Where is the line drawn when it comes to referencing something?
Why is it we cringe at something like PPGeboot straight up using the NO meme, yet we love something like Genie spouting a bunch of movie and pop culture references?
>>81875798
Because it's about execution.
Genie's Execution of his references are fast and not the point of the scene though they are nice.
>>81875798
Because Genie was a new character to audiences back in the day, not a stablished character being ruined by lazy writing.
>NO meme
Which one is this?
>>81875871
Definitely this.
There's no line to be crossed, it's all about the quality of the actual reference/joke itself.
>>81875871
this. and he has an in-universe excuse. he's explicitly a time-traveler. Merlin had the same excuse
fucking mushu does not have that excuse. nor do any of the other dumbass popculture sidekick characters
>>81876772
this bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8wOE7J8G1U
>>81875798
Genie did it when we were little kids and we didn't even know what he was referencing and the PPGreboot is recent. For a lot of people that really is the distinguishing factor.
>>81878246
>GOOSTAH
I've been saying it wrong this whole time?
>>81878246
What happened to Bubbles's voice? Is that not Tara Strong?
>>81875798
Because 4chan gets way more autistic about "internet culture" than regular pop culture, either because they know more about it or because they identify with it more.
I can't really think of one piece of media that has referenced memes that got a positive consensus around here.
>>81881218
That period where Giant Enemy Crab popped up in other video games after that one Sony E3 performance?
>>81881121
Nah, new voice actors.
>>81881284
But why?
>>81881350
Cheaper and target audience doesn't care.
>>81881284
Literally no reason, they didn't even ask the old VAs. They're pretty pissed about it too. Kinda ironic that a show that's trying to push this feminist message gave all the men their old jobs back but doesn't give two shits about the women
>>81882875
meant for
>>81881350
>>81882875
Feminism has never benefited women.
One has INTERNET REFERENCES, while Genie was IRL shit, or like another anon pointed out, pop culture. Leave the Internet "humor" on the Internet, not in the cartoons and other media (video games or television shows or newspapers) or outside the Internet. It is also bad when Internet memes get wide spread to other websites instead of just staying on one or two websites.
>>81875798
Part of it is simple datedness. Most of the people the Genie referenced are fairly timeless (Jack Nicholson) or have mannerisms that are inherently funny. Plus, it just adds to the surrealness of the character that he's constantly swapping between personalities - the fact that one of those personalities is Rodney Dangerfield isn't exactly a stretch.
Internet culture, on the other hand, has a very quick turnover rate. Even the most resilient memes tend to break down after a few months. That's really just the nature of memes - a meme is a joke, and once you've heard sixteen different variants of that joke, you never want to hear it again. And by the time that joke has hit mainstream television, it's pretty much fossilized. It's like your mom listening to those songs you bought in your grunge phase to try to connect to you.
As an example of how to do it well, check out We Bare Bears - they had an episode focusing on memes, but they focused more on the culture of memes and how it's essentially just luck which ones catch on, and they almost avoided bringing up real ones. Or for an example of referential humor done well, look at old episodes of The Simpsons - they did parodies of countless films, but they were always fairly old, classic films that people knew then and know now.
>>81875798
Referential humor in general is cancer.
But it's more tolerable the older the reference is.
>>81882899
This desu.
Though I'll qualify that by saying on the whole, it hasn't. There are a few square pegs that do better underegalitarianismthan a more traditional societal role; I've known one or two that break the mold.
But by and large, feminism is like when a kid throws a tantrum about parents being tyrants and runs away from home, only to come back after realizing it has no idea how to take care of itself.
Except feminism is worse because of white knights, so the kid runs away and other people in the neighborhood start taking care of him and calling the parents evil for not letting him eat ice cream for dinner or some shit.
>>81875798
Memes are like the internets in-jokes, and people feel like they have a certain ownership over them. So when they turn up in shows or movies it feels like someone uninvited trying to get in on the joke.
