The Killing Joke has an R-rating. The soggy knees win.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/14/batman-killing-joke-animated-rated-r
They could have absolutely gotten away with a PG-13 rating on this one, but I think it's best to keep kids away from it and this sends the message that the subject matter is not to be taken lightly.
Everyone should be happy with the result, except those dumb parents that think their kids need to be able to see everything with a cape.
Gods and Monsters should have been R too. It was violent as shit. I don't understand the MPAA.
>>81835798
Well Batman is no longer for kids
don't think I want to watch this and get triggered
So? Why does it matter?
>>81836267
It doesn't really unless OP thinks kids regularly go to stores to buy DVDs.
>>81836229
Bribery. That's literally all there is to it. Studios pay for the rating they want.
>>81835798
>Lela
SJW name if I ever heard one
>>81836229
Blood and violence is A-ok in America. TKJ got a R for nudity because of Barbra and maybe seeing a shadow of Gordon's wang
>>81835798
I think the funniest part of the Albequerque cover fiasco and ensuing "Killing Joke is actually terrible" backlash is that he got main art duties on Batgirl
>>81835798
Good. Fuck SJWs
>>81836229
blood and gore<<<<<<<<<<<<<nudity in Ameica
>>81836506
You realize the story was written by one of the most infamous sjws in comics. He dodged a lawsuit for swampthing because he defended gay rights in it.
>>81836646
Alan Mooooooore is an old-school 80s progressive in line with Gaiman, Miller, and Morrison, not a modern SJW
>>81836646
Dude is second only to Frank Miller in jamming rape into every story. He may be a progressive liberal on some issues but he's by no means SJW.
>>81836646
Alan Moore is not a modern SJW. His comics are full of rape. No modern SJW would support that.
>>81836584
This reminds me of those angel-corpses in the first season of Hannibal. When the director showed the naked, mutilated bodies to the producers they asked if he could cover up their butts with more blood, otherwise they'd have to censor the scene or something
>>81836917
Yep. Sounds like America.
>>81835798
the fucks their damage?
>>81835798
Amusing rating because you'd think Killing Joke would play best to edgy teens. 16 is kinda the ideal age for it because you'll think it's deep.
>>81836434
That is fucking funny
>>81836313
Lela is slang for lesbian in my country.
That thing is a woman, right?
>>81837219
Who even knows anymore. I mean, it is [the current year].
>>81836917
I honestly was kind of stunned at what they got away with on Hannibal
>>81837006
Fucking idiots think that the Joker raped Batgirl in Killing Joke, despite no evidence that he did. This is in addition to the whole "girls in refrigerators" thing.
>>81835798
Not seeing the problem here.
>>81835798
Well thank God for that.
>>81838852
even if she was whats the problem?
it is a prevelant issue
A story about how Joker crippled Barbara and raped Jim is getting an R Rating. Color me surprised.
>>81838222
I loved that show so much man, it was just unreal. The Violin Corpse, the turduken corpse, the mural of the eye.
It was gorgeously macabe. That said, TKJ can be R as far as I am concerned, it's a dark tale dealing in harsh subject matter. They better not fuck it up is all, especially Joker's origin.
>>81835798
It's a movie where the Joker tries to drive Commissioner Gordon insane by crippling his daughter, what part about that screams PG-13 to you?
>>81841306
The part where it's within reason to think they might've toned down the depiction to get a PG-13 rating, due to the extensive history of that very thing happened, especially when it comes to animated works.
>>81838852
OK I'm going to read the killing joke tonight and see if I can work out how the hell they came to that conclusion
>>81842039
Oh wait you said joker raped him not Batman slightly more understandable but still not something I would expect from the joker
>>81842039
To them, any kind of sexual harassment is the same as rape. That's all.
Killing Joke is like the Seinfeld of Batman comics
A young comic reader might not even appreciate it. On its own, it seems pedestrian. cliched even. nothing really stand-out about it. you have to appreciate how it was something very fresh and different when it first came out, and basically set the tone for batman/joker comics for the next 20 years.
IMO there are some good bits, like the joke at the end, but I do feel that it never should have been canon. And I don't understand why Batman "lore" has been chained to it for years. There's always some outrage about "X contradicts the Killing Joke" or "How dare they retcon the Killing Joke?!"
It's a good story but fucking christ, why why why why WHY did DC think it was a good idea to include in the New52 canon. The "5 years" thing was retarded enough as is, but they somehow had Barbara crippled and then healed within that time frame.
It should be held up like the Dark Knight Returns, but DC shouldn't bending over backwards to cram it into continuity
just my 2¢ senpai
>>81842283
>it was something very fresh and different when it first came out, and basically set the tone for batman/joker comics for the next 20 years.
it came out 2 years after TDKR and Year One you maroon
>>81842335and it's not nearly as good as either of those
>>81842335
i meant more in the context of the batman/joker relationship. pretty much every joker story since has been a retread in some form or another.
don't twist my words dingus it's not my fault i worded it vague
>>81842584
well who else's fault would it be
and let's be real, TDKR set up the homolust aspect of their relationship that Scott Snyder can't seem to let go of
>>81835798
>blaming a movie's rating on tumblr SJWs
You have absolutely no idea how the MPAA works do you?
>>81842584
>it's not my fault i worded it vague
This is easily the stupidest thing I have read today
I agree with your points but holy shit how is that not your fault
>>81842669
>the MPAA works
That's an oxymoron
>>81842628
of course it was my fault ya jamoke
and yes, TKDR definitely brought the gay in by the truckload
what I was clumsily trying to say was I meant the Joker/Bats relationship as in "we're both fucking nutso and we're just going to keep doing this"
Miller's....views on homosexuality aren't exactly progressive but joker's homo obsession seems to feel right in a perverse sort of way
>>81842669
I don't think that's what's happening here
>>81835798
I haven't kept up with this. Are they using the classic comic colors, or the re-release colors?
Comic fans should be happy. The Killing Joke is absolutely R-rated material, and not for the same reason as Deadpool saying "fuck" a lot and making jokes about his dick.
>>81835798
Why do I get the feeling that when they use the word "dude", it's used in a manner similar to a /pol/ browser saying "nigger"?
>>81842682
I was being sarcastic buddyboy
christ, next time I'll put a big fat "/s" at the end of a post so I don't confuse lunks like you
>>81842751
re-release colorsso it's already shit
>>81836229
What I don't understand is how in the fuck Army of Darkness got an R rating. That movie was incredibly tame outside of like one split second of blood spewing from a pit and I've seen PG movies with more gore than that scene.
>>81842942
If I had to guess it's probably because of the second and a half worth of the bare tits of those slave girls the skeletons had. Also probably because of swearing, like "You ain't leadin' but two things right now, Jack and shit, and Jack left town." You couldn't say 'shit' on television back then.
I do agree that in hindsight Army of Darkness is fairly tame compared to the previous two Evil Dead movies, though luckily not to the movie's detriment.
>>81843287
I gotta watch that movie again cause I don't remember there being any bare tits. Just some cleavage mainly on the girl who eventually became a deadite.
>>81843333
>"we got plans for you girly girls"
yeah there when the Army are taking wenches for slaves
>>81843333
There was a very brief scene when the deadites are building up their army by digging up all the corpses and bones in the cemetery, and there's a brief moment where a couple of living breathing slave girls in chains are being escorted by their skeleton masters and pass in front of the camera for a few seconds, bordering on a "blink and you miss it" moment, more of a "friend passes you the popcorn and you briefly shift attention to grabbing it because you don't want to spill it and you miss it" moment.
>>81842874
I'm sure some insane anon will eventually make a "fixed" edit with the original colors.
>>81842874
Using the original colors for an animated movie would just be bad
>>81843564
shut up Brian Bolland
the real question is did Gordon think naked barb looked good?
>>81843635
considering how much they flirted when he was Batman...
>>81842942
Why's Fury Road rated R?
>>81842714
This.
It doesn't matter, the movie could be xxx rated and parents will still take their kids to see the comic book movie, especially if it's a cartoon
>>81842283
>the Seinfeld of batman comics
Just stop right there, Captain Empty Analogy
>>81843557
WHAT THAT'S ABSURD I WAS NOT PLANNING ON DOING THAT. AM I ON TRIAL DO YOU HAVE A WARRANT?
>>81836646
Not all people with left leaning views are SJWs. You're only an SJW if you're overly preachy and the issues you focus on are silly shit like microagressions.
>>81843564
That episode of South Park that is essentially The Killing Joke looked great and they used the original color scheme.
>>81843635
I feel bad at how much the concept of Gordon unknowingly being lecherous to his daughter gets me going
>>81836229
Watch "This Film is Not Yet Rated". It explains the rating industry in an entertaining and interesting way.
>>81845207
No. Unacceptable. Either you are a GamerGater or an SJW. No in betweens. In betweens are race traitors who seek to divert you from the righteous cause.
>>81836698
Doesnt matter. Still a cuck.
>>81835798
So, Barbara's small tits confirmed?
>>81845807
does that word even mean anything on this site anymore
>>81845873
Don't be such a shill you autist
>>81845903
Take a stop at reddit when you go back to tumblr, you fedora.
>>81845873
Well his wife did leave him for the woman they were in a three-way relationship with.
>>81836698
Didn't he say something in an interview about how the rapes perpetrated everyday are akin to a sexual Holocaust?
If anybody else had said that, the "SJW"s and "cucks"s would be flying left and right.
>>81846010
we all just sort of squint and say "ok Alan" as he writes another story with rape out the assor in the ass
>>81835798
Rated R...thank god.
I'm glad its not gonna be some muted for SJW's pandering garbage.
People always bitch about this movie but frankly the shit they hate all help make it good. Besides the story being good in and of itself, it was nice to see some useless whore like Barbara actually get put to a good use. Batgirl sucked and at least she got to get shot, stripped, and photographed so a halfway decent story could get pulled out of such a shitty slut of a character.
"wah but misoginy. She has no agency and is just a lady in a refridgerator.". Fuck that shit its fictional. God forbid they take another utterly pointless female character and actually do something that isn't some bullshit 'girl somehow beats up a guy who would naturally be stronger' story. Female super heroes are fucking dumb and hopefully this'll influence future prospective comic writers who see this to actually use female characters well. Maybe actually get some of the other dumb cunt heroes shot, or stripped, or some combination of the two. Fuck id like it if she actually got fridged altogether. Oracle was a boring character when Alfred could fill the same basic role. Joker should have just hung her dead naked body up for Joker to see. Then years later we wouldn't need to hear SJW bitching about the trope the newest tranny villain whatever retard writing for this slut decides to shove into her boring comic.
>>81835798
oh no! this will totally prevent all the kids watching it on a streaming site.
Oh wait...
>>81846064
Speaking of in the ass, is Lost Girls any good?
I've been meaning to read it, because the concept....intrigues me.
Was Killing Joke age restricted? this seems kind of dumb honestly
>>81846107
it's porn
the story is porno tier
why is this R-rated anyways?
The not-rape rape? The not-murder murder?
>>81846077
O-kay. That's uh... that's an opinion.
Gonna' stand over here for a while.
>>81846107
I fapped to it.
I'm not sure if that answers your question.
>>81846163
But is it good porn?
>>81835798
>but I'm glad I missed it
good for you bluehair mcConformy
actually that's all anyone's ever fucking asked of you, if you don't like something you don't buy it
>>81835798
I don't get it why is this important?
>>81845873
Check any shipping or waifu thread on /mlp/
The answer is it means the person saying it is an insecure fuck who can't handle the idea of there waifu having any sort of sex life and considers anybody that has ever had sex to be a slut.
I think /pol/ just uses it as a generic insult.
>>81846107
Honestly? Pass. Or don't. Truth be told, I haven't heard anything bad about it, but I've never heard anyone singing its praises either. Granted, it's straight up porn, and porn doesn't come up much in daily conversation, but still.
>>81846217
Many were afraid that the story and it's contents would be toned down as has been done in the past regarding comic book stories that were perceived to be "too dark" for the general public, mainly children.
As it now has an "R" rating, many of those people have calmed down though there is still some fear the story will be fucked through some other manner.
>>81846077
I get the distinct impression you have a problem with women
>>81846217
It doesn't.
Nothing matters, anon. After you die your accomplishments will be forgotten in about 80 or so years.
>>81846217
It means they are coming. The SJWs are massing their armies even as we speak. They will come in the night and snip off your penis with their safety scissors, and burn everything that you personally enjoyed. Some will tell you otherwise, but do not listen; they have been implanted with brood eggs and even now submit their testosternectar to their new masters.
>>81846187
all that matters is the art. Do you find the art attractive? google it
gonna be honest it's not my thing but if you can fap to it enjoy
>>81846171
Hey i'm right tho. Theres a reason no real comic fans give a shit they popped that stupid character and all but tossed her just to bum gordon out for a story. cos the cunt was never a good enough character on her own.
>>81846268
Didn't Hamill say that this was the one story he really wanted to do as the Joker? Maybe it was part of the pitch: if it didn't follow the story faithfully, they wouldn't have Hamill.
>>81846300
>>>/v/
actually who cares, I'm going to bed anyways
and I need to spend less time here
kablam.
>>81846294
Nah, he loves women. Can't get enough of them. Just a few more and that skin-suit will be ready for a night on the town.
>>81846294
Sorry should I complain about things being problematic and talk about safe spaces for you to feel comfortable. This isn't tumblr. If anyone here gave a shit about batcunt I doubt the story wouldn't be as beloved as it rightfully is.
>>81846300
wouldn't Killing Joke being limited to PG be the failure condition here? How is an R Killing Joke not the best outcome?
>>81846346
You sound like you've beentriggeredby something anon
do you want awarningnext time we talk about female comic heroes?
>>81846346
No, no you're fine. Maybe later you can tell us more about mutilating women. We're all cool here.
>>81846391
Nah I love talking about female comic heroes. As long as its good shit like this where theyre actually utilized right. Instead of just being tumblr pandering crap.
>>81846416
Well if you are so offended by poor bitch barbara being shot why are you even posting in a Killing Joke thread.
>>81846364
It's DC so we need something to bitch about.
>>81846107
it's closer to Neonomicon than From Hell, to put it one way
>>81846300
>>81846294
>>81846344
>>81846391
So, now we've come to the point when someone can't even say something bad about SJW that they shitpost in droves about it, trying as hard as they can to slide the thread and hide their butthurt.
You did it /co/, it took you a lot of effort, but you did it.
You are the shittiest board on 4chan.
Congratulations.
>>81846528
no.
We're just sick and tired of pigfucking fagtismo supremes who don't actually like comics or cartoons insisting on dictating the party line for our board.
fuck back off to /v/, you underage gremlin.
>>81846446
He never said that he is saying your a gigantic fucking faggot
>>81846528
>So, now we've come to the point when someone can't even say something bad about SJW that they shitpost in droves about it, trying as hard as they can to slide the thread and hide their butthurt.
No matter how many times I read that it doesn't make sense.
>>81846528
you're not fooling anyone
>>81846446
I think it's the ratio of times you felt the need to say "cunt" "slut" or "whore" vs actually describing problems with the character or what you find inherently valuable about mutilating/raping characters that makes that the best case scenario.
Understand I think it was handled perfectly fine in TKJ I'm just curious if you think you were making a solid well thought out comment on characterization in comics.
>>81846572
Nah I imagine the person with their little SJW sensibilities offended is the faggot here.
>>81846528
What you said makes a lot of sense.
I'm going to give it all the thought it deserves.
>>81846569
>We're just sick and tired of pigfucking fagtismo supremes who don't actually like comics or cartoons insisting on dictating the party line for our board.
Then you and your buttbuddies shouldn't be here.
>>81846577
Shh it's ok you little baby, you're in your safe space now.
>>81846576
My grammar was a little dodgy but if you seriously can't extrapolate a meaning out of it your brain must be worse.
>>81846528
We don't have to be social justice warriors to think you have serious problems with women
>>81846077
is this satire
>>81846605
there's literally only one person getting offended in this thread and it's you, offended by imaginary people who think a 30 year old comic book you've never read is bad because they've never read it either
when are we going to gas the kikes lads
>excessive blood and gore is okay às long as it isn't grotesque and realistically portrayed
>god forbid someone popa a nipple or phrases something in a particular context, otherwise rated R
I hate the ratings system so much
>>81846634
>I'm going to give it all the thought it deserves
Which amounts exactly to all the thought you can give anything, really.
>>81846655
>you
Ain't me Carl, but I can imagine how everyone who's not like you must be a rapist sexist Trump Jr. in your little eyes-
>>81846599
>>81846577
Any point I was going to make have been invalidated by the double dubs.
I cast myself before the mercy of the respective anons.
>>81846599
Hey sorry of the language hurt your feelings but I say shit like I see it.
And I never mentioned mutilating or raping any characters. I meant stupid shit female heroes don't make any sense. And it was nice that TKJ actually did something useful with one. Instead of it being another shitty story with some dumb whiny bitch doing shit a woman wouldn't be able to do she was at least put to some use toward furthering the stories of Gordon, Batman, and Joker. And I'm glad this shits gonna be R rated so it isn't likely to be watered down thus ruining what happened to Barbara for pathetic SJW sensibilities.
My point about 'characterization in comics' is that when it's for a useless character like Barbara Gordon you may as well toss it out the window and get some use out of her for characters people give a shit about.
>>81846605
I'm not sure you've been reading the same thread, unless the only way to not be a SJW is to want to see female characters mutilated for some vague reason.
>>81846528
The killing joke is an amazing comic and adapting it without neutering it is a good thing. That doesn't actually change the fact that you have problems with women and frankly none of us want to hear about it. Go be pathetic in /r9k/. Don't pretend it's what we want though.
>>81846709
he's literally an underage /v/irgin troll
do what I'm doing, sage report and close the thread
>>81846698
I gave more thought than your moma did when she decided to keep you.
>>81846661
why would you ever think that...
>>81846712
>amazing
it's ok
>>81846698
This is if you don't hate transexuals you support special snowflake genders tier retardation.
>>81846731
If you closed the thread how are you still posting here?
>>81846733
it's just so comically over the top
>>81846763
Yeah I guess it seems that way at first glance huh.
All I care about is that Mark Hamill is doing the Joker in this.
>>81846731
>he's literally an underage /v/irgin troll
As opposed to what, metaphorically?
Please don't use big words you don't know the meaning of.
>>81846732
Which amounts exactly to all the thought you can give anything, really.
>>81846712
>you
There we go again.
>>81846707
>And I never mentioned mutilating or raping any characters.
>Fuck id like it if she actually got fridged altogether.
Maybe we just read different comics, muh bad!
>>81846784
you could be merely pretending to be an underage /v/ troll, and thus not literally an underage /v/ troll
>>81846788
Being Fridged doesn't have anything to do with being mutilated or raped man. You got a sick mind.
Everybody in this thread is a cuck except me.
>>81846774
This is either a long play or an earnest one. In either case, commendations are in order.
>>81846823
Was there a comic where you got cucked by a fridge? Now it seems to be the only scenario that makes sense with your posts.
>>81846748
Switch hate with "dislike" and... yes, that's exactly it.
See the problem isn't that people didn't like that Miller's character-wannabe rant, the problem is in how you answered.
It's always the "hate women" angle, the "lol im not triggered u are" shit, the "SJW boogeyman".
Always the same script, always the same lines, and whoever disagrees is THAT ONE poster who is also a /v/irgin underage troll I guess.
You are trasparent in your intentions, even when you reply to a shitpost.
But don't fret, no need to be triggered and piss your panties.
You're at home now.
Congratulations.
>>81846707
You do realize the reason Moore includes rape in his comics is because it is a real crime that he feels isnt given anywhere near the amount of attention it deserves right? Do you realize you are entirely missing the point of the comic and that almost every comic book character ever made is a progressive and most comic book writers dating back to the 50's have been progressives? I mean....I get it you know? You want attention and you enjoy shitposting. But please could you just stop shitting up /co/? Its just beating a dead horse at this point.
>>81836434
gonna laugh my ass off if they recripple barb in rebirth and bring back another batgirl
>>81846821
Oh yes, I was so unsure if he was pretending to be underage or not. I mean, I was almost going to offer him a beer.
>>81846842
You're a big cuck.
>>81846856
Do you not know what being fridged is? It's a term used to describe when women are killed or attacked in some way to further a male characters story. Like Kyle Rayners girlfriend being killed and jammed into his fridge to give him pathos.
>>81846868
at some point for Moore it went from bringing attention to it to just being something he likes writing about
>>81846891
At this point I've just lost track of Batgirls. First there was one then there was Oracle then there was one again then were three then one of them was evil and by the time it all got sorted out New 52 rolled around and I clocked out.
>>81846868
Shitting it up how?
Also I am not and never was talking about rape. Some other assholes keep bringing it up.
I feel like this thread just got meme'd on
>>81846868
>t almost every comic book character ever made is a progressive and most comic book writers dating back to the 50's have been progressives?
I really wish people who didn't read comics would stop shitting up /co/ too.
>>81843564
Only cucks would prefer gritty and grim washed out colors.
>>81846909
Now we are all cucks of SJ/v/irgins.
>>81846944
Well meme'd, friend
>>81846949
conservative comic creators are few and far between
![474000bcd8673602024[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2Wota6U.jpg "474000bcd8673602024[1].jpg")
>>81846915
Oh I always just assumed that mutilation was part of the act of stuffing people into fridges but I guess that isn't a given. Well that clears up the ethics and explains your advocacy pretty thoroughly.
>>81836646
That's not how you avoid lawsuits anon
>>81846944
Can't deny dubs
Kek has spoken
This thread sure turned to shit fast.
>>81847003
Just because you aren't progressive doesn't mean you have to be a republican or a conservative.
Also comics go beyond cape comics buddy.
>>81847012
Hey man. I didn't shoot the character strip her naked and snap a bunch of photographs of her.
I'm just talkin about it.
>>81847072
>I'm just talkin about it.
barely
>>81847050
I feel like the people who keep this thread in the shitter the most are the ones who comment about how much this thread is in the shitter.
>>81847068
>comics go beyond cape comics buddy
even then
hell, especially then
>>81847094
>>81847050
Lets be honest. This thread was talking about (in its OP) how killing joke is getting an R rating.
And the image is a tweet or some shit from an sjw complaining about the killing joke (or well casting it in a negative light for what are in all likelihood SJW reasons).
There wasn't any chance this was not going to be a shit thread.
>>81835798
>The soggy knees win.
oh I get it! Its a /tvirgin/ shitposting about DC!
>>81847155
it was going surprisingly well until >>81846077 showed up
>>81842942
you just answered your own question.
Sometimes movies get an R rating because they say fuck twice.
apply that logic to blood and gore
person gets stabbed and you see blood? R rating
>>81847213
there was almost zero blood in Army of Darkness though
>>81847072
That's... actually a point. Something something relationship between the audience and the creator something.
>>81847187
Well peeps shouldn't have taken that obvious bait then.
>>81847122
>south american comics
>progressive
Please stop.
>>81847238
Just as well, the obvious bate never should have been placed.
>>81847238
But I'm so hungry... and the bait was there... I thought I could just grab it...
>>81846686
Transformers 3 got a G rating in my country for some reason despite the decapitations of each robot, a short lewd butt scene and so on, yet Antman and the recent Disney movies got a PG13 rating.
>>81847187
No it wasn't: >>81836646
But I guess that doesn't count because it suits your narrative.
>>81847238
They didn't.
They just wanted to indirectly piss off people who they didn't see as their "allies".
Basically, they made bait posts themselves.
This is /co/ now.
>>81847250
well it was too progressive for the Argentinian government, at least
>>81847316
one shitpost does not make a thread shit unless it derails the entire thread
>>81847316
>They didn't.
>They just wanted to indirectly piss off people who they didn't see as their "allies".
>Basically, they made bait posts themselves.
>This is /co/ now.
You can't go read some click bait article and then reply to it in a random /co/ thread and expect anyone to understand what the fuck you're saying.
>>81847316
You seem sad.
>>81847349
Look at the replies.
>>81847353
And you can't have the reading comprehension of a 5 years old and blame it on the poster.
Okay so bait aside is the treatment of Barbara Gordon in TKJ okay?
And by her treatment I mean that she served not so much as a character who actually did anything or had any development, but as a human plot device for Jim Gordon development.
>>81847412
>And you can't have the reading comprehension of a 5 years old and blame it on the poster.
If you're talking about things that haven't been demonstrated in this thread you're either having a fault of comprehension yourself or posting in the wrong thread.
>>81847457
As a standalone comic I'd say no. It all works in TKJ because there is an assumption that you've learned a bit about Barbara and can find empathy with Gordon when she's maimed.
The real question is, will we get uncensored tits?
>>81847389
No, but I find it a pity, this place used to be much better.
>>81847457
At the end of the day The Killing Joke is a mediocre story held up because of some great moments and stellar art
and part of why it's mediocre is that Barbara's treatment is just kind of pointless within the context of the story by itself
>>81847463
>haven't been demonstrated
You mean aside from all the people calling out the SJWs on their butthurt?
If that's not a demonstration then nothing is.
>>81847524
How would your perception of the fabled /co/ of old have responded to the bait?
>>81847457
Ehhh... I'm gonna' take the middle road on this one. Her getting shot was a half-fridging (cooler) for shock value and to show that the story wasn't fucking around. Okay? I'm not really sure. But DC sticking to her being disabled and resolving to keep her in the story? That I like. Would have been real easy to cheap out and magic her back into Batgirl or Cyber Batgirl or whatever. Kind of illustrates how, at this point anyway, crippling superheroes is probably more narratively interesting than straight up killing them.
>>81847551
>all the people
we know it's just you
>>81847573
Yeah yeah I'm an underage virgin gamagopa, whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>81847551
>You mean aside from all the people calling out the SJWs on their butthurt?
But that's exactly what I mean. No one has demonstrated being a SJW.
>>81847524
When?
>>81847618
But they don't hate women enough that means they want them to rule the world.
>>81847609
You certainly need to grow the fuck up.
>>81847556
I remember that even as recent as 2011 there were numerous long posts about women in comics and all the baggage that comes with it, without territorial markings of any kind though.
>>81847639
>You certainly need to grow the fuck up.
It's hilarious to read that sentence just after the one above.
You have no self-awareness do you.
>>81847671
>without territorial markings of any kind though.
I'm sorry, can you clarify?
>>81847671
>/co/
>before 2011
>not shit
Gotta' hand it to you, I think that's the earliest anybody has put 'the Golden Age'.
>>81847707
You mean "latest", you gritty oldfag you.
>>81847696
Although I agree that "grow the fuck up" is an empty critique. However, all the guy has done is say he'd like to see more female characters hurt (never specified how that's inherently good writing) and then started calling anyone that questioned him on it a SJW.
>>81847759
There was a shitstorm before and after that guy's replies too.
>>81847755
Back in my day, they gave us candy-coated blowjobs on /co/! And we called Tuesdays 'Tits-days'! (On account of the abundance of tits, you see.) And Grant Morrison would personally let your tulpa kiss his forehead for good luck!
>>81847759
I think he's referring to how female heroes in western comics are usually treated with kids gloves compared to male heroes. Usually the ones that don't have Superman levels of power strength or durability. At least those ones get their hands dirty.
>>81847827
He does it in a way that show a shitload of personal baggage. Yeah we all know that they are treated with kid gloves now. There's really no way to change that without a shift in direction.
>>81847637
the turning point was October 10, 2010
>>81847827
>>81847843
I'm pretty sure he was just doing an absurd caricature of the kind of people who think it's silly that people take issue with how Batgirl was utilized in the comic.
>>81847852
MLP was in no way a good thing for the board, but things really went down the shitter when the first Homestuck thread was made.
>>81846866
We say it's not us because it's you
And social justice warriors are sure as fuck not a boogyman there a very real threat and faggots like you do nothing but validate them.
>>81847852
A day that will live in infamy.
Where were you, /co/? I was getting high off printer ink in my university library.
>>81846916
I think you may be right
>>81847896
Sure, but running with it isn't particularly profound or humorous it's just back to "look at me I'm a retard".
"we get it"
"no I'm really retarded"
"I mean are you really?"
"I'm really retarded"
"wow please don't be retarded"
"trust me, I'm really retarded"
If >>81847827 was his original point he forgot that the caricature was the vehicle for the point he was trying to make and instead just became the caricature.
>>81846077
>>81846346
>>81846707
Anon is so real and edge and telling like it is, ladies.
>>81847973
There needs to be a term for that creative threshold where, at some point, you begin to wonder if an artist keeps bringing up an issue about sexuality because it matters to them, or it's just their fetish.
Yeah, you all know who I'm talking about. -Ikuhara-.
>>81847941
Oh, Social Justice Warriors are real, but the thing is, you see SJWs the same way they see Gamergate as. You're making them into bigger threats than they actually are. No, I'm not advocating to stop mocking them. But treating them as the next Hitler only shows that you've got personal issues. At worst, they are the Leftist equivalent of the "Moral Majority".
>>81847502
>>81847549
>>81847562
Gotta say I'm surprised this only got the three replies.
Id figure at least one person would be cool with the use of Batgirl in the comic entirely considering how much dislike there seems to be for the SJW's who take issue with it.
>>81846163
I do believe the correct term is Literary Erotica, my good friend.
>>81848097
It seemed like a unbiased question so it got unbiased answers.
What SJW do or do not cry about has no weight in terms of how well used Barbara was in TKJ.
>>81845642
The best ones are where it's kinda turning her on.
>>81848097
the SJWs taking issue take issue for the wrong reasons i.e. it offends them, not because of any flaw they find in the narrative
often because they haven't read it
>>81848173
I dunno. I can see the reasoning behind being kind of offended by it. I'm not personally offended by it but I have to acknowledge women have very often been used as 'devices' to be killed or hurt in some way to further a heroes story. So to take one of the few really big and well known female heroes in that camp, and have her purpose in a pretty game changing story be to simply get brutalized as a plot device...I kinda get why some people might have problems with it.
I mean sure within the confines of the narrative it works. But come on, were comic fans. If lets say brian michael bendis took a character and used them in a way that worked 'for the story' perfectly well but fucked up or killed the character because he didn't give a shit about that character, folks might be pissed about it regardless of how good the story was.
I dunno I just find it interesting. The disconnect where people in this community will be incredibly passionate about characters they care about not being mistreated, but not in some cases and not for certain reasons.
>>81848393
now see, we can recognize that Barbara is being used merely as a plot device and isn't really a character in the context of the story because we've read the book and sometimes /co/ can be halfway decent at reading comics critically
but people who haven't read it say it's rape, say they're offended because it's rape, and brand the book as bad for solely that reasonand let's be real Bendis does this all the fucking time
>>81835798
>some fucking rando who barely said anything beyond "I don't like this" and this is being treated as a Great Victory against the "SJW" Scourge
At least try and start the thread with something of note
>>81848393
To be fair Bendis probably would've done a shit job.
Not to mention it's a 30 year old story.
She was a device in that, but it did lead to an iteration of Barbara a lot of people seemed to like and were disappointed was undone for New52, even though that wasn't any of Moore's intention or doing.
>>81846077
I hate women to be honest
>>81847941
>there a very real threat
Nigga not on fucking 4chan of all places
>>81835798
I just don't care any more.
SJW's are just annoying at this point. So are the autists who devote all their time to opposing them.No one just laughs at SJW's anymore, it has to be about this big cultural war. Stop taking this shit so seriously, please.
>>81843564
That cover was garish and page after page of it just hurts my eyes.
>>81845960
Stop being such a beta you fucking autist.
How are they going to stretch this into a 2 hour movie?
So they aren't going to censor it? That shit with the cover with Joker and batgirl getting canned because of tumblr had me worried.
>sjws complain about Barbara being vulnerable but not a peep about Gordan being raped by midgets
>>81852426
It's not going to be 2 hours it's going to be 75-80 minutes like all the other DTVs. Even then they're going to be adding Batgirl stuff to fill up time and establish her as a character.
>>81852448
If only Barbara was as cute as Gordon
>you'll never be this triggered by an animated movie
Why even live?
>>81848061
>You're making them into bigger threats than they actually are
Actually, speaking as a left-wing dyed in the wool socialist, they're a huge threat, they're killing left politics
>>81852735
AH GORDON, LOOK AT ALL THESE CLOTHED PICTURES OF YOU UNHARMED DAUGHTER
HA HA HA HA HA
Oh please, you didn't even SEE anything in the Killing Joke.
>>81840738
>tfw really liked Hannibal
>tfw nothing to replace it
Twin Peaks season 3 can't come any sooner.
Hope they won't fuck it up like they did with S2
>>81852912
But you didn't NOT SEE IT either. That could leave someone triggered.
>>81836646
>He dodged a lawsuit for swampthing because he defended gay rights in it.
How does that make him a SJW?
>>81852735
I will never understand why SJWs are so strongly against the depiction of rape and sexual assault in fictional stories. The rape is done by a disturbingly disgusting sociopath. It's not in any way glorified. No one ever read the Killing Joke and thought "wow, Joker is such a cool role mode!". It's the exact opposite message, he's depicted as an utter monster for what he did to Barbara.
On one hand, SJWs want to raise awareness towards sexual assault and the trauma rape victims suffer from and on another, they don't want fictional stories to ever touch upon this subject at all. What is the logic behind this?
>>81852735
I get really angry when someone says that Where The Dead Go To Die is a good horror cartoon.
Does that count?
>>81842283
The whole thing with the comic too is that its the Joker going further than usual. Problem with that is that hacks keep having him go further and further till we culminate with him nuking fucking metropolis in injustice. Its gotten ridiculous.
But it is sexist though.
>>81853581
You wouldn't see any male superhero in that position
>>81853666
>>81853581
Rapists exist. Women get raped in real life. Isn't it more sexist that we demand writers to act as if it never happens and instead they have to treat women in their stories like unkillable children NPCs in video games?
>>81852912
You see bullets go through people and a couple of asses and a nipple.
I hope we can finally have a Joker as creepy as this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etst4t3ES8Y
I'm not really a Hamill fan (my favourite Joker is Emerson), but RotJ Joker is disturbing.
>>81853835
You probably think women being able to wear whatever they want is okay too.
>>81853835
>unkillable children NPCs in video games
Offtopic, but this shit is so annoying.
>it's okay to kill innocent people in their sleep when they're at their most defenseless, cannibalize them, put their heads on a drawer like a bizarre lamp, steal their things, kill all their pets, sell your victims' remains to their friends as "strange meat", get high on all kinds of drugs and alcoholic beverages and go literally nuke some town
>killing children is evil, anon. We can't let you shoot those boys and girls
It's fucking silly
>>81854386
>playing bethesda games
Its law in Europe that children cannot be the victim of violence.
>>81854386
They fucking ruined fallout
>>81842776
Dude is not and has never been a slur, I don't know how you can compare it to nigger at all.
You're retarded.
