I didn't see a Transformers thread, and aren't MTMTE and SOTW coming out tomorrow? Have at, I guess.
Previous thread was >>82031731 I believe.
MTMTE #52 spoilersOverlord shows up to help the DJD and Deathsaurus kill Megatron and friends, and Tarn kills Kaon for disobeying orders to try to save the Pet.
>>82249906
HYPE.
Anyone have spoilers for us yet? I know it's been released already in some places.
>>82250387
Right above you.
>>82250485
Yeah I saw right after I hit submit, sorry.
>switched windows
>mouse was hovering on spoilers
Why me, Primus?
>>82250865
>>82250888
>>82250865
>>82250888
>>82250905
>>82250926
>>82250381
Can anyone confirm this?
>>82250381Well that made Rewind's sacrifice pointless. Did he at least survive so that he can disappear by getting to close to his other self?
>>82251065>Well that made Rewind's sacrifice pointless.Not really. The whole point of his sacrifice was just to get Overlord off the ship, which they still accomplished. They never gave the impression that Overlord was dead. He was still in one piece.
>>82251045
Yes.
>>82251045
>>82251475
GOD DAMMIT
>>82251475
I was not ready.
>>82250381
Well shit... that doesn't really make much sense. So he immediately kills a subordinate for not following orders, and allows Overlord to join? How does that make him any better than Megatron?
>>All these tempting spoiler boxes
What time does comixology put up new comics again? Trying not to spoil this issue for once
>>82251564
between 2 and 3CT usually
>>82251475Tarn talking like this to Overlord makes me think he'll be the one that eventually kills Tarn.
>>82251475WHAT ABOUT HIS PET??
>>82251646Drift has a doggie now.
>>82251475You come into my house, on this the day of my teammate's execution
>>82251475
Isn't it nice to haveOverlordback?
>>82251719
Fuuuuck this is getting good.
>>82251564
Stay strong, anon.
I couldn't.
>>82251719Is Overlord actually afraid of Tarn? Why doesn't he just take over?
I'm glad Overlord is back but Kaon was my favorite DJD member...I really liked the no-eyes/pet loving approach for a bad guy.
>>82251719Look at that smug motherfucker.I'm so glad he's back.
>>82251803If he rushed Tarn out of nowhere, Tarn could just use his Voice. Better to trick Deathsaurus into taking the brunt of the blow and attack when Tarn is distracted.
>>82251810Me too
>>82251803They do fight each other when Overlord first arrives, then from what I understand, they realize they'd be better off working together.
>>82251475
>Turn the DJD into a group of silly people doing silly things that betray their core values because Tarn a sad
>Kill a squadmate for a minor quibble and then mash his face into the chest of the bot who was at the absolute top of their shitlist for centuries
>Sitting here with my 3rd partyKaontoy and feel nothing but lament
Fuck this comic man.
>>82251853clever girl
>>82251877Ive got my Kaon out too, glad I got him before this.Hes not really dead if his toy is fine...right?
>>82251877I just went and got mine too.
I'm so sad.
>>82251921N-no, he's still here.
>>82251877
>>82251921
>>82251934
>>82251950I was expecting deaths on the other side. Not poor Kaon. I was a fool!
>>82252021I knew we were gonna have deaths in the DJD, it was bound to happen at some point, I just wasn't expecting Kaon for such a sad reason.
>>82249906
Who is red one? I didn't see him so far.
>>82252163
Kaon.
He's Kaon.
>>82252021
>>82252082
>>82252188
>>82252243
Good night sweet thing.
Just went up on comixology
>>82252536
You in the US? It's not available for me yet.
>>82250381
>Tarn kills Kaon for disobeying orders to try to save the Pet.
>Tarn does not immediately murderfuck Overlord on the spot for being on their shitlist
Yeah I could blame it all on them being coked out nucleon robo-nazi fanatics, but fuck you Tarn. You used to have standards man.
I hope Deathsaurus rips him in half now.
Holy shit this issue. So many thoughts.Who does Nautica thinking of as a possible Conjunx Endura? Skids please!Dat banter between Overlord and Tarn. lolTarn hugging Kaon then killing him You ass! I hope this makes Nickel turn on him.
>>82252726
Well he let Dethsaurs and Co live so exceptions are being made
Besides killing Overlord would take time and effort, that should be spent on killing megs
>>82251475
I immediately went and pulled up the drawing I did of him way back. Now I'm sad.
>>82252726
He abandoned Kaon and Vos the second they got into to trouble previously, this isn't new.
R.I.P.
>>82252726
HIDE YOUR SPOILERS
>>82252827
I thought they believed they were already dead and Helex wanted to request a retrieval of their bodies.
>>82252833
What.
The.
Fuck.
Tarn.
>>82252859
They were still alive when they left them, they were assuming they were a lost cause and ran because the Galactic Council was right there.
Ok whose death is gonna be worse tomorrow?KaonHubcapRoadbuster
>>82252833Look at his face. The grief.
My face, the grief.
It's a big grief circle.
>>82252833
I'm sure this is going to inspire the troops. Good job Tarn, if people had doubts about joining, or killing you, they're sure to make up their minds now.
>>82252895
Those two chased the organics down to the planet. Then reinforcements showed up and the rest had to run off. Given the situation, they were vastly out numbered. So that seems understandable.
>>82252916
>those last two
Do those actually happen?
>>82252833He trusted you with everything he had, you fucking bastard.
Drift you had better not fucking killed the pet.
>>82252744
Not sure where the first spoiler is from, but I'd bet Nightbeat.
Unless they go all PC on us still...
>>82253026Considering it was a hostage, I doubt it.
>>82253004
Probably?
we know SOMEONE'S gonna die, I mean, it's a wreckers story.
And those two have literally ALL the deathflags.
You know it won't be springer, because we still have to have him find out he was invented by Prowl/Tarantulus and has no soul, thus needs to become a real boy first.
>>82253062
Stakeout already did.
>>82253043
>Not sure where the first spoiler is from,
It's really speculation from this scene.
>>82253119
How would Nautica know what the customs are on other colonies?
>>82253137
She traveled with Thunder Clash or just read it up.
>>82253164
Read it up where?
>>82253182
Rung has lots of data files and we know the two were friends. Rung could have lent her all kinds of stuff during her many months on the Lost Light.
>>82253182
Behind scenes? She does read like when she mentioned reading up about Rung's data files.
So where are you?
I'm deep in Anger.
>>82253380
Shock and denial for me. Although reading the issue finally I better understand whyTarndid what he did.
>>82253119
ah, that's a good point.
So they're clearly wanting to avoid amica endura, and they're clearly looking for a cybertronian (that doesn't narrow it down much)
but that, to me, suggests that the bot they feel for isn't one they really could see having a friendship with.
Or perhaps even more interesting, a deep friendship with one, but a longing with another, unsure if cybertron was okay with that sort of split emotional bonding.
>>82253407
I suspect it is part of the greater "weeding out the weak" mentality.
Especially because Tarn is likely seeing himself as the "new" megatron.
Am I close?
>All this pain
In other news,what did Tarantulus do to Verity? I hope this means she will live.
>>82253431
I meant more about how he was being picked on byOverlord and how he had just had such a bad meeting with Megatron. Kaon picked a helluva moment to barge in; he might not have been killed had he waited until later and Tarn was more calm.
>>82253478
He is jacked up on the special fuel and that does make him edgy.
>>82253119
>I oly got a few hours to live
>I have to get laid
priorities
>>82253478So he did it to relieve stress? Oh boy, lets see how long it takes Tesarus to defect.
>>82253243
>>82253254
And how would Rung have files on the colonies?
>>82253554Another thing going wrong/adding to his growing pile of stress and he just... lashed out at it. It was the straw that broke the camel's back. Kaon just picked a bad time to walk in. Makes me wonder if Tarn will regret it later since when he first joined up with Deathsaurus he said would never sacrifice any of his team :( It seemed like an impulse thing.
>>82253699
Dunno. Like I said before she traveled with Thunder Clash who did come across other colonies or she read it up somewhere.
>>82253740Now that you mention it, this could prove to be a wedge between Deathsaurus' and Tarn's alliance...
>>82253763
>or she read it up somewhere.
Cybertron only just came in contact with the colonies again. There is no literature anywhere for her to read about this stuff.
>>82252833
Tran is really doing nothing to try and downplay the whole "ow the edge" stereotype" everyone thinks he is.
>>82253798
what is the argument here?
That shes lying?
>>82253798
Alright then if getting reading materials is that straight forward from Cybertron only then she learned it from travelling with Thunder Clash.
>>82253829
That there's been a mistake in the writing. Hell, the Thunderclash explanation doesn't work either because Windblade and Chromia hadn't been to any other colonies prior to the Windblade book, and they were with Thunderclash the same time Nautica was.
>>82253798
But now they are, and they can probably send info directly to the LL. She probably just downloaded it, then read it on her Ipad thing.
Someone ask Roberts on twitter for an answer.
Maybe Nautica just uses the cybernet. Scavengers troll on Autopedia and visit Con forums, why wouldn't Nautica be able to check out colonyposters?
>>82253857
They were on Cybertron for around 6 months before Megatron became captain. So she could of picked up a ton of new information.
Impactor kills Hubcap.
>>82253938
Except that they didn't come in contact with any of the other colonies during that time. That only started at the end of the first Windblade mini.
>>82253941Prowl gains a conscience
>>82253495Overlord standing their mocking him in front of everyone does though, look at Tarn's face the whole time and how tense he is.
>>82253740I'm betting he will regret, look at Nickel's face in the next panel, she was standing right next to him when he did it. She'll either yell at him or be so afraid/disgusted that she goes off by herself and won't speak to him.
>>82253958
But they did sorta. The call Cybertron sent out after Dark Cybertron. All those new bots appearing back on the planet. Not all of them are like on the council. You got other colonies that wasn't taken in like Nickel's colony.
>>82253958
>>82254001
Plus isn't the one on the council all have some sort of titan?
>>82253958
Then either fucking ask Roberts on twitter or this >>82253931 is the answer.
>>82253941
A warning on that would have been nice, I thought it was another mtmte spoiler, which I've already read, but haven't gotten to Wreckers yet.
>>82254001
You are getting very mixed.
The call was sent after Chaos, not DC.
All of those bots are NAILs, not colonists. They received the signal because they were from Cybertron originally. The term "colonies" has been used exclusively for the 13 Metrotitan colonies... which Nickel has already been said to be from, specifically one named Prion. It's kind of hard to take in her colony when it had been wiped out before they even got a chance to find it. They still haven't found all of the 13 colonies, they even just talked about this in the recent exRiD.
>>82253958
The 13 colony SHIPS aren't the only colonies of cybertronians to ever exist, obviously.
>>82254268
They've sure as hell made them sound like they're the only major ones that formed their own governments, customs, and the like, as no one's talked about any others and they're only recruiting those colonies for the Council of Worlds.
>>82254341
They're the notable ones because they're different from the colonies that Autobots, Decepticons and NAILs might've settled in for during the war.
How is it so hard to get?
I was really pleased to see that one kill Tarantulas got. I've been waiting for someone to kill usingmass shiftingfor years now.
A shame about the victim,Roadbuster, though.
>>82250381
How utterly, utterly disappointing. Par for the course.
mtmte #52 download link from Win-O'-Thread
https://userscloud.com/uovlh3bb3qcc
It's a bit of a shame Vos didn't die instead, given that Trailcutter died to revive him - making it all the more pointless.
On the plus side, they can justconvert Kaon into chair mode permanently and use him as furniture.
>>82255166
Psh, this is Cybertron, not Carcer.
>>82255166
Stemming from that, most of the DJD could be repurposed after they die.
Kaon - chair
Vos - gun
Helex - microwave oven
Tesarus - paper shredder
here comes a special boy
Coming 2017: Titans Return Kaon with Pet headmaster.
>>82255295
>making a literal who over someone more deserving
Considering Hasbro was too lazy to make bodies for Squeezeplay and Nightbeat, makes sense.
>>82255348
>a joke
Your head
>>82255368
>>82255287
it's him he's here he's the special boy
>>82255380
>MFW
it's time to sin
>>82255492
FINALLY
>>82255380
BEST BOY INCOMING
>>82255626
that's it there's nothing left
>>82255369
I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.
Is killing Kapn supposed to be shocking? Why does Roberts keep treating the death of nobodies like it's shocking
>>82255710
Read the latest MTMTE and you might get why a headmaster joke about Kaon could be funny.
>>82255727
*Kaon
Though does he really deserve his name being spelled well?
>>82255399
>>82255404
Two, count 'em two transformations in MTMTE. The end is near, tanks be to Ga.
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>>82255727
JRo hasn't been treating it as anything. Chill your pants princess
>>82255454
Ow, the edge.
>>82255755
>JRo hasn't been treating it as anything
Read his damn Twitter. The guy is always acting like each issue is gonna be full of suspense and tears.
Also if you do a grisly death that's a huge part of the page it's on, it's pretty obvious that the author wants you to be shocked by it
>>82255540
Prowl's beat up face never ceases to turn me on
>>82255790
it's called marketing, son
>>82255803
It's also dishonest and makes the issue add up to even more of a wet fart
>>82255639
So Verity is going to be OK?
>>82255823
>marketing
>dishonest
Is this your first time following fiction as it's published?
>>82255846
>it's done a lot so that means you have to like it
>>82255454
>>82255457
>Tarn making the same mistakes Megatron did
Wew lad looks like you're going to have to face a pissed off sparkeater now. Probably more will turn on him as well.
Also Defensor saving everyone when?
>>82255576
>"matted little fender-chaser"
Get the med unit ready, Tidal Wave's delivering sick burns.
>>82255626
Does Arcee have a MechTech gun on her roof?
Question
Is Primus actually Cybertron?
>>82255727
Because he's a shitty writer.
>>82255870
It really seems like this arc is leading up to Tarn becoming Megatron 2, and probably being stopped before he can do it. Be it by being killed or talked out of it.
>>82255920
In IDW there's no indication either way. In other universes, often yes.
Hot damn.
We got a Phaser Sixer, anti-Phase Sixer unit commander and uh, Deathsaurus in one ship.
>>82255925
thanks a friend of mine was saying Primus wasn't cybertron and Starscream was Unicron I called BS on both.
Well I see another shitty MTMTE has arrived and with it the Roberts Defense Force.
>>82255922
Shitty marketer =/= shitty writer
Just because you suck on his dick and get pumped on hype doesn't mean the writing sucks. Stop looking at previews etc and chill.
We still have 3 issues of MTMTE left.
What can they do to fill up the time?
>>82255941
More like another MTMTE and with it the obligatory shitposting squad.
Fuel your hateboner with some facts and maybe you could get others to join your little excuse of a circlejerk.
>>82255960
Stretching
>>82255960
What happens in 3 issues? Is that when Titans Return starts? I wasn't sure we had a hard date.
>>82255960
Wait, three issues left?
>>82255960
Issue from Pet's perspective, flashback to Ravage getting training to fly a ship and why Drift took Windblade's facial paint.
>>82255960
Finish up the arc, two issues of Titan Return and after that it's MTMTE again.
>Overlords benefactors are probably Quintessons and want Megatron dead for what happened in Monstrosity.
NOT GUILTY
>>82255457
Shit, even Overlord was put off by that... or having someone's head smashed against his chest is making him squeamish.
>>82255976
Sentinel Prime will return on July
That's when it starts
>>82255999
>I was just teasing you man
>Damn, he isn't a coddled baby after all. Sorry dude I got killed
>>82255960
Initial combat, looks like they're winning
DJD gets the upper hand, hope seems lost
Megatron in new body with fusion cannon saves the day
Or
Bloody battle hope seems lost
Lost Lighters manage to pull out a victory
Conclusion chapter.
>>82255390
Roberts, can we stop with this ridiculous Rodimus-Drift shipping?
Please?
Same goes for Ratchet-Drift.
Just no.
>>82255380
Call me a fag all you want but I got literal goosebumps at this page.
Overlord is best lord.
>>82256052
>characters have relationships
>shipping
Put away the fucking shipping goggles for once and read like a normal person
Gotta love Deathy's extra set of eyes.
And what was he thinking when Tarn pull off that shit?
>Tarn you nigbot, you just told me several issues ago you ain't slaggin' yo homies. Not cool man, not cool.
>>82255617
Poor Roadbuster. Then again we have seen bots live despite their heads being destroyed before in IDW so pull out them asspulls for this one.
Have to say these two issues are the perfect remedy for the endless onslaught of boring exRiD comics.
MTMTE was flailing for a while but they've managed to keep it going at a nice pace recently with meaningful things happening to meaningful characters. Plus, with seemingly randomly bringing Overlord back you can assume more is to come from it, as opposed to John 'I'll resolve this in 5 years' Barber.
SOTW also offers a nice combination of drama, fighting and tiny twists. It's not as if characters are doing full on 180s but it's a great read.
Meanwhile, exRiD is becoming more and more like The Phantom Menace. Nobody cares about the characters, the politics are really poorly done and they keep introducing things nobody wants unless done right.
I say we petition neatly timed mini's to replace exRiD and do all its smaller elements right.
Is Rodimus and Drift's reunion supposed to be touching?
Because he's only become a bigger asshole since Drift left. He's learned jack shit.
>>82255790
>The guy is always acting like each issue is gonna be full of suspense and tears
If you had actually read the responses to his tweets or what is tweeted AT him, you'll understand why he thinks that.
Endless tumblr fanboyisms can't be good for any author. At least the issues are good again.
>>82256123
>>82255999
>Shit, that was dark.
-I did not see this coming at all
-Maybe I shouldn't have taunted the guy that can kill with his voice
-I have made a terrible mistake
>>82255997
>Overlord rebuilt by Quintessons like Optimus in the cartoon
>Optimus pulls an asspull to defeat the hate plague
>Megatron pulls an asspull to defeat the DJD/Overlord/Deathsaurus
Not quite pottery
>>82256155
Yes, I know, he carefully cultivates this echo chamber he can easily call on to give himself validation
But it's a house of cards. Just look at what happened with the Grimlock and Scavengers arc when his followers stopped patting him on the ass
>>82256155
>At least the issues are good again.
They are? We must be reading different stories.
>>82256133
The Writers are really bad on letting Rodimus grow.He's always the perpetual ineffectual leader.
Optimus's growth is more about him reclaiming his position as a leader.Hestill is my favorite character, but his incredible rash of bad luck and lack of respect is annoying to me. I miss the days when people respected him.
We're talking about Optimus Prime. Probably the ONLY guy who could take down an enraged Megatron.The guy who turns impossible loses into complete miracles.
At least Megatron's had a pretty good arc.He's become a better , more complex character through introspection.
Starscream's finally having his day in the sun like he always wanted.
>transformations
>actions scenes
>plot progression
>no Community references
>no retardy Dr Who wannabe science
>normal non overwritten unfunny dialogue
This...this can't be Roberts. Someone else must've took over MTMTE.
>>82256170
Can't win against a reply like that, I'll concede these comics are shit. Thank you for enlightening me, Sir.
>>82256195
Shh, what are you doing. You can't say this issue isn't terrible on this board.
>>82256068
>If you read my aura, or listen to the timber of my voice, or look at the colors of my eyes...
Tell me it doesn't sound like cheesy harlequin novel.
And I know how cheesy harlequin novels can be.
(Never forget to bring your own books for trips)
>>82256123
Barber's stories could get resolved faster if he wasn't forced to stop every 5 months to sell whatever toys Hasbro is bringing out. Let's face it, Optimus Maximus was not in Barber's plans for how to resolve things.
>>82256195
So that's what took Sins of Wreckers so long to come out, Roche had to fill in.
>>82256233
No, he had a family emergency.
>>82256226
Yeah, I feel like this series would be FIFTY times better if the comics didnt have to fucking cater to the toys.
I love Transformers, and IDW's done a fucking AMAZING job at ressurecting a franchise and turning it good, but it could be better without some jarring discontinuity shit and the Hasbro crap.
>>82256191
Yeah shame about that.
He went through a lot of shit including dealing with traitors, getting caught and tortured, brushed with death several times and touched the goddamn Matrix itself.
But he's still his old Spotlight: Hot Rod self, except this time everyone takes him more seriously.
>>82255997
Its actually probably those weirdoz with the symbol from the last scavengers issue
>>82256272
I kind of understand IDW, though.
You cant be having too many "Wise Heroic Leaders of Justice" types.
The writers probably feel that Hot Rod's idealistic, heroic ,impulsive, oft unwise ways is what differentiate him from OP.
And IDW's always taken care to shit on the "HEROIC WISE LEADERS"-tier characters. OP is still tries, but he has incredible bad luck. He always succeeds, mind you- he always comes through, and saves the day and the world, but gets no respect.I mean, just last chapter, a NOBODY told him basically that he wasnt a 'true Prime'.
Thunderclash is played for jokes.
Starsaber's supposed to be HEROIC LEADER OF BURNING JUSTICE, but now's just Zealot Burning Hate tier type.
IDW just hates heroes, I think.
>>82255445
>Nautica about to get a conjux
Nautica about to become a canon lesbian is upcoming I guess.
>>82256341
Megatron was a hero. Prowl is a hero.
>>82256341
The entire IDW TF series got kickstarted by Ratchet trying to be a hero.
Ratchet's one life at a time philosophy got Hunter, Verity Jimmy and Earth-based Autobots into troubles during the earlier -ations, and his "heroic nonsense" got him chewed out by Prowl.
Reminds me of
>we're not here to do the decent thing, we're here to follow fucking orders!
>>82256371
>Prowl is a hero.
Thank you Anon.
You revived my faith in this fandom.
>>82255445
>Roller on the list
Oh fuck son
>>82256361
She's asking about Cybertronian customs so she wants some Cybertronian cock. It's probably Skids.
The tumblr butthurt will be delicious.
>>82256586
Either Skids, Brainstorm or Nightbeat.
I seem to recall something about "Nautica will not be shipped with anybody" though.
>>82256725
That was because she was the only gurl in MTMTE.
Now that there are two with more to come because tumblr bitched about Roberts only bringing in Velocity, Nautica can get shipped.
>>82251475
>He's back
>Tarn being so spot-on about him
>>82255358
So who's going to die permanently this time?
I mean immortal lawman is immortal lawman, Nightbeat got that sweet Titanmaster contract with Hasbro, McCarthy has his deathmail-spam button at the ready to Roberts' address and the fembot quota must be fulfilled all the time.
>>82256877
Who's gif related?
>>82257307
Alex Milne
>>82257307
Shattered Glass Ratchet
>>82257307
Pharma
>>82255454
Guess that can be somewhat karma for killing Trailcutter.
They even die in a similar way.
>>82257349
Ah, yes. Hands dude.
>>82257239
Chromedome.
>>82253026
Chances are Drift adopts The Pet somehow.
>>82257841
but he's getting a toy this year
So does this issue basically confirm Tarn is Roller?
>>82258006
Roller is confirmed missing >>82255445
so not yet.
>>82258006
>>82258033
Besides Roller, who else could Tarn be? The implication was that whoever Megatron corrupted into Tarn was a big score for him.
>>82258109
Glitch, the Outlier who could shut down machinery with a touch, and who was said could learn to do it at a distance.
>>82258006
More or less. But he's really not much more confirmed than before.
>>82255331
Just like my Beast Wars!
Ok, I know that nobody cares, but here's how I imagined Hubcap's reason for joining Tarantulus:
Verity: "How could you do this Ironfist? What could make you work for this lunatic?"
Hubcap: "Revenge. For Ironfist."
Verity: "Ironfist? But Ironfist died because he had something wrong with his head. Prowl had nothing to do with that."
Hubcap: "It's more than that, Verity. Ironfist had a friend named Skyfall, but it turns out that Skyfall wasn't really Ironfist's friend. Skyfall wanted Ironfist's lab REALLY badly, so he tried a number of things to get Ironfist out of the picture. Eventually, Skyfall set up Ironfist's automatic-headshot-gun to shoot Ironfist in the head. It was only a matter of time before the bullet reached Ironfist's brain and killed him. And since Ironfist was living on borrowed time, Prowl had him put into the Wreckers, in order to get past Aequitas' suicide lock.
But it turns out sabotaging the headshot gun wasn't really Skyfall's idea. SOMEONE ELSE gave it to him... Would anyone like to guess who?"
Verity: "N-no..."
Hubcap: "It was PROWL. HE gave Skyfall the idea. HE set up Ironfist's death from the very beginning!"
...
But in the end, in a potential plot-twist, Prowl was never responsible for what happened to Ironfist. Tarantulus made Hubcap THINK Prowl was responsible by using a thought-gun (like Getaway has) to give him the idea, in order to use him.
