>"I'm going to be executive producing the Avengers films with the Russo brothers, which I'm very excited about," Favreau told Digital Spy recently. "I talk to them about it all the time. I've worked both in front of and behind the camera with Marvel and I really love what they're doing right now. It's a really exciting time to be over there. I've seen a rough cut of Civil War and it's fantastic. We're constantly looking for things to do together. And now I'm freed up."
>>81974918
I'm down with that. He can even bro it up onscreen up as Happy again!
>>81974918
>I found avengers mediocre
>I found age of ultron to be dogshit
god fucking dammit, please favreau, just give me that Iron Man 1 feeling again.
why the fuck hasn't any MCU movie made me that happy? I mean IM1 is the only MCU movie that I can watch more than ten times...... and Incredible Hulk actually
Why is everyone so mean to Joss Whedon?
>>81975382
>I mean IM1 is the only MCU movie that I can watch more than ten times...... and Incredible Hulk actually
Those movies were made before Marvel really had any stakes in their cinematic universe.
After if became firmly established, they got really cautious and safe regarding all storytelling decisions.
>>81974918
Disney let there be Iron Man 4 and let Favreau come back to direct it!
>>81975430
Because he posted a tweet supporting Anita.
>>81975465
I love Favreau but no Iron Man 4. please. Let that particular series be done.
>>81975430
Because he's a tumblr SJW pandering feminist shill.
>>81975436
Yes because the most basic Hulk story possible sure wasn't safe.
>>81975430
This pretty much >>81975466
The gators invaded /Co/, which is a shame because it really was a safe space in the toxic entitiy that is 4Chan
>>81975548
He's conservative by SJW standards, which is why he got torn apart.
I remember when he got a shitstorm for saying that writing a strong female character is the same as writing a strong male character, minus the penis.
>>81974918
>leave Marvel after IM2
>make a buck with Disney
>return to Marvel
WEW
>>81975565
I consider myself a gator and I find the Whedon hate obnoxious and overblown.
>>81975430
why should one not? he was the motherfucker that initiated the generic shitfest bonanza. avengers 1 was the first MCU movie to suck ass and everything afterwards was generic to hell and back
>>81975436
pretty much, yeah
>>81975560
it was pretty dark if you ask me. not really a safe kind of movie.... I would've loved to see an IH2 with norton. I just hate that new faggot
>>81975631
Maybe his success with TJB gave him enough clout so that he feels he doesn't have to take shit from Feige anymore.
>>81975560
The scene where he almost Hulks out from a boner probably would never happen if it were made now.
>>81975689
Maybe it's the riddance of Perlmutter that gave him hope?
>>81975764
The "it's an exciting time to be over there" made me think of Perlmutter being gone, kek.
>>81975875
Now they can do what they need without an executive second guessing them.
>>81975685
But MCU's worst movie was made before Avengers. And its second best was made afterward.
>>81975718
The Avengers referenced his suicide attempt, which was cut from the Norton movie for being too dark.
>>81975430
Support for a con artist is consequential.
People actually hate him for what he did to Age of Ultron and promptly abandoning (thank god) the MCU.
>cuts all of Thor's scenes and refuses to release an extended coherent edition
>kills off quicksilver
>creates the slut meme by writing the most forced romance in all of film
>non-quipping characters share quippy dialogue with acceptably quipping characters
>>81976206
>The Avengers referenced his suicide attempt, which was cut from the Norton movie for being too dark.
Dark and adult are two different things. Suicide is, oddly-enough, considered more family-friendly than sex in the US.
>>81976250
>cuts all of Thor's scenes and refuses to release an extended coherent edition
Because that entire subplot was by far the worst part of the movie.
>kills off quicksilver
Literally nothing wrong with this.
>>81976334
Go ahead and call me a mewling quim, Joss.
The reason that subplot sucked is because it didn't make any fucking sense because 4/5ths of it were cut from the film.
>>81974918
I'm allChef'dup for this.
>>81976307
>Dark and adult are two different things
Agreed. Are you saying that not getting boners is more character-defining and important than attempted suicide? Or that bucking taboos is automatically more mature in and of itself?
>>81976250
>hate him for abandoning the MCU
I'm glad he did that and I wish Zack Snyder would follow his lead.
>>81974918
Wasn't he a producer in AoU and Av1, anyway? Wasn't it all part of his contract?
>>81975764
That's what it really is. Perlmutter wanted a by the numbers approach to Marvel films. He wanted a safe, consistent product that he could market to families.
Marvel more or less threw out their directors after first films because they demanded more creative freedom, or in Wright's case before. Thor had a pretty good cast because people wanted to work with Kenneth Branagh. Favereau was told to fuck off, Whedon had to deal with a lot of shit in both Avengers film (including a mandate to make Ultron less scary for the kids) which led to a very flawed, compromised film. I think the only reason Gunn or the Russos got their films were because they were willing to work on the cheap and nobody expected Guardians to succeed, much less blow up the way it did.
Honestly, I think that's what did him in: Ike almost ruined Civil War because he didn't want to pay RDJ and Fiege had to run shuttle diplomacy to get the parties to come to an agreement. The Wright/Ant-Man thing was really bad PR, and Age of Ultron was thoroughly disappointing from what was supposed to be the flagship franchise - Whedon blaming the studio heads and Marvel's shitty think-tank wasn't good either. His leaked comments on female leads, and the continued alienation of the fan base over the FF and X-Men embargoes certainly didn't help. Maybe he tried to fuck with Guardians 2 also, who knows.
What we do know is that Fiege won and by all accounts he's a decent guy. Maybe he'll even get Wright back to do the Ant-Man sequel or some other film.
1/2
>>81976955
It's worth noting that many of the actors cast were done so because they willingly took a low paycheck for the chance to work with a director or wanted the exposure - RDJ's aformentioned spat was because contractually he's owed a ton of money whenever he appears. They had to pay him top dollar because the MCU was only a dream when he signed on and that annoyed the ever living fuck out of Ike. They lowballed actors and replaced them when they refused to renegotiate their contracts - that's why you have Don Cheadle and Mark Ruffalo instead of Terrence Howard and Ed Norton. They also refused to use Norton's ideas for a sequel after promising to do so and claimed "The Avengers demands players who thrive working as part of an ensemble" is bullshit given that Norton's done a ton of ensemble pictures over the last decade.
2/2
>>81976974
Wasn't Norton legitimately a fan of the Hulk too? I'm not going to pretend I know for sure what deals were made behind closed doors but I always got the impression he really wanted to make good Hulk movies.
>>81977565
I don't know, but I do know that I've never heard of Ed Norton being in it for the paycheck. He's a bitch to work with sometimes, but that's because he's passionate about what he does.
Not that I'm an insider or anything.
>>81975430
Cause he's a SJW
>>81975623
that makes sense though
>>81977693
I think the public excuse Marvel went with was that Norton is a control freak who wanted to rewrite the Avengers and Joss Wheddon didn't want him around.
>>81979284
Well Fiege was quoted as refuting Norton's claims about money and creative input with that "ensemble" comment.
Honestly though, any creative involvement could have only improved either Avengers movie dramatically.
>>81976955
Nope sorry,
After reading the Wright's version of Ant-man and then reading Reed's changes, I'm glad that we got Reed's version.
>>81976974
Norton doesn't work by committee, which isn't conducive to how Marvel operates, for better or for worse.
Norton also doesn't care about financial success which is Marvel's bread and butter.
There was a lot of butthurt regarding writing credits in Inredible Hulk between Norton and the screenwriter, the result was Nortons refusal to market the film. Even then the split from Marvel was amicable.
>>81979697
Whay was so bad about it?
>>81975516
IM4 won't happen with Downey as the lead. Maybe as a supporting to Don Cheadle's Rhodey. In the comics Stark retires several times and leaves it to Rhodey to do the job. West Coast Avengers is one of his big runs straight through Secret Wars
>>81979697
I'll take your word for it. I haven't read his script, I just like Wright.
>>81976479
Yea, but alot of the time it's just for show or a check. I doubt he did any serious producing.
>>81980148
Yeah, I'm doubting he will next.
>>81979697
That's the one with evil Hank, right? That would have broken my heart.
>>81977565
He is, so is William Hurt, that's why he signed up to play Thunderbolt Ross, and probably why he was so keen to come back for Civil War.
>>81975565
We are not your colony, Tumblr.
>>81976334
>>kills off quicksilver
>Literally nothing wrong with this.
You're joking, right?
>>81975875
From what I heard Perlmutter was the worst thing about the MCU executives before he got the boot from Disney.
As everyone stated Perlmutter demanded that everything be on the cheap. There was this idiotic formula that he insisted that every film property follow. He didn't believe in the female roles or characters. Ike truly believed that the female actors were just there to draw the male audience in and that was it. That's why he vetoed products of Black Widow, Gamora, Peggy Carter being made.
>>81975685
>avengers 1 was the first MCU movie to suck ass
It was easily better than Thor, Iron Man 2, and The Incredible Hulk
>>81974918
Happy returns.
Considering how bad things are looking for Tony, he could use a friend.
>>81982907
But wasn't he killed?
>>81975631
He stayed for the complete IM trilogy.
Left the producer seat when IM3 wrapped up.
>>81976955
>His leaked comments on female leads,
What?
>>81975764
Likely the reason, yes.
>>81979697
Agreed 100%. We dodged bullets in this case.
>>81983015
His correspondence with Sony was revealed during the leak.
>>81983321
We're talking Perlmutter?
For a moment I thought we were talking Whedon.
>>81982945
No? Jesus Christ dude
>>81982907
>Pepper left him
>Happy returns
>Happy is acting all awkward while Tony and him have drinks
>"You know, Tony there's something I gotta tell you. See after this whole deal with those Avenger guys of yours, Pepper came to me. And we talked, and we talked some more and...you know where this is going, right?"
>>81983503
Only if Tony isn't even mad, but just gives him a very, very, very long look.
>>81975382
>tfw Favreau kicks the cucks out and makes Marvel great again
>>81975565
Tumblr get the fuck outta here
>>81983527
It's doubly hilarious considering it would be the reverse of what happend in the comics.
>>81983386
Yes.
>>81974918
Man everyone wants to work with the Russos now.
>>81975565
>gators
>/Co/
>safe space
>toxic
>4Chan
wew lad
>>81979092
True and I honestly never got the "That female character is written like a man" complaints eitheir.
>>81982064
>>81983595
>responding to obvious bait
How new are you?
>>81975516
If anything there needs to be a Cap 4 movie after Cap 3 was hijacked for Civil War
>>81975560
It was a risk because of the blowback from Ang Lee's Hulk. People were passing on it because of that.
>>81979726
No Wasp, not even a hint
>>81974918
I want him to appear on Daredevil and have a scene with Foggy
>>81976955
>Maybe he'll even get Wright back to do the Ant-Man sequel
Given that Reed is already back on as director, I don't see that happening.
>>81976334
>Because that entire subplot was by far the worst part of the movie.
I was 1000% more invested in Thor's magic jacuzzi vision quest than Green Widow bullshit.
>>81986153
Ok, you win. Second worst.
>>81982309
No.
>>81976431
I'm saying that the US considers anything sex-related more taboo than anything violence related.
>>81974918
the prodigal son returns?
>>81984311
It's honestly a very sexist complaint, usually made by people looking for something to complain about.
>>81975565
I know that's contrarian shitposting, but come on. Are you seriously expecting people will respond to weak ass bait like that? 1/10, I sensibly chuckled.
>>81987319
Well 4 other people had already responded to it before you
>>81979697
damn right
>brought us Microverse, Luis flashbacks
>>81979697
Do you have a link to Wright's script?
I looked it up and all I got were a trillion articles about Joss Whedon's hot opinions about it.
>>81976955
>Maybe he'll even get Wright back to do the Ant-Man sequel
Nobody wants that. Wright was booted for legitimate reasons.
>>81975565
what the heck is a gator?
>>81992153
Fat people's boogeyman
>>81992153
>>81975436
there's nothing about iron man 1 that isn't safe it's just good, and like... fun
>>81975565
the only reason /co/ is shit is because of traffic tremendously increasing here
HAHAHAHA GUYS HAVE YOU SEEN CHEF HAHAHAHA
>>81992476
What's funny? I love that movie.
>>81992476
Yeah, it was good.
>>81992476
>have you seen Chef
>>81975565
>safe space
>Gators
>wanting /co/mblr
I refuse to believe that this isn't bait.
>>81976974
Norton's really hard to work with. He's a near-legendary egotistic asshole.
>>81976974
>They lowballed actors and replaced them when they refused to renegotiate their contracts - that's why you have Don Cheadle and Mark Ruffalo instead of Terrence Howard and Ed Norton.
Norton left for creative reasons (he didn't like Whedon's take on Hulk) and they were right to lowball Howard, there's no reason for him to be the higghest-paid actor of the IM franchise once his 15 minutes of fame were passed.
>>81993246
Terrence "Math Crystals" Howard is a legitimate lunatic who's supposed to be incredibly difficult to work with.
