Would you read a Rightclops ongoing? No Cyke Jr, shit, the real deal.
>>82022334
Scott is a leader. He's at his best when he's leading. There's a reason he's the main character of the X-men, while never really striking out on his own, he's the core by which the rest of the teams and x-men universe revolve around.
Hence why the X-men franchise always spins out of control when Scott gets written out, like in the aftermath of The Twelve and right now.
>>82022334
If its something like "Cyclops and the X-Men" cause he needs a team to boss around.
>>82022334
I'd read a team up with black bolt
I'd read it, but it wouldn't work. Scott's whole reason for being is tied up in leading the X-Men.
Ideally a Cyclops ongoing would be exactly like Uncanny, just all funnelled through Scott's perspective. I'd read the fuck out of that.
B-but I like the Cyke Jr shit...
>>82022455
Shit I'm down fund it
No one seems to get him at Marvel right now. I wish they'd take a stance and have him off retired/dead for a reason instead of this dumb mystery shit.
>>82022334
only if his Harem of psykers followed him
>>82022455
Holy fuck Rightclops and Black Bolt... I need this thing in my life
No.
I miss my straight laced, morally strong, keeps his sense of right and justice when all around him are losing theirs honorable Cyclops.
>>82023572
So Captain America?
>>82022715
And you really think that a solo title would end the dumb mystery shit?
HE'S the reason there was a "third Summers Brother" mystery.
HE'S the reason Mr.Sinister ran a mysterious orphanage and secretly cloned Jean Grey.
HE'S the reason aliens (shocking revelation) abducted half his family.
HE'S the reason Iceman's gay, I mean, come on: HE'S just that sexy!
Do you really want to give Marvel an excuse to come up with another mysterious storyline? - ? - ? - ?
(Trust me. You don't want that next door opened. You want more current status quo.)
I've been wondering for a while and this seems like a good place to ask: What do I read if I want to read Cyclops decent into fascism?
>>82023905
>God Loves Man Kills (just for the frame of reference of classic Cyclops)
>Morrison's New X-men
>Whedon's Astonishing X-men
>Decimation
>Messiah Complex
>Manifest Destiny
>Utopia
>X-force
>Fraction's Uncanny X-men
>Second Coming
>Prelude to Schism
>Schism
>Astonishing X-men: Exalted
>Gillen's Uncanny X-men
>AvX
>AvX: Consequences
Some of that stuff has overlap or happens concurrently, but just stick to publication dates and you should be fine.
>>82024590
>>82023905
Oh, also X-men: Deadly Genesis before Messiah Complex.
>>82023905
Well, his time with the Phoenix power was really slow slide in action... and he wasn't alone for that crazytrain trip.
The X-comics that companioned AvsX were full of a lot more wrong-ness but AvsX has the broadstrokes.
Past then it's the Bendis Uncanny X-Men books; revolution declarations, chumming around with Magneto, and "no-compromises" New Mutant student training...
He was kinda scary in the AvengersWorld precursor stories to the last SecretWars, but those have been retconed into non-existence.
But before even all that the first symptoms of overdoing things were Cyclop's X-Force and his tactics during and after that Messiah War: Second Coming.
So... ?
(I don't actually think he's fascist/evil at all... Cyclops was FRAMED!)
>>82023905
>fascism
Where are people getting this?
>>82023604
>So Captain America?
Yes? Cyclops used to more or less be Captain Mutant for all intents
>>82023905
>fascism
CBR go away.
>>82022334
So what did Rightclops do to be killed?
>>82025240
>Where are people getting this?
Did you just miss the entire decade where he had a militant island nation and basically declared war on any human who so much as looked at a mutant funny
>>82024924
This page reminded me that it might actually be worth seeing it to the end, in which case
>>82024590
After AvX: Consequences, there's:
>Bendis' Uncanny X-men (warning: bad)
>Hickman's New Avengers/Avengers: Time Runs Out (the 8 pages he's in are better than the entirety of Bendis' Uncanny)
>Secret Wars
>>82025380
That's not fascism. That's a reasonable response to several genocides.
>>82025340
I dream of a depowered Scott Summers becoming Captain America.
>>82025240
It's "good leadership" when a HUMAN does the same things...
... But when a MUTANT acts deliberately to protect his people?
Then it's "fascism".
So typical.
>>82025454
>That's a reasonable response to several genocides.
Trying to use the powers of a cosmic firebird that killed billions in order to force mutation on people who didn't want sure as shit isn't reasonable.
That's a super villain plan.
>>82023829
>HE'S the reason there was a "third Summers Brother" mystery.
Such a dissatisfying answer. Vulcan was sub-Adam-X in every regard.
Gambit was best choice for Third Summers Brother.
>>82025380
>decade
Utopia started in 2009, it was destroyed tree years later.
>>82025378
He was so right that editorial wasn't able to make people turn on him no matter what they did, so they had to kill him off during a timeskip and not elaborate on the details because they knew they couldn't come up with anything where Scott didn't come off as right.
He was literally too right to live.
And now in his absence, the X-men flail wildly out of control as a franchise. The best X-men book right now is Uncanny Avengers.
>>82022334
fuck no
>>82025498
That wasn't his fault. The cosmic fire bird was gonna do that anyway.
>>82022406
>>82022525
so what you're saying is that he's a flat character.
>>82025584
You're an idiot.
>>82025558
No but old Scott would have fought to stop it. He would have tried to find away to tell the pheonix to fuck right off. He would have stood against it and tried to protect everyone and not destroy people's lives because he wanted to be the superior race.
He would have done the hero thing.
>>82025617
no, anons were saying that he can't solo. that's some beta shit right there.
>>82025520
>he did this
>blaming beast
yeah sure. it's beast's fault everyone else was fine with younger O5 just fucking around in the future for awhile instead of sending them back.
>>82025498
Cyclops wasn't trying to use Phoenix to make mutants great again, he was saying Phoenix will bring mutants back. In the end, it was Hope's choice to bring mutants back.
>>82025634
Nah, because those peoples' lives were ruined when Scarlet Witch said "no more mutants", he would just fix them back
>>82025634
Then it'd have to be Scott who does know anything about Phoenix and who does not know it's an unstoppable force of nature. But Phoenix Saga is a thing, so.
>>82025634
Old Scott, in a situation where there are only 200 mutants left, would have done the same thing but just not so heavy handedly.
>>82022334
Yes, if it will explain how, after he was fused with Apocalypse, he never really came back, was still possessed by the big A, hence the big change in his character.
The Phoenix further morphed this Apocacyclops until real Cyclops is separated from Apocacyclops and now there's 3 Cyclops running around.
At first no one believes in him and he has a hard time rallying people to his side, but in the end he unites mutants and humans against some threat, vanquishes Apocacyke and is restored as the one true Cyclops.
Basically, I want Cyclops: Rebirth.
Cyke is a hero, god damn it. He's to the X-Men what Superman and Cap are to the JLA and the Avengers, that should have never changed.
>>82025635
> that's some beta shit right there.
That's basic understanding of the character and his core motivations.
>>82025498
The Phoenix was coming to do that no matter what. He was coming for Hope, who Cyclops had been breaching would be their savior since the moment she was born, entrusting his son to raise her in The Future as he had done with Nathan so many years ago. Scott never shying away from sacrifice for the good of mutantkind.
Everything was going perfectly according to plan. They were training Hope, getting her ready to become the Phoenix and reignite the mutant genes. Then Captain America and Iron man went "wait, what the fuck is this "phoenix" shit. A big fire bird is coming out way? That sounds like something we should take care of." and proceeded to ask WOLVERINE what the hot shit was going on. Wolverine then proceeded to tell them, because of his massive fucking hypocritical bitterness, "Oh yeah, this is all Cyclops' fault. We need to go kill Mutant Jesus as a fuck you to Cyclops."
And then to make matters worse, Tony shoots the Phoenix with a big fucking cosmic gun which causes it to enter the Phoenix 5 against their will. Which all still would have worked out fine, until the Avengers decided to antagonize them, and continually make matters worse and escalate the situation until they finally pushed the whole thing on Scott and made him go Dark Phoenix.
And then when all is said and done, guess what? The Phoenix DID go to Hope and help her reignite the x-gene fucking exactly how Scott was preaching since Messiah Complex.
In other words, Cyclops wasRIGHT
>>82025786
Phoenix Egg without trip. And you idiots keep biting.
>>82025753
Storm does the same exact thing. Except now they are in hell.
>limbo
It's not fucking Earth.
>>82025634
Why would he do that? His wife and daughter both controlled the phoenix for years with mostly no ill effects. Hope was personally raised by his own son, who himself learned the ways of the Askani. The phoenix itself took a physical form that loved Scott.
There is no one in the universe who is better suited to make the hard calls on a phoenix-related situation than Scott Summers.
>>82025855
>Why would he do that? His wife and daughter both controlled the phoenix for years with mostly no ill effects
Because forcing a life of hardship and deformity on people who are minding there own business and have no part of this is wrong?
That's the thing. Forcing mutation is as wrong as forcing a cure. Old Scott would know that and wouldn't do that for his own ego.
Fuck is was the plot of the first X-men movie, Scott would never force mutation because he knows people would suffer and he wouldn't be able to take in or go to the ones who get mutated.
>>82025763
Nah he was still old school heroic Cyclops for the two stories or thereabouts between the Twelve and Morrison.
Morrison just went post modern and jaded the hell out of everybody when he took over.
>>82025763
Identity Crisis on Infinite Cyclops sounds stupid. Even though Marvel is desperate at painting "goody two-shoes" Cyke as villain, they are really really bad at it, that's how much of a hero he is.
>>82025520
I hate these fucking edit pics.
I have seen the one were the added panels are a sex scene and TweenJean screaming about age-appropriate...
Cyclops did the Rightclops thing in the comic: THAT'S CYCLOPS.
The porn scene and upset TweenJean panels were from a later Emma interaction: THAT'S EMMA.
When you confuse the characters and their personalities in these stupid meme-trolls it leaves people mis-informed and unprepared for what story twists have been set up for years now.
You should be ashamed to even post on /co/.
>>82026008
funny, i feel the same way about beast.
>>82025941
>Because forcing a life of hardship and deformity on people who are minding there own business and have no part of this is wrong?
It's repopulating versus giving up and going extinct.
>>82026039
No, Marvel is really REALLY bad at making Beast a hero.
Scott Summers died for our sins
>>82026070
here's another thing that pisses me off
beast, the fucking geneticist, has been studying mutants and shit, but here comes an antagonistic cyclops attracting negative attention with forcing solutions on people when the mutants should have been starting families and breeding years ago.
Post Apocalypse Scott Only,
Imagine if Movie Scott goes Phoenix Phorce with En Sabah Nur harnessing his Punch energy. Basically Post Phoenix Scott is an outlaw so Post Apacalypse Scott could be outlaw too.
Too bad Cyclops can't be plaid by Fasbender.
How about Magneto with eye beams?
>>82026103
i really think it's just everyone choosing to hate him. any time i see people trashing him it's like when the little punks in lord of the flies pushed a boulder and killed piggy.
people always leave out the context that beast was dying, and when he called for help from other super heroes, he got no answer.
when the younger O5 were used to show cyclops, everyone was just fine with them staying which was stupid.
plenty of other time travel incursions have happened that weren't used by marvel to sell comics but hey, let's blame the character that's more intelligent than his peers who have the gall to talk down to HIM of all people like he didn't understand the situation. he was taken for granted by the team because he's being taken for granted by the publisher.
>>82026070
>It's repopulating versus giving up and going extinct.
No it's not. Not even a little. It's destroying people's lives. Little Suzy Slug girl had her whole life ruined because Cyclops decided he wanted to be the superior race. So didn't THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of innocent people who just wanted to lead quite lives.
They weren't naturally mutated like the X-men where, they where minding their own business when Cyclops decided on his own that they where a race and fuck everyone else.
The X-men where all to happy to let humanity phase out but as soon as they weren't THE SPECIAL NEXT STEP IN EVOLUTION any more he had a bitch fit and ruined thousand of people's lives.
and how many did he take responsibility for? Gold balls? Time Gal?
>>82026132
type A personality masturbatory session, right here folks.
>>82025763
Do you have any idea how many superheroes have been possessed by evil psychic entities?
Hell, there's a bunch of one-trick villians who have that as their one-trick.
And (Phoenix-bless-'em) Scott's one of the few characters to have gotten psychological therapy for it, like everyone else should.
Are. There. New. Mutants?
>>82025796
How the Avengers just finding out about Phoenix? Wolverine wanting to kill her arguably makes sense bc Jean precedent but they don't make it work.
>>82026214
So, Little Suzy Slug Girl would prefer to die and take whole world with her?
Decision to bring mutants back in the end was Hope's so that she could be released from Phoenix's destructive power.
>>82026028
what scene is the porn one from? i remember the issue where emma showed teen jean the affair but i didnt think it had scott and jean smashing in it. Or am i remembering that wrong?
Here we have an entire story dedicated to Beast, trying, grasping to save mutants, aching for his and his friends' survival.
He is not on the cover. He is pushed to the side/exempt because he is selfless. His life is only important to him because of the importance of his life in relation to helping the others.
That is why Beast is a hero. The other characters do not understand his motivations, the psychics don't grasp his mind because psychic ability does not equate to intelligence.
>>82026214
No more evolution is about more that "no more mutants", the next step that mutants represent isn't all Beak, most of it's headed toward Jean Grey. Haven't you noticed?
And undoing someone else playing God isn't proactively playing God yourself.
Learn what prompted the situation you've been so quick to call "natural" before you vilify those who try to restore the natural order.
And there's absolutely nothing wrong with "SuzieSlugGirl" existing beyond how horrible people like you try to make her life.
>>82022913
that's a given
>>82026473
>Beast, trying, grasping to save mutants, aching for his and his friends' survival.
And Cyke beat him to it and now he is mad.
>>82026557
oh, JUST cyclops, huh? can't possibly be how everyone hates him because it's the trendy thing to do right now? basically everyone turned against him and storm couldn't even remember why.
"this issue took so long to come out i can't even remember why we're mad at you"
>>82026362
It was like the very next issue or maybe two later in Uncanny, the one where Emma starts training TweenJean in her powers.
They start off fighting(thus the Jean-offending pics) and end up (scary) friends by the end.
Poor Tyke, surrounded by psychic women who Rightclops has f**ked...
>>82026684
>f**ked...
Why the fuck did you censor yourself?
>>82026667
Yeah, Marvel is trying its hardest, but every time someone becomes new leader of X-men they just follow Cyclops's lead. Storm even has secret talks with Wolverine to assassinate people she doesn't like.
>>82026516
The point of the Xavier/Jean Grey school is to help those people
>>82026732
because cyclops is a flat character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_tLWMm0Fo
>>82026667
Storm's been butting heads with Scott ever since he came back from X-Factor and immediately tried to take over the X-Men team despite having lost the rights to Storm in that crazy-fixed-against-her combat.
Also because she's crazy and thinks she's a goddess.
>>82026139
"No more mutants" stopped Mutants from breeding.
>>82026361
>Decision to bring mutants back in the end was Hope's so that she could be released from Phoenix's destructive power.
Cyclops was gunning for the exact same thing.
>>82026516
>And undoing someone else playing God isn't proactively playing God yourself.
Yes it is. It most certainly is. Breaking and entering into the house of someone who broke into yours is still a crime.
It's not any mortals to make that decision and Cyclops in the past would have fought tooth and nail to protect those lives that would have been disrupted even if the one above fucking all was the guy who tried to force it.
It's about doing the right thing and protecting people, not just the ones who have the same gene switched on as you do.
>>82026802
i don't remember anything about them all becoming sterile.
>>82022453
You mean Cyclops and the X-Force
Everything about his character seems to be going toward leading a black ops team
Cable is cool but I'd rather see RIGHTCLOPS lead some MEN to victory
Maybe bring Hope back, I'm not sure if she doing anything now
>>82026819
And Cyclops was right.
>>82026834
Then you just have a shitty memory.
>>82026842
Hope is now that character that lost any relevance.
>>82026842
>>82026848
this isn't g.i. joe and the cold war is over.
>>82026819
>cyclops in the past would've fought tooth and nail to ensure mutantkind extinction.
>>82026733
>The point of the Xavier/Jean Grey school is to help those people
Because the fucking crab kid in fucking Cambodia is not only going to KNOW about that school but be able to get there on his own.
The school only helps the kids lucky enough to live close enough to know of the school or the one random ass mutant the x-men MIGHT find on a mission.
Unless they're prepared to take responsibility for EVERY mutant they have no business FORCING mutation
It is literally impossible for the x-men to help all of them, They can't even help most of them. Id be surprised if they can even get HALF of them.
Hell the amount of mutants SAVED by that school is literally in the negatives.
>>82026917
So you don't actually know anything about the X-men huh?
>>82026906
Very few people actually died when they lost there powers. Some but very few. He wouldn't have destroyed lived just to force his race onto people.
>>82026873
okay so you asserted something, that mutants can't breed. please provide proof.
if you read endangered species, beast notes that the small number of mutants left after house of m did not represent enough genetic variability to provide a viable future.
so please, prove me wrong.
>>82026949
Im sorry I didn't realize the schools student count was in the tens of thousands
>>82026802
Not from BREEDING, they still kept humping like bunnies on X'.
No more mutants were being BORN. Presumbly either from random X-gene mutation in human parentage or from dirty freaky mutie sex.
>>82026917
if only they had some way to locate mutants and some form of transport to get around the world.
>Unless they're prepared to take responsibility for EVERY mutant
It's almost like that pressure on a character, who always has been hard on themself, would be interesting to read
>>82026718
I self-censored because that's what Rightclops would do.
>>82026819
What a terrible analogy. You're trying to spin this as a two wrongs don't make a right but No more mutants was a mistake that needed to be corrected.
>>82027011
Having sex is not the same thing as breeding.
>>82026733
Yeah... Wolverine and Storm really helped the kids who were suffering from being mutants.
You know, like the New X-Men. You know the kids who had been putting their lives on the line, lost friends, family and limbs, probably were suffering from PTSD and whose lives were in absolute ruins. All because of the crime of being mutants.
It's not like they focused on new kids who had less baggage then those poor kids and to be honest didn't deserve to be saved at all.
>>82027059
>if only they had some way to locate mutants and some form of transport to get around the world.
There's also the issue of having
enough teachers to look after them
enough space to house
enough food to feed them
enough people to reach them in time
Do you just not the math and resource issues involved here
It is literally impossible to save even a small percentage of them. He was barely able to protect some 200.
Why is there this assumption that being born a mutant and not being born a human is somehow an intollerable burden?
>>82026990
>prove me wrong
You're wrong. I don't really need to prove it because I know you're wrong and everyone knows it too.
>>82027173
Because Morrison introduced the idea that freakish and useless mutations were the norm when the opposite was actually true.
>>82027091
Truthy, but by definition breeding is the act of attempting (even if only instinctually) to procreate regardless of actually completing the procreation.
>>82027196
I sure as hell know it.
>>82026957
>very few
Whole realities got fucked up, flying mutants were dropping from the sky and mutants who ise to be able to breathe inderwater drowned. Mutants who could function with their unique physiology found that they no longer could and mutants who could normally protect themselves became incredibly vulnerable.
>>82027173
All I want is one legitimate reason why we need mutants at all?
I don't mean in a KILL ALL MUTIE SCUMM sense but why is so wrong that no more mutants are going to be born?
Because it pisses off a giant space bird who by all logic shouldn't even give a fuck at all? Yes we should protect the people who have done nothing but be born with powers but there's nothing wrong with no more mutants being born.
>>82026214
Mutants were never natural. They're a result of ancient Celestial genetic experimentation. If mutants cease to exist, which is specifically what M-Day was leading to since no more mutants could be born, the Celestials would have deemed the experiment a failure and started over, wiping the slate clean.
That slate is the Earth. The end of mutants means the end of all life on the planet. "Forcing" mutation on more people is the only way to make sure that the entire human race doesn't go extinct.
Cyclops knows that, and he was 100% in the right to do what he did.
>>82027307
Because then they would be no X-men and honestly what are even the benefits of getting rid of mutants? You might as well get rid of all cosmic stuff and leave only titles about the avengers Marvel.
>>82027229
Freakish, yes, but useless super-abilities don't exist (by definition) and all mutants have mutant abilities of some kind.
>>82025941
>Because forcing a life of hardship and deformity on people who are minding there own business and have no part of this is wrong?
Most mutations are not deformities, but rather powers, don't forget
>That's the thing. Forcing mutation is as wrong as forcing a cure. Old Scott would know that and wouldn't do that for his own ego.
All those people that got back to becoming mutants were the people who were removed from mutanthood by the Scarlet Witch. What happened was not forcing mutation, but writing a wrongdoing
>>82027390
I think you're responding to bait.
Who asks that question when they're posting on a Cyclops fanthread? Honestly?
>>82027441
*righting
I'm tired right now, sorry
>>82027441
>Most mutations are not deformities, but rather powers, don't forget
Powers that are often dangerous and or unwanted.
>All those people that got back to becoming mutants were the people who were removed from mutanthood by the Scarlet Witch. What happened was not forcing mutation, but writing a wrongdoing
Says who? Certainly not the people who got mutated.
This is the problem with the X-men. Some 100 people in their mansion decide HUR DUR MUTATION IS A GIFT AND WE'RE A RACE and the rest of the thousands if not millions of mutants don't get so much as a say in the matter.
There wasn't a vote. The X-men just decided this shit on their own.
>>82027523
Mutants are a race. That's canon to 616 motherfucka and what about When Scarlet witch took away the mutant of the guy who could cured cancer or the little girl whose mutation was eating away pollution?
>>82027561
>Mutants are a race.
yeah and I guess people with blond hair are a race now too.
>When Scarlet witch took away the mutant of the guy who could cured cancer
He actually kept his powers. The X-men put him on a kill squad.
>>82027523
>says who
Says the universe you idiot. The Phoenix is literally a force of nature and if it's coming towards earth to restart the mutant gene than obviously mutants are part of a grand design.
>>82027668
Which is a new thing. And stupid.
>>82027523
Hypocrite, stop posting.
You're complaining because the actions of The Scarlett Witch were undone BY A MUTANT and you argue that a mutant shouldn't be allowed to make such a decision.
You're a troll, an idiot, or not /co/ at all.
I don't care which, just stop.
>>82027523
listen to this faggot who doesn't want superpowers
what the fuck are you even doing here
>>82027731
Fucking up an X-Men thread to feel like a big boy.
He's well past the point when we should be reporting his trolling.
>>82027709
>You're complaining because the actions of The Scarlett Witch were undone BY A MUTANT and you argue that a mutant shouldn't be allowed to make such a decision.
>wah wah wah someone did something bad so that makes it okay to do bad things back
>muh rightclops wah wah
>and you argue that a mutant shouldn't be allowed to make such a decision.
NO ONE should be allowed to make that decision. It's something that effects more than just one person and their beliefs. Thousands shouldn't be put out so Cyclops can feel better about his so called race
>>82027801
I guess we can no longer convicted anyone of a crime cause that would ruin their life, which would be bad.
>>82027801
You're really so fucking stupid that you don't know WHY that's a baseless argument?-?-?-?
Every X-fan on this thread knows why that's self-contradicting.
It's your idiocy that we find so intollerable.
>Cyclops is around
>everyone wants him to die
>Cyclops is dead
>everyone wants him back
what is this phenomenon
>>82027801
Nobody tell anon on how government works or else he might freak the fuck out.
>>82022334
Hmm, Cyclops would make a pretty good Sith.
>>82028006
But he can't turn to the dark side!
He was prophesised to destroy the Sith, not join them!
It's over Annieclops, I have the highground!
(Next thing you know he'll be responsible for his son losing a hand...)
>>82027801
>NO ONE should be allowed to make that decision.
i agree, scarlett witch shouldn't have been allowed to make that decision
which is why rightclops was right to undo it
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck,
What was the last non-troll question?
I think it was regarding the "Storm sucks, Cyke rules" issue?
>>82027296
>i'm a legend in my own mind
of course you know. you're so smart.
>>82025855
Thats why he is righy
>>82023418
It's be interesting if it turned out that the characters who were, at one point, basically the leaders of the two biggest minorities in Marvel, actually rather liked each other.
>>82025677
No, it's Beast's fault that they're there in general. He's the one who grabbed a time machine and brought them to the future.
>>82028783
But as much as he knew the Phoenix and it's Jean, he still didn't understand his own issues and dark side - that's how he was corrupted into becoming a Dark Phoenix.
He (of all people) wasn't in control of himself or understand himself, and because of that the power drove him insane.
In the end it had nothing to do with understanding the Phoenix force.
>>82028909
It wasn't just that, that sort of time-travel shenanigan has been done before, it's that he took them from his own history:
He customized his personal time machine to do just that, other time travellers go to alternate timelines and parallel universes, create self-sealing chronal anomalies, etc, Dr.Doom's time platform has a feature that prevents anything close to, or interacting with the machine from altering the timeline that created the machine itself...
This had to be forced to happen.
Beast overlooked the paradox issue.
Or ignored it in an act of insane arrogance.
He thought everything would play out as he expected because he thought he was so smart that nothing could deviate from his expectations.
All because he wanted that extra bit of authenticity.
Scott is the Mr. Fantastic to the FF. The X-Men are a family unit as much as they are a military unit. You can't really just have a solo on Mr. Fantastic, you need to put him against the backdrop that is the rest of mutantkind.
>>82029197
regale us as to how bishop, cable, and kang created "self-sealing chronal anomalies"
>beast overlooked the paradox issue
how is it a paradox? everyone said "hey that's okay, let them stay" then got mad at beast knowing that it was taking what they thought as a mistake and making it worse.
but hey, think of the comic books that were sold so we can talk about how iceman is gay! that must be beast's fault too, right?
>>82028990
It's so "Scott" that he's saying that he feels like laughing... and he has a frown on his face.
>>82022334
it might work if it gave him something to be correct about and a bunch of people who are wrong and hate him for being correct
>>82023604
>>82025340
more like captain america if everyone hated him
>>82022406
>Hence why the X-men franchise always spins out of control when Scott gets written out, like in the aftermath of The Twelve and right now.
this actually makes me want a rightclops ongoing
because the x men can be going completely to shit without daddy rightclops around to keep everything together while everybody cries about him
meanwhile rightclops is off being correct about shit and making people hate him and punching people with punchbeams and not giving any fucks
>>82029449
he can only be spacefaring with his dad but not his brother
because he's a flat character
>>82029570
in AoA he was literally the same person.
because he's a flat character.
>>82029664
wrongverine itt
>>82022334
a solo ongoing no, Scott has boring powers and design, he needs other characters to play off of.
His role is leader of the X-Men that's what he should be.
why do people keep talking like having a solo book means zero supporting cast?
>>82029688
i don't disagree. wolverine was exactly the same too.
>>82029691
fucking fuck, anons. you're the reason cyclops is shit.
>cyclops has no depth and can serve only one function. there is no perspective outside a single role taken by this character and any changes will break everything. oh great fuhrer summers
you have no fucking imagination.
>>82027257
No, by definition breeding is the process of reproduction, not the process of sexual intercourse. Which is why it's also applied to plants.
>>82029795
because Cyclops being a wishy washy villain for the last 5 years has worked out great for everyone involved
>>82029691
>I don't read X-men
There's a very solid reason as to why Cyclops kept coming back as leader of X-men every goddamn time they tried to replace him and he becomes only increasingly relevant.
>>82022334
With every fiber of my being, yes.
>there are people on /co/ RIGHT NOW that don't realise Cyclops was Right
If Marvel doesn't really want him, why not put him with other X-men nobody wants and let him lead that as an X-Force team or whatever?
>>82027307
The Celestials would have wiped the Earth clean?
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>>82027898
I bet you fuckers think Superman is boring and the Batman should kill the Joker. Stay out of positions of power, your moral compasses are fucked.
>>82022455
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>>82023418
>See No Evil Speak No Evil
>>82034259
And those people are now baiting away in this thread XD
Stop feeding the Logan/Maddie/Storm fans
