, and when he does interiors Adam Hughes. But sure, rely on assumptions about me instead of arguments.
Congrats, 3 out of 4 are traditional capeshitters. Thanks for proving my point.
>>82379498
Not that anon but Bendis ruined my life by touching my DickRider.
>>82379595
We were talking about Ditko, but I believe you.
>>82379561
from Requiem, a french comic about a nazi that goes to hell and then it becomes the most over the top comic ever, but far better than that shit stain Crossed. Demon's being demons and all.
Oliver Ledroit does all the art and holy fuck is it some of the best I've ever seen in comics
>>82378942
I never got past that first trade of USM. The pacing made it a chore to read. And since I don't even like Bagley I wasn't going to bother sticking with it.
>>82379584
Well, I was talking about capes.
My non-cape favorites are pretty much the whole Trigger crew (especially Yoh Yoshinari), JJFrenchie, Oh Great (shit stories, great art), Jin Kim and Glyn Dillon. Not my fault good western artists work for capes.
Regardless, Ditko did too so you are calling him capeshitter when you are trying to defend him so I don't see your point.
>>82379624
>far better than that shit stain Crossed
Hey, at least Crossed has plots.
>>82379604
>"We were talking about Ditko"
Shit, sorry.
This is what I get for assuming the entire thread was about Bendis.
>>82379624
Holy shit that looks amazing. 10/10, would buy it for art alone.
>>82379627
Shame, it's very beloved even here on /co/ for a reason but if it's not your thing it's ok.
>>82379631
>Yoh Yoshinari
>Jin Kim
Weeaboo much?
>>82379633
that go nowhere
>>82379647
Jin Kim works for disney and yes, I do like japanese artists, but Kim is Korean.
Can't blame you for being so ignorant though. I'm sure you aren't even trying to educate yourself.
>>82379665
And Requiem's are buried under all those baroque static illustrations. Your point?
>>82379678
>Jin Kim works for disney
Corporatefag much?
>>82379665
But Gage is giving us an ending to the Smokey saga.
>>82378663
Which one? His most recognizable one looks like some kind of squared-off barbell.
>>82379687
>Corporatefag much?
>>82379571
Moon Knight is carried by the art. Lemire's dialogue on that isn't very good
>>82378650
It probably wasn't his preference then.
>>82379745
Lemire can't do cool or badass. If Orlando wasn't DC exclusive, I'd have really loved to see his Moon Knight.
>>82379745
Lemire is much better at Valiant or creator-owned or some DC.
>>82379643
Well I've got no interest in reading stretched out stories.
>>82379761
He still did Spider-Men.
>we'll never know what it was Peter saw at the end when he looked up 616 Miles
>>82379800
>we'll never know what it was Peter saw at the end when he looked up 616 Miles
>>82379687
>baroque static illustrations
has much more dynamic visuals that 90% of comics
>>82379783
>animal man
>>82379847
This page has no flow at all. It's overly detailed to the point of being overwhelming. It doesn't work as comicbook art.
>>82379847
No it doesn't, Yuri. Where is the action there?
>>82376676
>posts shitest dr. who
fuck him
>>82379870
>overwhelming
that is the fucking point you idiot. this is based in Hell where everything is over the top crazy.
why am I surprised that a thread about bendis has no taste
>>82379885
Eh, that was a widely used reaction image back in 2014.
>>82379889
>Hell where everything is over the top crazy.
Kev O'Neill can draw that much much better,
>>82379889
>i-it's his style, it's not flawed
It's overwhelming in a different sense. The page has too much detail to the point it looks like nothing at first glance, which is a big no no for comicbook art.
>>82379821
delete this
>>82379903
I guess you just don't worship the great Slaanesh then, too bad for you
Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Wasp, Vision, Wonder man, tigra, Ant-man, hank pym, She-hulk, Captain Britain, Colossus, Multiple Man, Warpath, Magma, Jubilee, Spectrum and Jennifer Kyle... These are the characters that Bendis ruinned or hates for no reason.
>>82379996
You forgot Ethan Edwards and the rest of the Revengers as written by Bendis
>>82379996
You forgot Moon Knight faggot.
>>82380134
Bendis doesn't hate Moon Knight, he wrote a solo of him.
It's just that his understanding of Moon Knight's character is completely different, he genuinely believes he wrote a good story.
>>82380232
Not being a previous fan of Moon Knight I honestly had a blast with Bendis. Regardless of how the character is supposed to be, it was a very entertaining story.
I feel sorry for the fans though.
I love Bendis, I tell all my friends to buy stories from Bendis. But they always buy something else, and complain later about how bad it was. And then I let them read some of my books, and they say "where can I get some more good stories like this?" And then I drop some knowledge on them. I take them to school. They read a few, and they buy some, and they come back saying "More. I need more Bendis!" It feels pretty great, I'm not going to lie. It's like spreading the word of God
>>82376676
>>82380318
>screen capping pasta
>>82377026
If he doesn't try then he hasn't been trying for a long time.
Honestly the problem is that most writers just lose it after a long time. Bendis has been writing comics for Marvel nonstop for 16 years, he's exhausted all of his stories, everyone does. It happened to Claremont on the X-Men, it happened to PAD to an extent on Hulk and X-Factor and it's happened to Bendis. Given how bad Siege was, I'd say he burned out around there. That would've been a good time for him to step away from comics for a bit.
>>82380429
It's not so much that writers run out of stories, but comparing them to their seminal work is never fair. Most writers have one or two amazing books and the rest can be just good but will never measure up. All the famous writers had this. But that doesn't mean they can't be challenged again, they just need to take a step back and explore something new.
So yes, I agree, Bendis should quit for a couple years, do something completely different, do some soul searching or whateverheavy drugsand then come back to writing.
>>82376704
he keeps writing the comics of characters that i want to like, except that he's writing them
i do like that his ineptitude and lack of self awareness allowed Rightclops to come into being
>>82378647
he was always kind of shit, then the same flaws that made him kind of shit expanded to make him very shit
>>82378676
Bendis!
>>82379885
>he thinks Tennant is worse than Smith
>>82381226
are you telling me you don't like his Daredevil?
>>82381337
Indeed the worst.
>>82379885
Ten
War
Nine
Eleven
Sarah Jane was a better doctor than eleven.
>>82381421
It's honestly hard to hate him with how happy he looks
No, wait
THAT SHOULD BE ME THERE, NOT HIM
FUCK HIM
>>82381245
Benis
>>82381427
Tennant had the best episodes, but Eccleston, Capaldi and Hurt were all better doctors in my book.
>>82379821
I have no idea, is this an actual comic or is this one of those Spidercest Rule34 Comics?
>>82381484
yes brain micheal bendis
>>82381484
oh fug
>>82378889
Of course they didn't. Remember Quesada's (I believe) old quote that if they ever did a 616/Ultimate crossover it would mean they were officially out of ideas?
>>82381421
Where are his eyes?
>>82376676
The Bendix?
>>82381583
>Making fun of the fact he was born without them
Why are you such a shitter, that's too fucking far
>>82378910
No, that's the last time it was acceptable. It hasn't been good since Busiek.
>>82376881
The writer?
>>82377093
The guy that puts on sciencey red armor?
>>82379300
Likeep a case sensitive that's not upper?
>>82381498
Yes.
>>82381494
Capaldi was awesome but Clara and fucking Danny Pink really brought down his first season.
>>82378650
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAH
>>82379821
sauce?
>>82382879
I think it's New Ultimates.
>>82382813
Well, they did destroy the Ultimate Universe after the crossover
>>82381337
>>82381427
>>82381494
fuck off RTD
>>82381337
Atleast smith actually acted like the Doctor and not some emo fag
>>82377778
>Current Spider-man is good so far
>Blackheart defeats all avengers and scarlet witch
>runs away after a single venom blast
>Comes back, makes Peter jump
>Peter, the amazing spider-man, in his new bullet proof suit, lands on his head and knocks himself out
>Miles proceeds to beat up blackheart with three venom blasts and throws a mail box at him
>Hypocritical (but overall good) stance on black spider-man
>Stereotypical hispanic Grandma
This new run is his worst yet.
>>82376676
Bendis thread?
Yeah, Bendis thread.
Like, a Bendis thread or a Bendis thread?
Just a Bendis thread.
>>82382879BLACKED
>>82381559
>>82378889
He said he changed his mind
>>82377026
>bendis is the adam sandler of comics
>>82376940
He's right. Lowe is the Guardians of the Galaxy editor and there's zero coherence or continuity between current books. They even contradicts with others. Why is he not fired already is beyond me.
>>82379115
USM only works because Bendis was able to crib from dozens of existing stories instead of making it up wholesale, which he's proved time and again he sucks at.
It's a good book and re/introduced a lot of people to Peter but it's hardly original and certainly not definitive.
>>82383850
Bendis won Eisners for Alias, Powers, Daredevil, and yes, USM.
>>82378681
Its a mini series Bendis did, has nothing to do with the Secret WARS series.
Gabrielle Dell Otto fully painted the interior art.
>>82384103
>Eisners
but why
>>82384154
For being a mediocre white male.
>>82384154
Here's what he was up against those years
2002:
Brian Azzarello, 100 Bullets, Hellblazer (DC/Vertigo)
Brian Michael Bendis, Powers (Image); Alias, Daredevil, Ultimate Spider-Man (Marvel) *
Grant Morrison, FF 1234, New X-Men (Marvel)
Greg Rucka, Queen & Country (Oni); Detective Comics (DC)
Mark Waid, Ruse (CrossGen)
2003:
Brian Michael Bendis, for Powers (Image); Alias, Daredevil, Ultimate Spider-Man (Marvel) *
Ed Brubaker, for Catwoman, Detective Comics, Gotham Central (DC)
Bruce Jones, for Incredible Hulk (Marvel)
Greg Rucka, for Queen & Country (Oni) Gotham Central, Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia (DC)
Bill Willingham, for Fables (DC/Vertigo)
They looked at all those and said "Yep we're going with Bendis." Though honestly Bruce Jones is the only one there I'd consider unquestionably worse.
>>82384224
Grant should've one the first one, Brubaker the second.
>>82377026
>Seriously, I think the last time Bendis was consistently good was...what? Late USM?
Late USM was the death of Peter Parker and the introduction of Miles Morales. So no. Absolutely not good.
>>82384154
>but why
We're talking about Brian Michael Bendis. The man who brings unforgettable moments like this in practically every book he writes. do you even have to ask? He wakes up and shits gold
>>82377778
>Current Spider-man is good so far.
Fucking no. No.
>>82378668
Bendis is more famous than you. He has more fans than you. He has more money than you. His legacy will outlast yours by genertions. He's effectively been immortalized by his books and by the live action adaptation of Powers. You will never have accomplished this much in your lifetime.
You have no business feeling sorry for Bendis. He doesn't even know you exist.
>>82384772
what good is something that lasts longer than you can enjoy it?
>>82384772
Guy better stop snacking so much while working or that legacy of his is going to take over much sooner than expected.
>>82376676
I'm surprised more people don't call him Benis.
>>82379045
"I'm an asshole" is usually the standard.
>>82383666
Because Satan he is able to bring in writers like Ennis and Ellis, and has fostered good work out of writers like Robbie Thompson
And also it's Alonso/Brevoort's fault in the first place that book is fucked, they're the ones who give Bendis free reign
DO SOMETHING WITH MILES YOU FAGGOT WHY IS HE SO BORING GIVE HIM A QUIRK I DON'T CARE IF YOU SHIP HIM WITH MS MARVEL BECAUSE THAT WON'T SAVE HIM I WANT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AND I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>82379550
>My current favorites are Pichelli, Immonen, Nguyen, and when he does interiors Adam Hughes. But sure, rely on assumptions about me instead of arguments.
>2/4 of those are boring photorealistic capeshitters who can't compose a page for shit
>>82385466
Well we got "I don't want to be the black Spider-Man," that's something.
>>82379821
looking at this image is like looking at a MC Escher painting
>>82379263
>well written
maybe well plotted, but lee's writing is abysmal mate
>>82385504
That should've been his thing from the get-go though, dude. I've never read about more of a non gung-ho black guy than Miles Morales and it makes me fucking sad.
>>82379499
plenty of movies before 2009 have good sfx, but a film like phantom menace with full cgi characters and environments obviously looks shitf
>>82379821
>Black People Fetish
Meh
>>82379624
>Vampires
>Ever being relevant
Nah
>>82379785
>>82379745
>>82379571
ONE
ISSUE
>>82385832
He has had a lot of chances before, anon. We're not giving him more.
>>82379521
kill yourself you retard
>>82386215
>Chris Ware's comics have no story or plot at all
Nice try, anon.
>>82379570
He's still right faggot, it is a visual medium.
>>82386676
It's the perfect medium for people who can't read, yeah.
>>82386727
It's also the perfect medium for fags that try to hard it seems.
>>82386751
So you read comics...
>>82386777
>...
Yep, you're a fag.
>>82386810
I don't see the problem in using dots. Kirby used them...
>>82385484
>having no taste or knowledge of art so you must shit himself in rage
>>82388665
>Thinks Adam Hughs and Sarah Pichelli are good graphic artists
>gets really mad when someone thinks otherwise
lol
>>82389227
>Adam Hughes
His art looks like computer crap.
