What are some of the better crossover events to read? Like, what would you recommend to someone specifically looking for them?
>>81903997
>what would you recommend to someone specifically looking for them?
Re-think your life.
Infinity Gauntlet is probably the most universally celebrated event but /co./ happens to like CoIE more.
>>81904060
>>81903997
The original COIE is fucking great. It's a super dense comic, but it throws together fucking everything and the kitchen sink into it and it contributes well to the huge scope of the event and its ramifications across the DCU.
In the DCU there's also 52, Final Crisis and then Forever Evil that you posted as well.
I'm not as familiar with Marvel's side of things, but the Annihilation Saga I know is really awesome.
Cross over events are so fucking frustrating to read.
The main story happens in like 10 issues, but it's barebones as fuck and has missing plot points.
Want to read the real story?
Pick up 40 more issues for shit characters you don't even like.
Don't care? Well prepare for editor's notes up the ass explaining that if you want to see more, buy X issue.
It's just a way to cross advertise when it should be to tell a grander story.
>>81903997
The new Secret Wars was good, even if Marvel gave up on it and started publishing post-crossover comics before the event was even finished
>>81904110
I read Flashpoint and Forever evil with just the bare issues, and I got it fine. any questions I needed answers to took like, 10 seconds of googling
>>81904100
Is COIE like the above, where it's mostly covered in the main series, or do I have to do a fetch quest? Either way, looking into it
>>81904141
It was okay but the endless wait and filler issue 5 definitely made it much worse
Also the 0 issue was shit and I'm angry they included it in the trade
>>81904064
These are solid.
Infinity War and Crusade sort of petered things out, but they're not terrible. I... honest to god forget how important/well done/interesting the tie ins were.
Chaos War was good, but it was more of a finale for the Hercules run than an event. It just happened to have a few event minis.
The two Johns Green Lantern events were good. Albeit one was just a story in the GL books. The other, Blackest Night, was very well plotted with effective use of tie ins.
Annihilation, Conquest, and War of Kings were all very good with great use of tie ins to tell one huge story.
Secret Invasion was a very lackluster story itself. Almost dick all happened, and most of the tie ins didn't really do much for the main book, BUUUT, it had a lot of kick ass tie in arcs. Hercules and the Earth gods invade Skrull god land? Black Panther fights off the Skrulls? Thor and Beta Ray Bill tag team some Super Skrulls? That entire Captain Britain arc? The X-Men one was fun too. And a few others. None of these mattered at all, but damn if they weren't at least fun reads.
I think because they're the only places to get the whole big story, the Infinity Gauntlet and War of Kings omnibus' are the two most worth getting out there. A lot of the others are just cumbersome, with stuff you can get in easier to handle trades.
>>81904196
>Forever Evil
>ok barebones
Is it though?
I read it that way and it was practically over before it started
Where did the regular Justice League go?
How did the Earth-3 villains come from?
Why is Alexander Luthor so scary?
How did he get his powers?
>>81903997
Standoff
A few plot holes here and there, but as far as events/crossovers go it is one of the best in years and is able to justify every single tie in comic.
>>81904196
>Is COIE like the above, where it's mostly covered in the main series, or do I have to do a fetch quest? Either way, looking into it
COIE is just its own thing, there are no tie-ins to it.
And yeah that anon is overexaggerated how much hunting you need to do for any comic. I think recently Trinity War was pretty bad about it because it was told through Justice League, JLA and JLD alternating around each week.
>>81904238
Half of the action took place in Trinity War, an event that was hyped for two years and then over in two months
>>81904238
>Where did the regular justice league go
They were trapped inside Firestorm
>How did the Earth-3 Villains come from
One of those Multiversal gateways you can buy at Sears
>Why is Alexander Luthor so scary
He kills people, and absorbs their powers
>How did he get his powers
This is one I can't answer.
>>81904141
I'm going to be reading Hickman's Avengers run soonish. I have all the tie ins for Infinity. But none for Secret Wars. Are all of them just goofy Flashpointesque What If's? Or do any of them actually move the plot further, or elaborate and expound on some main plot point?
>>81904238
If you read the Justice League and then the main series together with it, that gives you 99.99% of the story.
>>81904327
There actually were a bunch of tie ins for CoiE. They were just... pretty unimportant all told. The book can be read as a 12 issue series just fine.
>>81904064
>Infinity Gauntlet is probably the most universally celebrated event
>Marvelcasuals actually believe this
>>81904333
No, everything that happened in Trinity War is either invalidated or ignored almost entirely by Forever Evil.
Like >>81904361 says, almost all of Forever Evil is told in the main series, and in JL. Although most of the tie-ins are pretty great too and deserve to be read.
>>81904361
So like Justice league #?? -> Forever Evil 1 -> Justice Leage ?? and so on?
>>81904340
The only ones that add to the plot are Shield and Thors, but you should check out as many as you think look fun
Most of them are direct sequels to events, seems like you'd enjoy that
>>81904333
>getting hyped by Johns
>ever
i remember being young.
>>81904418
Pretty much, yeah.
>>81904419
Yeah I saw a bunch of them had the names of events. How does that work exactly?
Also now Marvel has Secret Wars, Secret Wars 2, Silent War, Secret War, and Secret Wars. Good job Marvel.
Blackest Night and Flashpoint were fun. The tie ins didn't suck or hold back the main story
>>81904452
>>81904452
Well shit. I guess I need to find out which JL issue is the start, because I was too busy reading the superior JLA at the time
>>81904486
#23 is the last issue of Trinity War and leads directly into Forever Evil.
The event itself starts with #24.
>>81904552
okay, I'll try to read JL>FE>JL>FE and so on
>>81904576
You know what, I remember Desginated Dave edited together a version of Forever Evil that tried to put all the most important parts of the issues and the tie-ins together in either chronological or thematic order. I wonder if anyone has the download for that still, it was pretty good.
>>81904663
Does he have like, a Mediafire or something?
>>81904696
I dunno, let me search around and see if I can find it.
>>81904765
>>81904765
After some searching of my own, he does have a mediafire, but I have no idea how to navigate backwards so I can see other things he uploaded
Any new 52 event was retarded (specially Forever Evil), but Flashpoint was the worst DC has made in a long, long time.
Every Crisis event was good, even Identity, if you think of it as an alternate universe.
Final Night is a gem. Perfectly made.
Day of Judgment, War of the Gods, Legends, were pretty terrible and made only to promote 1 character or book. Not as bad as the worst of the worst: Millenium, Blackest Night, Flashpoint.
That's it for DC. They may have more events but I read them too long ago.
With Marvel, most of them are trash, with the exception of Infinity Gauntlet, Secret Wars 1, Inferno and Acts of Vengance. Secret Wars 1 is at the top along Final Night.
>>81907001
>Flashpoint
The movie was aight tho
>>81907148
The movie is not the comic.
The comic was full of cliches, bad art, edgyness, character insertion and unoriginality. And of course people loved it.
>>81903997
Valiant's events are all great.
>>81907001
Why would you consider Blackest night bad?
OP, you still here?
I'm pretty knowledgeable about events so I could answer your questions. I'll illuminate some things already mentioned in this thread.
For Forever Evil, I recommend reading the Bizarro and Luthor evil month issues before the main story, they add a bit to Luthor's part and he's basically the MC.
For Secret Wars, it's basically a culmination of everything Hickman had ever done at Marvel, including his Avengers books, Fantastic Four books, and Ultimates books, but I get that that's a lot to ask so maybe don't read all this.
For Silent War, it was a planned trilogy of minis but was cut short because of Annhilation stuff, which are much better anyway.
Also, I recently read Final Night and thought it was shit lol, why is it being praised by multiple people. Half of the story had to do with the LOSH, which I know jack shit about.
>>81907445
Space zombies had no point other than REEMEMBER MEE.
Nekron was confusing, pwning the Anti-Monitor, and violating Endless canon. He died from a big beam.
Believe this is where THE ENTITY came from and the 6th time since GL Rebirth that we find out the Guardians are a bunch of lying pricks. Life originating on Earth.
Death in the DCU being a problem that was changed forever was never followed up on.
>>81908087
They are zombies. They aren't meant to be deep. If anything, a named horde is by definiton better than a nameless horde. And even then some of the zombies had an impact on the characters, like Sue Dibny and the Question.
Also, complaining about contradictions in the cosmic hierachy? In DC? come on. At this point there must be like 3 different canon stories of creation, 4 different incarnations of death, 3 different incarnations of nothingness, 2 different embodiments of the universe, etc. And they are all true, from different perspectives. Contradictions in a long living comic book universe are nothing new, and if anything they make it more diverse and interesting.
>>81907001
>Identity Crisis
>Better than Flashpoint and Blackest Night and Millenium
Like holy shit no. It was fucking retarded. You mean to tell me fucking Jean Loring can fucking outsmart Batman, Mister Miracle, and the Metal Men? Who the fuck thought turning Tim Drake into another "Muh Dead Parents" was smart? Deathstroke manages to make everybody job to him. Dr Light was supposed to be incompetent then? Didn't he literally just had a storyline in the Teen Titans book where he kicked all their asses? Holy shit how the fuck did Dr Light even managed to get into the Watchtower? Did they have no security? The whole event was fucking shit and was made to put in a new status quo that was dumb. It had shoe-horned in moments like Firestorm suddenly dying that served no purpose other than to set up stories that had nothing to do with the story itself. At least Space Zombies was cool and had fun tie-ins, same with Flashpoint.
Also no one recommending Sinestro Corp War yet? Disappointing.
>>81905051
Here is a link
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/dc2st9b55mg69/Forever_Evil_SuperEdit_by_DD
>>81909008
None of the convoluted backstory which involved universal life originating on Earth (in a way specifically evocative of Genesis,for some reason) was relevant within the event aside from explaining why the Z-lister Big Bad focused on taking the planet over. And it had no impact outside of that issue. Just sound and fury.
Main reason why I consider Blackest Night bad, however, is that it's shallow continuity porn padded out by pointless fights like a DBZ arc.
>>81908087
I hope the white lantern entity died at some point. I truly do.
>>81909598
You're in luck, it already happened.Kyle's the new one now technically.
