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Did this explained yet or not?
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Nope
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>>81973541
I don't think they remember it happened or know what Fury said.
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>>81973660
What a bunch of crap.

Lazy fucks cant even come up with bullshit to justify their own bullshit writing in the first place.
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I don't think we're ever going to find out.
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>>81973541
Do you guys realize they already released the original version of this in TPB form where with the intended exchange where you hear what fury said and the response is different.
DO NOT click image if you haven't read the story arc yet though.
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>>81973541
He told him. "Jane foster will be the next thor"
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>>81973541
He told him what Cyclops did to the inhumans
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>>81973541
>"It's your turn to take one for the team"
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>>81973541
"White privilege"
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>>81973541
"Marvel will never be good again"
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>>81977625
wow, that was pretty bad. they didn't have a large pool to pick from, did they?
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>>81973541
he called him a fag.
Which made Thor confront his own latent homosexuality and become unworthy
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Who the fuck writes a major plot point for an ongoing story but never bothers to come up with the magic words that get it all started?

It's been how many years now and they still never bothered to write what Nick said?
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>>81973541
The sad thing is you just know if they had actually thought up anything genuinely profound or shocking for Nick to say they'd have told us what it was already. But because that's not the case we just have to wait until we get an incredibly disappointing reveal that could never live up to the hype they wanted or they just forget about it all together.
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>>81980377
Marvel is secretly hoping you will forget and in a year or two they will quietly sneak Thor back into a book and act as if nothing happened at all and never mention it again.
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"ur a faget"
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>>81973541
They never had anything planned and they're hoping we all forget about it

It's bullshit but for all intents and purposes I guess it doesn't really matter, that Thor died before Secret Wars
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>>81980635
I hope Thor slaps Fury and tells him his little words did nothing.
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>>81980976
Historically Thor is not someone who gets rattled or rages because someone called him something.

And even then the whole hammer not obeying Odin part was the point when the writers declared they never bothered with a Thor book before.
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>>81981075
"The power of Thor will kill Jane Foster."

And it IS killing her. And that's exactly what would make Thor no longer want to be worthy. It's the only answer that could possibly work.
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>>81973541
Thor said something bad about the jews.
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>>81984124
No, this guy >>81983989 is right
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>>81977625
>reading the letters page

No sorry I am not THAT autistic
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They don't care. It was just a gimmick to make Thor more politically correct
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>>81984177
The guy is just guessing like everyone else. Also most of the posts he linked to were jokes posts.
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>>81976003
XD very well meme'd my friend, welcome to /co/mblr
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>>81973541
Unsolicited opinions on Isreal?!?
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>>81983989
>And it IS killing her
No it's literally not
She could get a magical fix it all but she stubbornly refuses to get cured because it's her "battle"

Like, that's terrible writing
There's literally no reason for anyone to slowly suicide themselves simply because they don't want a cure to the disease that kills millions
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>>81984671
I'm sorry, what was that you were completely wrong about?
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>>81973541
Did this ever get explained?
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>>81984940
It was her telling mephisto to leave him alone. That was literally it. It was so anticlimactic everybody except Joe quesada was mad
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>>81984913
It's not killing her, it's reverting the chemotherapy treatments. The CANCER is killing her, and becoming Thor is preventing her from getting better.
They spell this shit out.
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>>81984913
No she has cancer, having cancer is the thing that's killing her
Every time she turns into thor, the chemo gets booted from her system, thus stopping it's efficacy
It's like getting out of your car on the highway to get something out of your trunk, you don't have to risk your life, you just have to pull off at the next next intersection

But she doesn't have to do chemo nor do she have to even have cancer

The reason she still has cancer and the reason she has to keep on doing treatments isn't because she is thor, it's because she refuses to do it any other way
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>>81984913
so gay
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>>81985137
Not him but how does thor's power's work?
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>>81984913

It's not killing in the sense that she's addicted to it, and can't let it be. If you continue reading the comic, you find that she spends all her time being Thor and no longer does chemo.

She literally loves being Thor so much that it's killing her. No time for chemo. She doesn't want to stop to have human medicine because she loves the thrill of being a norse god. Thor offered to have Asgard heal her, but she stubbornly refused. But the moment she got a taste of Thor's mjolnir, she couldn't stop.

It's one reason I don't like this run. She's a hypocrite, and an addict. As an aside why are we pretending she is the first female thor? We already had Thor girl.
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>>81984940
It was Mary Jane telling Mephisto that she knew Peter wouldn't go along with the deal unless she urged him to do it. Yes, it was that dumb. Really, I'm pretty sure JMS had something in mind but then he left and refused to tell Marvel what it was .
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>>81985137
She literally said, "I will not stop being Thor, and it's killing me." How plain does it have to be for you assholes?
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>>81985216
who gives a shit at this point
It basically supes her up with odin force, or actually whatever is powering mjolnir because it doesn't seem to actually be odin because if it was still odin she still wouldn't have been able to fight odin, like how just about every confrontation between thor and odin has gone

basically it imbues her with the power of thor, and that includes a super healthy non-cancer body free of all poisons
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>>81985275
You have GOT to be trolling. Must I literally bring up the pages where she explains what it's doing to her?
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>>81985320
So when she turns back the chemo is gone but why is the cancer still about?
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>>81985275
>She literally said, "I will not stop being Thor, and it's killing me." How plain does it have to be for you assholes?
And she was also offered a magic Asgardian cure for her cancer and refused to take it because she wanted to stick with the chemo.

Jane Foster is retarded or nasty. The stocks hospitals keep for chemo treatments are limited. She was essentially flushing the chemotherapy down the drain, keeping it from being used on a patient that would actually use it.
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>>81985425
probably because cancer is trickier because it's technically still a part of the body
it's dumb, but the whole premise behind the comic is dumb
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>>81985231
>>81985376
Go ahead, it doesn't actually matter. Thor's power, being Thor, is killing her. Exactly how is irrelevant.
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>>81985464

If you're leg is injured, and they tell you can't walk while it heals, do you blame the cane that you use when you don't listen to them and walk anyway?

It's not Thor's power thats killing her. She's just skipping out of chemo cancer treatments because she is having too much fun being Thor.

Shit, it could have been anything really. Jane could have skipped out because she loves eating donuts. Or maybe she skips treatments because she loves dancing. Learn2readingMoarPls.
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>>81985689
>fun being Thor
>using Thor's power
Are you seriously this stupid? If you skip work to play WoW, then WoW got you fired. She's skipping chemo because she likes being Thor. THAT'S HOW HIS POWER IS KILLING HER, YOU COLOSSAL RETARD.
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>>81985454
What an idiot. If she wanted to fight it on her /own/ she wouldn't be using /chemo/ in the first place. That's just shit writing. There is no significant difference between getting chemo and getting a magic cure except that the magic cure is faster and will definitely work. Way to kill yourself by being a stubborn, stupid asshole.
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>>81985791
W R I T I N G

also I would fuck Visser in a purely non-sexual way
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>>81985777
No it isn't, you idiot. If you skip work to play WoW, YOU got yourself fired. Unless you're trying to argue that she's an addict, which would actually be an interesting angle to play.
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>>81985860
I don't care if she's an addict, Thor's power is the reason she's dying, no matter what the mechanics are.
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>>81973541
Martha[\spoiler]
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>>81985777
>WoW got you fired
No, that's not how it works
You can't blame an object just for existing
If you decide to do something, decide to do something despite having work, and decide to do that thing so much you get fired, whatever that thing is isn't to blame
She is the only reason she is dying of cancer, She's dying of cancer because she refuses to not die of cancer and just get better
Even though she'd be able to help more people by magically getting better
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>>81973541
I thought it was him whispering to Mjolnir instead of Thor. That he did something to fuck with the hammer which is why Odin can't control it, only the unworthy can lift it, and the reason behind whatever intelligence has possessed the hammer and caused it to both react to Whor's commands and influence her.
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>>81985931
But she's not dying from being thor
Stop trying to protect your precious headcanon
She's dying from cancer
And she still has cancer because she refuses to take magic drugs that would solve her problems
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>>81973541
Reminds me of this.
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>>81985103
>>81985137
This actually makes a crap load of sense. Chemo actually poisons cells so when they try to reproduce they just die. Cancer cells reproduce a LOT faster so the chemo kills off more cancer cells than normal cells before wearing off. If the power of Thor is undoing the poison in her body then the cancer would be free to grow at a regular pace again.
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>I'll buy you all the mead in Midgard if you pretend not to be able to lift that hammer
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>>81985777

HAHAHA.

R U SERIOUS RIGHT NOW? Ever hear of personal responsibility. If you skip work to play WoW, you only have yourself to blame. WoW didn't "make you" do anything. You chose to skip work you COLOSSAL AUTIST.
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>>81985777
>>81985777
>If you eat McDonalds, its McDonalds that made you fat!
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thor discovered that angela was his sister prior to this, maybe fury told him "you tried to kill your sister" or "you fuck your sister", also he has a baby with the hell queen so "maybe he killed his own son" and finally he could save jane foster but she didn't want a cure only for her over everyone else, so "you could have saved jane foster"
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>>81988115
>also he has a baby with the hell queen so "maybe he killed his own son"
This is not Ultimate Thor.
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>>81985931
Is english not your first language?

There is actually a difference between saying "x is the reason she is y" and "x i indirectly causing y".
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>>81986061
I mean,he is technically right.

Like if i had multiple open wounds and decided i wanted to drive my car instead of seeking medical attention.

Sure i would die of blood loss,but the reason im dead is because i wanted to be a driver.
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This is the dumbest thread on the board, which is appropriate, because it's about the dumbest comic on the market.
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>>81988784
You all seem to be conveniently missing the point. Being Thor is the reason she's choosing not to get better. It's a stupid reason, but it's still the deciding factor in her choice. It would be more accurate to say "being Thor is killing her", but that doesn't change the fact that is what Fury could have told him, and he would be right.
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>>81989015
indeed.
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>>81988862

>81988862

As someone who does correlation and analytics for a living, this is what I have to say.

Cause: You choose to drive despite having multiple open wounds, and refused medical attention.

Effect: You die. (note: the origin of the death "blood-loss" is not the same as the root/responsibility of this argument. it is the effect)

Because of the fact you (the cause) chose not to accept medical treatment for your wounds, the (effect) outcome is death (origin blood-loss).

In this case of Jane Foster, the burden of responsibility in this argument falls to her. Her decision (cause) to continue being pseudo-Thor, and neglecting her human cancer treatment is (effect) having her human body die (origin: cancer).
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>>81985791
I don't think the writers realize how much this undermines her 'struggles'. This just makes me have absolutely zero empathy for her cancer, it completely nullifies any sort of struggle she's going through.

I want to watch the authors going up to a comic book reader with cancer and asking them whether they can relate with Thor, 'her battle' and refusing magical treatment. They'd slap them. It's like they completely forgot people wither away and die from cancer and only read the 'inspirational' survivor books.
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>>81983989
Currently, this is the only acceptable answer for this mess. Yes, the cancer kill her, not the power, but I am sure that in some way they can find a narrative ploy where are the powers to give her the coup de grace.
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>>81983989
I would've said "Thor will kill Jane Foster", but yeah that works too.

I mean if Thor stops being Thor then Thor can't kill Jane. Thor like Jane.
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Fury is black
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>>81993211
I'm proud to have partaken in the original thread where this was spawned.
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>>81973541
no, they already said that even they had no idea what Fury said to Thor.
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>>81986455
Sauce?
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>>81993885
My dad died after a ten year battle with cancer.

At the end I had to carry him up the stairs every night, clean his waste, hold his hand while the tumor in his brain made him hallucinate.

As a matter of fact this arc does leave me a little upset, yes.
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>>81989295

Please tell me this is bait. She's killing herself by being a fucking addict. If you shoot yourself with a gun, do you say the gun killed you when it's you that manipulated the gun?
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>>81996832
Some would say I killed Jane Foster, aka Thor. Thor would definitely tell you I killed her. I look at it from a different standpoint. I look at it from the standpoint that Mjolnir did not kill Thor. Odinson certainly did not kill Thor. Nor did Cancer kill Thor. I truly believe that Thor killed Thor. And she can look in the mirror and know that.

I will certainly take responsibility for any decision I ever made, I never had a problem doing that. Not all of my decisions are accurate, they’re not. But when I make a bad decision, I’m not above saying that I’m sorry and trying to do the best about it that I can. Hopefully the batting average is pretty good, I make more good decisions than I do bad decisions. And as far as killing Thor is concerned, there’s a time honoured tradition in the superhero business, that when someone is leaving that they show the right amount of respect to the legacies that made them who they are - unless, of course, it's 2016, when you're expected to shit all over those legacies and mock them constantly in an attempt to seem more savvy and daring than you really are. I mean you show the proper respect to the people that helped you become who you are today. It was a semi-respected tradition AT THE TIME, and Thor didn’t want to honour that tradition.

That’s something I would have never ever expected from Thor, because up until she picked up the hammer she was known somewhat as a formerly relevant side character in this series. It would have never crossed my mind that Thor would want to act like a sanctimonious martyr with a god complex, even if she was a co-opted god. I know that was Thor’s decision. Thor killed Thor.
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>>81973541
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"Bendis."
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>>81996832
>She's killing herself by being a fucking addict
so being a hero and trying to save people is being a fukcing addict?
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>>81973541
>You aren't diverse enough
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>>81984913
>reminds me of Natalie when she got her head shaved
>true to life adaptation
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>>81983989
but why would that cause Thor to become unworthy?
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>>81983989
I thought it was the cancer doing that
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>>81984913
GO CANCER GO
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>>81985275
You take stupidity to a new level anon
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>>81991389
This page triggers me
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>>81973541
YOU'RE A WHITE MALE
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Fury says "Cyclopes was right"
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>>81993211
I will never not laugh at this. I hope somebody sent it to the writer of that shit show
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>>81988862
You would be a REAL HUMAN BEING AND A REAL HERO
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>>81973541
He said Godkiller was the only good ark in the run
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>>81983989
Wasn't Thor made worthy again when he tried to take on the Beyonders before Secret Wars?
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