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>>81878744
That wouldn't have been that General Egregious a design if it included an armored mask. A Mon Cal mask like Grievous? Sure, it could look cool. Maybe. That art style is still a bit iffy.
>>81878744
>Not called /swco/
>Not doing the proper edition format
>No rogue one link
You're very, very bad.
No EU allowed, faggots. Fuck your Thrawn and your KOTOR.
>>81878744
This image is like the perfect example of what I avoid the EU
>>81878874
>Fuck your Thrawn
Gladly
>>81878870
It literally the same as the last thread. Calm your autisim. It's not a big deal.
>>81878937
The last thread was shit too. Probably the same faggy OP made it.
>>81878937
Last thread was shit too, kiddo.
Doesn't make this one any less horrible.
>>81878902
How dare you compare nuCanon to EU filth.
Get the fuck out.
>>81878937
Any self-respecting thread maker should know how to fix the damn OP if it's messed up. There's no excuse
>>81878966
>>81878967
You guys spend entirely too much time on 4chan if you care that much.
>>81878966
>>81878967
No one actually cares, children.
Since we're on the topic of the old EU: How much of it do you think they're going to put back into the canon?
I know the R6 droids from the old canon were props in TFA, and we've had some Legends stuff pop up in Rebels, but how far do you think they'll really go with that vs. making entirely new things?
>>81878984
This.
>>81878984
This.
>>81878984
this
>>81879013
>Since we're on the topic of the old EU
No, we're not. Fuck off back to /tv/ pleb.
>>81878870
>Not called /swco/
That just makes this general get banned even faster.
>Not doing the proper edition format
It's completely fine, faggot.
>No rogue one link
Anyone who posts here has already seen it and knows how to find it. No one cares.
Goddamn, this general is becoming cancerous.
>>81878999
You sure about that?
>>81878984
>>81878967
>>81878966
>>81878870
By the Maker, the odds of anyone finding the Star Wars thread on /co/ are 1,340,000 to 1! We're doomed
>>81879013
We're probably going to see nearly all the technical details of the old EU put back into canon. Ship classes, tech specs, that sort of thing. They're already doing it.
I expect certain large EU stories might be vaguely recanonized, with substantial changes in detail. There's enough room between ROTJ and TFA, for example, for something like the Thrawn Trilogy to have happened, though of course they'd have to heavily modify it to make it make sense with their new canon. Ditto for the KOTOR/TOTJ stories, though they have a bit more leeway there.
Honestly I just want good stories in Star Wars. The reason I'm so attached to the old EU is that it DOES have good stories. It has fantastic stories. They're outnumbered by a lot of garbage, but they're there. I just want good stories in Star Wars. I'm worried that we won't get them under Disney. That's my main problem with the nu-canon.
>>81879078
It always wasI think saber anon is the worst
>>81879078
>Anyone who posts here has already seen it and knows how to find it
Then why even put it in the list of links, faggot?
>>81879114
From now on, it's out then.
>>81879130
Well you're 1/3rd the way to making a decent general.
>Rewatching old playthroughs of EP1 Racer
>That results screen jingle
Jesus fuck, this takes me back. It's also stuck in my head, but whatever.
>>81879037
It's all good, anon. Talk some Star Wars with us. Plenty of Legends were comics and even cartoons. All are welcome.
With that pic, I wonder what they'll do with that lady who is "cloud computing" with probe droids. She seems to be the least offensive so far and I believe Vader has used her in the past. As the least assuming she might end up as the most dangerous. Or not. Didn't Vader say they were all fleeing with their master? Hell, Cylo is probably already in Palpatine's chambers when Vader called him up on the holophone.
This is really the worst general on /co/
Look how butthurt you idiots get over an OP
>>81879184
>Legends
You people are scum. Only Disney matters now. They're going to make Star Wars great again.
>>81879231
Maybe if the OP was better the general would be better.
>>81879174
I loved that game. I can't remember that jingle at all.
It hurts.
>>81879259
Disney has yet to give us a great Star Wars story. A GREAT one. I'm not holding my breath.
>>81879282
It's Watto humming/scatting the Cantina Band.
>>81879281
>this is what cancer posters actually believe
>>81879281
You can't be this stupid.
>>81879174
Is that game worth playing if you have no nostalgia goggles?
I have an urge to go fast.
>>81879325
Nothing. I'm gunna try to find a link.
>>81879333
>Says the cancer poster
>>81879281
We're being baited, anon. Don't feed it (you)s and it will soon starve.
>>81879322
>A GREAT one
Are you BLIND?
>>81879342
>>81879366
>>81879355
Stop trying to derail the thread with your samefaggotry.
>>81879259
We need to build a wall to keep all Legends out
>>81879422
Yeah, this
Can we stop fighting and talk about cartoons? Please?
>EU fans
This is what they look like. Do not be like these people.
>>81879513
>Nucanon fag thinks he's any better
>>81879449
I don't know, Hux strikes me as a Thrawn fan. I bet he has posters on his wall and his feud with Kylo Ren started on the day when a red lightsaber ripped through bulkhead and poster during yet another Kylo freakout.
>>81879540
EU babby detected
Which one of these edgelords is (you)?
>>81879112
>I think saber anon is the worst
Am I really that bad? I don't do anything unless people ask, and then people post a shit-ton, so obviously there's an interest in it.
You're in the cantina and suddenly this guy comes up and promises to save your waifu.
What do?
>>81879572It clogs up the thread, I still love you tho.
>>81879572
It's fanfic tier and retarded.
>>81879037
Who's that Trandoshan cutie?
>>81879605
Ask him how he knows the force?
>>81879612
Fair.
>>81879613
Quit being a bitch.
>>81879652
>Quit being a bitch.
No you.
>>81879569
>EU fans
Disgusting, the whole lot of them.
>>81879605
Order him a drink and then ask him if his son is even old enough for the place.
>>81879673
I-I'll b-be your bitch, m-my mistress.
>>81879572
I personally like it, at least someone here knows what the fuck they're talking about. I mean it's certainly better than the /co/ vs. /tv/ shitposting, waifuposting, and constant PT vs. OT vs. ST shitposting.
I love talking about Star Wars and peoples ideas and assumptions even based on little things like lightsaber hilts, robe designs, their personal characters, not sitting around just shitposting constantly, I stopped caring about that 10 years ago when I was 15 and on /b/.
So you're welcome to stay in my book, can't speak for anybody else though.
>>81879704
You need professional help, son.
>>81879734
Are you a professional?
>>81879449
I want to fuck Hux's beautiful pouty blowjob lips
>>81879704
Would you let her put your dick in chastity and twist your nipples until you dry cum?
>>81879349
It's pretty fun for a racing game, and one of the better uses of the Star Wars license. Good variety of courses and characters. Downsides would have to be the cutscenes (which show their age) and having to put up with Jake Loyd dialogue.
>nostalgia goggles
Welp, there went my opinion.
>>81879350
Best I could find is at the 4:33 mark here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93TOtPdtElo
>>81879756
Dude.
>>81879612
It definitely does, and so many get posted that I end up spending a long time trying to get through them all.
>>81879613
Not disagreeing, but lots of people want it. 43 sabers got posted last thread, and the one before that had 82. Also you want some reaction images? I have a lot of SW related ones, and I'm tired of seeing Han's face every thread.
>>81879715
Thanks dude, I enjoy the creative element it brings to the threads too.
>>81879791
>I'm tired of seeing Han's face every thread.It's always me
>>81879756
Yes.
Please list more depraved things she can do to me.
>>81879791I had to, sorry.
>>81879791
>I'm tired of seeing Han's face every thread.
>>81879784
>>81879784
>Dude.
Fair enough. But would you let her bind you, hang you from a sex swing and let her spitroast you with her strapon and Fifth Brother?
You get to pick who fucks you where.
>>81879845
DUDE.
>>81879845
DUDE.
>>81879845
I'd like her in front please.
I'm not one for alien dongs.
>>81879791
Here is some nice art I saved on a 4chan thread ages ago, don't remember where though (yes I'm aware there is a shitty ass 9gag thing beside it).
>>81879809
>>81879834
>>81879839
Lets get someKit Fistoshit eating grins going.
>>81879839
>>81879834
>>81879809
fuckin kek
>>81879917
Turns out I have the non watermarked version floating around my hard drive, but thanks man.
>>81879917
But Fisto scares me
>>81879917
>>81879992
Nah thank you, I haven't bothered to go looking for this pic, but it's definitely a lot better than the shit one I have.
Also am I the only person in this thread that really wants to see a Selkath Jedi or Sith?
>>81879977
>>81880065
Good job trooper.
>>81879977
>>81880065
>>81879449
WE WILL MAKE THE GALAXY GREAT AGAIN
Never forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfQ416FwSgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyiYl7h2Q70
>>81880138
We're supposed to get real soundtracks soon. Can't come too son as far as I'm concerned.
>>81880131I don't think that vulgar stuff is allowed here
>>81880131
>>81879845
Well. I'll be in my bunk.
Or /aco/ more likely.
>>81880214
Agreed, those two tracks and the Lasat Journey are fantastic. I'd love to see more violins in Star Wars.
>>81880225Why are you browsing 4chan at work in the first place?
>>81880242
I hope they include the trailer music, though that's probably regular music suitably recut. I'm really looking forward to Ahsoka's Fate since I missed it first time around. The parts you can hear in the trailer are awesome.
>>81880266I'm not, just don't want you to get banned
>>81880278
If there is one thing you can always count on it's a Star Wars OST, granted TFA's was very lax and a fault of production time and release date and how JJ Abrams handed it off, so that was just a mess all around.
>>81880225
Crude jokes and foul language are fine, I think they draw the line at RPing pornographic fanfics. Some things are a bit too saucy for blue boards.
>>81880323
At any given time, there can be a muscle girl thread, big tit thread, and a giantess thread on /co/ at the same time.
>>81880318
Kiner has been gracious enough to make a lot of that freely available on his website and soundcloud, so at least there is that. Not sure how freely they'll let him do that after he posted Ahsoka's Fate early! I think the track was fine since it was mostly in the trailer, but the name was too much.
You guys can be any race in Star Wars and be any profession. Rakatan, Wookie, Trandoshan, Human, Dathormirian. Pod Racer, Jedi, Senator, Trooper, Bounty Hunter, etc.
What do you guys pick?
>>81880373
This is not quality discussion.
>>81880373
Human. Slave owner.
>>81880369
To be fair, after that trailer we all expected what was going to happen.
>>81880385
Then make it one, explain why you'd choose what you do, it's not that hard. There has to be reasons within the Star Wars universe you'd choose what you would.
>>81880397
Like this guy, he probably chose it because he wants waifus, but he doesn't want to be a Hutt and be a big ass slug.
>>81880373
>>81880397
Mirialan. Also slave owner.
So how is Yoda going to explain pretty much ruining all their lives to Ezra?
>>81880358
Yes, but if you post anything in those threads not blue board safe and it gets reported or otherwise noticed by a mod or janitor it can get cleaned up.
>>81880404
Before then we were expecting it. Filoni's attempts to say, "They don't NEED to fight" didn't dissuade anyone. It's interesting the flurry of discussion that one music title caused here and elsewhere on the net.
>>81878744
why do people have a problem with the Ackbar/Grievious mashup?
>>81880454
Crazy dagobah dark side has made me, force strong in galaxy it is.
>>81880431
>he probably chose it because he wants waifus, but he doesn't want to be a Hutt and be a big ass slug.
How'd you know?
>>81880464
It's fucking stupid.
>>81880454
>"Happens, shit does. Tough break, kid."
>>81880464
Mon Calamari are stupid.
>>81880481
Pretty obvious honestly. Not many people would willingly decide to be a slave owner without the desperate need for the love and affection of a waifu.
Not when you can be a Tusken Raider Pod Racer or something else random.
>>81880464
It's really hard to take seriously
>>81880451
I can't find the source for this
can someone post some sw related reaction images? i got a folder to build up.
>>81880511
>without the desperate need for the love and affection of a waifu.
Words hurt, man.
>>81880451
>every fanart always draws tits way bigger than what they actually are
I get liking tits and all and wanting to draw your fetish, but at least make it accurate to the character, that bothers me so bad.
>>81880514
>It's really hard to take seriously
>>81880454
My fault, it was not
chill the fuck out, you should
Crying like a bitch, fix it, it will not
>>81880535
You got it.
>>81880540
Yes, but the truth is the truth anon. It hurts me too, but it must be dealt with and crushed. Learn to let go of those you fear to lose, and of things you fear to never have.
>>81880520
Check our /aco/ counterpart.
>>81880482
Something I really hate about these comics is whenever a non-jedi exclusive saber shows up its drawn extremely generic. Takes me out of the universe.
Also, can someone remind me? Where does this guy even get the Lightsabers? Surely they weren't made specifically for him
>>81880561
Oh, sorry, did we upset you by not liking Ackbar Grievous?
>>81880596
>Surely they weren't made specifically for him
They weren't made for him.He made them.
>>81880626
Hes no Jedi. And if I remember correctly he isn't even force sensitive.
Where would he find 4 fucking kyber crystals?
>>81880618
No, I'm glad you don't like him. He's total garbage. But there isn't much in Star Wars any adult should take too seriously.
>>81880653
>Where would he find 4 fucking kyber crystals?
A treasure hunter on Dantooine or a junk dealer on Nar Shadda?
>>81880653
Moraband Caves.
>>81880596
maybe from the thousands of lightsabers in imperial impound?
>>81880653
I imagine Palpatine has a supply of them somewhere.
All this saber talk makes me wonder, what did the empire do with this guy?
Kotor2 scrub here
Which of the faggots is easiest to take down first?
>>81880788
Kept him around to design new sabers, most likely.
>>81880792
The bald one
>>81880788
The usual joke is that he'spolishing sabers in Sheev's personal harem
>>81880792
>take down
We've got an edgelord over here.
Gonna pretend to be a badass Sith while playing your favorite Linkin Park song?
>>81880788
Reprogrammed him to want to polish Palpatine's 'saber'.
>>81880788
Blasted him to bits, assuming they ever found him. He could have just gone into hiding with his ship and put himself into standby mode waiting for the Jedi to find him.
>>81880845
You're saying you don't want to take down the horribly corrupt jedi order?
>>81880225
>I don't think that vulgar stuff is allowed here
Yet you love it.
>>81880788
Sheev just never got around to telling him the Jedi are dead, he sends groups of young Inquisitors-to-be on trips to make their bright red lightsabers ("It's just 'in' this year.".
Sometimes he even paints Vader green and has him act like Yoda.
>>81880860
His ship got wrecked, though. Last we saw it, Hondo was selling parts of it for scrap.
Though I guess they probably just put him on a new ship.
>>81880881
I'm saying I want to save the galaxy, not destroy it, you fucking teenager.
>>81880860
No way Sheev would just waste him. He'd set him up as Scheherazade in his personal harem making him tell stories of Jedi of old, especially Yoda as a youngling.
>>81880926
>Confusing destroying with maintaining order
>>81878969
I love how your reaction image is from arguably the most cancerous panel of marvel's new comic line.
>>81880929
>"Tell me again..."
>"Tell me the legend of the time Yoda lost his virginity by accident."
>>81881002
How do you do that by accident?
>>81881016
>"It was a dark and cold night, and young Master Yoda had never heard of a dianoga before..."
>>81880992
>Marvel's new comic line
>cancerous
Pick one, EUbabby and go cry to your WOOK
>>81880565
>Someone make this line canon
>>81878874
If only it werent the case.
>>81880788
Best case scenario, he landed on Dagobah and deactivated himself.
Bad end, blasted to pieces.
>>81880845
>he didn't absorb master's powers to become super Sith
>>81880818
I did that and he rekt my shit
>>81881057
>defending non-force users wielding lightsabers
>implying the new marvel comics don't have issues
>jumping to conclusions and assuming that I think the new line of marvel comics are bad
We got a wild one bois, somebody help me out with this faggot
>>81881016
I assume he was trying one of those spinning attacks like he used on Dooku and accidentally landed with a hole in one (snerk snerk) on a training saber.
>>81881134
>Defending non-force users wielding lightsabers
>I have literally never seen a star wars movie
>>81881134
>>81881057
That panel makes it look like Vader replaced his normal lenses with ones off of sunglasses
>>81881134
>Let us not forget Han used a Lightsaber and nobody said anything
>>81879390
FUCKING KEK
>>81881134
>>81881187
I want to see an entire series about Thrawn with Luke and maybe Mara as supporting characters.
I don't even like the old continuity. I just really think that these are the characters that really deserve it.
>>81881229
I've never been a huge fan of Mara Jade as a character necessarily, but I really loved her for Luke. Literally perfect waifu. post-RotJ Luke without her feels wrong to me.
>>81881187
>>81881220
I can play too!
>>81881172
>>81881187
>>81881195
Han's using the saber in episode 5 is different simply because he wasn't actually trying to fight anyone with it. Cutting open a Tauntaun is different from running around with a lightsaber and trying to actually fight with it. It pissed me off in TFA when Finn did it and it pisses me off here. Now do you have any actual arguments?
>>81881279
>bu-but its different!!!
No it's not.
>>81881220
>>81881336
Okay, I'm willing to admit that I made an error in saying that non-force users are completely unable to wield a lightsaber. With the right training and under the right circumstances it is entirely possible to wield a lightsaber in combat effectively. Mind you, the training I'm talking about takes years of dedication.
>>81881336
You're god damn right it's different. You can't honestly tell me that cutting an animal open and fighting someone with a lightsaber isn't different. Come on man, that's some next level autism.
>>81881279
Why is there an issue with a non force user weilding a lightsaber?
>>81881502
I'm glad you asked anon. A lightsaber's weightless you see, as the beam is made of plasma, subsequently making it rather unwieldy. The force is the only thing keeping jedi from the not cutting themselves in the heat of battle. But as I said earlier, it's not entirely impossible for a non-force user to wield one in combat so long as they have adequate training.
>>81881378
No anyone who has even the most basic idea of how to hit something with a thing in your hand could wield a lightsaber. It would be dangerous to them if they accidentally nicked themself, it would be completely useless against an even nominally skilled fighter with a lightsaber of their own, and it would be useless at blocking blasters and shit.
But if im in a room with five dudes who wanna beat my ass and i pick up a fucking lightsaber...theyre all gonna die and i'll probably be fine. No force or training necessary.
>>81881378
I don't have the scan at hand, but in one book was a crosssection of his head with a brain implant highlighted that was a "memory upgrade containing jedi techniques" or something. Whether that mashes well with Dooku training him is another matter.
>>81881633
*his
I meant Grievous.
>>81881574
You'd be fine for a swing or two maybe, sure. But in a prolonged fight to say that the most you'd get away with would be nothing more than a "nick" is nothing but wishful. I have a quote I saved from a previous thread that I hope will finally bring this argument to and end and shed some light on the conversation:
Anyone familiar with fencing or swordplay knows that the weight of the handle and blade, and thus the overall balance of the weapon, is critically important while fighting. A sword that is too blade-heavy is unwieldy; it is difficult to start, stop, and change the path of the blade as it's swung, which is vital to outmaneuvering your opponent in a duel. Conversely, a sword with too light a blade (equivalently, too heavy a hilt) is too easy to swing around. it's hard to "feel" where the blade is, and thus to make the minute changes needed to block a blow or land one. It can also be just as exhausting, in a different way, to wield such a sword; because most of the mass is behind your hand, it takes muscle power to point the blade forward instead of upward, while a balanced weapon would point directly forward from the user's hands. You also get no mechanical advantage while swinging it.
Obviously, out-of-universe the props were full "swords" that were then rotoscoped to paint the beam blade over the white wooden (later plastic) dowel that protruded from the saber. This gives the actual prop used by the actors a more realistic weight and balance, which can be seen in the duels (Darth Maul has to heave a bit to get that double-saber staff moving, and you can see the effort behind a full baseball swing of the sword by Luke or Vader in the original trilogy).
>>81881658
Thanks for the assistance and all anon, but unless that scan is from a currently canon comic it doesn't do much for us.
>>81881566
Not really seeing the problem. It's not like Han, Chewie and Leia were dueling another lightsaber wielder. Han even points out that he's completely uncomfortable with using one in that issue.
>>81881693
>he thinks actual swordplay rules apply in Star Wars
>>81881764
>he thinks star wars has rules
>>81881693
Heres the thing. the thing being argued is stemming from a picture of han holding a lightsaber.
the reply to it was that it was the most cancerous panel of the marvel star wars comic line. and then that it is silly defending non force users wielding lightsabers.
Well in this situation it isn't han deciding to take up the lightsaber over some prolonged period of time in lieu of his blaster. Him chewie and leia have no blasters...so they rock some lightsabers. It presents a danger to themself, but the danger of enemy troops trying to kill or capture you is greater than that of you accidentally killing yourself with a lightsaber.
It's silly to take issue with this particular image and call it the most cancerous thing of the line when in context it makes perfect fucking sense for them to do this shit.
except chewie who could just rip the stormtroopers apart quite honestly.
But people still take HUGE issue with it because they can't deal with something that doesn't fit with a concept pushed by EU logic (only force users can wield a lightsaber).
>>81881764
I can't tell if you're just shitposting or being genuinely being serious. I'm trying to have a semi-serious conversation here pal, if you wanna be an annoying faggot the piss of to /tv/.
>>81881378
luke picked it up in an afternoon
>>81880373
Kaleesh jedi, easy.
>>81881830
I'm being serious. What you see on-screen has nothing to do with real swordplay. Trying to apply actual swordfighting knowledge to it doesn't work. As it is, you're trying to come up with a rational explanation for why someone without the Force shouldn't be able to use a weapon that already exists outside of rational explanations. Even the "the lightsaber is weightless" argument has no meaning because even though logically we would assume that the only weight the blade has is the weight of the hilt itself, we've never seen the lack of weight be a problem for anyone, even inexperienced users.
So basically you're overthinking this and getting upset that a fictional universe doesn't match up with explanations you're trying to force on it. You're a step away from "but there's no sound in space!"
>>81881796
Thank you for being reasonable in your response anon. I understand that using the lightsabers was their only out , I'm just upset over the fact that none of them suffered any injuries as a result of their actions. Just to clear something up though, were the troopers that han and co. were up against also subject to that EMP?
>>81881867
Xalek would be the worst Jedi.
>>81881907
>I'm just upset over the fact that none of them suffered any injuries as a result of their actions.
This is some next level autism here.
>>81881830
>obsessing over the exact usage of an imaginairy weapon
>semi-serious conversation
>>81881931
That's not Xalek. There's multiple kaleesh in the game apparently. I wouldn't know, I barely played the game.
>>81880818
They're both bald. That's too general to distinguish which specific one you're referring to
>>81881566
>weightless
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightsaber
>>81881901
but ok
>>81881901
>Even the "the lightsaber is weightless" argument has no meaning because even though logically we would assume that the only weight the blade has is the weight of the hilt itself, we've never seen the lack of weight be a problem for anyone, even inexperienced users.
Hell, I think even the EU came up with some weird explanation for why the lightsaber feels like it has weight. So even then, the weightlessness was a non-issue.
>>81881907
>I'm just upset over the fact that none of them suffered any injuries as a result of their actions.
If you ask me them not being injured themself is consistent with the kind of fantasy typical of star wars. why is it them having lightsabers in their hands means they should suddenly be at the behest of real world logic and circumstance?
Do you feel the death star scene in the a new hope where theyre running away from all those stormtroopers as theyre fired upon with blasters is 'the most cancerous thing in the star wars movies' because logically trained soldiers would be able to hit them at least a couple of times?
I mean honestly, honestly consider why this one thing bothers you...when other instances of unrealistic shit happening might not.
I can't see any reason for this really being so bothersome because of real world logic which nobody has a problem with not applying to the rest of this universe except the EU stand by that makes it taboo for anyone who doesn't have the force to so much as swing a lightsaber.
>>81881972
I'd wonder why that Jedi is wearing then the exact same mask with markings as Xalek, but expecting anything from SWTOR is like expecting Sheev becoming a Jedi.
>>81881961
Ooooooh my bad buddy. I see your a big boy who's got it all figured out then eh? Why even bother with a basement dweller such as myself if what I'm doing seem so childish?
>>81881983
The actual blade is made of plasma buddy.
Pike masterrace reporting in, the staff gives me enough weight and keeps the painful end away from me.
>>81882045
>>81881901
At least the both of you were bringing real arguments to the table. While I would love to argue over this for a wee bit longer, I have work tomorrow. It was a pleasure, see you all in the next thread.
>>81878744
>>81878874
>no Thrawn
Are the prequels still canon? They are? Then fuck this shit.
Oh I got dubs, SWEET!
>>81882073
Fucking brilliant.
I hope saberanon shows up again.
>>81882137
Instead of bitching about sabers maybe we'd show off our own.
>>81882137
This takes me back when I found a Stargate/Star Wars crossover where the Jedi were benign Goa'Uld living in their clone hosts and giving them force powers.
>>81882095
Well if it makes you feel better theyre canon but pretty much ignored.
>>81882192
>pretty much ignored
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>81882137
I'm here, but it's late. What's up?
Friendly reminder there is a lightwhip.
>>81882203
explain?
As far as I know there are almost NO references to the prequels and if you have never seen a single one of them essentially nothing in episode 7 makes any less sense. I can't think of a single fucking callback to the prequels with two exceptions and neither don't work without the prequels.
1: the first line of the force awakens. Which is possibly an actual fucking DIG at the prequels.
2: the possibility snoke is in fact darth plageus which is referenced in a story in episode 3 obviously.
But besides that I can't think of anything from the prequels really referenced in the new movie so how are they not ignored?
>>81882227
If i saw someone with that id just walk away.
Not because it was that much of a danger to me. but simply because i'm not gonna fuck with anyone so goddamn suicidal they would lay hands on one of those goddamn things.
It'd be like walking into a cramped room and a guy in there says 'lets fight' and pulls the pin out of a fucking grenade hes holding.
No thank you, you aren't taking me down with you.
>going through CGI clone wars cartoon
Jesus christ its so weird to see clones taking orders from Asoka. Tiny orange loli ordering around trained professionals.
The whole "Jedis being generals" in the Republic just feels strange.
I do like how those big republic ships have the same bridge as the empires star destroyers. Dat ship evolution.
>>81882246
That's because JJ deliberately ignored the prequels in favor for OT.
>>81882246
In Episode 7
Hux mentions a Clone army.
Maz's castle has tons of flags from different things, among them Hondo Ohnaka's pirate gang, Podracer flags from TPM
All of the new canon so far has been using the prequels/TCW, referencing stuff, etc.
>>81882267
Best observation of the light whip I've seen in a while. A weapon of pure suicidal intimidation. Works for me
>>81882272
She's older than the clones, it's one teenager ordering around others with more death mix in.
>>81882272
if the jedi defeated the clones after order 66, do you think they would have seized power to ensure their survival, like what Palpatine convinced everyone was going to happen without it?
>>81882289
Yeah maz's flag easter egg and a reference to the clone army (when the clone wars are mentioned in the original trilogy anyway) notwithstanding i stand by my 'pretty much ignored' statement.
The fact that theyre canon doesn't effect the new movies in any real way. Although I'm coming from the position of someone who gives no shits about the cartoons or any of that shit. So I figure Rebels might reference prequel shit which folks might be sore about due to the exclusion of EU stuff.
>>81882306
from my point of view the jedi are evil!
>>81882289
>Hux mentions a Clone army.
Close enough. Kylo Ren snidely says to Hux that Snoke should reconsider using a clone army due to the failure of Hux's Stormtroopers (specifically Finn).
>>81882376
Yes, the Clone Wars were mentioned, but not specifically The Clone Army.
Oh, Maz also namedrops the Sith. They weren't named in the OT.
And it's not just Rebels that has TCW stuff. The new books, comics, etc have all been using the prequels.
>>81882395
I guess due to not being into all that much outside of the movies and a few scant comics Ive never been in the know on what they did reference.
Honestly the only thing im bummed is technically not canon anymore is dash rendar. That guy was fucking gnarly.
People here actually liked EP7 right? Like I keep seeing people saying its awful and prequel tier and other prequel shit posting.
Even on Redlettermedia's video its people acting autistic. Is this a fad now?
>>81882423
Seems like every thread someone asks this. Is it just the same person over and over again?
First off /co/ isn't a hivemind and neither are the threads. The closest you can find to a generalized, non-extremist view is that Episode VII wasn't perfect but serviceable enough. It's STAR WARS. It's hardly like we're going to refuse to watch Episode VIII and XI no matter what quality they were.
>>81882423
Probably, there'll be bandwagon fans and haters for every popular thing. For what it's worth, it rekindled the love of a lot of regular folks for Star Wars, and some might even want to dig deeper. Nothing bad about that.
>>81882246
Flags outside Maz's castle. Several of them are podracer flags from Episode I. One of them is Hondo's flag, from The Clone Wars. One of them is Ziro's emblem, also The Clone Wars.
Also, Kylo Ren floats the idea of a clone army when mocking Hux about Finn's defection. Which is weird, how he's lording it over Hux that this ONE trooper out of however many tens of thousands went rogue, even if Finn is causing a hell of a lot of trouble for a single rogue trooper.
Also, a few lines after the first line of the movie, Lor San Tekka references the need for balance in the Force.
Gigantic, explicit, overt references to the prequels would be very much out of place. In-setting, it's been 53 years since the fall of the Old Republic. That's an awfully long time. Even though the PT was built to interlock with the OT, it still respected that the 19 year gap was so huge that only a few monumentally important events from the PT merited mention in the OT, and exploited that freedom to the fullest. When you tack on another 30 years, it exaggerates this.
Even so, there are a lot of little things here and there. The prequels aren't gone, nor is Disney pretending they are. The upcoming movie Rogue One really has no choice but to reference the prequels directly in some fashion. The upcoming young Han Solo movie in 2018 will also have to acknowledge history to some degree.
>>81882423
It set a good foundation for the future of star wars.
I enjoyed it, I just wish it was a little more daring.
>>81882423
I hated TFA and think the prequels are A) better than TFA and B) signficantly underrated in general.
But yeah, we have TFA lovers, TFA haters, prequel lovers, prequel haters, etc. It takes all kinds.
>>81882423
>RedLetterMedia video
Plinkett fans are basically brain dead at this point. Mike unwillingly made a new generation of snide internet critics who horrifically dissect every movie they watch.
TFA might have some flaws, flaws the original Star Wars suffered from but its nowhere Prequel bad and to imply that makes you autistic.
Just can't wait for the assravage from /tv/ when that Plinkett review comes out and its not the circle jerk they wanted
>>81882423
I liked it, but it wasn't without a few things that bugged me.
The only real solid letdown for me was that the opening was full of shakeycam and Supreme Leader Snoke at this point being Palps 2.0.
Other than that though, I generally found it enjoyable, highlights being Finn and Poe shenanigans (which I want some comics about goddamn).
Not part of TFA but C3PO Red Arm origin gets more tragic whenyou realize they erased his memory of the emotive experience rather than deal with another protocol droid getting PTSD.
>>81882511
but mike actually liked it, why would he annihilate it as plinkett?
hell likely treat it like star trek 09.
>>81882306
If the jedi were able to survive long enough to bring down palpatine and cancel order 66 I believe the only course of action would be a full lock-down of the senate. They might have employed some sort of strange Jedi-esque marshal law for a brief time before ultimately handing power back to the senate. The jedi have only ever wanted to serve the republic as peacekeepers, it wouldn't be in their interest to take permanent control. This is all of course assuming that there even is a way to cancel order 66 asides from the removal of the clone chips.
>>81882526
i meant to say why would his fans and /tv/ think he would annihilate it as plinkett.
>>81882537
The Jedi would have had support from at least some portion of the Senate, but they might be seen as an oligarchy or a partial military coup.
That might have actually revitalized the Separatist faction, although IIRC they were all but gimped at that point.
>>81882306
>if the jedi defeated the clones after order 66, do you think they would have seized power to ensure their survival, like what Palpatine convinced everyone was going to happen without it?
The jedi are already huge assholes trying to control everything during the clone wars.
If there was no order.66 the jedi probably would have become an even worse Empire.
>>81882482
The background stuff is fun. The Alliance really did restore the Republic, complete with Palpatine's Emergency Powers that let Mon Mothma order the New Republic fleets anywhere and kick the Imperial Remnant's ass, but she didn't think that much power belonged in any one person's hands. Return the military to the Senate's control with her just as the head of the Senate, basically a glorified moderator, and the Republic military forces scaled back to ~10%.
Also things like Phasma's silver (chromium) armor is build from salvage from Palpatine's personal Naboo cruiser. A ton of other stuff, up to and including Wedge was recruited by Fulcrum (Rebels era reference but close enough).
>>81882565
Yeah the CIS was all but beaten and the cabal working for palps were on the run. Any insurrection that would have arisen as a result of the changes in the senate would have been swiftly put down.
>>81882597
>Return the military to the Senate's control with her just as the head of the Senate
As politically naive as that is, it's kind of fitting for Star Wars politicians to be awful either intentionally or not. I actually don't mind it, if only we get a scene where Leia just scowls at whoever survives in the Senate and doesn't even say "I told you so."
Speaking of which, the decision to nuke Hosnia on screen but have it be the capital off-screen was kind of weird. I like it in that it indulges in the worst Star Wars instinct I have (EVERYTHING'S GOTTA BACKSTORY), and I hate it in that it feels a little bit unnecessary when you look at it from the perspective of plot criticism.
>>81882522
> that spoiler
I-i think he might have a better status than the average droid since he's a war general/veteran and all?
>>81882538
Because they're mongoloids who assume Mike is unable of making a positive coherent review as Plinkett
>>81882526
because Mike and Plinkett are two different characters?
besides, TFA deserves some bashing to be honest
>>81882720
Honestly I'm kind of waiting for Threepio to go all "War never changes" by this point.
>>81882289
Shut up.
>>81882745
I'm fairly certain Artoo would be closer to make that kind of statement, no wonder he had Standby-mode Depression for like 15 years.
>>81882653
I dont't see it as especially naive. After all they just fought a massive civil war to defeat the dictatorship of the Emperor and are still mopping it up after his death. They don't want another powermad asshole getting in and suddenly he doesn't need Jar Jar to assume military control.
Besides she made sure to set it up so individual worlds can raise their own defensive armies. She doesn't want them reliant on the Republic for everything, and cutting back the military means if a huge threat looms, like say some kind of First Order, the individual armies can unite in another Alliance.
Rotating the capital also makes perfect sense. They don't want the New Republic consolidating power in the Core anymore. A rotating capital helps free up some of their politics from local corruption.
>>81882289
also TFA mentions the balance of the Force
>>81882482
Now, it's true that it does kind of FEEL like Disney is ignoring the prequel era right now. Here's why.
What's actually happening right now is that the OT's EU is growing at a massive rate to catch up after the wipe. The canon wipe meant that the PT era was three movies plus TCW, while the OT era was just three movies.
TCW is HUGE. 121 episodes, plus the story reels and Son of Dathomir. We're still getting new prequel-era content, too, like Obi-Wan & Anakin, or the Kanan comic. I'd count Lords of the Sith and Tarkin, too. It's just that the prequel era has slowed to a trickle, while the OT era is drinking from a fire hose to catch up now.
The ST era also needs a big share of attention too. It'll probably speed up massively once VIII is released, while this torrent of OT EU will likely slow down. Then, after IX, once the OT era and ST era are suitably large, the PT era will probably get another turn for some rapid expansion, until a new trilogy starts up.
>>81882289
There are also a pod-racer engine on Jakku, the speeder Rey has has parts of a pod-racer engine on it, there is the entire force vision beginning with the murder of the younglings. Phasma's armor is based on the Naboo ships melted down, particular one of Palpatine's (which knowing he was from Naboo is a PT only thing).
They don't do a lot of pandering to the PT just because it's been so long since The Clone Wars and such, but it is there. Hell one of the flags's at Maz's place is a reference to Sabine as well. I mean that's Rebels and all and not the PT, but there are tons of easter eggs and references all over the damn place.
>>81882777
How old is he, about 60-ish? That's not really that old for a droid.
>>81882779
Breaking up the solidarity of the Rebel Alliance was a pretty bad move, IMO. While the intent was to do away with a dictatorship, the Alliance clearly lacked the administrative capacity to police their own Senate.
They ended up creating less of a Republic and more of a confederation, each segment gained more autonomy and a less centralized power source. There's nothing wrong with this in concept, it's just that in the SW galaxy the moment somebody gets a tinesy bit of freedom they become comically corrupt, to the point where the Senate was compromised and unable to recognize the First Order threat.
Also a rotating capital exchanges centralized power blocs for alternating sets of regional power blocs. I don't know how the capital is decided, but undoubtedly the system appointed exercises some sway.
>>81882863
He's at the very least 66, likely older considering he seems to have been around for some time before TPM.
>>81882777
I'd assume R2-D2 was shut down to prevent the map from being found more than anything.
>>81882863
The amount of years is thickened with the events that take place in them, and if you consider his life of service in CW+ ROTS, the spionage in Rebels and the events of the OT, the build-up of the new Jedi Order only to see it torn down again... that's different than being a loyal GNK for 200 years.
>>81882894
I don't wanna start another argument here but I favor the Robodepression. What kind of fail-safe conditions did Luke install so R2 would wake up again?
>>81882885
>They ended up creating less of a Republic and more of a confederation
Because that's exactly what they are. The Empire and the remnants that became the First Order are the Republic, they are the path the real Republic went down, whether that's a bad thing or not doesn't matter, they had all the surplus of money, they had the technology, they had basically everything. When the Empire fell all they had to do was scrounge it all hope and escape to the Unknown Reaches and rebuild, after 30 years, definitely possible. While the Rebels for what they were worth were the equivalent to the CIS trying to establish their own Government, treaties, trade organizations, etc. The same would have happened had the CIS won The Clone Wars, it'd have been a messy Confederacy at best while the Republic has massive fleets and power still from what was left over that was scrounged up.
As for why they didn't want to recognize the First Order as a threat, they likely just didn't want to get involved in another war, especially with them trying to re-establish the Republic how it was before the Imperial Founding. I think it's less about being incompetent and more so they know they couldn't win head to head, not without Luke Skywalker and stuff and at the time the First Order was probably just making nameless threats while they built in secret.
The capital was decided if I recall from the TFA databook was because Coruscant had a lot of bad blood and they didn't want to relive the past with how the Empire was founded, the Jedi Purge, the entire Senate corruption, and all the shit of the Old Republic too.
>>81882961
>I don't wanna start another argument here but I favor the Robodepression. What kind of fail-safe conditions did Luke install so R2 would wake up again?
Oh droidepression is all good, that's just my personal theory on it at least. I assume it was more of a fail-safe that he'd re-power after so long. I think the canon explanation was that he was close to the other section of the map with BB-8, which doesn't make sense since he should have woken up earlier, but whatever. I just personally assume he had a timer on him after so long.
>>81882969
> were the equivalent to the CIS trying to establish their own Government, treaties, trade organizations, etc.
The CIS were always co-opted by an oligarchy of cooperate powers, their democratic or federated systems were effectively controlled on two levels by both major corporate and financial entities like the Trade Federation (who took advantage of opportunity to play the war for monetary gains) and on a higher level by the Sith.
The majority of the CIS's military hierarchy were tied to droid production, it's unlikely that there would have been a similar fragmentation of authority had the CIS won, but there might instead have been a concentration/conglomerate authority of independent parties working in tandem.
In other words, the CIS seemed primed to produce to hegemony, not a confederacy.
>>81882961
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