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>I understand that the DC Rebirth titles have a two year story arc that all books will be a part of, to varying degrees.
>Masterminded by DC CCO Geoff Johns, it will begin with DC Universe: Rebirth #1 in May and conclude in the summer of 2018.
>Geoff Johns has been having meetings with all the DC Rebirth writers to better align their work with this plan, and to weave plotlines in and out of all the titles.
>There have also been examples when DC co-Publisher has laid out plans with a writer, only for Geoff Johns to scotch them all and tell the writer to ignore everything DiDio just said.
>You know DC said they were bringing back Continuity? You don’t now the half of it. As long as everyone gets along, that is…
>Geoff Johns has been having meetings with all the DC Rebirth writers to better align their work with this plan, and to weave plotlines in and out of all the titles.
God fucking dammit. Did they learn nothing from the clusterfuck of crossovers and events at the beginning of the New 52? It was terrible.
I could see some of the bigger books having nods or tie ins to an overarching plotline that's mostly being addressed in one book (whatever Johns is on, presumably, and maybe JL) but working a two year arc into ALL books sounds absurd
also Rucka already said that they told him being part of a big event was optional
>>81898587
Well people also hated the DCYou books being their own thing and couldn't understand Darkseid War/Truth happening at different times
that's a shitty idea, the best thing that came out of New 52 was the small isolated titles with more author freedom that led to some pretty good runs
>>81898675
There's a middle ground between "all canons completely ignore each other" and "everything is part of a massive 2-year crossover event."
Most people don't give a shit about the books that they aren't pulling, and it's infuriating as hell to not know what's going on in the book you're reading without getting the others.
WE FULL SHIELD ERA NOW
>Harley with the Justice League
>>81898808
She's not with the Justice League, she's just one of DC's most popular characters, so she goes on the marketing along with Justice League, Super Sons, Batgirl, and GLC.
>>81898594
>also Rucka already said that they told him being part of a big event was optional
See now that's understandable.
>>81898879
>She's not with the Justice League
yet
>>81898879
GLs will tank so hard it's not even funny.
Unless Johns is writing, of course.
>>81898808
You're a moron.
>>81898956
Johns is co-writing the GLs Rebirth book with Humphries, but after that it's all dogfucker
Venditti is still writing Hal Jordan and the GLC
>across all titles
It's like they want me to drop their books.
Goddammit, this shit will be pain in the ass to follow if you want to reread it in a few years.
With Johns masterminding everything, this could be pretty decent.
>my invisibly happy face when Bob Harras is nowhere to be found in all of this
>>81898989
Then book is fucked.
>>81898956
Hahaha remember when GL was a top seller right next to Batman and had a big event in its name
GL right now is pulling like half of what it was before New 52
>>81899069
>GL used to move 80k+ units
>DC threw it all away
> DC Rebirth To Have A Two Year Story Arc Across All Titles
Guess I'm not reading DC for the next two years
Is that two years as in one year of double shipping or two years of double shipping? Because it seems unlikely DC's going to commit to 48 issue runs of everything, we barely got 12 issues of Omega Men.
What's with all the negativity? Is this the Outhousers?
>>81898587
>implying this wasn't done back when they were preparing for infinite crisis
>>81899170
The turn on DC has begun.
Half way through Civil War II, /co/ will find itself scrambling to support it and say how wonderful it is.
>>81899133
>>81899069
To be fair that's not because of New 52, it's because Johns left. He wasn't going to write his husbando forever.
>>81899170
It's because nobody likes forced events where you have to read a dozen different titles to understand what's going on.
>>81899203
>>>/tv/
>>81898961
>>81898879
shut up you fucking blind worshippers, I'm referring to this PREVIEW (all we have to go by right now) and there she is surrounded by League members, with other characters clear on the other side
>>81899170
>What's with all the negativity?
It's DC
>>81899218
I know it's because that Johns left.
It's just it's pulling half of what it was before New 52 and Rebirth could've easily gotten sales up some, but they kept the same writer that caused sales to dip lower and lower.
It's probably gonna be like ANAD where books that relaunched with the same team settled lower than they did before the relaunch.
>>81899255
But you don't know if it's going to be that way. There's lots of events where you don't need to read everything to understand them and are overall pretty self contained.
>power ring
>Jihad Lantern
>world's fastest convenience store robber
>>81899255
Why /tv/? He's talking about the Civil War II comic. Learn to read.
>>81899255
That's not going to be necessary, this sounds like it's going to try to do what they originally planned to do with the Daemonites before they realized nobody cares about them and quietly shuffled them off into limbo.
>>81899218
still it went from like 70k to 30k and they still haven't tried changing the writer to this day
I'm sure there most be someone at DC more passionate than venditti
>>81899255
>It's because nobody likes forced events where you have to read a dozen different titles to understand what's going on.
You'd be surprised how many people only want what's "important".
One reason why crossovers and events still do well because people still feel compelled to follow them and all the tie ins, even if the tie ins usually have little to do with the main thing.
>>81899277
/co/ has been sucking DC cock for the past few months, what are you talking about.
>>81899255
>Civil War II
>/tv/
Is DC trying to fool us now that Cyborg was always part of the JLA?
>>81899255
>It's because nobody likes forced events where you have to read a dozen different titles to understand what's going on.
/co/ doesn't
capeshitfags do
>>81899484
Good catch. Though I'm surprised they left J'onn in.
>>81899170
>What's with all the negativity?
Could have something to do with how DC has been absolute shit for the past 5/10/15/20 years (number depends on who you ask).
>>81899484
He was part of the Super Powers team, a show a 12 year old Geoff Johns enjoyed very much.
>>81899484
Huh, I never even noticed Atom was there
>>81899614
>all those adults
>and Robin
>>81899614
God I fucking hate Firestorm
>>81898675
No matter what DC does people will bitch about it.
>>81899676
DON'T YOU LOVE HIM YET, ANON?
>>81899687
They could try not being shit all the time.
>>81899676
>>81899701
>not finding Johns' forcing Firestorm hilarious
can't believe Fury of was the longest lasting Nu52 title
>>81899394
I don't know where you've been the past few months but it certainly wasn't /co/
I'm scared but intrigued
>>81899687
I know, comic fans are split on everything due to have numerous eras, different interpretations, different ways of having "BIG EVENTS", and times where there were no big events.
DCYou flopped, plain and simple, and they haven't had a really big build up to an event since 2011/2012 and Forever Evil.
If Marvel weren't pumping out events left and right then this news probably wouldn't be so exhausting.
>>81899720
I dunno, it works for Marvel but I guess the Marvel fans like being battered wives.
Well that's shit if it's true.
It's okay, I'll still have (DCYou)ng Animal. It's what I'm most looking forward to anyway.
All they're doing is repeatedly saying TRUST US GUYS THIS TIME WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
No. No you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be in the situation you're in now. Nu52 would have never happened. You would have fixed the real continuity instead of forcing this Elseworlds shit on us. Marvel wouldn't be blowing your asshole out every day of every year.
>>81899806
I wouldn't know, I never read Marvel. Only capeshit I read is DC, and by god has DC gone to shit since 2000.
>>81899841
Reminder that those will sell below average but the fantastic sales of all the event lead ups and the event itself will subsidize those anywayWhy don't good self contained books sell, /co/?
Meh I'll just see how this turns out before getting triggered about it, so far I am liking some of the possibilities of the new titles.
Hope they don't screw up tho.
>>81899867
>Nu52 would have never happened.
If sales were still shit, then yeah, the reboot would've happened.
We Identity Crisis to 52 era now.
>There have also been examples when DC co-Publisher has laid out plans with a writer, only for Geoff Johns to scotch them all and tell the writer to ignore everything DiDio just said.
ABSOLUTE BASED.
>>81899905
because those books don't have Batman, Spider-Man, or the Xmen
>>81898446
>Geoff Johns
Fuck that shit.
>>81899905
I think its that a lot of he audience it appeals to prefers to read them in trades rather than monthlies.
>>81899728
>>81899701
Better than the subhuman push in any case.
>>81899901
They need to change who is in charge especially since it's been the same people on top for a long ass time and that created some form os staleness.
Same thing with Marvel except that Marvel is popular right now and their crap sells so they don't have to worry about being shit, hell they treat their fans who complain like shit and they still sell.
>>81899989
Well trade sales are pretty ass so far. Definitely not the Hawkeye and Ms Marvel tier trade sales DC was probably hoping for.
>Midnighter is below 10k now
>Trade sold 1,678 first month
>didn't even chart the next month
>tfw
Those amazon sales better be Batman tier to make up for how disappointed I am
>>81899942
>There have also been examples when DC co-Publisher has laid out plans with a writer, only for Geoff Johns to scotch them all and tell the writer to ignore everything DiDio just said.
If that's true, that's actually a good sign.
I don't think Johns is good at all, he's the definition of overrated totally average writer, but I'll trust him any fucking day over Didio. Didio has brain problems.
>>81900056
Marvel's big money maker is Star Wars and they're hoping Civil War saves them. They fucked up massively with Secret Wars.
>>81900095
What did you expect from literally who? It doesn't matter how good the writing is.
>>81898446
Fuck off Johnston
>>81898594
>also Rucka already said that they told him being part of a big event was optional
But how can I shit all over DC if writers get to choose to participate?
DC editorial is the devil I tell you!
>>81898446
Where is the real flash
>>81900159
I hope they fuck up with CWII even more, tired of Bendis.
Why are they going out of there way to not show Superman's crotch?
>>81898446
>Batgrrl and Harley
kek
>>81900038
What?
>>81898446
is there anything that hasn't been rebooted, "refreshed" or otherwise recycled by now
it's getting kind of exhausting
>>81899942
>We Identity Crisis to 52 era now.
Johns is nowhere near his 2005 level.
In fact a 2 years old arc??
That's TERRIBLE, Darkseid War was one year long and NOTHING happened. It was horrible.
>>81900095
Johns was one of the mastermind behind Identity Crisis to 52 era where everything was leading to Infinite Crisis and continuity was tight as fuck as well as overarching plot. Another guys highly attached to that era were Rucka and Winnick and Didio was a showrunner. It's understandable for them to go back to that storytelling, DC made bank in that era. Sales were extraordinary.
>>81900300
what what
>>81898446
>>81898587
>building up to a new Crisis
If this is true, I wouldn't worry about it much. At worst, you would get a radical relaunch/reboot two years from now. All it would mean is that writers and artists are planning to tell stories in a two-year timeframe.
As long as the Rebirth story doesn't interfere with the main books I'm fine. Will probably read the Rebirth titles of my books anyway though since I'm a filthy pirate
>>81900159
>implying CWII won't buttfuck "DC IS REBOOTING AGAIN?!?!?"
>>81899867
>Nu52 would have never happened
Just like Crisis never would have happened?
whos more forced cyborg or this guy?
>>81900249
The first issue is gonna be the best selling issue of the year and Marvel already has a couple books selling 200k-300k.
Secret Wars #1 was like 500k+ so Civil war II will be near there.
>>81900479
Cena as Shazam.
>>81900321
Dumbass it's not a two years old consecutive story arc, it's an overarching storytelling which was done in that era. Tutles like Superman, Batman, Teen Titans, Wonder Woman, JLA among others all referenced to an overarching plot leading up to Infinite Crisis. They totld self contained stories but they also told big in universe tie in stories. It's ok to admit you're a newfag who didn't read stuff back then.
>>81900479
At least Cyborg is still over
So might this be what the Johns/Snyder/King thing they hinted at a couple months ago?
Snyder and King already said they planned out a Bat crossover or two so them planning with Johns about an event seems likely.
I just can't trust Johns to set up plotlines and then actually deliver on them.
>>81900765
This
Remember Pandora?
>>81900790
I wish I didn't
>>81900790
Well the box got opened but I doubt they kept the original plan, what with Robinson fucking off and nobody caring about the Daemonites
>>81900765
I'd kill to see Shazamed Cyborg.
>>81900790
Pandora was Didio's brainchild.
>>81900790
Wasn't Pandora Didio's idea?
>>81900951
see
>>81900865
Even if it was Didio's idea, he and Johns were working closely with Robinson. Robinson walking off thanks to that one editor screwed up everything. Pretty obvious they were going for Earth 2 and main earth meeting, kinda like the JSA/JLA team ups.
>>81900765
>>81900790
>people still falling for Johns hype
>>81901039
Who is that editor? I have voodoo doll spare.
But we got Forever Evil out of it, so yeah
>>81901089
We don't know.
But probably Berganza and/or Cotton considering they were brought on before Robinson got mad and left. If not them, then the editor before them.
>>81901089
cotton
>>81900430
I just wonder what they're going to call it.
Can't really roll back a "Final" Crisis, y'know?
Either way, I'm all but positive this plus Heavy Metal means there's no way in hell we're getting Multiversity Too out of DC and Morrison in 2016 like he initially announced.
>>81898675
But that's what made DC you good.
Crossovers are one of the biggest problems in the genre.
>>81898746
>"all canons completely ignore each other"
They aren't different canons and they don't ignore each other. I'd rather have that than what we have now anyways.
>>81900790
She got a book you didn't read it?
Shit heads are over reacting.
The big 7 are probably gonna have to deal with a Dark Reign Esque continuity status quo while the smaller books go about thier nonsense.
It isn't Geoff John's with his hand up Tom Kings ass like people desperately want to believe.
>>81900092
You can't look at Diamond numbers for trade sales and expect to get accurate results. Those are to LCSes, and people who mainly buy in trades are far more likely to use bookstores or Amazon.
>>81898989
>GL
>Humphries
I'm so sorry DC. I'm so very sorry.
>>81904454
>DC is getting a Rebirth huh?
>looks like every book is getting a new writer
>maybe the GL line will finally be good again
>lol nah time for more Venditti now ft. Dogfucker
>>81904168
Well duh but they were obviously hoping for a hit like Hawkeye or Ms Marvel which DO do well with LCSes as well as bookstores and amazons.
>>81898446
>Captain Marvel is still fag ass Shazam with his fag ass hood and his fag ass glowing thunder chest
Call me when DC is good again.
>>81904662
>muh red trunks
>muh blue fingerstripes
>now this
Comic fans are awful.
>>81900790
>>81900865
>>81901039
The teaser for Trinity War had the same characters as the real Trinity War, and came out the month Earth 2 started.
Robinson didn't leave Earth 2 until Forever Evil had already started
Now Darkseid War, maybe
>>81904697
Tbh senpai the original costumes are more iconic
Wanting them back is reasonable.
>>81905395
wanting them back is reasonable, refusing to read anything without them in it is ridiculous
>>81905395
Fingerstripes aren't original slash nobody wants back Discowing
>>81905464
I want the cleavage back.
>>81899170
>telling the writers what they have to write instead of letting them write what they want
>>81905464
>nobody wants back Discowing
speak for yourself faggot.
>>81898746
DCYou was that middle ground. Everything was canon but it happened at different time periods.
Sales didn't show a good response. Autistic adherence to canon trumps good stories in the end.
>>81901078
Is Geoff Johns the Todd Howard of comics?
>IT JUST WORKS
>>81904137
After trinity war, pandora crap and darkseid war why would i want Johns involved
He needs to go back to smaller books where he can shine.
I think most people are over reacting to this. I wouldn't think of it as an event. I think there saying that their will be a certain level of interconnectedness similar to how it was in the early 2000s.
>>81899539
DC has been consistently good since the 80s.
What's the timeline of DC Universe reboots?
1985-1986: COIE
1994(?): Zero Hour
2004-2006: Identity Crisis & Infinite Crisis
2008: Final Crisis
2011: Flashpoint
2016: Rebirth
That timeline is leaving stuff out, but I'm not entirely sure what (it doesn't count all of the retroactive inclusions into continuity and retcons that occurred prior to COIE for example).
My personal opinion is that I'm not entirely sure why DC is seemingly reboot obsessed (although to be fair Marvel has it's own fair of time-fuckery). Every time I hear somebody say that it's for the benefit of new readers I end up shaking my head, as all this does is add another convoluted twist into the greater continuity.
While I dig all of the multiverses and this sort of stuff, sometimes I can't help but feel that DC is a bit too involved with its own continuity, and that this is somewhat pretentious/vain of the company to do so. It's a lot like non-conclusive navel gazing.
>>81908694
>Rebirth
not a reboot, bro
>>81908725
Might have misjudged based on the name brahddy.
Although they're talking about streamlining continuity or re-aligning continuity around a new central storyline?
>continuity autists win
Fuck. Everything. I hope there are enough titles which ignore the arc as much as possible.
>>81908835
they're just making continuity a little tighter and not doing any more wacky stuff like Superbro or Renegade Hal
it's only a reboot if you consider GL Rebirth a reboot (which you shouldn't because it's not)
>>81908930
Well there are the Hanna Barbera, Young Animal, and Vertigo books.
>>81908725
We have no idea if it is or isn't a reboot though.
>believing Rich Johnston
How long until links to Bleeding Cool are filtered from /co/ and sent straight to /trash/?
>>81908979
>We have no idea if it is or isn't a reboot though.
Lee/Johns/Didio/etc. have literally said "it's not a reboot" multiple times
>>81900354
in the butt
>>81908725
It's "not a reboot" in the same way that Infinite Crisis or Zero Hour weren't a total start from scratch.
>>81909469
those weren't reboots either
>>81899266
on a scale of one to mad, i'd rate you at a solid mad
>>81898446
While it wasn't with every single book they were already doing that, although it waned in the past 2-3 years. Shit like Grail's first mention being in Vibe.
Probably bullshit but if it's true I wonder how Batman Beyond and Earth Two will tie in
>>81898594
THEY told RUCKA. I bet they just told him that and made him an exception just because they're still pretty rocky in their relationship. Learn to read between the lines you neanderthal
>>81899255
already said that it was optional to join in, more or less they'll most likely be passing references like how One Year Later Titles were with 52
>>81898594
>>81899145
>Guess I'm not reading DC for the next two years
I haven't read it since Flashpoint, casual
>>81899170
>Is this the Outhousers?
I don't speak buzzword faggot
>>81899484
>Is DC trying to fool us now that Cyborg was always part of the JLA?
That is exactly what they're doing, and they're claiming it as pre-Flashpoint continuity for no fucking reason whatsoever.
>>81900260
They're being cagey about which Superman you're looking at because pre-Flashpoint still has red undies.
>>81901078
I don't trust anyone whose response to seeing torches successfully passed from one generation to another is FUCK THAT RESET EVERYTHING TO WHAT I LIKED AS A KID
spoilers: i'm older than Johns and I *liked* seeing Kyle, Wally and Dick earn their stripes because unlike him I'm not emotionally attached to Hal, Barry and Bruce
>>81914544
I'm just scared that we're going to have everything be reset to how the loudest whiners want it to be, and it won't be allowed to grow from there anymore.
Guys, they're not going to have 20 some books all trying to tell the same story. That's not going to fucking happen.
Likely books will have a central plot that will be contained to it's own books, but sow greater plot seeds for an eventual crossover. In most cases introducing a character who might be a bigger deal in an event or some kind of maguffin.
If anything it will probably just be some Red Skies/Pandora shit where something is mentioned in one panel and forgotten about later. Get real.
>>81898446
>More human Green Lanterns
>black underage Wally (he will never join the old titans)
>Pre 52 Superman being the mainstream Superman just to please nostalgia fags
>Lois getting New 52 Superman's powers
>Pushing for Harley Quin when they could be using Plastic Man or any other character that is humorous but DC refuses to push for
>>81915763
DC wants their own Deadpool
Ignoring that a large appeal of Deadpool is that he has an actual character beyond the jokes and antics with his own story and supporting cast
normies eat harley up though.
>>81914544
Did you get emotionally attached to Wally, Dick and Kyle?
>>81915763
Sorry Krusty. There are no breaks on this train.
>>81915763
Harley has more than four fans, for one thing.
>>81915763
>Pushing for Harley Quin when they could be using Plastic Man or any other character that is humorous but DC refuses to push for
Are you serious? Unlike Plastic Man Harley is popular, and she's getting a fucking movie. It would be incredibly idiotic from DC's part to not push her.
Rucka said they told him he didn't have to tie into anything, so Rich is probably blowing whatever this is out of proportion.
>>81904662
oh my fucking god, you fucking autist.
>>81908694
1986 and 2016.
>>81905464
what do you have against this?
>>81915837
Deadpool has been terrible for 15 years, dude.
>>81898446
Alright DC you pulled me back in. Hypercrisis time it is.
>>81899614
Who's that guy on the right ?
>>81921875
I shit you not, Samurai. He's not even a Samurai, IIRC he has wind based powers.
>>81913255
>>81898594
This isn't even the first time DC has said getting event tie-ins have been optiona;
>>81900092
Get over it. Midnighter wasn't even that good.
>>81901039
>Pretty obvious they were going for Earth 2 and main earth meeting, kinda like the JSA/JLA team ups.
They were. Robinson mentioned it quite a bit and I seem to recall Johns mentioning it a couple times too
>>81905155
>The teaser for Trinity War had the same characters as the real Trinity War
Yeah it's easy to plan to have that to be the case.
>Robinson didn't leave Earth 2 until Forever Evil had already started
No, he left well in advance. he just finished his story which he had finished writing months earlier too. And Forever Evil doesn't seem like something that was entirely planned either because at the beginning Lemire and Johns were presenting Trinity War to be something different than what we actually got;.
>>81917608
>tfw no Wally Flash on there
>>81923292
Who's behind old Jay?
>>81923295
tv show flash
>>81923335
false, there is no TV-Verse Earth in Multiversity you maroon.
>>81915763
>Pushing for Harley Quin when they could be using Plastic Man
It's hilarious how entitled /co/ is. "Oh please DC don't use this character who prints money for you because I don't personally like them. Can you give her up for a character who lost his popularity in the 50's?"
>>81923295
Classic Barry Flash
>>81923422
Yeah no, that's not how his Cowl looked like you dinggus.
>>81923413
As awesome as Plastic Man is, he just doesn't sell. Just look at the latest Injustice Annual. Really the only hope we have of Plas becoming popular again is if Johns remembered he was setting him up prior Darkseid War and does a Solo Book on him and revives him in the hearts of the casuals alike (Like Aquaman) by doing a above average story that gets tons of praise because it's been the first time the character got a solo with a High Profile Writer. But the chances of DC putting Johns on a book with a C-Lister is pretty slim since they'd rather just have him fiddling around as CCO and Live-Action Stuff.
Harley's popularity is......... weird, her solo book barely has a tenth the charm and wit of the current Deadpool book, it's basically Waypool with crappier art.
Multiply that by ten with her Gang of Harley's book when compared to the Deadpool and the Mercs for Money which works because the cast actually is hilarious and works off each other instead of just being stereotypes with a Harley Paint.
Now Black Book when compared to Deadpool's Team-Up Book Deadpool/Spider-Man.... yeah Black Book isn't that bad I guess but Deadpool/Spider-Man is pretty great.
New (Emphasize on the NEW, the launch Suicide Book was shite, New Suicide Squad book got better once they got to the Not Isis Arc, mainly because the launch artist for New Suicide Squad was shit) Suicide Squad Harley is great though and actually remembers that Harley is mentally deranged and that is still a criminal and kills people but still manages to include cute moments with her.
See, the problem here is out of all of these, literally only 1 book treats Harley like the Villain she is, the rest keep trying to push her as some kind of anti-hero/anti-villain/flip flop.
>>81923534
>>Yeah no, that's not how his Cowl looked like you dinggus.
You're right. But it's not Wally's cowl either
>>81923551
could be a colorist mistake on the eyes, I remember by Flash Rebirth Wally's suit covered way down to his nose.
>>81923561
Hmm. You're right it did go down to his eyes. It's also a lot lighter than Wally's costume but like you said probably just colourist messing up
So is this new "story before continuity" policy over, already?
And there I thought mainstream comics weren't completely dead inside. Guess I was wrong.
>>81923582
>So is this new "story before continuity" policy over, already?
Yeah. The DCYou bombed really hard.
>>81923582
yeah, the Continuity Fags won, at least we got Young Animal, Prez 2nd Term, and the Hanna Barbera Books. Gotham Academy New Semester seems pretty outside continuity too as well as Super Sons and Blue Beetle
>>81923611
>Super Sons and Blue Beetle
Why do you think so for these two when they were announced alongside the rest of Rebirth? And Super Sons already lost it's creative team so I wouldn't expect much "freedom" there.
>>81923581
Emblem is wrong though, can anyone sift through the Guidebook real quick and see if they can spot which Earth Flash this is supposed to be? It can't be Earth Me Wally since his cowl exposes his nose?
>>81923656
Well... for one thing Blue Beetle just seems to out of left field, and it's got Giffen on it and he seems to be pretty loose with continuity (Heck, he managed to make JL3K take place in a different continuity just like that) I have no idea what you mean by lost it's creative team for Super Sons, isn't Jorge Jimenez still drawing it?
>>81923688
>I have no idea what you mean by lost it's creative team for Super Sons, isn't Jorge Jimenez still drawing it?
It's conjecture at this point but looks really likely. No creative teams were ever officially announced yet and Jorge Jiminez only drew the cover art. But the cover art isn't a generic sample peice due to their clearly being a villain on it. There's also the rumour that some creators were told they were no longer part of the plans last minute and left at the airport. So It just seems likely that Super SOns lost it's creative team.
>>81917199
Deadpools been great for 4 years, dude.
>>81923412
still looks an awful lot like it
>>81923761
Not as beefy and emblem is wrong.
>>81923292
there's a red headed Kid Flash in the top left
>>81923866
Kid Flash, not Flash.
>>81917199
Deadpool has been fine since Duggan took over
>>81923688
>Blue Beetle just seems to out of left field
Teds going to be in the films and outside of the JSA and Robins Blue Beetle is probably their best legacy character so they're the selling piece on "SEE WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING LEGACY". Even the mini chapter titled Legacy is about Ted and Jaime.
Also yeah, there you go, they're going to be in the Rebirth mini so its in continuity.
Oh god...it's Countdown cubed.
For two years. Across all titles. And then cancellation, delay.....I wanna get off and the ride hasn't even started.
>>81915763
>>black underage Wally (he will never join the old titans)
>>Pre 52 Superman being the mainstream Superman just to please nostalgia fags
This two don't add up.
>>81922955
Kill yourself
>>81923656
>Super Sons already lost it's creative team so I wouldn't expect much "freedom" there.
What?
>>81928099
You're funny.
What Flash is in Justice League? Also why is DC still pushing jihad Lantern when everyone basically gave up on him and he had the shittiest possible intro? Do they think he's going to become their Ms Marvel
>>81929005
His laughable logic for the handgun is what gets me.
>>81929179
Lantern rings fail every year during the annual GL events. Lanterns need some back up protection from editorial.
>>81929179
>His laughable logic for the handgun is what gets me.
>my ring is constantly malfunctioning and is low on power since it was Sinestros and is broken as shit so I carry a back-up weapon
What's wrong with that logic?
>>81929230
>>81929246
So of all the situations that might arise from losing the ring in battle it in space, a gun would be the thing to carry. Not a helmet, or armor. Not a multitool. Not even an oxygen tank. Not even extra ammo or a better firearm. How about a cell phone so he can call uber when he can't fly?
But since he will be facing things that a bullet can handle more than any of these obstacles, I guess it's perfectly logical to carry one gun around when you are space cop for 1/3600th of the entire cosmos. It'll surely help.
Are Muslims against backpacks if they don't have explosives inside? That might come in handy too.
>>81905464
>not wanting Dick with cleavage down to his bellybutton back
Are you gay?
>>81929470
Go back to your autism containment board, you ponyfag.
>>81929470
>But since he will be facing things that a bullet can handle more than any of these obstacles, I guess it's perfectly logical to carry one gun around when you are space cop for 1/3600th of the entire cosmos. It'll surely help.
Exactly. Him and Jessica are staying on Earth. They aren't going to be flying around space. A gun is a fine backup option, especially since he'll be spending a lot of time in America where you faggots shoot anything that moves inbetween burger meals.But seriously, 10/10 shitposting mate. I see you like putting a bit of effort into it
>>81929751
The gun is still no help no matter what you call me, GL's are not street level. But let's just enjoy writers having to create situations for a character like that excusing the gun. Or not whatever the case may be.
>>81929862
If he stays in the US he is done.
That gun is totally inadequate, not even an automatic.
>>81929888
>being this assblasted
You a Kylefag or Stewartfag?
>>81904662
>SONIC's ARMS ARE BLUE
>>81929937
I prefer them over almost all other GL's.
Them and Guy are best. That's it for me.
>>81930050
>liking Kyle and Stewart
Alright, now you're just being too obvious with your trolling.
So wait there's another reboot again? Didn't they just do one like 4 years ago?
>>81930136
You suck at this.
>>81908694
>2004-2006: Identity Crisis & Infinite Crisis
>2008: Final Crisis
These weren't reboots
>>81931220
Sorry for calling you out, but you're being too obvious so nobody is going to fall for it anymore. Try doing it in the next Rebirth thread.
>>81914544
But Flash Rebirth wasn't even Johns' idea, and did you even read JSA, Johns is all about legacies
>>81930142
no reboot
>>81908694
>1994(?): Zero Hour
>2004-2006: Identity Crisis & Infinite Crisis
>2008: Final Crisis
>2016: Rebirth
You are confusing events with reboots. Certain franchises were affected but none of this were reboots as far as the DCU as a whole goes. Only COIE and Flashpoint.
>>81930142
It's a relaunch, not a reboot. Nothing gets a fresh start, they're just bring back pre-Flashpoint characters and events into the fold. Action and Detective comics are going back to their old numbering, everything else is getting #1'd, but it's not rebooting anything.
>>81898446
>always wished Johns could write the entire DCU
>its impossible
>Johns finds a way to be the conductor of the DC orchestra where every book is a different instrument
This is either going to be mind blowingly great or an unprecedented catastrophe
>>81932356
The premise is great, but editorial almost always ends up fucking everything up.
>>81932415
Honestly, as much as I'm inclined to agree, with the report of WB wanting Johns to be their Feige, but his not being able to because of his obligations elsewhere, as well as his not writing a monthly within Rebirth, clearly he has a time sink he is working on. With the countless reports of his having hands on meetings with the writers of and for each book so they fit the plan, and even this one from Rich of his telling people to ignore Didio, this really seems like unprecedented hands on attention on Johns's part, so much so that the editors might just be handling the publishing operations side of things if only because Johns really seems to be the line wide story editor if reports are to be believed.
>>81929751
>you ponyfag.
wut
>>81929005
>he had the shittiest possible intro?
But his intro arc was pretty good.
>>81932705
People suffering from autism fucking love ponies.
Didio said it wasn't accurate btw, more likely to believe him since it aligns with what creators like Rucka have said
https://twitter.com/dandidio1/status/721765910491435009
>we have a long term story but, by no means, does it tie to every book and every other storyline.
>>81935008
I'm guessing stuff like Batgirl, BoP, and Gotham Academy won't play a part due to the creators involved or being so out there?
>>81935008
>https://twitter.com/dandidio1/status/721765910491435009
He's not denying it, just saying not every books ties into it obviously, like how scott snyder's batman books never cross into anything anyone else is doing.
>>81935111
Honestly I think it's probably just going to be some books having backup stories that tie into it but it won't interrupt the main stuff
>>81936154
>two year story arc that all books will be a part of
>by no means, does it tie to every book and every other storyline
>He's not denying it
What isn't he denying?
>>81936550
That there's a two year story arc across most of the books
>>81936674
Of course he's not denying it. He flat out says it.
>>81900244
Barry's in the middle hour glass. But he's not getting a new design or book, which the broken hourglass is about.
>>81923292
I mean, there's the Justice Riders Wally West and Kid Flash, atleast. It's not Wally devoid.
>>81931383
...What? Flash Rebirth was Johns' idea. And he's very proud of it. Johns made the pitch and it got turned down, then a couple years later (after the whole Bart fiasco) EVS pestered Didio about it and they green lighted it.
>>81923292
>>81923292
>>81923292
Wally's got the nose piece.
>>81938072
Source?
>>81936674
That's standard for events though
The "everything will tie in and lead up to it" is not since it's usually a select few of important characters or certain writers.
All Star Batman, Harley, and Gotham Academy are things that probably won't due to how out there they are or because they have other titles
>>81938177
My source is Johns is the writer and EVS did an interview about how he pestered Didio into agreeing to it. I wonder why you think it was EVS's idea.
>>81938177
Go look at any Flash Rebirth interview from 2008 online and all of them will have Johns going on about how he left the Wally book at the right time and came back to The Flash so he could write Barry.
>>81923412
I remember back in the day when Smallville was running, someone mentioning that it was part of the multiverse.
>>81941605
Smallville is part of a different multiverse
