Literally the best MCU villain so far
>no powers, doesn't need them
>almost destroys avengers with his wits alone
>compelling motivation
>>82351042
>How does it feel to put all that effort into your plan only to see it fail?
>Did it fail?
>>82351042
>looks like a hamster
>>82351042
>almost
Was it almost?
>>82351069
Hes cute like that. Wish they do Thunderbolts with him.
>>82351042
>compelling motivation
Was it compelling?
the part where hedeleted the voice message from his dead wife that he kept playing
>>82351113
one batch, two batch
penny and dime
>>82351113
Did it get deleted though. Did it?
>>82351069
did he?
>>82351108The Avengers killed his whole family during the Sokovia shenanigans. Thanks, Whedon
>>82351138
Now he replays it in his head while looking at the wall of his cell, thinking about Steve's eyes. He won.
>>82351042
Yeah, and then the purple skull with god like powers will fuck up everything by making Stark and Steve friends again.
He was a good zemo that wasnt even zemo.
sasuga marvel
>>82351145I'm wondering, does he specifically say his family died as part of the city falling at the end of Age of Ultron? Because there was one other attack the Avengers made on Sokovia.
>>82351042
>compelling motivation
I just saw the movie and thoroughly enjoyed it but don't be an idiot OP. His motivation was just the Twins motivation from Age of Ultron but recent.
>>82351194
>He was a good zemo that wasnt even zemo.
I don't understand the people who say this. I can only imagine they have not read Zemo in Thunderbolts. He sure wasn't the Zemo you have right now in Standoff.
>>82351042
>no powers
Dropped.
>>82351209
I thought it was done a lot better because it was recent. The scars were fresh and he was more able to articulate them.
>>82351222
Zemo doesn't have powers in the comics, either. Apart from hijacking the moonstone(s) once or twice.
>>82351222
Is it dropped?
>>82351042
wasn't the entire point of the contract that everyone gets a trial?
Am I the only one that thinks his treatment in the end is fucked up? Being locked away in a torture glass cube thing?
Sure he bombed that king, and killed some nazis, but those are still human crimes and deserve a trial.
>>82351042
>almost destroys avengers with his wits alone
He just poked them with sticks a bit and hoped they would fight like retards over it.>Tony Stark, Winter Soldier killed your mom!!!!
>"Well, yeah, Steve told me years ago."
>Oh.
>>82351196
most likely the second one. I don't think there were any collateral during the first Sokovia raid. A few missiles hit the town but Zemo said his family lived in the woods.
>>82351196
Yeah, he specified the second one.
>>82351267
Wat, that's not how it goes at allCap knew about Bucky killing Tony's parents, but Tony didn't. Tony felt betrayed that Cap never told him
Did you even see the movie?
>>82351218
No. Youre getting it wrong.
thats what i meant, he is Zemo in everything but looks, i mean he has no background or esthetic relation to comics Zemo but his character is Zemo.
That line of having patience and expertise is enough to show how they nailed his intention without the Helmut 13th Nazi backstory
When's he going to get his purple sock mask?
>>82351273
>>82351291
Ah, okay. I just wondered because, obviously that HYDRA base is in the woods in AoU.
>>82351310
>Wat, that's not how it goes at all
No fucking shit.
That's how it could've gone, though. Zemo had no way of knowing that it wouldn't go like this. That's basically how the entirety of his "plot" plays out.
Anon, please try to keep up.
>>82351113
I didn't ask for these feels.
>>82351384
If that was the case I'm pretty sure there'd be some file on Bucky doing it, or that Zemo would have the wit to at least make sure he didn't know about it before going with this plan.
>>82351384
even if Cap had told Tony before, I don't think he would just go "lol u faild" after watching a guy beat his dad to death before strangling his mom.
Was he a villain?
>>82351042
I just realized the "DIVIDED WE FALL" chant must be a reference to Zemo, that's how one of the Under Siege chapters is called
I can't wait to see this shit
>>82351384
>Zemo was banking on manipulating the personalities and prejudices of the heroes to succeed
Yes, how unlike this character! What an outrageous and inappropriate plot point!
>>82351470
he did blow up the U.N. meeting thing.
>>82351325
Does he need it?
>>82351498
for you.
>>82351042
This guy will literally be the new Baneposting with his
>Did it?
Meme.
Fucking hell. But actually, speaking of, how's /tv/ liking the movie? How salty are their tears?
>>82351493
No, Bucky did that. It was all over the news and a big deal.
>>82351493
From my point of view the UN are evil.
>>82351531
It's later revealed thatZemo had used removable prosthetics to look like Bucky.
>>82351554
HAH! Good joke.
>>82351530
/tv/ hasn't even seen it.
>>82351580
Did we even watch the same movie?
Were you not paying attention?are you baiting me right now?
>>82351609
Am I?
>>82351042
>almost
He completly destroy them, the avengers don't trust each other only a cosmic level thread could bring them back
>>82351493
Did a Jar of Piss somehow get involved?
>>82351042
Am I the only one who thought he really looked like Toby Mcguire?
When He appeared I nearly shat myself thinking Toby came back to be spiderman.
>>82351793
>Tobey came back
>The first thing he did was hang someone upside down and drown them
>>82351840
That'll teach him to fix THE DAMN DOOR!
That line about Steve's eyes was really fuckin' gaylewds when?
>>82351261
Dudethe evidence is all there, and he fucking bombed the UN, not even hardcore terrorists have done that. His cunning alone makes him really dangerous, and if they trew him in a normal prison he'll probably an hero. If the dude was able to put manipulation and mind tricks on super powered freaks he would probably be catalogued as far more dangerous that even men like Bin Laden and the likes.
>>82351609
You are getting Stanked, brother.
It's possible Zemo is behind these posts.
>>82351042
He was so fucking boring holy shit the plot was so fucking stupid
>>82352720
For you.
>>82351042
Stop posting spoilers you fucking faggot. ffs are you so fucking new you don't know haw to spoilertag text?
>>82351209
Yeah, but the twins are simply lost children. While Helmut Zemo is seasoned military man, who has the brain, determination and resources to pull such feat.
>>82351069
>Do you really think it upsets me, James? Calling me a rat because I look like one? I don’t mind it. Rats are ugly, sure, and nobody likes them, but they’re very intelligent and they have a strong survival instinct.
>>82351069
>>82353927
https://youtu.be/b09_brnWoZc?t=44
I want to watch it again now, thanks anons
>>82352720
Was it so fucking boring?
>>82351042
I wouldn't call it compelling. I'd call it relatable.
I loved how he spelled it all out for that Hydra dude he killed.
Expertise + Patience = Success
>>82353804
>spoilers
>current year
>>82353804
Are you so fucking knew you think it's safe to browse /co/ after a new capeshit movie hit theaters?
>Literally the best MCU villain so far
You know, that's like a sane guy winning the Special Olympics.
>>82351554Wait, i thought it was that dead guy in the bath.
Got him confused with a cleaned up Bucky at the start of the film.
>>82351042
>doesn't die
>obviously isn't done yet
Hopefully we either get Masters of Evilthough this Zemo is sympathetic enough that I can see him doing a Thunderbolts turn
>>82355749
You say that as if sanity would somehow make him more athletic or as if the special olympics is full of insane people rather than disabled people.
>>82351042
I really liked him.
Really hoping we get to see him put on the purple mask in the future.
>>82351222
See it's this kind of shit that taints this fucking board. People who get ass blasted that something is "changed" when in reality they just don't read comics.
>Spiderman quips
>DROPPED
>Zemo has no superpowers
>DROPPED
Get the fuck out
So what role did Jim Rash play and will Gillian Jacobs be in Infinity War?
>>82358506
He literally played the Dean.And Infinity War should have Joel McHale doing the Soup on the Avengers.
>>82358506
Gillian as Death who keeps nagging Thanos.
>>82358506
>you will never see Community season 1 for the first time again
>you will never be able to forget seasons 3+
>>82351042
Let us remember Zemo's humble beginnings as a one-shot villain with a silly costume that dies at the end of his first appearance by falling into a vat of hot glue.
>>82351042
>sob story = compelling motivation
I wish this fallacy would end.
>>82358551
>>82358506
IW should have Garrett.
>>82358741
what are those fucking googly eyes?!
>>82360296
it's a bigger motivation than lex had in BvS.
perspective does weird things to people.
>>82360511
>Garrett about to be crushed by falling debris
>Iron Man swoops in and saves him.
>Later on, Tony and Steve are arguing about civilians being in danger.
>"We saved those civilians!"
>"Did we?"
>>82360894
>it's a bigger motivation than lex had in BvS.
Yeah, they fucked it up. Luthor's goal isn't to kill Superman, his goal is to take over the world, and Superman is an obstacle.
>>82360992
he should've just dumped a squid into new york instead of doomsday.
And I can see that motivation working. It just wasn't set up, which is unfortunate.
>>82351042
Yeah, but how did he know that Tony would track Bucky and Steve down to Siberia? He wanted them to kill each other, right? What if Tony never turned up? His plan would've failed then.
>>82351042
He's a cute
>>82360034
Season 5 wasn't bad
>>82361156
remember when his sick mother awoke from a coma and he did all that crazy shit to make her believe east germany was still communist so she doesn't die from shock?
;_;
>>82361117
Then he would have just posted the footage on the internet so Tony could see it.
>>82351530
/tv/ is so deep in irony that is not possible to tell what they thought of the movie. Seriously the threads of BvS there would make a normal dude insane
>>82351793
Nah. It also gave met that vibe
Spider-Man vs Spider-Man when?
>>82351793
Nice outfit, did your car crash dead parents did it for you ?
>>82361117
>only Steve and Bucky show up
>doesn't kill the Winter Soldiers, uses the Soviet commands to activate them and Bucky from inside the missile bunker
>Cap is killed
>Tony let Cap get killed
>Avengers are fractured
>Zemo still has Bucky and the footage to use later
>>82361755
/tv/ is the savior we need
did they kill him off?
I am happy about this thread because because it made me discover the movie Rush.
Is Civil War good?
I consider the first Avengers movie a 7/10 and Ultron a 5/10
Are any of you real people?
>>82362056
nope, he's stuck in the electrical glass torture box for supersoldiers. for some reason.
>>82362141
affirmative.
>>82351105
Did he get a multi-movie deal?
Might be an indicator.
Not that that means too much, Hugo Weaving also had an option in his contract to reappear as the Red Skull
>>82352412
Zemo's homolust for Cap is a defining character trait in the comics.
>>82362083
It's a better Avengers movie than both.
>>82351108
>Muh family
>>82362295
Are you mocking the patrician motivation?
>>82351042
It's my favourite too, i hope we will back with mask
>>82351493
did he blow up the meeting thing?
>>82351531
was it? was it a big deal?
>>82351065
Did it succeed? All he did was break up the team, they still all mostly like each other. It's not like Caps team can't work out of Wakanda on jobs Tony's team can't.
>>82351592
Did it?
>>82364107
>they still all mostly like each other
>"Look! the futurist! the futurist! Watch your back!"
I don't think so.
Was the timeframe ever as explicitly stated as it is in this movie? Seems like they're just going by real time, Stark revealed himself 8 years ago, I think Ross refers to NYC as 4 years ago.
>>82364394
This.
"Iron Man" happened in early 2008.
"Iron Man 2", "The Incredible Hulk" and "Thor" happened roughly around the same time, in late 2008 or early 2009.
Cap was thawed out in 2011.
"Avengers" in 2012, "Iron Man 3" six months later.
"The Dark World" in 2013, "Winter Soldier" in 2014. "Age of Ultron" and "Ant-Man" in 2015, and now here we are.
>>82364585
>>82364394
Iron Man 2 happened in 2010, Iron Man was retconned to be only 6 months before that. Incredible Hulk and Thor happened in the same week as Iron Man 2. Avengers and every movie after that happened roughly when it came out, except for Iron Man 3 which took place during Christmas even though it released in the spring.
If you want to count Agents of SHIELD, it offers even more confirmation of Winter Soldier and Age of Ultron taking place during the week they were released since they fit into the show's timeline that way.
>>82361239
Goodbye Lenin is a great movie, thanks for reminding me where i had seen him before.
>>82362215
My thoughts exactly, the entire time i was sitting there i was thinking that this was the best Avengers movie so far.
>>82362083
Civil War is what Age of Ultron should've been; a better continuation of the first Avengers film to the tone of Winter Soldier.
>>82351042
>compelling motivation
>muh dead family.
>>82368661
Refer to:
>>82362327
>>82351042
What is his motivation?
>>82369801
he's trying to force steve's hand and make him lose his virginity already after 97 years
>>82369801
muh 90's movies
I cant take him seriously without a purple sock
>>82369987
Can't you?
I want suicide squead to succed so we can get a Thunderbolts
>>>>82361755
/tv/ threads on BvS are the best example of Poe's Law on the Internet. I literally can't tell who is jewing who.
>>82361860
This. /tv/ is the most 4chan board on 4chan. It's like the opposite of /co/.
>>82364107
>All he did was break up the team, they still all mostly like each other
All he did was break up the team and make most of the Avengers apart from Tony, Vision, Spidey and Rhodey into wanted criminals, you mean.
And Spidey isn't really even an Avenger yet.plus if JJJ is around he might be dealing with his own pressures from the law
>>82371084
Thor and Hulk are gonna be confused as fuck when they return to Earth. I wonder how Tony is going to approach them?
Just had a thought as to how Zemo might figure into Infinity War.
The Time Gem and the Soul Gem, both of which would allow him ways to see his family again.
Both of which are going to be revealed in Phase 3.
Maybe that'll be Part 1 of Infinity War, the Time Gem is revealed somewhere on Earth and Zemo forms the Masters of Evil to obtain it.
