Hard lives edition.
Discuss spoilers, rips,Wanda best girletc.
I liked this movie
I was surprised at the ending when Tony and Bucky made up after all the shit everyone went through. Maybe he'll become co-Caps with Steve afterwards.
>>82366638
Now I'm wondering, based on the concept art with Sharon instead of Wanda, if Sharon was supposed to be on Team Cap originally.
In some ways the airport fight would make more logical sense that way. That way Cap's team would be the clear underdog, fighting above its level and holding its own until Vision shows up and tries to overpower everyone.
This way Cap's team has someone super-powerful who's holding back and they really don't seem like underdogs.
I'm glad Wanda's in the movie, I just am wondering if they were originally not going to use her as much.
Is this some kind of hidde, subliminal message?
What did the Russos mean by this?
>>82366638
>yfw Joe Russo reprises his role from TWS as the doctor with the Mario moustache dead in the bathtub looking like a retard
>>82366706
I think what happened is that Sharon was more important in the original Cap 3, and when they went for Civil War, they tried keeping some of her importance, but they ended up with Wanda instead to level up the teams.
Any good rips out?
>>82366748
No, just a spanish one.
>>82366731
He cameod in WS too? I guess I didn't know what he looked like back then, I recognised him straight away in this.
Does Bucky fuck Steve in the ass?
>>82366704
I'm hoping there will be a reconciliation between them in the future. Maybe when Steve dies in IW.
>>82366762
why do you torture me with this pic anon?
>>82366796
I know, it's very depressing what they are doing to the poor girl.
>>82366709
His forehead grows with every new film. Soon it will consume Thanos.
>>82366764
Yeah, he's the doctor tending to Natasha when Bucky shoots her.
They said in the directors commentary that he had a fake moustache in some takes, but when they did the reshoots they couldn't get a similar one or couldn't get it to stick, so they ended up CGI'ing the moustache out from what they'd shot already.
When he shows up with the moustache I lost my shit.
>yfw hohohoh
>>82366706
I think they were just trying to make Sharon look more hype and relevant than she was because she has like 3 fans and people would have already asked "who's that???" at the promo art instead of during the movie.
>>82366821
that's hilarious
>>82366814
Sauce?
>>82366821
Does Brubaker have a cameo in this one too?
>>82366873
Why do you want to see her suffer anon?
Are you some kind of sadist?
>>82366831
>Cap
>Bucky
>T'Challa
>Scott
>Zemoe
Too many great husbandos in this film, I can't have them all.
>>82366731
Yes! I knew it was him, I just wasn't sure
too bad I was surrounded by normies and nobody else noticed
>>82366877
I don't think so. I didn't notice any cameos besides Joe Russo and Jim Rash.
>>82366877
Doubt it. He didn't write Civil War or anything.
>>82366943
Kek, when the Dora Milaje tried to BTFO Natasha.
>>82366893
S A U C E
I will track it and make justice with my own bear hands, I swear.
Protect her smile.
>my father made it
>>82366638
So, the shitshow that is BvS gets a sticky and the awesome as fuck Civil War doesn't?
Bias confirmed.
>>82366996
It's a real shame they cut those hardcore incest sex scenes directed by Raimi.
Did Black Widow get T'CHALLA'D?
>>82367022
probably gets a stick when releases on US
>>82367034
more than she got HULKED.
>>82367022
It may get one when it opens up in America.
BvS came out in the entire world at the same time.
>>82366934
Yes he did? He wrote the Cap books during Civil War and Bucky's run as Cap after Steve got shot.
>>82367023
>the third post credits for civil war is Falcon, Rodey and T'Challa planning the race war when Gassing Garrison busts it while shouting racial slurs
>>82366992
We failed anon, we failed so much.
>>82366831
As an ANTS fansince the movie(i barely heard about him before)i fucking loved this whole part.
>Who are you again?
Poor Scott.
>>82366996
Isn't there a scene where she's taking the D from Thanos? You know, before he finds out she's his daugher.
>>82367092
This film made me want to wrap my mouth around hisgiANTdick
>>82367080
>''Are you sure he will be safe in this fucking cotton-picker filled shithole?''
No shit the Russos got into this.
>americucks don't get in for another week
must suck having to dodge spoilers for so long
>>82367095
I'm sure thanos fucks all his daughters, I mean they're all adopted so it's cool
>>82366991
AJ Applegate, I think.
>>82367059
>>82367022
>>82367047
It was also generating a lot more shitposting.
>>82367082
>you'll never be a guard who works in The Raft who's job it is to force feed a catatonic Wanda and you mix some of your cum into the slop you force down her throat
Do you guys think we'll see Tony's tech evolve to the heights of Superior Iron Man? His suits seem to stop advancing past what, IM3?
DAILY REMINDER THAT YOU FAILED TO PROTECT THIS SMILE
SHAME ON YOU
>>82367082
>implying we did
>>82367215
If that motherfucker uses Pym's suit to get into nanomachines, I'll fucking find a way to punch him in the dick.
>>82367148
>>82367204
You again?
We already talked about this.
She would NEVER forget it, and if you didn't end up getting guilt-ridden nightmares remembering her dead eyes, she would mind-rape you to have them anyway.
>>82367238
>implying you did
Look at that lack of smile duringCaptain Britain'sfuneral.
>Had everything yet nothing
>Gain everything through character progress
>Savior of the earth, everyone's hero
>Create Ultron
>Despised by the public again
>Girlfriend leaves
>Best friend is cribbled
>Teammate and friend ditches you for the guy that killed your parents.
>Back to having nothing
>JUSTFUCKMYSHITUP
>>82367214
As a Wandafag I was pleased to see someone else finally portrayed as a bigger near-omnipotent fuck-up.
>>82367214
I found it suspicious how horny Wanda got after he said that and how she inmediatly pulled him into a kiss.
>>82367283
Speaking of funerals.
>Steve's best moment in Civil War comic gets pushed as a random phrase Peggy said to Carol
This was the only thing that made me angry at the movie, otherwise it was fucking great.
>>82367217
Don't worry, T'Challa promised him he'd find a way to make things right againwith his Big. Wakandan. Cock!
>>82367082
Fuck I am actually scared to see the movie because of this. I am not sure I can withstand the painful feels. Its like a knife through my heart.
>>82367360
I felt that it was better as something said to him rather than homo saying it.
>>82367403
Don't be scared anon.When people are dead on the inside they do little more than blink their eyes.
>>82367329
It was nice, but I wonder what the implications of him fucking up are.
>>82367360
Why? On its own it's a nice pithy speech but in the context of the comic it just made Steve come off as a stubborn asshole in the wrong kind of way.
>>82367287
Halfway through the final fight I actually felt pretty bad for him.
>chasing down a wanted killer
>turns out he brutally murdered your parents
>superhero bestie absolutely beats the shit out of you to protect this man
>>82367361
His Wak Two-Handa
Overall, this movie had less than no impact on me because fuck you Spoilers and fuck me for looking at them.
I liked it a lot, the Airport Battle was hype as all fuck and pic related gave me a hyperboner from the fact that he's so perfect. I need more.
BP was based as all living hell, royal as fuck and a badass all around.
I genuinely felt bad for Tony, he's had a hard life. And I won like $500 from betting that Cap would win with my retarded friends.
All the secondary characters were great too, no one felt crammed in and we got good characterizations for them all.
ANTS.
That's it, just ANTS. It's self explanatory.
Witch and Vision were legit, it seems the Russo really wanna make them a thing.
The parallel references to the comic were so well implemented.
Zemo wasn't as I expected, but he was pretty fucking good for what he was supposed to represent.
Story felt flimsy at times, but it was overall solid. Same for the fighting choreography.
CGI was fucking ugly most of the time, like, jesus. Tony was suffering from the GL floating-head syndrome pretty badly.
War Machine got what he deserved in terms of character, he was very well represented and executed.
Anything else...?
Well, I'm super hyped for Black Panther and Spider-Man Homecoming.
All in all, 8.5/10. I'm gonna see it until I'm poor.
>>82367431
>>82367082
When do you think the BluRay will come out to get high definition pics of the movie?
>>82367461
Tony was just all out broken by the end of the movie.
>inserting two characters to promote their upcoming movies
I'm not even mad they ended up being one of the best parts of the movie
>>82367497
>And I won like $500 from betting that Cap would win with my retarded friends
why would cap lose in his own movie? retarded indeed
>>82367552
I've got to admit, even though it's annoying that movies are basically promos for other movies, the Russos did a good job of setting the table:
- Introduce the MCU version of Spider-Man
- Introduce Black Panther and get people hyped for his movie
- Make Ant-Man more popular so his sequel will do better
Pretty ruthlessly efficient.
>>82367431
TBQH Being possessed by Chthon would be preferable to this shit.
> yfw Chthon is actually a pretty good guy compared to humans.
>>82367497
I'm hyped as fuck for Homecoming. If they can make Spidey feel even remotely like in that measly 20 minutes he was on screen, I'll come away happy.
>>82367497
>CGI was fucking ugly most of the time, like, jesus. Tony was suffering from the GL floating-head syndrome pretty badly.
Floating head was bad, yeah. That's something I've noticed with a lot of MCU films: the CGI is never straight up terrible, but considering they have the blockbuster market by the balls you'd really expect it to be better. The only time Ive been impressed by it was the Hulk in the first Avengers.
Both IM3 and Cap2 had really poor looking water, and despite the fact that his drone's looked fine, Ultron himself looked like a PS2 cutscene come to life.
>>82367603
It doesn't really matter if the characters are enjoyable and someone you would like to see more of.
>>82367603
I haven't watched ANTS but after watching CW I want to now
>>82367603
It ruins the movies. What makes superhero comics suck is making the movies suck as well.
>>82367361
Though the many tentacles of HYDRA threaten to keep him and Bucky apart, true love will always prevail.
>>82366638
Fixed it to look a little more movie poster-ish.
>>82367497
>>82367573
Did Tony lose because he was holding back?
Was it more because of he was trying to kill WS and not Cap, and that it was a two-on-one in which uni-beaming the two is out of the question?
>>82367656
>the CGI is never straight up terrible, but considering they have the blockbuster market by the balls you'd really expect it to be better
The budget committee usually has them by the balls.
>>82367732
I don't see the difference
Just came back from watching it
I really liked that it feels like a civil war, nobody really wins and all it does is divide. That aside fuck Cap all that shit and Bucky goes to sleep that felt like a huge middle finger after the whole fuckfest that he causes.
Also I guess it's because it's his movie but I really didn't like how much everyone shits on Tony, poor fucker ends up with half of his team and cap keeps his plus BP
Wasn't somebody supposed to die?
>>82367763
He made it taller.
>>82367497
One thing I forgot to mention.
Crossbones.
Like, what in the FUCK goes through the executives' heads that they have a raging hard on for killing potential future villains?
I'm legit fucking mad, and I actually was amazed at how BPBlack Panther saved Zemo from taking his life.
Marvel Studios can do wonders for heroes, but villains? What the fucking fuck.
>>82367744
Tony tried so hard to keep Cap on his side, but he kept failing at every turn. It took crippling one of his best friends and seeing who was really responsible for the death of his parents to finally break apart.
I like MCU Tony way better than Comic Tony. Comic Tony feels like Double Hitler with a minor god complex.
>>82367783
Your expectations of someone dying
>>82367783
Wanda did.
>>82367805
All they need to do is put in a line about him being thrown in super duper mega jail, that way they remove him the film but keep the option of using him again. Wanda could just as easily have thrown the/a bomb, and not him + the bomb.
>>82367744
Have you seen the movie? He gets some solid hits in, takes out Bucky and lays in to Cap. They show things from his perspective for a bit and it's pretty overwhelming, and you can see how it'd be possible for him to be overpowered without it feeling like he's jobbing.
Like this anon said:
>>82367768
There really isn't a clear 'winner'. Cap beats Tony, sure, but everyone gets hurt pretty bad and no one really leaves happy. Doesn't feel like a victory, and does a much better job of selling the 'Avengers are split' style ending than AoU did.
>that first post credit scene
So Bucky was basically Nia Teppelin all this time? He's probably not even going to wake up until after Cap dies in Infinity War or something. Not to mention he wanted to die because of all his guilt, and knowing Cap sent the world to hell for his sake isn't going to help matters either. Cap fucked up big time.
>>82367805
Indeed keep killing antagonists and they will have to use C-lists on the small movies
>>82367805
>tfw we will never get the Masters of Evil because there aren't any arch-enemies for Zemo to recruit
>>82367603
Normally I'd be annoyed by the lack of finality and containment of this film, especially since it's supposed to be the end of Cap's trilogy. For all its problems Iron Man 3 did wrap up Tony Stark's character arc. But this movie felt a lot like the Empire Strikes Back so I can sort of forgive that, just this once.
>>82367941
Fuck cap this is what happens when you pick save one fuck the others route
>>82367883
>Wanda will never cheerfully smile and laugh like in pic related
What went so very wrong.
>>82367148
She slept with Thanos?
INFINITY WAR BEGINS!!
>>82367926
No I haven't, I'm in the US, but I'm not anal about spoilers. But I was just wondering you know? Since my idea is that IM should come out on top more than not, since he's got flight, uni-beam, rockects, etc, but since he's not really aiming to kill, him losing is plausible.
>>82368003
I feel a little bad for Chris Evans that he didn't get a "real" third Captain America film after doing so well in the first two.
Yes, this is more his movie than Batman vs. Superman was Superman's movie, of course, but it still feels like a bigger star being airlifted in to pump up the box office, and a movie that is half Cap 3 and half Avengers 3.
>>82368015
Everything.
Only person/thing who might make her smile isChthonby helping her smash Thanos's face in.
>>82368015
>Protect
>That
>Smile
>>82368087
If it hadn't been for the two of them working together against him, Iron Man would have won.
>>82368130
Accept it anon, we failed.
>>82367883
are we sure bendis had no input?
>>82367082
She gets saved at he end so there's chance for healing
>>82368147
I won't stop.. I'll never stop!
>>82367059
Wait it hasn't come out in the States?
>>82368219
Nope, May 5th for them.
>>82368229
Hahaha losers.
>>82368186
You never began. Wanda's smile has been notoriously unprotected during the events of the MCU.
>>82368155
If Bendis had input she would have either been killed off or she would have gone mad and destroyed everyone.
Thank God for tokenism. They don't dare make one of their few powerful women expendable. Yet.
>>82366638
I like how the incident which sparked the protocol was similar to the comic book civil war but just smaller in scale.
>Villain blows himself up as one last "Fuck You" to the heroes.
The movie further shows it's going to differentiate itself from the comic books by having it be Crossbones who blows himself up (as he's the one who kills Captain America post civil war) along with the explosion killing a lot less people showing the "War" isn't going to be anywhere near as big as the one in the comic book with the Avengers solely being the "cause" of it.
Also I wonder if Zemo's comment about Captain America's eyes was a sly nod to his original Nazi comic book heritage.
>>82368155
If Bendis had any input the movie would have ended with her going full retard for no reason in the airport fight and the Avengers having to kill her.
>>82368010
>>82367941
Cap picked the Heaven's Feel route when everything made it obvious he was better off having a Mind of Steel and putting Bucky out of his misery.
This movie makes me sad that we'll never see a Russo directed Ultron film.
Just imagine how non-shit it could've been.
>>82368003
Cap gave up his shield and the last mission/shot has him in his civvies, he's basically retired his costumed identity
I read an article today that hinted at Spider-Man's first costume being sloppy and something a kid could throw together before he gets the new suit we've seen in the trailers from Stark. Any truth to that and if so, what is his first suit?
>>82368333
Has he?
>>82368334
I read an article that said you're a faggot who joins discussions of movies you haven't seen.
>>82368334
It's true, he doesn't wear it, but you can see a glimpse of it, and it's just some regular blue and red tweaked clothes.
>>82368359
We'll just have to wait and see
>>82368333
Wasn't voluntary though, it's not like he chose to retire and it's that ambiguity that leaves his arc feeling resolved, unless they're saving it up for Infinity War. I really want to know what they have in store for Bucky though. They basically gave him the "Han Solo in carbonite" treatment but Stan has a full nine movies on his contract so it's unlikely his story is over.
>>82368186
That's Olsen, she doesn't count anon.
Wanda is a walking dead woman.
>>82368137
>If it hadn't been for the two of them working together against him, Iron Man would have won.
Ironman was the only one trying to kill, neither of the other two were going all out. That's the thing, there is a difference between defensive combat and murderous intent.
>>82368334
Here's a super HD pic from the cam rip. Stark makes fun of his goggle eyes, which works into him building the lens eyes for the final suit.
>>82368327
Don't make me think about it. It makes me depressed.
I dunno about you guys, but i think Steve was justified in wanting to defend his best bro from everyone else, since all he did wasn't really his fault, he was mind-controlled and could do literally nothing against it; and to top it off, he had to live with all those "jobs" on his memory.
>>82368455
Wow, proto-Spiderman was a super saiyan?
>>82368421
>saving it up for Infinity War
would be my guess. lifts Mjolnir > dies > Buckycap. I wouldn't complain.
>>82368327
This movie made a lot of the flaws of AoU far more apparent.
>>82368471
>I dunno about you guys, but i think Steve was justified
Of course Team Cap is proven objectively right in his own movie
>>82368421
He's done 3 so far. 2 Infinity Wars movies, maybe a cameo in Black Panther bumps it up to 6.
>>82368327
>mfw Avengers 2 was originally going to have Thanos
>it would have been Whedon directing it
>>82368516
But both teams were proven right in the movie, though in their own way.
>>82368471
Steve was right in protecting his friend, who was completely innocent and a victim, but he should have told Tony about the HYDRA files and his parents' assassination in the 2 year gap between WS and CW.
It was also understandable why Tony wanted to kill Bucky in that moment.
>>82368487
Seriously, even Crossbones felt more threatening than Ultron
>>82368487
Yeah I'm one of the people who enjoyed it when it came out and still think it's OK but it felt like a lot of this movie was spent cleaning up after that one, and I'm not talking about the Sokovia stuff, that was probably all pre-planned.
>>82368586
I know we like to bash on AoU, butcome on, that's really reaching.
>>82367403
The two scenes last like 7 seconds combined
>>82367525
Probably mid-late August
>>82368471
>he had to live with all those "jobs" on his memory
I remember. All of them.
>>82368575
I'm surprised Tony didn't figure it out by himself with the fact that all of this information had become accessible, the fact that the Starks were public figures, and that Tony and the others had been dealing with HYDRA for a while now.
>>82368601
AoU felt less tied into the other movies. CW references events in the Cap movies, Avengers, Iron Man 3 and even to the Ant Man movie with Pym's dislike of Starks.
AoU just had characters from the movies without feeling it had any connection to other events.
I was really surprised with how "violent" Bucky killing Tark parents was for a movie for kids
>>82368620
Think about how easily Cap tore apart the Ultron Drones versus him getting tossed around by Crossbones. Don't get me wrong, the stakes were definitely higher in AoU with the whole city drop thing, but every fight in that film was extremely one sided.
>>82368651
He probably killed babies too. I wonder if he also remembers all the abuse his handlers probably subjected him to. Pierce slapping him around like he was a broken robot seems to have been just the tip of the ice berg.
>>82368670
Ultron should have had more set-up in Iron Man 3
>>82368670
But Sokovia was mentioned during Ross's speech.
Also, i still think it's kinda retarded that Ross blames the heroes for all dem ded people, when Wanda's literally the only one that was their fault.
Also, Steve telling Ross to stop just when they reach the last example was pretty silly.
>>82368683
It's pg-13, for teenagers. But yeah, I feel kind of bad for any young Iron Man fans in the theater. Cause parents bring their kids to these movies despite ratings anyways.
>>82368155
She is portrayed as struggling with herChaoticpowers while also still struggling with grief, guilt, and having nothing and no purpose in life.
Its also likely intended to subtly imply she really is a Witch; they always get shat on and hated blamed for shit and are eternal outsiders. The term "Witch-Hunt" tells you everything.
>>82368327
I don't even think they could've made it a whole lot better. Ultron should've have been a multi-movie villian, lesser than Thanos though.
>>82368756
>Also, Steve telling Ross to stop just when they reach the last example was pretty silly.
She was seeing a video of her home being destroyed anon.
>>82368754
They mentioned at that time they didn't know if RDJ was going to agree to be in AoU.
>>82368754
Iron Man 3 was written as a conclusion because nobody knew if RDJ would renew his contract.
>>82368796
Kids can take it, I grew up watching Predator and Robocop and I turned out
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>>82368854
>>82368827
That explains a lot!
>>82367526
Every time I read this I get a little more excited to see it. I cant wait to see his stupid suit torn apart by Cap and Bucky's brotherhood.
>>82368826
No, in the movie they keep going after Sokovia.
>>82368873
I cried watching Disney's Tarzan because the music and lighting in the final fight was scary.
>>82368903
He was probably telling him to stop showing the video about Sokovia.
>>82368873
Now you got me wanting to watch both of those tonight. Dammit anon
>>82368525
7 if 10 seconds in Thor 2 counts.
>>82368316
>Bucky is wormslut
Everything makes sense now
>>82368919
Then why did he say it after they finished showing the video of Sokovia and while a different video was showing?
>>82368756
Yeah I wish they stood up to Ross better at that moment and pointed out that they were trying to minimize collateral damage in New York. Also, considering the scale of everything going on the casualty numbers should've been way higher. Not just in deaths, but people injured and who lost limbs or something, because they certainly weren't afraid to shy away from that shit when showing Tony's parents' deaths.
>>82368826
Actually, it was a video of Nigeria.
>>82368919
Have you seen the movie? It's not cut like the trailer, they add in the UN bombing between Sokovia and Cap's stopping it.
>>82368930
8 if you count the special scene in Antman.
>>82368983
>UN bombing
Wasn't that the building that Wanda destroyed?
>>82368333
>implying they won't just come back eih vibranium tier equipment
>all of cap's avengers
Remind me what cap lost aside from Tony's trust
>>82369004
My bad
>>82368967
is correct.
>>82368930
It doesn't because of how their contract works.
>>82368983
It's not the U.N. That's later.
>>82368934
Complete with torture, experimentation to alter his natureand possibly lots of rape.
>>82368948
>>82368967
>>82368983
>>82369004
They were showing a video of the building that Wanda destroyed.
He's telling him to stop because she feels guilty of it.
>>82369030
I think the way the contract works is they can have it count or not if they wish.
>>82369047
I honestly felt the trailer's version worked better
>>82369067
Yeah, but Wanda destroying that building was a spoiler.
>>82369047
Specifically, he tells him to stop when they do close-ups of the corpses.
>>82367263
she deserves it though
>>82368934
>>82368316
I swear I called this happening like a year ago.
>>82369083
delete this;___;
>>82368659
They mention that most of the files were encrypted and there were thousands of them he probably didn't care
>>82368897
>Everyone went in wanting to hate Tony
>Everyone leaves feeling sorry and sad for him
>>82366709
>we could be making huge infographics about this film
>about how the machine is a symbol
>it's Bucky's dark halo because he's the anti-christ
>don't need to because the movie is actually good
>>82369035
I wonder what the keywords for "suck 100 dicks" were
>>82368909
That fucking leopard was scary as shit.
Thinking about it, I wonder if 7/8 years olds will get scared of panther in this movie. He wears all black and is very aggressive and sneaky. I could see some little pussies getting nightmares out of it.
>>82366638
>rips
What? Is there a full civil war camrip somewhere?link? ;-;
>>82369172
It's a tale of longing and a metaphor for his latent homosexual urges and the ring is a representation of his metaphorical asshole as he awaits penetration from his love.
>>82367002
That scene was hard to watch. When Tony said that I was shocked.
>>82369206
>en espanol, gringo
>>82369206
There's one for the airport fight as well as a full one but it's in hue audio.
>>82369218
If I was Tony I would have just said "You know what fuck it I'm done I'm so fucking done"
>>82369246
Hue is portuguese anon
>>82369244
>>82369246
L-link?
>>82369083
Man, Liz Olsen has gotten into a lot of fucked-up sexual scenarios in her movies hasn't she?
>raped in Martha Marcy May Marlene
>sexual assault backstory in Silent House
>fucks her dad in Oldboy
>>82369261
Hue is Brazilian Portuguese specifically, thank you very much.
But yeah, the video is in jajaja audio.
You know, even Tony's quips were funnier this time around. His "who's speaking" when Ant-Man was tearing shit up made me smile more than the "go to sleep" shit in AOU.
>>82367497
>CGI was fucking ugly most of the time, like, jesus. Tony was suffering from the GL floating-head syndrome pretty badly.
Can we stop ths meme? I mean, okay, some things look like rubber, and some might slighly break the ilusion because it's too unreal and you just know it, like some holograms.
Bur god damn, Robert Downey Jr wore the practical suit in most of the still shots. Stop saying he had floating head when no CGI was used, it makes you people sound like you had nothing to complain about and want to sound impartial.
>>82369255
Why didn't Tony just jump out of the building in that moment?
>lost his team
>lost his friend
>lost his gf
>created ultron
>friend defended guy who killed his parents
>those unresolved daddy issues
>>82369293
Welcome to indie movies.
Glad she's happy in the MCU.
>>82369218
It was so petty, but so broken and sad too.
>>82369301
That wasn't a quip thou
>>82369304
Thistbh
>>82369214
Also, it's colored black. To make it obvious who he belongs with. Who he wants in his annulus ring.
>>82369347
Yes it was.
>>82369347
>>82369380
Well, a quip is supposed to be a 'witty' remark. Was it witty?
>>82369414
Yes
>>82369414
No, it was literally him just trying to understand where Ants voice was coming from
>>82369304
I also wish people would stop using CGI when the they're actually complaining about greenscreens.
>>82366831
>"oh fuck yeah they did it"
>remember this
>"OH FUCK NO THEY'RE GONNA DO IT"
>>82369450
wouldn't ant-man's vocal cords be far too small to produce an audible sound to tony?
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>>82369437
He wasn't being witty. He was panicking and shitting himself because the suit wasn't responding. It was funny, yes, but it wasn't a
witty joke from Iron Man's perspective,
>>82369557
I wasn't worried because Ant-Man and the Wasp had already been announced a long time ago and I doubt they'd replace him with O'Grady or make Douglas do it.
>>82369301
Man, the word quip has lost it's meaning and has taken over the meaning of 'joke'.
Whedon writes quips, where every single character tries to one-up the last one and have the final sarcastic say. That gets boring and out of character for Cap and Vision and Ultron especially. It's especially bad because Whedon always writes his dialogue scenes around it. You can always hear them coming, and he gives pause for applause.
That's not to say that they don't work. I don't think there's a lot of quips in AoU that got 0 laughs. In fact, whenever people are talking about favourite lines from the MCU, but there was no-one that laughed at ALL the jokes. The ones that don't land for you really fucking stand out. Repeated viewings exacerbate this to the point where you can't not cringe at it, especially the predictable timing. It then becomes very hard to take the few serious lines seriously because you're annoyed instead of engaged. It works in Firefly and Buffy because they are the underdogs, but the Avengers are the top dogs in AoU. They come off as arrogant most of the time.
Besides having calmer/more serious dialogue from time to time, the Russos and Gunn write jokes with proper setup. If the punchline isn't unexpected, the delivery/timing is. Like Starlord dropping the orb. He lingers on it a bit more than you'd expect every single time so it catches your off-guard. You laugh at the wit of the writer and not the character.
Because if all the characters are witty, then you just have a pretentious writer who thinks everyone should hear all their jokes. The Russos and Wright do this unexpected timing very fucking well by simply barraging you with simple jokes. You often get 1 or 2 per sentence but you never actually see where they are going until the punchline. Taika Waititi is on a whole other level, though. Maybe it's because he's Kiwi or something, He's really fucking great at catching you off-guard without spamming jokes.
>>82369375
I really hope Bucky has some role in the Black Panther solo movie. Even if it's being used as a prop or damsel for the main action again. I just want him to not have to suffer ;_;
>>82369573
Pym Particles.
Plus radio frequencies. I'm sure FRIDAY auto-scans the frequencies it catches.
>>82369597
Well, yes, but I didn't remember that at the time. Simple mistake.
>>82368754
IM3 actually set Tony's retirement as Iron Man: Man in a Can, not Iron Man: The Mechanic. The final scene in which he says "after all... I am Iron Man" means he's not going to stop being "The Mechanic" and trying to fix the world.
He was too dependent of his suits, and of his hero identity, so he got rid of that. That all explains his new goals of world peace and people general security with drones in AoU, because now it's "we have to fight so we can get to go home".
>>82369637
>and Ultron especially
That is retarded. MCU Ultron is explicitely molded after Stark. He is the most likely character to quip in at any given moment.
>>82369637
>ultron quipping
>out of character
In the movie it is clearly stated how he is a copy of stark and that is why he quips and ultron hates it
>>82369637
The orb dropping was actually a flub.
>>82369370
>>82369304
Hell, even Bucky's arm had a practical stand-in for reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Og6sDTQovQ
>>82369685
Seriously.
I swear, it's like people just walked out of Iron Man 3 at the very last minute.
>>82369705
Which makes for an unscary villain and doesn't make any sense since he's supposedly already an entity in the mind gem. Bravo whedong.
>>82369573
Woah it's almost like he has a special suit designed to counter-act the more obvious fall backs of being small, mainly breathing and talking.
>>82369304
There were a lot of pretty blatant paint overs, anon. The shot where he runs up to the fallen Spidey is very obviously a composite.
Not saying it's all bad, the movie had a lot of great practical stunts. But it when it went full CG the results weren't always spectacular.
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>>82369725
Right. I concede it makes sense when things are starting. But towards the end, stakes get really fucking high and neither Stark nor Ultron should be quipping. The moment Sokovia lifts off, everybody should be in some state of horror/shock enough for them to be serious about it. Avengers AND Ultron. See: Civil War. It's also a matter of context.
>>82369728
I doubt they used the flub take and just repeated it after they thought it was funny.
>Sorry I couldn't save Rhodey Mr.Stark but everybody gets one.
>>82369792
You having a problem with that doesn't mean it just doesn't work.
I found his insanity creepy and unsettling, and the way he causally quipped while talking to the twins or Nat while discussing his extinction level event were effective.
>>82369218
>guy gives you a shield to protect yourself with
>use it tobeat the shit out of his son to protect the man who killed him and his wife
Steve is a good friend.
>>82368756
>i still think it's kinda retarded that Ross blames the heroes for all dem ded people
>>82368953
>Yeah I wish they stood up to Ross better at that moment and pointed out that they were trying to minimize collateral damage in New York. Also, considering the scale of everything going on the casualty numbers should've been way higher.
Anons, let's not forget everything the Avengers ever fought was their own fault.With the exception being HYDRA stuff.
Think about it. Captain America exists because they used a super serum that also gave birth to Bucky, Red Skull, Hulk and Abomination. Tony made Stane, Vanko and Killian possible with his tech and bad personality. The first Avengers was all on Thor's fault for luring his brother to the Earth. The second one was on Stark for creating Ultron.
It's just like Vision said. The inlfux of super beings actually creates more super villain events and that ends up leading to catastrophes. Zemo is just another "victim".
>>82369757
Vision is way more make-up than I expected
>>82366905
No Clint?
>>82369930
Yeah, they just do minor stuff to his eyes, add some patterns on his skin and insert the glow to the gem. I love how they solved him, one of the few good things to come out of Age of Ultron.
>>82369792
He's not an entity in the mind gem. He's the mind gem giving a mind to Tony's, Banner and HYDRA's algorithm.
Same way Vision is the mind gem giving a mind to JARVIS and ultron vibranium body.
>>82369827
You are right based russos stopped the quipping after rhodey gets hurt
>>82370136
Buttisface as all hell.
>>82369876
I mean tony's father didn't like tony anyways, so cap used it fot what it was intended
>>82369890
>Zemo is just another "victim".
Is he?
Also, Bucky didn't used a super serum, he would be created wether or not cap existed, Red Skull came to be before buffed Steve was a thing, and i'm pretty sure Hulk was the result of gamma fuckery, not trying to replicate the serum like they did with Abomination. And i'm not sure if those things were really Thor's fault, since you could make a case of it being Odin's fault for throwing Mjolnir on Earth instead of any of the other realms. You're right on the rest, though; but it's not like Vision, BP, Hankman or Spidey existing brought more super villains on Earth. Yet.
Actually, scratch Vision from that list, considering Thanos exists.
>>82370311
Actually outside of the airport scene there's almost no quipping.
>>82370211
I'm amazed they kept his design as comics accurate as they did.
>>82366709
Horno
>>82369930
>>82370211
It seems like it, but they remove his whole head and just keep the face t superimpose it on a model.
They are actually aiming towards the uncanny valley feeling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hwTsrBFaMM
>>82370311
>>82369827
Tony has quipped in his third act fights since forever.
It's completely logical that Ultron would too.
CW is different only because he is emotionally broken by what happened to Rhodey and what he learned from Zemo.
People complain about quips to an unreasonable degree.
>>82370434
That's pretty interesting
>>82369827
To be fair, not all of them were quipping in the Sokovia scene, Clint and Wanda were pretty serious, and i think Cap too. In fact, i don't remember anyone but Tony, Rhodes, Mercury, and maybe Sam quipping there.
I think.
>>82370541
They all get lines here and there, but honestly, only Ultron and Tony are the quippiest.
And its actually toned down a bit in the third act.
It seems to me people are just triggered by jokes and a Tony-based Ultron.
>>82370434
Maybe they did a too good job with him because I never got the Uncanny Valley or suspected he was that much CGI.
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>>82370455
Yeah, but if everyone quips and is generally trying to one-up each other, Tony just comes out on top as the biggest cunt of the bunch.
Also, a 3 arc structure works best, and Ultron should've been one of his lowest points, because nobody stole anything, he just really fucked up for the first time.
>>82370541
Yeah, it's not THAT bad, it's just compounded with the rest of the movie and a dash of confirmation bias. I still think they should've subverted the expectations and go full serious after Sokovia lifts up. I think they earned the seriousness at that point.
Wanda never quips, but Clint does that whole speech about QS, Cap is telling Ultron "you didn't finish" while throwing him off a cliff, Natasha is calling Tony shell-head and stuff like that, Thor is talking shit to Ultron.
>>82370658
I fully admit there's confirmation bias adding on to it, but they should be giving people what they don't expect, is my point. It's also the delivery and timing of it all.
I much prefered Civil War Tony who was quippy until he got serious for once, although I guess that was bottled up because of Ultron, so the quality differential adds to Civil War?
>>It's just like Vision said. The inlfux of super beings actually creates more super villain events and that ends up leading to catastrophes.
> Wanda leaves Earth because of this.
> Thanos arrives and kills Vision.
> Top Kek Vision killed by his own logic.
>>82370735
I think the quip complain relates to the idea that AOU should've been the Empire Strikes Back of the MCU.
Except its not.
You don't make ESB by having a hellcarrier come in to save the day, and focusing on all the Avengers helping people.
