Just marathoned this and I think it was the best animated superman film I've seen. Right up until the copout where superman goeslol my robot friends did it and the massive explosions and killing of everyone was all theatre.
Would have been ten times better if this was a bad end film or something where superman did actually kill them in a unhinged mental state and maybe seeing lois or something brings him back to normal.
So what should I think of this?
Film was alot of fun but it was also a mess to look at.
Also, Expy Jigen.
>>81697033
The art style an animation was leagues better than the majority of DCAU.
>>81696956
But the whole point of the superman robots is that Supes would never actually kill those people or the random bystanders, he was just making a point.
Had he actually done that shit and it was a bad end, the movie would have been a lot worse.
>>81696956
One of the few DC animated films I will revisit every six months or so. Love it every time.
>Holy Shit..BOOOM
I love it when Clark's voice actor goes full Sephiroth
I usually stop watching after Coldcast zaps Supes.
>>81697050
Doom was more consistent but was boring all around, First Flight was still the best looking DC DTV around.
>>81697033
>alot
Come on now
>>81697651
It was fun.
No idea how they straight faced a US vs UK battle where the US is the wholesome good guy who wont murder.
Dub was fucking great
>>81696956
Congratulations, you completely missed the point of the film!
>>81697797
Any movie made with an objective point or theme is in fact a flick.
But maybe this is cinema and you are too pleb to understand.
>>81696956
I'm conflicted about this story because its message is muddled. Superman's way is right, but largely ineffective. Manchester Black's way is wrong, but gets results, and would be better if it was more controlled. This movie tries to treat a gray area as black and white. Just because you're going to kill villains that are a threat to humanity doesn't mean you have to start being a tyrannical asshole. You could just follow the laws, but understand when it's permissible to use deadly force for the greater good. You know, like a police officer or something.
Basically this movie condones the use of a broken system just because it's morally correct. I'm sure the friends and families of the people that Atomic Skull casually vaporized would agree.
>>81697842
Yeah superman always had a shit moral that was shilled. Superman and Batman are both guilty of the shitty message that as soon as you kill one person you are bound to become a tyrannical killer who will kill anyone for anything no matter what. It's childish as fuck and I'm glad snyder said fuck you to that and made batman and superman realistic.
>>81697842
that's a slippery slope, manchester. Not everyone, or well, anyone, is superman.
Sometimes not even Superman..
>>81696956
>marathoned
>A movie
I can marathon 76 meters too. Wouldn't even break a sweat.
>>81697883
Hello, cancer. Please leave /co/
>>81697838
Go back to /tv/
>>81697883
Shouldn't you be in prison, Luthor?
>>81697838
Is /tv/ invading threads about animated movies now too?
>>81697842
>I'm sure the friends and families of the people that Atomic Skull casually vaporized would agree.
It's funny, I just watched Justice League vs Teen Titans, and once again, it's Atomic Skull who gets his ass kicked as a demonstration of superheroes going bad.
Does someone at DC have it in for him?
>>81697915
>>81697917
>>81697931
It's the epitome of limp wristed left wing rollover doctrine.
Superman would prefer you rollup in a ball and cry if an intruder breaks into your house as opposed to defending yourself. He promotes disarmament and would sooner see you dead than a criminal.
Fuck superman.
Manchester Black for president.
>>81697986
would sooner see you dead than the criminal.
fixed.
>>81697910
What's up with that? Are people just memeing or are attention spans so short that sitting through an entire movie is a "marathon" now?
>>81697883
With Batman I can understand the code. He's operating beneath the system, he's street level, and honestly I blame Gotham police for not popping a cap into Joker or any of his contemporaries.
Superman is on a higher level. He's entirely above the system. He wants to go on and on about how our system "works", but it's not fucking designed for gods and monsters and atomic atrocities. Superman needs to know when to intervene. A lot of comics actually show him having no stupid code about not killing, and understanding when his responsibility is to deal with a threat that human society cannot. Somewhere along the line, this bullshit of "I CAN NEVER TAKE A LIFE, HURRRR" became the golden rule, and it's fucking ruining the character. When was the first time this shit popped up? Morrison's Man of Tomorrow? Fuck that shit, it's cringeworthy BS that makes Superman seem like an impotent baby who doesn't understand how the world works.
>>81698021
the attention span of the average /tv/ user lasts ~13 minutes. Explains why they have even worse tastes than most of /co/.
>>81697986
The message of the film completely went over you head. The scene with Pa Kent is Jonathan literally telling Clark to kick their asses to kingdom come.
>>81698021
OP here. I will often have to take breaks during a movie or just pause it and finish it the next day. But this one held my interest well enough to do it all in one go. Quite the marathon for me.
>>81697755
Say it to my face you limey cunt. I'd take a big nation with rednecks in two corners than a small nation with fucking chavs in every corner.
>>81697910
"Marathoned" is a stupid /tv/ meme used for shitposting threads, for example some anon would star a thread like this:
>I've just marathoned the first 5 minutes of 2001 An Space Odyssey,when does it gets good? this is shit only redditors would like it
or
>I marathoned Satantango in 10 minutes using VLC with 8x fastforward speed, you were right,a timeless kino
So we know we're getting invaded, t-thanks to Super Hero movies popularity...
Oh Christ. This thread is just a political and moral time bomb waiting to explode.
>>81698050
do you get distracted by passing butterflys and cars and shit?
How on earth do you get anything done? There's no way you could appreciate any media you intake.
>>81698049
No the message of the film was if you are a demi god like superman you have the privilege of not needing to kill your enemies.
And if a mortal tries to fix things for his fellow humans, well superman doesn't like you messing up his petting zoo so he'll put you down.
Superman is anti self defense, anti self determination, anti human rights. He's not the american way at all.
>>81698088
I appreciate it if it's good enough to hold my attention span. And my attention span may be bad, but my memory is usually pretty decent so I can pick something up midway weeks later, which often happens.
>>81698090
holy moley. how can anyone be this...wrong?
It's cancer incarnate in post form.
>>81698030
>honestly I blame Gotham police for not popping a cap into Joker or any of his contemporaries.
Let's face it, an IRL Joker would have an "accident" after arrest, if not before.
>>81698156
I know you're a supercuck so don't bother. You'll defend your jewish superhero to the grave.
Just know that superman tried to preach against "might makes right" while using his might to enforce the "right" way onto the population of earth. You missed the message.
>>81696956
>marathoned
>a movie
Where did this meme come from?
>>81698217
/tv/ friend, like most cancer
>>81696956
> superman did actually kill them in a unhinged mental state
Irredeemable live action movie when?
>>81698320
>Irredeemable live action movie when?
Justice League releases 2017.
>>81697842
>I'm sure the friends and families of the people that Atomic Skull casually vaporized would agree.
Just wait until those people find out that Superman had a machine that can de-power people the entire time and never bothered to use it.
>>81698156
Please explain the message. I'm not saying you don't know it, I just want to see your argument laid out.
>>81698405
>Superman had a machine that can de-power people the entire time and never bothered to use it.
I think the argument for that is that certain superfreaks are so fundamentally altered at the genetic level their powers can't be removed (Livewire, Atomic Skull, Clayface) while only slightly meta humans have more leeway.
>>81698416
>Superman is anti self defense, anti self determination, anti human rights.
If I need to spell out why this is wrong about superman, perhaps the whole '/co/ doesn't read comics' thing is truer than I thought.
>>81696956
How does one "marathon" a movie dipshit
>>81698463
The thing is, "comics" is a broad fucking term. There have been hundreds of interpretations of Superman in these "comics". Depending on what you've read and from what era, you can come across a plethora of different attributes that make up the character.
>>81698463
Instead of defending your argument or explaining it in any meaningful way your pointed at someone else's points about being "anti-self defense" and "anti human rights". After which you insulted your audience by saying we don't read comics when I've damn well read Action Comics #775. Get fucked.
>>81698337
> Justice League
Fuck that. Every Superman rogue story:
> Superman goes evil
> Protagonist gets secret stash of Kryptonite
> Superman loses
The Plutonian doesn't have any mary sue weakness. Everybody just fucking dies.
That's what we need. A superhero horror film.
>>81698463
This thread is about a movie. Not comics.
>>81698599
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3glBey3XCU
Good God this thread reeks of cynical, depressive /tv/ shit.
>>81698463
Not that I have any horse in this race, but people can read comics without reading Superman (or capes in general, really).
>>81698599
Paranormal Activiry 4 sort of did that. It won't be long before someone run fully with the idea.
>>81698748
yes, but even people who have never read a comic in their lives know that Superman isn't anti self defense, anti self determination, anti human rights.
>>81698798
The main version of Superman, yes.
>>81698809
..and what version other than that one are we talking about? because that sure as hell was 'The main version of Superman' in the film
>>81698690
>wanting a hero with a practical, appreciable understanding of authoritative responsibilities instead of preschool bullshit of "KILLING IS WRONG!!!!" is not cynical and depressive.
Just how sheltered are you manchildren? Holy fuck, grow up. The funniest part is that this "no kill rule" bullshit that you faggots keep jerking off over for whatever reason only came around because of the Comics Code Authority. It's not like the creators actually thought it was a good idea to make heroes who are fucking impotent.
>>81698889
>trying this hard
>>81698864
I dunno, I'm just saying that Superman has had tons of different interpretations (John Byrne, anybody?) and that's not even counting Elseworlds. So just because somebody doesn't know one version of Superman doesn't mean they don't read comics.
>>81698644
This was awesome.
>>81698940
>realizing that you're wrong and have no counter-argument, so you just post a meme
>>81699068
anon, you don't have to try and bait with literally every single comment you make here.
>>81698953
This. I'm not sure how people think "THE COMICS" puts forth just one single characterization of Superman. That's the true sign of someone who doesn't actually read the comics. Or maybe it's just the sign of a retard
>>81699100
>"I'm really in it now. I've got nothing to say, I'm so immensely incorrect in my manchild ways. Better just accuse him of baiting. Yeah, that'll do it..."
>>81698090
Careful with that edge kid.
>>81698030
>When was the first time this shit popped up?
Oldest known example that I know of.
>>81697838
/tv/ pls.
>>81698889
>The funniest part is that this "no kill rule" bullshit that you faggots keep jerking off over for whatever reason only came around because of the Comics Code Authority.
I'm looking over the 1954 code. While it does forbid scenes of torture and depravity, it makes no mention of killing. Presumably if Superman choked the shit out of Luthor or vaporized him, it would fly under the code's otherwise pretty stringent radar.
>>81697558
>tfwPOP
>>81699490
That wouldn't be able to fly under the code's radar, killing without providing a trial is against the law and crimes were never allowed to be portrayed in a way to create sympathy for the criminal, or promote distrust for the forces of law and justice. In this Case superman is doing the latter by suggesting it's justified to go outside the system to deliver personal punishment.
>>81699501
ORBIT.
HE WENT INTO ORBIT.AT MACH 7
>>81699827
>>81699501
>>81697558
Supes can be a scary mother when he wants to.
>>81698599
If you think about it, every horror is a superhero movie minus the heroes
>>81696956
Congratulations, you are The Elite, and you missed Superman's entire point.
I wanna watch this movie again. It was great. Thanks for reminding me, guys.
I didn't like it because it had the Korra problem - The bad guys go full villain, so the actual moral issue they bring up (killing villains) is ignored.
>>81700792
Haven't seen much of Korra, but I don't see how it's ignored here when the ends with Superman pretending to kill villains to show why he actually doesn't/shouldn't.
>>81700792
> I don't like it because the bad guys are bad guys
Not everything has to have a gorrillion different shades of grey in it, mate.
>>81700873
Introducing a moral dilemma and never actually touching on it is a cop-out and leaves you with a story that doesn't actually say anything.
>>81698030
God you're a dumbass with no real understanding or investment in a character you aren't even very well familiar with but feel the need to critique. I can't stand people like you.
>>81698320
>>81698599
>Irredeemable movie
>A superhero horror film.
THIS
All those posts and no one mentioned how great the INTRO is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMahz1OrFhs
>>81699501
>>81699915
Superman went full Sephiroth.
Helps he's voiced by George Newbern.
>>81696956
>i just marathoned a single movie
speaking of dc movies i just marathoned this one. Is karate Kid the worst piece of shit ever?
>>81696956
Meh, sounds like you missed the point.
