>this is Hack Snyder
>>81817441
>this is based Johns
I wish WB would give some creative control to Johns
>>81817441
>>81817457
This is actually kind of true. Crime is a lot lower than joy, especially in Metropolis.
Snyderman is not Allstar Superman, hes just a dude named Superman. Get over it
Hes not some weird paternal figure you project your insecurities too and his all peach and love and shit, hes just a dude
>>81817524
I wish DC would give Johns enough creative control so he could straighten Snyder the fuck out. Instead of him reporting to Snyder, it should be the other way around.
>>81817441
>>81817457
This is not a difference between Supermen. This is a difference between the worlds they live in. There is no city where sunshine and rainbows outmatch cries for help. That's even more sci fi than a man who can fly powered by the sun. That's not how our world works. That's not how the DCEU works either.
>>81817457
Johns has, or at least had the most creative control of any one man when it came to WB's use of DC properties. It's possible he lost the gig after Green Lantern fizzled out.
>>81817558
Then what's so "súper" about him?
>messiah figure punches really hard!
Fuck off, half of DC's metahumans can fight at that level. Superman without the will and means to actually inspire hope is not muh Superman, just a recolored Sentry.
>>81817441
a real human being
>>81817457
super creepazoid
>>81817637
>Then what's so "súper"
Strength, flight, eyes that shoot lasers
That's the super part
The "man" part is where the hope and dreams and courage come from, jackass
Superman is 50% powers, 50% man
>>81817637
He has the superpowers but at the end of the day he's still a man. Hence the name. The movie builds all the messiah imagery but it also shows his human side. Hos tome with Lois, his desire to keep his mother safe, etc. He gave people hope by saving them. He sacrificed his life for it.
>>81817618
It is not something to to take literally
He's saying that even if the bad stuff is there, hw can also hear the good things, that what Supermam is about, someone who doesnt let the horrible world destroy his optimism, Snyder'd versión choosed to become deaf instead even if that means letting his own mother die... He's like the antiSuperman atm
>>81817441
Then there is this.
>>81817694
>Morrison
>Classic
Bonus points for using PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA in the fourth panel of the right side though
>>81817686
Selective hearing still ignores cries for help. Do you not see that? The only difference is that comic Supes hears the good stuff, in a sense, lying to himself that everything is okay. It's not.
>>81817441
I thought Superman could move at a speed similar to the Flash? Like, be anywhere in the world in mere seconds? What's his excuse then?
>>81817639
Superman isn't a real human being though, I thought that was fairly clear
>>81817663
>>81817680
He shows a lousy and rotten human side. Lois Lane was more heroic at some points besides not superpowers... The point is that Clark is also an outstanding human being. He is what makes the superhero, not just the alíen powers
>Superman should be Big Brother
Hello, Injustice fans!
>>81817441
>/co/ pretending to like Johns
>>81817618
>That's not how our world works. That's not how the DCEU works either.
Again missing the point completely. Do you honestly believe there are lot more cries for help than cries of cheers and Joys and laughter. Do you honestly believe there are lot more thievery and murder and mugging going around than people being joyous and happy? Superman is the ultimate figure of optimism. He would try his hardest to see more good than bad. This is just a lazy explanation by Snyder to justify his creative choices thus missing the point of the character completely.
>>81817639
>Spoken like a true Snydercuck.
>>81817618
>There is no city where sunshine and rainbows outmatch cries for help.
What about places with low or no black people?
>>81817715
>lying
>>81817746
>the world is a wonderful place!
I wish I was a billionaire like you,anon.
>>81817618
>There is no city where sunshine and rainbows outmatch cries for help.
Oh yeah. Because THIS was totally fucking realistic.
BIRTHING MATRIX!
WORLD ENGINE!
BATHROOM SINK!
MARTHA!
iHOP!
Was Batman supposed to be 100% right in the movies? If Lois is killed, Superman goes off the deep end.
How can you like someone who's a literal death away from becoming a despot?
>>81817441
Do you ALWAYS give some cash to hobos, OP?
>>81817770
>muh grown up cynicism
>>81817746
How sheltered are you? Jesus christ.
>>81817770
Well you'd still visit 4chan and you would still be a cynic
>>81817779
>How can you like someone who's a literal death away from becoming a despot?
How can people vote for Republicans, anon?
>>81817794
>look ma, I'm an idealist!
>>81817789
>>81817791
>>81817770
>>81817715
You squares need some Mentallo in your heads.
>>81817441
That's not Superman's fault though, that's the environment he's in. DCEU Superman isn't a sociopath like /co/ enjoys memeing about, he's just a guy trying to do the right thing in a world where doing the right thing is written as naivety.
I like Cavill and Snyder's Superman as a character. The idea of a Superman who maintains a core of optimism while being faced with cynical situations is incredibly powerful and the perfect way to "modernize" Superman. It's just that I want the plot and script to actually allow for that to be conveyed properly.
>>81817789
If you're such a winner, what are you doing in 4chan?
>>81817779
>Was Batman supposed to be 100% right in the movies? If Lois is killed, Superman goes off the deep end.
No, that just proves Batman is wrong, because Batman is a mass murderer, and is most likely to murder Lois out of the entire cast of Dawn of Superjustice for the sole reason that he has the highest bodycount in the movie
And that includes Scoots McGee
>>81817457
>I wish WB would give some creative control to Johns
I wish people like you stop being so casual, Johns creative input is usually terrible, he is only good working with the ideas of others and giving flat characters personalities. He is the definition of a headcanonfag. When he goes full Johns you end up with crap like Darkside war.
>>81817777
Science fiction storytelling involves choosing your battles. Selecting the level of disbelief based on your personal prefences. Just because the story involves aliens and high technology, doesn't mean the world they exist in has to be the Mushroom Kingdom. There has to be some solid ground to balance it all out. Otherwise you have something like Jupiter Ascending.
People who don't get Supes should not discuss the character. Let alone defend Snyder's abortion of him.
Go watch Superman VS The Elite, learn a thing or two about what makes him The Superhero
>>81817791
I don't know anon, I still see a lot more people enjoying themselves than I read on the internet about BAD SHIT HAPPENING and pretend to be a cynic. If I can do it, Superman in comic can do it, Snyderman should too. But he won't because he isn't a Superman.
>>81817848
>watch
>not read
NOW who's the casual? The cartoon butchered the comic story by making the Elite clearly evil.
>>81817845
>DC BENDIS! DC BENDIS!
>>81817834
>The idea of a Superman who maintains a core of optimism while being faced with cynical situations is incredibly powerful
Snyder is saying the exact opposite anon.
>>81817848
>Go watch the animated adaptation of the comic
Casual detected
>>81817851
>If I can do it
That's because you're ignorant of the world.
>>81817866
>The cartoon butchered the comic story by making the Elite clearly evil.
The Elite were flat out evil in Kelly's original book. The fact that it was a single, hypercompressed issue made matters even worse. And every time Chester appears after that he's a bigger cunt than before, even after he dies.
When they adapted What's So Funny into vs. the Elite, Kelly took the opportunity to actually fix shit in the story. For example, he gave Manchester an actual backstory.
That's the benefit of having a screenwriter who also happens to have written the original work.
>>81817874
It seems that way, but Superman really does maintain his selfless core and trust and love for humanity. He sees the worst of them because that's the 200% cynical world Snyder depicts stupidly, but he still trusts them and knows people are good. Hell, he even takes a punch to save Luthor from Doomsday right after he had his mom almost torched by the dude.
>>81817866
They are casuals and this is /tv/ 2.0. You really expect them to read? I mean Jesus these fucks here actually believe Watchmen movie is a faithful adaptation.
>>81817890
>When they adapted What's So Funny into vs. the Elite
I thought this came years after Kelly gave him a backstory?
>>81817915
Kelly didn't give Chester his backstory originally. That was Loeb, well after What's So Funny.
>>81817908
>that's the 200% cynical world Snyder depicts stupidly
You're right kid, the world is rainbows and unicorns.
>>81817881
>muh cynicism. Mom, look I made it.
Actually read a comic before shilling for Snyder faggot.
>>81817874
No, Snyder is doing what 99% of the writters had done, the whole idea of Clark reporting shit while there's a flood on thailand makes no sense if Superman doesnt shut the screams off.
Snyder's take is the traditional take in the comics, Johns crap is just faux feel good stuff.
Even Bruce Allmighty dealt with this issue better than Johns.
>>81817928
>Loeb
Lol. Did Chester have a kid with cancer?
>>81817939
>Actually read a comic
Says the /tv/ casual.
>>81817934
I never said that. I just said that we never see Superman explore the brighter side of the world so it makes it seem like Superman is in constant despair. I know it doesn't make Cavillman a different character, but it's ill conceived if you want to tell a story of Superman maintaining optimism in his world if all you do is depict him in pessimistic scenarios when it comes to day to day life.
>>81817908
It's depicted in way that makes it seem he's doing it out of obligation, not because he enjoys it.
>>81817965
>t's depicted in way that makes it seem he's doing it out of obligation
The whole conversation with Martha was about how he DOESNT have an obligation.
>>81817964
>I want Supes to show me unicorns and rainbows, boo hoo
>>81817953
>Says the /tv/ casual.
We both homies of the same board anon.
>>81817934
No YOU'RE right, we live in an 1984 shithole with absolutely no freedom or genuine happiness whatsoever
>>81817779
>How can you like someone who's a literal death away from becoming a despot?
With that line of thought how can you like Superman at all? Shit, Timmverse Superman alone had what, at least two different what if despot storylines?
>>81817965
Exactly.
It just seems like Nolan pitched the base idea way back in 2012 of this kind of Superman in our modern world, and Snyder wouldn't dare mess with it but is trying his absolute hardest to make it unnoticeable.
>>81817989
More or less, yeah.
In fact, one of the things I most like about JLA Earth 2 is, is the real world closer to Earth 2 than to 1?
>>81817973
Yet he forgets it in the next scene and gets all like "Superman was never real, no one stays good in the world"
>>81817941
>mah alien god man of hope isn't relatable enough
You clearly never wanted a Superman movie in the first place
>>81817989
>we live in an 1984 shithole with absolutely no freedom or genuine happiness whatsoever
Actually Anglos, french and Germans kinda do.
When you use the word "weird" like that you are basically saying "My vocabulary and ability to analyze and convey information has failed me and I now prostrate myself before the almighty gods of ambiguity. Please deliver me from the responsibility of communication."
OK, fair enough, I wouldn't be jumping down his neck if it wasn't Snyder, but I still despise that usage.
>>81817846
The human world of JA wasn't the Mushroom Kingdom either.
>>81818067
Is not about being relatable, are you dense? It's the interpretation most writters use to explain why the Clark persona exist.
The clark persona exist to make him relatable.
>>81818009
>More or less, yeah.
Fuck off
>>>/pol/
>>81818068
Not to mention eastern Europe, the Middle East, Latin America...
Nobody gives a shit about Superman, the tortured soul. Not unless he's got the basis of Superman the symbol of hope to contrast.
Snyder never put in the work for that so he hasn't earned this CRAWLING IN MY SKIN bullshit.
>>81818059
>"Superman was never real, no one stays good in the world"
More like the world rejects him, he doubts himself and still keeps trying to make the world a better place.
>>81818100
>>/mlp/
You'll love that world, so full of color and pretty ponies.
>>81818114
>this CRAWLING IN MY SKIN bullshit.
This what?
>>81817822
Why is Flex fighting Moon Man?
>>81818115
2deep4 most posters on this board
I wodner what does Mark Waid think? He loves classic Superman but he also wrote Irredeemable.
>>81817618
>There is no city where sunshine and rainbows outmatch cries for help.
Even ISIS manages to shut their sex slaves up, I heard.
>>81817845
>he is only good working with the ideas of others and giving flat characters personalities.
So he would have been a great asset to the travesty that was BvS.
>>81817457
So when im pounding some sweet boipussy, Superman hear every thrust? Every moan of pleasure?
Fucking sick freak
>>81818091
Okay then. What does Snyder Clark do besides mope around seeing the world decay around him?
What does he do besides act like a holier-than-thou prick?
>>81818157
>>81818115
By letting her mom burn instead of using his superpowers because he may hear. bad and sad shit happening
>>81818171
>What does he do besides act like a holier-than-thou prick?
He doesn't though
>>81818171
>act like a holier-than-thou prick
This is the impression he'd give if he was that oh-so-idealist-Superman OP wants.
>>81817989
>implying that serving Big Brother is not hapiness
Doubleplusungood
Doubleplusungood
>all these pessimistic and nihilistic worldviews
Who here /optimism/?
>>81818151
And he was an asset.
He worked on the damned thing, and in Green Lanter, And Batman Gotham Knight, and in Flash: BET edition.
>>81818171
>What does he do besides act like a holier-than-thou prick?
Saves lives and tries to make the world a better place.
>>81818197
>i must stop bad batman
>let the heavily armed kryptonite smugglers get away
>>81818181
>81818181
Nice numbers
>>81818109
>excluding the Americans, who have been suffering genocide and foreign rule for over 300 years.
>>81817979
What a nice and compelling and very mature argument.
>>81818212
>I'm happy to be a NEET
Congrats.
>>81818197
>You're a bad bad man Bruce, I'm so much better dealing with criminals punching them through fucking walls
>>81818212
>not being /absurdism/
>>81817457
That's actually a really nice little scene and I hate modern comics.
It'd be better without Stallone Supes though
>>81818181
>>81818181
>>81818181
>>81818181
>>81818181
>>81818171
save people from floods, little girls from fires....
>>81818232
Americans are very happy, anon. Just ask OP.
>>81818240
I'm sad I'm not a NEET. That's the life. Being a useless piece of shit all day and getting those autism bucks. Wish I could do it but I'd hate myself a few years into it.
>>81818271
Admit it, you don't get the point of Superman.
>>81818213
>Saves lives and tries to make the world a better place.
All while acting like an untouchable alien god
For fuck's sakes that's like something they'd put in yet 'WHAT SUPERMAN WAS EVIL/MORALLY GRAY? elseworld
>>81818312
The point of Superman is to entertain you. If you really look to a fictional character for inspiration and hope, then you need to reevaluate your priorities.
>>81817770
The world is not a place that needs more darkness in it simply to add more darkness.
A young child loves heroes who smile and save the day. When they grow up a little they realize those heroes are fake and that the world is a complex place and they gravitate towards darker, morally ambiguous characters, or sometimes the outright villainous.
When they reach adulthood they finally realize why we need those stories about bright smiling heroes in the first place.
>>81818312
>capeshit is 2deep4u
>>81818242
Obama bombs children and then says the police is too brutal.
There's nothing wrong about superman, as far as he knows Batman is just a psyco that know has no control and put lifes in danger. While he pushed a WARLORD into a mud wall. Obama and the american goverment show hypocrecy, Superman in general in BvS is just trying to stop a violent guy from making things worst.
>>81818353
Why, should he look to Jesus instead?
>>81818298
>I'm not a NEET
He said, posting in a 4chan board...
>>81818365
>A young child like me
underage b&
>>81818353
/tv/ crossboarders shitting up /co/ for years to come thanks to the movies.
>>81818330
Dude you are just a dumb ass Johnsfanboy that can't understand how childish that shitty panel was. Snyder's Superman and Waid's are pretty much the same.
>>81818398
>He said, posting in a 4chan board...
I'm workposting bub. It's all the rage.
>>81818388
>>81818353
Guess how wrong you are
Spoiler, it's a lot
HTTP://wearebatman.com/
>>81818406
Nigger, I've been reading comics for 20 years. Even Grant Morrison thinks you're all stupid for being so obsessed with the Regan moment in ASS.
>>81818420
>workposting
Someone is going to be unemployed soon; no more candy and ponies for him.
>>81818406
When /co/ is so dumb it insist Lex didnt knew the identity of bruce or didnt understood the übermensch and Prometheus parts of the movie then it deserves to be mocked.
>>81817618
Statistically, you're talking out your ass.
We don't live in fucking Mad Max.
>>81818450
>all that passive agressivity
Why, dear anon?
>>81817558
Nobody wants "a dude" they want fucking Superman.
Batman is "a dude", just rich.
>>81818415
>Snyder's Superman
>Waid's Superman
>pretty much the same.
Holy shit you can't be this stupid
>>81818488
>Batman is "a dude", just rich.
I like how you can spot Johnsfags so easily.
>>81818445
Grant Morrison is fucking proud of the moment because of the people who came to tell him how impactful it was. Now that you're done, fuck off to /tv/.
>>81818445
>there are no good people anywhere those volunteer teacher who teaches in shitholes in Africa are actually cynical nihilist
Those teachers who barely get paid that teaches in public are sheeps.
All those volunteers that help with mentally challenged kids are evil, nihilistic, and dead inside.
>>81818535
That doesnt mean that poster isnt right.
>>81818529
I don't care about Johns, I just saw an opportunity to bash Batman.
>>81818515
He probably heard Man of Murder takes ques from Birthright and came to that conclusion. Filthy /tv/ poster.
>>81818546
He didnt said that. And neither did Superman in mos or bvs, and that's not what Snyder thinks.
>>81818460
When you defend shit movies you deserve to get ass cancelled.
>>81818549
That's what it absolutely means.
>>81817441
>>81817457
I am reminded of that one page in a story where it's revealed that Superman has a room full of letters in the fortress of solitude. One half of the room is from people he saved, the other half is from people asking why he didn't save people who were close to them.
For all Johns faults, he absolutely gets and nails Superman. His run with Gary Frank was the best Supes has been other than ASS. It's a shame it felt cut short.
>>81817822
Is he fighting /r9k/?
>>81818573
is that like a new euphemism for abortion?
>>81818573
But i didnt, neither did /tv/.
The movie is both bad and too smart for idiots from /co/ that need thought bubbles to understand motivations
>>81818581
How much do you get paid for shilling?>>81817770
>>81817746
>>81817618
>>81817934
>>81817441
It's true and not the first time that's been shown. He isn't a god.
>>81818642
>the board that wanks off to Morrison can't understand Snyder capeshit because 3deep5me.
>>81818298
Actual NEET here, I'm very, very, unhappy.
>>81818709
Follow OP's example: do nothing to solve your problems and just demand happy Superman stories. If it worked in the Great Depression, why not now too?
>>81818115
So, obligation?
>>81818145
But that's why he was able to write Irredeemable. He has such a solid understanding of Supes that he can freely play with the tropes.
>>81817457
is that JRJR? oh how the mighty have fallen
>>81817637
I said it long before the movie came out. Snyder made Hyperion not Superman. JMS Supreme Power has a very similar personality to the movies. Just in JMS run he got screwed over more.
>>81818758
To bad that he ruined Irredeemable
>>81818776
Dude, this s the second time he had a good writerthe first was Nocenti
>>81817751
back to /pol/ with you
>>81818157
Yes. He hears every thrust and moan of everyone having sex.
>>81818212
To be honest senpai, im a classic stoic, and even I know these fags are being edgey middle schoolers or are the truly sheltered ones. Happiness exists, Christ if it didn't then there would be no point. Some days im sure it is heavier one way or the other, but if so many people were truely hopeless in every city everywhere, why the hell would anyone even try?
Look, I live in Atlanta Georgia.We have a huge homeless problem, among some other things. Its a gritty city with a good bit of crime and a lot of rogue characters. But you know what? even they find meaning in their life. even they smile, and laugh, and have things and people they love. The level of cynicism described in this thread can not exist while people are still moving forward. Hell, this level of unhappiness isnt even biologically achievable. Look up the Hedonic treadmill.
>>81818900
>im a classic stoic
As in, you shut up and take it like a bitch?
>>81817628
>Johns has, or at least had the most creative control of any one man when it came to WB's use of DC properties. It's possible he lost the gig after Green Lantern fizzled out.
Not really. He was only a producer on Green Lantern in more of a glorified consultant role. I think the recent success of things on the TV side of things has elevated him to where he's starting to get some significant creative input.
Historically, he hasn't really been anything much than "the guy we brought in that wrote the comic books."
>>81818776
>drawing Superman whom he specifically was allowed to leave Marvel for because he loves Supes so much
>fallen
DC may not be good at handling Superman but he's still the biggest most important superhero in the history of the medium & genre.
>>81818949
In TV department he atleast gets to write some Flash episodes.
>>81818642
>The movie is both bad and too smart for idiots from /co/ that need thought bubbles to understand motivations
LOL I will never understand how even the most kool-aid Snyder defender swallowed this shill line that was derided before the movie even came out.
It's a movie about a guy who dresses up like a bat who got mad at an alien and fought him.
>>81818923
That daoism you idiot
>>81818923
Stoics refer to a group of greek philosophers and those who have similar thoughts on how to go about life.
The give you the extremely abridged version, stoics prepare for the worst in almost all situations. They prepare for terrible situations mentally in a (mostly futile) effort to be prepared for the great tragedies of life like the death of loved ones or the unexpected loss of a job. This also means though that they can constantly apreciate the good in their own life. the health of their loved ones, the joy that comes with the company of friends, all that sort of thing. Its a great philosophy to adopt, but its not perfect. Some people extend the philosophy to people, thinking the worst of anyone they meet and then letting them surprise them when they end up not so bad. I dont agree with that last part, but I would be lying if I did not mention it.
>>81819124
>stoics prepare for the worst in almost all situations
Welp, I guess you weren't prepared for a non-idealist Superman.
>the health of their loved ones, the joy that comes with the company of friends
Those things are more important than capes, anon.
If you ask me, I think stoicism is not your forte.
>>81819232
Oh, im not bothered by this superman. Im bothered by all the edge in the thread. So many people that are pretending that the world is so dark and grim, they are really missing the point.
No matter what, I can go back and read my big blue, I still have all my favorite issues.
>"Nothing stays good in this world" - a line literally uttered by motherfucking Superman in BvS
>all the retarded shit Zack Snyder has said in interviews in the last month
>people still defend Snyder's Murderverse somehow
>>81819514
>lives in a gritty city with a good bit of crime and a lot of rogue characters
>says the world is beautiful
You're a weapon seller, aren't you? Oh you cheeky bastard.
>>81818604
>For all Johns faults, he absolutely gets and nails Superman. His run with Gary Frank was the best Supes has been other than ASS. It's a shame it felt cut short.
This, so hard.
But if anything felt cut short, it was his New 52 run. It definitely felt like his departure was premature. My best guess is he wasn't interested in being a part of the Truth storyline, and I can't rightly blame him.
Guys, what if BvS had featured an idealist Superman... and it had bombed harder than it already did?Answer: you'd attack DC for not making a grim 'n' gritty Supes.
>>81819649
>you'd attack DC for not making a grim 'n' gritty Supes.
This would literally never happen.
>>81819632
We wouldn't get Truth if he was writing Senpai. He had to leave because he can only write one ongoing at a time.
>>81819676
Oh, you would.
>>81819649
If movie was actually goid, with satisfying characters. People at least on /co/ would blame audience. That's what we do when it comes to comics.
>>81819821
No, you wouldn't praise it. /co/ hates DC, always.
Reminder that world poverty rates have declined from ~95% in 1820 to ~50% today.
Reminder that crime has fallen world wide.
Reminder that there are fewer war deaths today that at any time besides the last few years
Reminder that we've eliminated Smallpox and Rinderpest, and almost eliminated Polio and Guinea Worm
>>81819840
Stop being a victim, sperglord. BvS was shit. Blame those who were actually responsible for making it
>>81819840
/co/ loves DC
/tvco/ hates DC
>>81819840
If you read comics, you know that's a lie. But you don't so why don't you Fuck off back to /tv/.
>>81819840
>No, you wouldn't praise it. /co/ hates DC, always.
Oh yeah, /co/ just takes massive shits on CW Flash. Or the DCAU. Or Batman BatB.
Fuck you.
I always view Superman as more of a mask he himself wears. That he tries to just be a reflection of what he feels is the best of humanity. He is the symbol of hope because he views humanity as hope.
>>81817596
It's not something DC can do. It's something WB needs to do. The problem becomes that the Snyders have enough money invested at this point that they can ignore whatever he says and do what they want...which is what I really think must be happening.
>>81819941
This. His real self is who he is when he's not wearing the cape. I wish films would focus more on this duality. It's an interesting aspect of the character.
>>81819840
Didn't we have several DC-related storytimes last night?
KEY THING some of you aren't quite getting, is that MOS/BVS's Clark doesn't think there is necessarily MORE bad things going on then happy things, its that bad things tend to be louder and blanket out the good things regardless if the good actually outnumbers the bad.
>>81817628
If you believe the Variety report this past weekend, WB still wanted him to be their Feige. Being that is a full time job on its own though, and what with his existing obligations to the comics side of things, as well as consulting and writing for The Flash and working with Batfleck, he doesn't have the time to do it.
At this point they should juat pull their head out of their ass and do the most obvious thing in the world, which is paying Timm whatever he wants to do the love action version of what he did for the DCAU.
>>81818157
Yes, Bruce. He can hear you fucking your clownfu.
>>81820032
You have link to that? Also Johns is absolute based if he denied that position.
>>81820032
Timmfags gtfo
>>81817558
Then why did Snyder make a Superman movie
>>81820115
>prove it
So you're a capeshit fag, not comic fan. Got it.
>>81817618
Sounds to me like Snyder has no right making a Superman movie bruv
>>81820178
>capeshit aren't comics
>>81820210
>muh rights
>>81817618
>he lives in a place where there is more than 1 crime for day
>>81820225
Capeshit movies are not comics, correct
>>81818212
edgy teen
>>81819877
Yeah, I wonder in what kind of hell-hole all these Anons live in.
Reminder that there have been multiple days in NYC with 0 murders
>>81820133
http://variety.com/2016/film/opinion/batman-v-superman-warner-bros-superhero-suit-1201749164/
>>81820165
Say what you will about the DCAU. I'm not saying I want the movies to be a clone of it. I don't. You can't deny though that Timm demonstrated the capacity to build and captain a shared superhero universe accessible to the unfamiliar, and embraced by fans well before Hollywood realized there were sheckels to be earned out of doing so. Johns and Feige had the same background initially. Johns decided to redirect to comics. Feige became a producer. If you don't want Johns in that capacity, Timm is by far the most obvious next choice IMO.
>>81819877
>>81820340
My my, someone is making America great again?
>>81817751
>>81818838
He's right. Most rural areas in America with 100% white populations have no police because there is literally NO crime.
If you have a computer and the time to shitpost on 4chan, you probably don't live in the dark and edgy world that Snyder depicts. The world isn't 100% amazing, but it's not a total hellhole where everything is perpetually awful unless you live in some 3rd world shithole where you get executed for not praying 3 times a day.
>>81820354
America is already great
>>81820357
>rural areas in America with 100% white populations
Now we know where OP comes from.
>>81820357
Also no money
Also a shit ton of meth or heroin, depending on your state
>>81819877
This. Also, people live longer, more people live in a democracy, and the GDP per capita of third world shitholes like Latin America has been exploding since the 90s.
The world is getting *better*.
>>81819877
>crime keeps falling
>life spans and standard of living keeps increasing
>every day a new amazing technology that improves our lives is invented
>"hurrr the world has gone to shit"
The world is objectively better than it's ever been.
>>81820393
So you're not voting for Trump? You Commie.
>>81820416
>more people live in a democracy
>the GDP per capita of third world shitholes like Latin America has been exploding since the 90s
Stick to moviemaking, Fox.
>>81820340
You might want to look more towards Chicago which is a much larger mess. But even than it can get those random days of no murders.
>>81820493
>those random days of no murders.
Dude, didn't you watch The Wire? No killing on Sundays!
>>81820393
Also this. Why do shitters buy that Trump crap?
>>81820487
It's true, though.
GDP stuff:
https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_pcap_cd&idim=country:MEX:BRA
REMOVE AMERIFAT remove amerifat
Seriously, fuck off school-shooters.
>>81820564
>the usual graph that /pol/ loves to post to defend unproved hypotheses
Looks legit.
>>81820553
Trump says he loves to be surrounded by stupid people. So, have a guess.
>>81820600
>Looks legit.
Indeed it does. You're welcome to check the source.
I saw no mention of the GDP issue, so I'll assume you conceded that point.
>>81820600
>Trump says he loves to be surrounded by stupid people
No fucking wonder he wants to be a President of the United States
>>81820493
I wouldn't be surprised if one of those random days of no murder were on those days where Mother Nature decided to be a whore and throw Chicago a snowstorm in the middle of spring.
>>81820368
>Live in Brazil
>Drug dealers own the favelas
>Police is violent as fuck (which is reasonable because the way criminals act around here)
>Politicians are so corrupt that more than half the congress answer for white collar crimes.
>Mfw people still "huehuehue" their asses off and have a great time, laughing every day
What the hell are these americans complaining about? Want to see a crime-ridden city? Go to Rio de Janeiro. It has its dark times, but people still laugh and have a good time.
>>81820165
Slash your fucking wrists snyderfags
If I saw Zack Snyder on the street I would kill him. This sweaty cokehead-looking motherfucker needs to die.
>>81820368
I live in Texas and there's a town near me on the edge of the border called Laredo. It may have internet and shit there but I wouldn't wish anyone to live there. Cartels have that place on lockdown and I remember watching the news when they had 8 beheaded people hanging from one of the bridges.
>>81820664
In fact, he says that being surrounded by stupid people makes him the smartest guy in the room. So yeah, wanting to be Prez is fucking logical here.
>>81820787
Son, the FBI is glad to know.
>>81820798
OP say you should fuck off and be stoic.
>>81820352
>“We need our Avengers now.”
Really all the problems can be sum up with that line. WB/DC is going way too fast for their own good. It's not like they are going to lose money if they take it as slowly as Marvel did. People would stand in lines waiting too see the next movie if people were excited. Instead they are just rushing everything. And with that no real buildup. No world building. No real character development.
Yeah people are excited just to see people like Iron Man and Captain America but without a good solid structure at the base everything falls apart.
Even if they are 7 years behind people will still love the movies and would rank in that billion dollar box office if done right. It's not like them being slightly behind would impact the sale figures. But sadly they put the cart before the horse and now having so little to really show for it.
>>81820884
The kikes at the FBI couldn't give a fuck about some greasy spic hack director m8
If not me then somebody's going to kill him. He's fucking dead.
>>81820934
>Marvel is decompressed
>DC isn't
And the problem was...?
>>81820958
Go on, please. Who are you, where do you live, what weapons do you have...?
>>81820934
>world building
>character development
>in the MCU
>>81821012
I'll stab Zack Snyder with a kitchen knife if I ever see him. I live in San Francisco.
People confuse facts with fiction a lot.
Just because we read and watch a lot of works of fiction that depicts an awful world to live in, that is a world of horrible crimes and people, doesn't mean 99% of the world is shit.
Of course things like psychopaths exist, but they are less than 1%. Violent crimes also exist, but unless you live in a zone of conflict, they are also very rare. If your job is like, being a cop, you'll also see these awful things a lot, but that's your job, not the majority of people are like that and unless you let that awful shit get the best of you, you won't become a cynic person. See, fiction needs drama and excitement, so it focus on emulating the dramatic events that exist in real life. But that doesn't mean the real world is like this.
We get the two mixed up because we are exposed to fiction during our leisure time and we rarely take the time to know the actual world we live in. Next time you're downtown, try asking a stranger for help. I doubt the person won't help you. People do have a need to find themselves as good individuals.
Do you know what is the hardest thing to do?
Wake up, go to work so you can have some money to raise your kids and help your family in the best way you can. And guess what? That's what 99% of us are doing right now.
>>81819068
>It's a movie about a guy who dresses up like a bat who got mad at an alien and fought him.
It's a movie about how the world would react to a deity walking among us and how the übermensch react to a living god.
>>81821072
We'll check that info. Thanks.
>>81821089
>I doubt the person won't help you
Mm, that really depends on where you live.
Midwest yes, coasts no
>>81821134
I'm willing to bet with you that people will help. "Big city folk are all a bunch of grumps" is a fucking meme.
>>81821201
Even people in small towns on the east coast are a bunch of grumps though
>>81821201
>"Excuse me, NY citizen, how do I go to the Statue of Liberty"?
>another tourist dies from a lynch mob
>>81821238
>>81821239
Just try it some time. I'm not saying to bother them, but ask for legitimate help.I doubt they won't indulge you.
>>81821201
>implying Ameriburgers are not a bunch of sociopaths
>>81821444
They're not. They're prudish, illiterate, greedy, arrogant... but sociopathic? Never.
>>81817457
Wait, shouldn't Jimmy have a bullet through his head?
>>81818811
What the fuck is wrong with Claremont?
>>81821596
>Jimmy Olsen gets shot in the head, execution style
That was just wrong. Snyder just goes out of his way to made Superman look bad. Why didn't he arrive at the nick of time? Because that would be too heroic? Fuck that shit.
>>81821596
>>81821690
What's worse is that they never actually say it's him. Just a quote saying how he wanted to have some "fun" with the character.
>>81821827
>Snyder's definition of fun
>is someone getting BTFO
Why am I not surprised.
>>81821827
>Killing a character like that is "fun".
Because when I think of "fun", I think of a man with a hole right between the eyes!
Snyder is such an awful person, god damn it. He's like a sheltered kid who never saw violence in his life and has no idea of how things really are and sees life through the scope of a video-game.
>>81821942
Because it's also /co/'s idea of fun, anon.
>>81821952
Be stoic, you'll live longer.
>>81821690
>Why didn't he arrive at the nick of time?
He probably got alerted at that point.
Also WHO GIVE A FUCK ABOUT CIA JIMMY??
If he is working for the CIA he deserves to die.
In the first place it means he was spying clark, and in the second being part of the CIA makes you by all definitions a terrible person willing to torture kids.
>>81821985
>If he is working for the CIA he deserves to die.
>>81821985
>he deserves to die
Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.
>>81822039
Anyone who has "King" as a surname deserves to be at least punched in the face.
>>81821985
>He probably got alerted at that point.
Bullshit.
>>81822080
I don't like Stephen King either.
>>81817618
>There is no city where sunshine and rainbows outmatch cries for help
Literally everywhere but Africa and the worst cities in the rest of the world
>>81817770
Fucking, shit. Do we need to break into a song? Because this looks like the time to break into a song.
>>81822144
>Literally everywhere
In your basement, maybe.
>>81822144
That Anon is probably a rich spoiled kid who thinks not getting a ps4 for christmas is the worst thing that can happen in life.
>>81822187
>In your basement, maybe.
In your ass maybe. My neighbor just came over here to offer me some cake. Feels good man.
>>81822039
Great writter, that doesnt mean he isnt a piece of shit that was willing to torture innocent people and to help destroy whole countries.
>>81817618
Jesus Christ! What kind of Hell hole do you live in?
>>81822213
>some cock
Fixed.
>>81817441
So he wants to make Sentry from Marvel comics
>>81817732
Lex pls
>>81822246
>So kind of him to offer me some cock. I turned it down, though, since I'm straight, but still, so toughtful of him. I hope he has a good day.
>>81822319
He'll be back...
>>81817777
quads confirm, Snyder a shit
>>81822290
Worse: Hyperion.
