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Let's be honest, Brian's done a lot of scummy shit
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Let's be honest, Brian's done a lot of scummy shit before, but what was him at his ABSOLUTE worst?

Opening thread with high contender
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>>81986807
What's with those teeth? Haven't watched FG in a while so i have no idea.
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>>81986807
When he gave stewie herpies.
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>>81986807
You read my fucking mind. I just watched this and realized that this is definitely the most unbearable he's ever been.
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The herpes episode or "Brian writes a best-seller"
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Daring to imply that Christianity isn't real.
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How about when he fucked Quagmire's love of his life, just to piss him off
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>>81986933

He lost all his teeth and got some new implants that made him look like a realtor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGepCW3WaFo
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>>81986976
>Brian writes a best seller
God the last ten minutes of that were glorious
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>>81986807
>>81986976
These two are him at his worst, specifically the herpes in the second post

Brian Writes a Best Seller, like any shitty Brian episode, is redeemed if he gets BTFO at the end. There isn't any BTFO whatsoever in the herpes or real estate episodes
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If it were Peter doing these things none of you would have an issue with it
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>>81987029
I've never understood the brutality in FG, do people find it funny?
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>>81987029
Dude I hate this show
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>>81987029
>Peter and Brian fighting over a dog's chewing rope

Oh that's funny, kinda reminds me of the early episodes where they were more of a du-

>everything else

Do people actually enjoy this? Like not in a "mean spirited Dx" sort of complaining, just, there was no joke. and it ended in ugly ass gore.

Why?
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>>81987141
I've had a problem with Peter for 10 years. It's just different from what I hate about Brian.
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>>81987141
Peter is even a pedophile these days. Brian is annoying, Peter is outright evil.
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>>81987141
Peter doesn't have the same unbearable hypocrisy as Brian
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>>81986807
Get out of here, Fox producer.

Your show is shit.
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>4chan complains about family Guy
>Even though the humor here is the same
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>>81987905
Maybe if 4chan was entirely 2007 era /b/.
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>>81986807

That time Brian raped another dog of sentient intelligence.
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>>81987905
I hadn't realized 4chan was all about 80s references and 4th wall breaking non-jokes.
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>>81986807
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>>81986807

I stopped giving a shit about Family Guy in 2011, please inform me on the plot of this episode
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Brian at his lowest, scummiest was when he wrote the self help book. Even after he is humiliated on national television on The Bill Mahr show by both Bill Mahr and Arriana Huffington, he still can't admit that he was wrong about anything, even when he's trying to make amends with Stewie. At least Stewie had the wear with all to be honest with him and tell him that he couldn't write for shit. Unfortunately, Brian never learns his lesson. This is most definitely Brian at his utmost douchiness.
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>>81987100
>No BTFO in the real estate episodes
Didn't he get decked hard from Quagmire and fired?
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>>81989101
Yep, Quagmire knocks all his teeth out and busts his nose. Brian then goes home and the whole family proceeds to verbally dunk on him about what a dumb ass he is until the end of the episode.
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>>81987028
That was great because Quagmire is just as shitty as he is.
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>>81987029
Well that was unpleasant
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remember when brian use to be the funny straight man of the family, instead of being one of the most unlikable characters on the show? I remember, it was pretty great
for real, how did they ruin brian, he was like, my favorite character in the show
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>>81990402
Horse nose or smug man?
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>>81990560
He went from straight man dog to obnoxious author's pet to equally obnoxious punching bag since Quagmire's the author's pet now.
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>>81990560
Flandersization
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>my name is brian
>girls always "hahaha just like brian from family guy!"
I mean I can roll with it but still, how does this not register with people as an insult?
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>>81990560
Seth realized everyone saw through his shitty self-insert so he made him a punching bag like Meg so he could be like "SEE! BRIAN'S NOT ALWAYS RIGHT AND MY SELF-INSERT! LOOK AT HIM GETTING LAID INTO BY QUAGMIRE!"
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>>81987502
Something being mean-spirited is a valid complaint, no matter how badly /co/ wants to force that meemee. Especially when it's a detriment to the purpose of the show. You know what I love in my laugh-a-minute comedies? A family who constantly abuses and spites one another in increasingly disgusting ways.
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>>81991104
Maybe they were actually trying to insult you
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>>81991297
Hi, Mr.Enter!
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>>81988841

Brian violently loses all his teeth

Quigmire sees him crying in a bar about it and even though he hates him takes pity on him an tells him to see his dental guy

Brian gets brand new fake teeth that apparently make him look like a real estate agent

He's really good at the job but there's the one hellish property that no one can sell that he takes the challenge to sell it

Sells it to Quagmire even though he helped him

Hides for some 3 day grace period. Quagmire finds him on the 11th hour hour but brian runs the clock so 3 days pass then quagmire gets pissed and knocks him in the face with something (lamp?) and he loses all his teeth again and everyone calls him out for being the d-bag he is
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>>81987029
Goddamn i hate the gore in this show.

I miss when the violence was like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YggNHQwE1EI
Notice here, theres no blood.
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>>81991575
Reminds me of one of the early episodes. The one with the mafia. That guy Peter had to take out for a night on the town gets shot to shit by a machinegun, but there was zero blood.

I blame the Patriots episode. That was the first episode with actual gore. Except it was actually pretty funny because at the time it was so shocking and unexpected. The show had never gone that far by that point in terms of sudden gratuitous violence. It was actually hilarious.

But then they took the wrong lesson from it. They decided "Violence equals comedy" instead of "Shocking the audience and breaking expectations is funny"

And so now its not funny anymore. Its just excessive.
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>>81991575
>the budget-cut version of Peter looks exactly like current Peter

Jesus.
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>>81991575
Holy shit. Actual jokes. I forgot this show used to have that.

(also dang not having gore just made that fight seem funnier to be honest, especially with Meg and Chris randomly pulling wrestling moves on each other)
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>>81988596
What episode?
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>>81991824
Remember when the random cutaways were actually funny, and not a detraction to the show?
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>>81991157
Seth doesn't write FG anymore brah.
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>>81991575
This used to be my favorite scene in the show. I miss it.
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>>81987012

It's not so much that as it was that Meg had finally found some degree of happiness in religion, and Brian destroyed that happiness by saying "There is no God because you're UGLY"

Even though Brian had talked with Jesus himself at least once.

That was pretty much it for me. There's only so much shitting on Meg I could take. I stopped watching it after that.
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>>81993878

>Brian destroyed that happiness by saying "There is no God because you're UGLY"

Wouldn't that mean there's no Seth MacFarlane?
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>>81987157
It's a show for teenagers, what do you expect? You used to find it funny when you were a teenager
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>>81993878

I think the episodes with Jesus were after that episode
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>>81994370
Shieet

Did Seth ever appear in FG as a character?
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>>81987029
Now I get what Mysterious Mr. Autism means when he says mean spirited.
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>human women fuck Brian all the time
>if they had human men fucking a talking female dog that would be gross
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>>81994482
Teenagers watch anime, not Family Guy.

Adults watch old cartoons from 1928-1969, you are lucky to find anyone that will touch the first 2 seasons of Ren & Stimpy.
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>>81991561
I'm missing the part where looking like a realtor makes you a realtor. And what the fuck does a realtor look like? Does Seth MacFarlane just write his personal in-jokes into the show without bothering to explain them?
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>>81991866
And now ladies and gentlemen Conway Twitty
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>>81991866
>Am I...am I supposed to draw the penis?
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>>81994641
When did that become a meme complaitn anyway?
Are people just incapable of comprehending others disliking the tone of a work?
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>>81991575
For some reason I like mutual domestic violence. Nothing funny about a husband beating a wife or vice versa, but a lot funny about a husband and wife, on equal footing, beating the shit out of eachother. And fucking hardcore at the end of it.
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>>81991561
Wow, a show where every character is the worst, most unlikable character. No wonder this kills in the ratings
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>Is Brian at his worst in the realtor episode?

>Peter straight runs over a child with his car in the first five minutes of the episode, besides the fact that he's the one who causes Brian's horrific accident
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Dates a hot looking blind girl. Coughs loudly to cover-up the shutter sound on his phone camera as he takes snapshots of her flashing her tits. (Come to think of it... i'd probably do the same).
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>>81997574
Why not just turn the sound off?
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>>81997574
And don't forget that he tried to meet up with her again just by using a different voice.
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>>81986807
>season 13
>there are at least 13 seasons of family guy

What
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>>81987029
>Peter willing to hurt Brian over a chew rope

And he's still better than current Homer Simpson
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>>81996523

he doesnt write the shows anymore, he just voices the characters. he hasnt been involved in the show in a while
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>>81996941
I think it's just because he uses that excuse to call a show bad without going into any real critical detail. No talk of tone or context, just "these characters are assholes and I don't like it one bit." Like I'm pretty sure he'd hate It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia for that reason even though it's the point of the show and is consistent with itself.
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>>81991889
>>81996523
>>81997894
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>>81996077
Wtf are you on? Do you really believe this?
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>>81995939
That would be great. I was wondering what it would be like if Brian had a female cousin who always tried to poach Peter's friends.
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>>81986944
This
Like what the fuck brain
And it's weird how stewie just forgave him for that.
The magic of 22 minutes restriction
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I actually liked the real estate salesman Brian episode. Quagmire literally tells him he is only helping him because he hates his guts and doesn't want him in his bar weeping. Brian literally doesn't owe him shit, Quagmire never demands the money back, Brian gives it to him willingly.

Then he uses Quagmire's own ego against him to rip him off and sell him a shitty condo. No one deserves it more than the admitted rapist.

Brain the author is a better example because he isn't forced into the situation he finds himself in, it just happens.
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>>81998497
But then in that case it comes crashing down because Quagmire just beats him up again, firmly establishing him as the new writer's pet that can do no wrong.
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>>81991575
This is probably one of my favorite moments in the series.
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>>81991889
>>81997894
>Voices half the cast
>Not involved in the show
I mean, I can see he just has everyone else write the plots and shit but I'm certain there were certain times where he disagreed with some of the scripts and jokes he was given.
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>>81990560
>remember when brian use to be the funny straight man
>how did they ruin brian

That's the inevitable path of all "voice of reason" characters.

When they're characterization boils down to "is always sensible and correct about everything", then the writers cannot resist the urge to make the "voice of reason" character their personal mouthpiece.

Because if that character is always right, and that character expresses the opinions of the writers, then that must mean the writer is always right.
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>>81994634
>Did Seth ever appear in FG as a character?

Yes, except they called him "Brian".
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>>81991575
My God. So that's why Family guy looks so stiff and lifeless today. All because Peter put down the network.
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>>81991575

That budget joke at the end is still one of the greatest jokes in early Family Guy. How did they mess the show up so much?
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>>81999517
Wait the budget joke wasn't just a joke?
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the episode where he tries to go out with Stewie's neglectful teacher and then once he finds out she's already seeing someone, he calls the police on her and acts high and mighty about it.

That really rustled my jimmies
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>>81991889
He still has to approve the scripts they send him.
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>>81991104
try being a Griffin
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>>82000036
The majority of Family Guy's budget goes towards licensing and celebrity voice actors. The change in art is just "well i'd rather spend money on a Conway Twitty joke than any animation whatsoever."
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Brian's Play. Where he shits on Stewie's incredibly moving play because he's jealous that his own play is terrible, and then in the end he convinces Stewie that he should just wait until Brian is dead to showcase his talents.
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>>81987157
It's not funny it's just "COOL A CARTOON THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS BLOOD NOT LIKE THE POLITICALLY CORRECT STUFF AND CENSORED ANIME I SAW AS A KID"
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>>81997949
You're right. During his Drawn Together movie review half of his complaints were him going "HA HA IT'S FUNNY BECUASE INSERT BELITTLING OVER SIMPLIFICATION OF THE JOKE HERE"
The Drawn Together Movie is far from a comedy master piece but he said this with literally every joke, he didn't need to say that for 40 minutes he could of just said
>The Drawn Together Movie has a lot of obscene humour and I don't like it
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>>81998561
Who will they turn into the new pet when people inevitably get sick of Quagmire?
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>>81996077
Family Guy is for the 14-35 male audience you nitwit. About maybe 15% of teens tops watch anime
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>>81986807
No he has done worse. In a recent episode he kissed Bonnie and they eventually run away together. Shit falls apart for them and Joe comes to take her back.

Brian ends up getting shot in the foot by Joe in the end, so the episode wasn't all bad.
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>>81999354
Yep, happened with the horse show as well. The straight man character has now become the snarky asshole character that constantly raises its eyebrow in disbelief at things the other characters say or do.
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>>81987905
Ya, on /b/ 10 years ago
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>>81990560
Dry humour straight man > Annoying liberal Mary Sue > A pathetic fuck up who fucks over all his friends and even they all openingly hate Brian now bar Stewie
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>>81996941
I think "mean-spirited" is more about a lack of levity in a situation or comeuppance for certain characters. Though as >>81997949 says, it's better to go into detail about why it's "mean-spirited" rather than just leave it at that.
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>>81997574
If you have the opportunity to take a picture of some tits, you take it.
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>>81986807
the writers have screwed up with brian just look at some of the newer episodes they are basically saying we fucked up and now brian is a complete scumbag
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>>82001044
They really should have just let him die in peace and replace with him with that wacky Italiano dog or whatever he was.
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>>82001210
The writers have been saying that for like 5 years.

They kill off Brian for 2 episodes only for them to retcon him back in because "lol popularity"
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>>81986807
To quote the Family Guy wiki on the worst episode ever:
>[Brian] encourages Stewie to get an abortion. When Stewie ignores him, he tries to induce one.
http://familyguy.wikia.com/wiki/Stewie_Is_Enceinte
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>>81987141
Peter is mentally disabled, he literally does not have the mental capacity to understand that what he is doing is wrong. Wasn't it even official canon in an episode where a doctor diagnosed him as retarded?
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>>82001884
He was never going to stay dead
7 episodes after he died there was an episode with his name in it
it was all for ratings
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>>82002212
This, haven't seen family since. Literally Deviantart the episode
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>>81991297
Being mean-spirited is a valid complaint, only if it's a comedy show with no jokes.
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remember guys this show airs on fox so it would be lucky if it gets canelled
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9eer29iS-Q
I'm gonna leave this here.
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>>81990560
remember when lisa use to be the funny straight man of the family, instead of being one of the most unlikable characters on the show? I remember, it was pretty great
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Fuck the hivemind, Family Guy is the perfect show to stick on and just veg out to.

>Aw man I can't go to jail, they'll razz me good on account of my belly
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>>82002465
>if its a comedy show with no jokes

So Family Guy?
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>>81999395
But if Seth is God as >>81994370 implied
And Seth is Brian as you imply
Then Brian doesn't believe in himself.
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>>81997795
What has current Homer done that's worse than Peter?
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>>82002879
Aren't you a clever motherfucker?
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>>82002945
It's a cartoon show, Autismo.
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>>81991297
"Mean-spirited" and "doesn't respect its characters" aren't complaints in themselves, no. They can be part of a PROPER complaint - such as "This show expects me to care about these characters, but then they keep doing awful things just for the sake of comedy" - but on they're own they're basically meaningless and people will call you an idiot for thinking they add to a discussion.
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>>81997442
The kid part was actually pretty funny, mom.
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>>82000958
What, that's the exact opposite of what happened. Twilight turned from an intelligent and snarky straightman into a boring, normal girl with no flaws outside of being situationally autistic.
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>>81991575
>punches Peter
>he defends by punching back
>you can't hit me

Oy, women. Sure, I wouldn't randomly wallop a girl, but if she hits me I sure as hell am going to hit back the same.
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>>82006877
are you really such a self righteous faggot that you felt the need to tell us this because of a single line?
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>>81996523
Don't know if he's even involved in writing, but I constantly get the feeling that the writers throw in their own stereotypes and in-jokes as if they're common knowledge.
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>>81987706
What did Peter do?
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>>81997442

Whatever Peter did bad in that episode is pretty much beside the point, which is what's the shittiest Brian has been?
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>>82007168
calm down
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>>81996889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og1QRtcWdEY
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>>81994482
>You used to find it funny when you were a teenager

Please don't speak for me. I was never a fan of gore, and the shows increasingly escalated violence was the reason i dropped it as a teen. I prefer the original series that kept that to a minimum.
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>>81991297
Drawn Together has "mean spirited" humour that's fucking hilarious.

The problem with Family Guy isn't that it's mean spirited. It's that there's no actual joke. It's JUST mean spirited.
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>>81996889
That was the moment. That was the moment I dropped Family Guy completely. Few shows have that "deciding moment" but this one did.

I let the first one slide. The second one - when they played the whole damn song - that was it.
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>>81987029
I thought it was funny at first but once they cut to all of that gore at the end was just shit
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>>82011388
He's right though you faggot.
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>>82011866
either that, or it's a bad joke

>>82012505
except he's not
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>>82007168
Found the SJW.
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>>81986807
this shit right here
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>>82002966
fucked Lena Dunham
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>>81991575
They make a cheap animation joke, but do you think they were aware of how Chris seemed to go from a bloody nose, to snot running down his face in the span of a few frames?
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>>81987157

Reminder that unless you boycott all movies and television featuring violence you're a shitposting hypocrit
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>>82012390
i remeber watching that episode and actually forgetin that i was watching family guy

i still watch it though, i watch a lot of shit, hell i still watch BBT
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Do they still do that thing anymore where a character/characters learn something at the end of the episode?
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>>82013742
Yep, all the time.
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>>81986944
>>82000117
>>82000604
These. Also when he leaves Dylan and ignores his phone calls then only accepts him once he realizes he can abuse his relatively small fame. Then when he gets fired he feels guilty and promises to be a good dad only to promptly forget about him again.
>How come he don't want me, man?
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>>82002736
No
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>>82002736

Where is this from?
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>>81991575
holy shit, one of the BEST moments in family guy history
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>family guy.
>Brain
>worthless piece of shit atheist

I fucking jerked off during the episode he got killed.
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>>81999395

That's not answering the question, numbnuts. You know exactly what he meant.
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>>81987012
he literally met Jesus Christ and he still doesn't believe in god, now that is the definition of arrogant
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