Being a manga artist...
THIS IS MY LIFE SO DON'T GET IN MY WAY
I'M HERE TO STAY-A-AY
>>81688430
>>81688708
what is this? It looks like someone tried to make a manga-esque style, but doesn't actually know how manga works. Not that I do personally just doesn't look right.
Being a comic artist with a work space that looks like someone in the 90's threw up over it.
>>81688627
IF YOU THINK YOU'LL SLOW ME DOWN!
I DON'T WANT YOU HANGING AROUND!
IT'S A GREAT TIME TO BE A TEEN!
>>81688430
I forgot about devianart the series
>>81688762
It's what happens when you let deviantart onto canadian television.
I didn't hate the premise, but the execution was horrendous.
>>81688924
I remember this coming out around the same time as MLP. And I remember some people around /co/ trying to make this the next MLP.
>>81688762
Westerners seem to never be able to do it right.
>>81688993
It was a hellish time of nonstop shitnadoes and Roasty fuckery.
I loved it.
>This is considered lost media now
>>81689049
Even that is better than /co/'s current state.
>>81688430
I love/hate Western "anime styled" art, especially if it's poorly drawn, and porn.
>>81689037
A few people seems to get it right but apparently they aren't in the animation industry. I wonder why they don't just hire a Japanese studio when they are trying to do western anime...
>>81689037
A phenomenon that baffles me to this day.
>>81689037
I've known plenty of pretty decent western artists that can capture the anime style.. but they are always shy and self loathing.
Somehow the shitty artists always manage to be cocky and boisterous enough to convince people that they are good and never seem to get any better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E5bBy4oqsw
>>81692036
Do you have any examples? I assume there must be artists who can pass themselves off as Japanese, but I've never seen it (as far as I know).
>>81692188
If Russia is considered western I know a western artist who can draw just like a good Japanese doujinshi artist.
But for some reason most of the western artists, even competent ones, have some characteristic traits that makes their art different from Japanese ones. I guess their foundations are different and a western artist can use his high skill to emulate the style but like video game emulation to be able to emulate perfectly a console you need a much more powerful machine. Maybe the fact that Japanese writing system is that freaking complicated thing have something to do with it as Chinese artists can do it just fine.
>>81689037
Because people who try to do the style seriously use those shitty "how to draw anime" books to teach them, while everyone else intentionally draws it shit to make fun of all the cliches anime has going for it, like massive eyes.
>>81688430
i bet there's some japanese people somewhere that just love this show ironically
it'd make good criteria for a drinking game
>>81689037
Avatar looks like anime to the point where I considered finding a japanese dub with english subtitles.
>>81693249
It looks anime-like, but not quite like the real thing.
>>81693153
>Maybe the fact that Japanese writing system is that freaking complicated
Might be onto something. Being taught calligraphy as part of your language system must do wonders for people's basic competence at line width
>>81688430
>>81688708
>>81688865
Is this a woman or a very effeminate man?
>>81693947
Would fuck anyway.
>>81688865
The show may be weeaboo garbage but those girls make my dick diamonds.
>>81693947
A girl.Unfortunately.
>>81688762
See for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fj58MNVFjs
Warning, you might get cancer
>it's been almost 5 years
>>81696287
>>81696233
watched one minute of it and it is like if they got a how to draw manga book and feel like they need to use those effects all the time. It would work as a parody, but anime parody is pointless as we already have all these ones trying to emulate anime and ending with caricatures.
>>81688865
It looks wrong but i cant pin point why, maybe the lack of depth
>>81696764
This was my first anime, i remember being 7 or so and watching it, it was nonsense but good
>>81688865
>>81688762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QINo8niaR5w&nohtml5=False
>>81698564
10/10 would reel in disgust
MANGOS
>>81698477
Besides the style. The eyes are too separated, also there no shadows whatsoever so like you said there's no depth.
>>81698771
>enter
oh fuck off
>>81699191
I thought /co/ liked enter?
>>81699759
/co/ has NEVER liked enter.
>>81696233
I...I had never seen this before.
Why would you do this to me
>>81688430
>Being a manga artist...
>>81699759
>Mr.Enter review
>IT'S MWEAN SPIWITED!
Someone say yari?
>>81700043
Seems fun, whats the pay actually like
>>81693249
Avatar resembles anime but the dramatic and comedic timing is very different.
>>81700075
>>81692094
This show is so terrible, I can't even jack off to the good fanart people made of it. I just look at the characters and lose all libido, like magic.
>>81696233
it's this from the same artist as serenity?
>>81688430
>this was exactly how you saw yourself in middle school
>>81700122
A quick google says average gross 35K, that's before cost.
>>81698771so is /co/ gonna like My Life Me unironically now?
>>81700290
For japanese mangaka? Thats pretty shit wow
Is there anything you faggots won't watch?
>>81698564
kek
>>81700948
It's as crazy time to be a teen
>>81700948
Fanboy and chum chum and breadwinners.
>>81700785
I think many manga artists are amateurs having their first chance of being published. I mean, they send their works and some of them are selected so they are published. It is not that uncommon to see a manga starting with a amateur art level and improve as the manga goes. This can work because manga is published in phone list thick magazines with many different authors in the same magazine and is good because it is constantly bringing new ideas and authors to the medium. The inconvenience is that it limits severely the use of color and the art can be pretty unpolished depending on the author skill level.
>>81701188
Damn thats a good system, if only a similar thing exsisted for western comics instead of rehashed ober the top quality art
>>81700948
> mfw when the greatest MLM price of fan art is a picture saying /co/ has no taste.
>>81701381
This is why manga is in black and white and just have a few colored pages. Every issue they give the spotlight to one artist and he makes some colored pages for his manga that is published together with tons of other mangas. To make it accessible they have to be in cheap paper and in black and white. This system also makes the readers buy a huge block with lots of different stories from different authors in it if they want to read the last issue of his favorite manga so they end up knowing about the other stories too giving a little known artist to become famous. Latter the manga can be republished in a book format containing only it for people to read it/collectors.
This is why new writers boom from time to time. When a story is interesting, even if nobody ever heard about the author before it have the chance of being published together with other famous authors and even with another popular series so it can get some collateral public and boom.
I'll always remember this because "sea of little dicks" and that online comic editor
>>81689077
>This is considered lost media now
I guess it's unfortunate in a way
All those good memories lost like tears in the rain
F
Canada I believe some sort of apology is in order.
>>81689077
Explain
>>81702488
I think what he means to say is that it was never officially released on DVD and you can only find some episodes online now, and I don't think all 52 episodes are available, only a portion.
In addition, I'm 1000% sure that it will never rerun anywhere, meaning that it's pretty much lost forever somewhere, and I have doubts they would keep the original tapes in a vault
>>81688862
meanwhile steven jewniverse is from tumblr,bravo.
>>81700034
I wonder what ever happened to her.
>>81693153
>If Russia is considered western I know a western artist who can draw just like a good Japanese doujinshi artist
Is it Ilya Kuvshinov?
>>81698564
Please tell me this is a /co/ troll edit. Else I may have to kill myself in disgust
>>81704734
It's an edit, but please do so anyway.
>>81700251
>tfw you were in full weeb phase in middle school
>tfw you actually tried to learn japanese
>tfw your anime taste was supremely shit yet you thought it was cool shit
Thank you sweet God for not letting anyone record all the autistic shiut I did
>>81693249
It's Korean animators that worked on it I think
How did my life me even get a cartoon? Surely Canada has better talent than that?
>>81708278
I remember watching the Ocanada section on cartoon network. If that is any indication, no they don't
>>81708278
The creator said they made it for their daughter who was big into DeviantArt and manga at the time. Also the show was from Quebec so it was originally written in french and the translation seemed a bit off.
Fun fact: The Donkey Kong cartoon was also originally a french language production.
>>81699794
enter is a autistic faggot
>>81704847
if you think your taste in anime is shit then then you're not exactly helping your image now. then again you're on 4chan why do have some concept of shame.
>>81711977
so that's why they lip syncing was so bad. I thought it was just the CG
>>81704847
>tfw you were in a half weeb phase in high school
>tfw actually learned japanese
>tfw patrician taste
>>81688762
The only good Animu the west has mad is Avatar, Boondocks, and Kappa Mikey.
>>81713050
>tfw lying to impress people on 4chan
>>81713205
>tfw it looks like I'm lying 'cause I'm too good to be true
>>81713324
>Patrician taste
>Joseph
>>81700124
The drama is inferior, the comedy is superior.
>>81700177
I wish it was.
>>81713183
SU is honestly the only western show that actually feels like an anime. TBQH fampai.
>>81688865
Canada rustles my jimmies
>>81713183
HEY HEY
LOOK LOOK
OUT IN THE STREET
>>81689077
What's lost exactly?
>>81714225
DO YOU SEE THE MAN
>>81713183
>>81714225
>>81714338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzqXFfPg6UE&nohtml5=False
This show was so god damned based.
>>81700034
was she offended because /co/ makes fun of her shitty animu rip off?
>>81696233
Why is it always the goth/emo-looking kids always into fucking art and shit? They're too busy smoking weed in high school to care about art.
>>81696233
>it's totally normal in Canada for cousins to smack asses
>>81689077
Seriously, how did that happen? How did most episodes not get saved by some /co/ anon?
>>81696287
>remember being around during the MLM panic
>don't actually know exactly what happened
What shows that are no longer on air had the best intros/themes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WFoUchg6sw&nohtml5=False
That base at the beginning is great.
>>81713183
What about Teen Titans?
>>81704847
>tfw you decided to stop watching everything Japan delivers and develop some criteria
>tfw you decide to grown up for your own good
>tfw hal of your college partners are weebs, otakus and have some kinda asian fixation
>tfw when even when you are surrounded by weirdos, you are still a fucking outcast
>>81713998
because is a rip off
>>81688430
>its a crazy time to be a team
thats when i shot myself and started my transcendence into the atomically resonance
>>81715105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3JUB1L82Kk&nohtml5=False
This was the best. This is objective fact.
>>81715472
Something about the singing, like the modulation, just screams early 2000's.
>>81704847
>tfw hid my weeb power
>started comic club in college
>we discuss manga as well as comics
>anime club catches wind of this
>anime club leader wanted to join forces
>in front of all our club members he says "Ohayoo!"
>tell him it's not morning
>he says that's a standard greeting in Japan
>tell him no it means "Good morning. Look it up."
>Clubs never joined and became the anime/comics club
Thank god. We discussed manga but never weebed out, just talked about things like panel structure and expression. Now I only weeb out if I have a few drinks and even then it must be around another weeb.
>>81715292
I remember this sticky when a bunch of people started calling everything the next MLP because they hated it.
>>81700043
Most mangas are mouthy or biweekly anyway. So this isn't all that accurate to the average mangaka schedule
>>81715641
This is now a thread for 2000's cartoons themes.
reminder that 2006 was a decade ago.
https://youtu.be/WREobnmYO4M
Do you think I'm going to let you go this whole thread and not remind you people of the time you tried to spam this show on /a/?
>>81715759
>That sequel anime where Stitch just up and leaves Lilo
why
>>81713050
>Thinking a meme series is patrician
>>81715759
https://youtu.be/60-etRy0dg8
>>81715832
Because he thought she left him first.
>>81715652
good man
>>81715918
I know but surely Stitch would have more faith than that.
>>81713998
Pfft.
There's no western series that feels Japanese honestly.
https://youtu.be/bJIMIASx1t4
>That god awful CGI in the first intro
It looked so good back then
>>81715840
JoJo is for anime what Wagner is for classic music. It's both entry and exit level. It's both pleb and patrician, depending on how you look.
ITS A CRAZY TIME TO BE A TEEN
Why is liking anime synonymous with being a gigantic faggot? Why can't you just like something and maybe take some inspiration from it without being gay about it?
https://youtu.be/2KWeKZyxEZA
>That huge budget jump in season 3
>I wonder where Lil' Romeo is these days?
https://youtu.be/p3RMOO1lP-I
>The only legacy this show has is the fact that people want to fuck the loli
Truly a sad fate.
Not that it's the only one to suffer it.
>>81713556
Fuck where can I find a nice pic like that for the other JoJos?
>>81696233
Man, why does Canada suck so bad in regards to animation?
>>81715759
It feels totally off that MLM isn't actually from a decade ago.
>>81717538
it's all government funded, and as we all know the government can never match private corporations in quality
>>81716032
It doesn't feel Japanese specifically, but it is clearly aiming at the aesthetic in ways that most western productions don't really attempt.
>>81716307
>JoJo is for anime what Wagner is for classic music
How? I mean Wagner is super bombastic and everyone knows Valkyrie and the Lohengrin bridal chorus, but how many people do you know who'd actually appreciate what Tristan and Isolde did in full or could even manage to sit through a full Ring cycle?
Jojo at best hints at the possibility of depth, but it's fundamentally the forerunner of everything that makes modern shounen shounen, and in a way that's every bit that dumb.
>>81718044
jojo is the quintessential Japanese Comic Book. it has a classic cape comic feel with less bullshit and is more obtuse in a good way.
>>81700948
Yes, but you don't know about it because it's never discussed.
https://youtu.be/-tp_uDPCRY8
>>81716383
The issue is that the kind of people who proclaim their love of anime IRL are exactly that kind of faggot and just attract other faggots. It is possible to find cliques of anime lovers who aren't like this, but it's hard to do and you'd be wasting your time at whatever local anime club/con that exists.
>>81715277
No, because Teen Titans Go.
Did this seriously get 52 episodes?
https://youtu.be/GZiB_S9VpiU
>Everyday when I got home from school
Sweet, sweet nostalgia goggles.
>>81718191
Hypercrisis is real.
>>81718182
So, the fandom is essentially shit is what you're saying?
>>81692094
This was on television?
https://youtu.be/yCOkcKqLdY8
>>81718115
>jojo is the quintessential Japanese Comic Book
No. It is the quintessential shounen, you'd be right about that, but it hardly encompasses the positive qualities of manga in general.
>it has a classic cape comic feel
Oh, so that's the angle you're coming from?
>>81714338
IS KAPPA MIKEY
>tfw never had an anime phase
Now if only I could go back in time and prevent myself from having an edgy atheist phase
>>81718422
>Never had an anime phase
>never had an edgy atheist phase
What else am I missing?
>>81718191
According to wikipedia half of those are mini episodes.
As usual r34 is the third suggestion in google
https://youtu.be/jvRlyA3uUW0
This ran into the 2000's right?
>That movie to close out the series
Fucking phenomenal
>>81718384
>quintessential shounen
It's not even a shounen anymore. If you're gonna use a demograph as a description of a genre. At least try to get it right. Even if it was a shounen what does that even mean? Dragon Ball, Slam Dunk , Yu Yu Hakusho and Jojo were at some points all shounen. They are completely different from one another.
>>81691770
I'm a manga fan, and by that I mean I follow more than the shonen shlock you see peddled on toonami. I've put some thought into it. I think its because when an actual manga artist goes about learning to draw they don't try an imitate anything, they learn to draw and develop a style, the fact that it looks like it belongs in a manga is because they naturally pick up Japanese design sensibilities and don't have to try and force it. Western artists are stuck trying to imitate a "style" and it ends up being bad.
Honestly, people need to understand that there isn't one manga style just like there isn't one western style. Compare stuff like One Piece to Berserk or Shoujo manga to Keyman and you'll see that the one animesque/manga style is a false preconception held by people who only take a passing glance at whats drawn.
>>81718451
Gamer phase?
"I'm white and middle class enough to be black if I want to be" phase?
Skater phase?
>>81713690
Avatar is upper mid-tier action shonen when it comes to drama. You find its comedy to be better because you have western sensibilities.
>>81718451
Did you have a "I suck my friend's dicks but only because they ask me to and I respect that. I'm not gay." phase?
>>81717538
I've seen some Canadian animation that's better than I would expect. Not a lot, though.
The problem is more that this show is a time-displaced relic from the dark age of the weeby mid-2000's.
>>81718384
>It is the quintessential shounen
Is it really, though? I always thought it was more seinen.
>>81718530
Gamer phase, I got that one. I'm not white and have no desire to be black either. And I haven't broken a bone yet, and I don't wanna start.
https://youtu.be/NybAWQZcXCQ
Oh shit, we goin EARLY 2000's now
>>81717722
Ya now I remember, its to protect what little of a market we have here.
>>81716694
He went to college and does commercials for said college. If I remember correctly Bow Wow was pissed at him for it.
>>81696233the animation actually isn't that bad
>>81718575
Nah. I'm comfortable enough in my sexuality to say I'd suck dicks.
>>81718422
You're probably too young or too old. The big period for "anime phases" was the mid-2000s, so if you were a teen during that period, there's a good chance it would've hit you like a ton of puberty bricks.
>>81702335
>>81701188
Its also worth mentioning that manga magazine are also dirt cheap. Like five dollars for a brick containing 20 different series cheap.
https://youtu.be/LSgy8Loi1c8
>you'll never taste that chuggafreeze with your friends.
>>81718704
It's printed on newsprint and is black and white. It's as cheap as you can get, the going right is less than 700 en.
>>81718584
>I always thought it was more seinen.
Seinen is probably the most nebulous Jap demographic content wise. The works that are collectively considered seinen have almost nothing in common aside from the fact that they are. Shoujo and shounen have a bunch of stuff that you can point to and say are representative of their mainstream content.
https://youtu.be/-a6Zb3oL0cM
I've always especially liked this one because it's basically what happens to every single one of my groups campaigns. The one time the more edgy member tried to DM and take everything to Grimderp town we all went out of our way to lighten it up.
>>81718800
>Shoujo and shounen have a bunch of stuff that you can point to and say are representative of their mainstream content.
If you ever needed something to point at, I would say Bebop is the most representative example for westerners.
>>81718697
Yeah me too. I just want to make sure my friends know I'm NOT gay because I did them a favor.
>>81718451
gay phase?
>>81719025
IT'S NOT A 'PHASE' DAD
>>81718907
Bebop is anime original, and thus doesn't fall into manga demographics.
>>81719112
Finally, someone with a brain.
>>81698477
Slapping characteristics of anime/manga together to make cheap imitation without understanding the fundamentals of 3d objects and figure drawing.
>>81719140
Isn't it fun watching /co/ try to discuss manga? They have no idea what they're talking about.
>>81719165
The first part is right. Slapping together tropes from japan without knowledge of how they really work is the problem. Personally, I don't have a problem with westerners borrowing from Japan and I don't think think it matters if they get the techniques. But, that era of copying anything Japanese back in the aughts was awful.
>>81719251
Yeah, It's almost like the people posting on the western cartoon and comics broad don't read or watch much manga and anime.
Such a weird coincidence.
>>81719315
I understand that. But have the good grace to know when you're out of your depth. Discussing what the most iconic anime or manga is, is a little silly, don't you think?
>>81719315
That's fine if they don't know. I just wish they didn't act so obnoxious about it.
>>81700948
Kamen Rider
I jerked off to this show.
>>81720281
I became a tripfag for this show.
>>81719112
Not even the manga?
>>81720451
>as seen on tv
the manga's an adaptation, stupid
>>81721120
Still a manga.
>>81721120
I know, but it's bizarre to suggest that an adaptation can't have a target demographic. Are they just selling manga to tulpas and ghosts now?
Also, I'd never actually seen the manga before, and the art style is way more shoujo than I would've expected.
>>81720281
We all did.
>>81693947
Yes
>>81717538
They legally need a certain percentage of Canadian shows or some bullshit so they churn out a bunch of cheap, low effort shit to fill the gaps.
>>81704847
I'm glad that my disgust for anime developed at a young age. I can definitely see an alternate version of myself developing into a neet weeabo if left unchecked.
>>81713008
Yep. Another thing people tend to forget is that Rareware pushed for the show, not Nintendo.
>>81722069
>my disgust for anime
In what sense? Like I totally get having a dismissive attitude to the whole Japan Is Awesome line of thinking and being reasonably critical of the bulk of it, but just outright hating anime on principal seems to be something that only old religious dudes who imagine it's all about selling plastic shit to little boys seem to really do.
>>81718191
In a world where Johnny Test can have more than 100 episodes, anything is possible.
>>81722349
I was only exposed to mainstream anime and I hated most of them. My parents where kind of strict so I wasn't allowed to watch any of the decent stuff on Adult Swim so that was my only experience with it, outside of the gigantic weeaboos in middle school. I thought DBZ was the most boring shit I've ever watched despite nearly everyone I knew loving it.
>>81688430
>>81688708
She looks like the most typical weeb ever.
>>81702396
search "Mi vida y yo" on youtube
all chapters in spanish (mexico)
i dont know about "lost media"
>>81722516
>gigantic weeaboos in middle school
>I thought DBZ was the most boring shit I've ever watched despite nearly everyone I knew loving it.
Yeah, that's completely reasonable. I wouldn't blame anyone surrounded by DBZ and Inuyasha fanatics for wanting to get far away from it. It is possibly to approach anime in a healthier way though.
>>81718451
Winger phase
>>81711977
>The creator said they made it for their daughter who was big into DeviantArt and manga at the time.
Ok, that makes a little more sense then. Like, it otherwise makes no sense that such a thing would be so mired in western cartoon cliches.
>>81722752
I'll watch the odd anime or read the rare manga every now and again but I also dislike the general way most anime/manga draw faces. Anything that comes close to what Strongbad describes as anime is shit I can't stand.
>>81714442
was this show really any good? /co/ seems to like it a lot, but I never bothered with it because of how cheap it looks
>>81723636
It's fantastic. It's also absolutely cheap as hell, but it almost in an ironic way. It's effectively Americans bashing on japan in a good natured way. Sort of like when they add in an American character who is literally just Elvis or a cowboy who swears a lot.
>>81688430
... is impossible if you are not japanese
>>81700785
That's just for getting serialised.
The real money in the manga business is in the tankobons, aka. the volume releases.
Unlike America, mangaka generally get to maintain ownership and rights of their works so once they publish the books, they keep a bigger portion of the sales instead of getting like 10 cents a book like in America.
So there's a lot of motivation to put out something good that'd interest readers enough to buy books a year or so later after you start.
>>81717538
>>81717722
I blame Quebec.
It's always Quebec.
They hog all the funding then cry foul when we bitch at them for wasting it.
>>81722069
Real talk if you don't like Xabungle, G Gundam, Ghost Stories dub etc. you just have bad taste.
>>81725275
I like the Ghost Stories dub, but that was just a shitty and forgettable anime that got dubbed over with funny jokes.
Never even heard of Xabungle before now. As for Gundam, I only have a few hazy memories of various Gundam shows from my childhood. I preferred the more serious series over G Gundam however, I recall not liking it to a certain extent but like I said I can barely remember shit about it.
Cowboy Bebop still remains my favorite anime, as pleb as it may be.
>>81725456
Well Xabungle takes the piss out of everything.
If you get the chance you should watch it.
And try watch Ginguiser as well.
>>81688430
>>81688708
This seemed like a cute show at the time. I'll never understand /co/'s rage over it.
>>81725582
...I actually have to agree with this.
Yeah the anime cliches are stupid and the show is kinda dumb... but fuck me, I still enjoyed it.
That or I just have shit taste in general.
>>81725582
Personally the art and animation style reminded me too much of Martin Mystery and I fucking hated that show.
>>81724665
>The real money in the manga business is in the tankobons, aka. the volume releases.
Western floppies have been written for the trades for years, so that's not a uniquely foreign thing. The creator relationship definitely is, though.
>>81718698
For me it was around 1998 - 2004.
>>81727207
Yeah, late 90s to mid 2000s is probably more accurate. It started with Pokémon and Toonami, basically.
>>81721508
The manga's target demographic IS shoujo. It ran in a shoujo magazine. If it had run in a shounen magazine then its target demographic would be shounen.
>>81725456
Try watching Jin-Roh, can't go wrong with nazi power armor
