What would happen if Civil War was a DC comic's event?
Who would be on the Proregistration & anti-registration side?
But the Justice Lords and the Cadmus arc in the DCAU was basically the not-retarded version of Civil War.
Even with their general distaste for being wielded by the state, the heavyweights in the superhero community, even just the American ones, understand the importance of being held accountable for their behavior and actions.
A Superman that acts like he's only accountable to himself is how all the bad universes start.
>>81674200
>What is the JSA?
The HUAC happened and the JSA disbanded quietly after making relatively civil testimony in court, short end to a short story.
In general, the civilians approve of capes enough to give them the benefit of the doubt and stand down, and not do the whole negative zone thing as long as everyone keeps their end of the bargain.
>>81674200
It would be even more out of character than it was at marvel
>>81674200
Civil War in DC would basically be the Justice League trying to reign in out-of-control vigilantes.
>Kingdom Come
>>81674200
It'd last about five issues before everyone realizes it's Lex Luthor plot to destroy the Justice League and everyone gangs up on him.
>>81674200
JSA The Golden Age already did this
>president forces all superheroes to either register with the US government and be accountable to them, or unmask and disband
>president turns out to beThe Ultra-Humaniteand his flagship superhero who is the public face of registration isthe brain of Hitler in a superpowered bodyso everyone teams up to beat the shit out of them at the end.
It's a really good book.
>>81674200
I can't really see any DC superheroes being as absurdly pro-reg as Marvel heroes got
it would probably be Lex Luthor and a few lackeys are pro-reg and the heroes are all anti
>>81674200
>What would happen if Civil War was a DC comic's event?
/co/ would go out of it's way to defend it.
>>81676201
As other people have noticed, the Justice League and the JSA have already had conflicts with the American and other world governments, it's not like it would build to some sort of huge event that people would draw sides on, there's more nuance between individual stances on the issue.
>>81674200
Funny, I was just thinking about this the other day
>>81675312
Thread
People keep talking about that JSA story and the old DCU status quo are ignoring the fact that nu52 DC is all shitty about superheroes like Marvel is.
>>81676527
Compared to the stuff Marvel civilians have done,the angry New 52 DC civilians seem like rational people.
>>81676631
New 52 civvies started out as assholes, but that's gone by the wayside in the meantime.
I chalk it up to the fact that when the New 52 started up, superheroes had only supposedly been public figures for about five or ten years (depending on whose continuity you went by).
>>81676527
>are ignoring the fact that nu52 DC is all
I'm sorry anon.
I only consult headcanon these days.
>>81676527
Nah, it's really only like that in TT and Superman, and nobody acts like TT is the barometer for the DCU. Aquaman's people love him, Midnighter fucking dates under his cape identity.
>>81676731
>I chalk it up to the fact that when the New 52 started up, superheroes had only supposedly been public figures for about five or ten years
I chalk it up to the fact that writing the effects of a nation wide resentment of Superheroes would take some serious writing ability, and DC generally employs people who would never get themselves published.
Not that X-Men really ever handled it any better.
I know Superman and Batman would likely be pushed as the ones at odds.
Hal Jordan and Barry would likely be on opposing sides, as well.
And probably Booster Gold and Ted Kord because people love friendship struggles.
But talking about in character who would choose which sides?
I'm not sure, Batman does believe he should be aware of every super powered person but idt he feels the govt. can be trusted with that info.
Hal Jordan is space cop and he's seen order work out with the corps, he may be pro-registration
>>81677563
>Hal Jordan and Barry would likely be on opposing sides, as well.
Nah Hal would try to mediate between the two sides. Barry and OLLIE on the other hand would be polar opposites.
Everyone would expect Hawkman to go pro-reg because he's usually portrayed as pretty conservative and people tend to associate the pro-reg side with right-wing politics, which is fucking stupid.
>>81674200
The Dark Knight Returns had something like that, but it happens before the story starts. Oliver Queen lost his arm :(
>>81677617
>people tend to associate the pro-reg side with right-wing politics, which is fucking stu
ehh... maybe because right-wing politics is widely associated with strong government, who controls everything and has a tight grip over its citizens?
>>81677563
>And probably Booster Gold and Ted Kord because people love friendship struggles.
Naaah they'd be too busy trying to figure out how to make money off the situation.
BATMAN VS SUPERMAN T-SHIRTS!
NEVER HEARD BEFORE MEMOIRS FROM THE JUSTICE LEAGUE!
Shit like that.
>>81676527
How did a crowd of people from Earth-4 get to Prime Earth, and why are they carrying a sign advertising who they are?
>>81677780
>ehh... maybe because right-wing politics is widely associated with strong government, who controls everything and has a tight grip over its citizens?
>libs and low-information voters actually think this is true
>>81677933
He's a good goy, I'll give him that.
>>81677780
Uh, no. The left wing politics are for FIERCELY strong government. Every single authoritarian government that's been propped up has been left wing at heart. It's really no coincidence at all.
Hitler's National Socialism is still left wing, but it has right-wing aliments to it though. Don't worry, I knew you were already gonna bring it up.
>>81677933
To be fair the most right-winged goverments DID go that way.
>>81677807
Someone accidentally went through a portal Captain Atom created
>>81677059
It didn't even last that long in Superman either
>>81674200
It already exists. It's called Injustice: Gods Among Us.
>>81678103
So did most left wing governments. And both have collapsed for separate reasons as a result.
>>81678097
>Hitler was left wing because I don't like Nazis
Thanks for sharing, Jonah.
>>81677933
Part of the problem is that most people are still stuck in the George W Bush days of politics, and he did expand a LOT of government regulations and spending in his administration. Conservatives defended all that because we were in the middle of a war and they didn't want to give liberal politicians and critics more ammo to level against him.
The small-government Constitutionalist movement in Republican politics didn't really get into full-swing until 2010, and Trump's gone about hurriedly demolishing that stance with his advocacy of massive increases in government power and spending taking up the public's image of "conservative" politics in this election cycle.
>>81678097
Actually the NSDAP called itself that way to attract as many people as possible with having nationalism, socialism and worker in it's name.
Honestly though both extreme right AND left go full government mode when it comes down to it.
>>81678202
So how long until the US will?
>>81677780
>maybe because right-wing politics is widely associated with strong government, who controls everything and has a tight grip over its citizens?
What kind of retard are you?
Well this is /co/ after all.
>>81677059
Well the TT kind of deserve the criticism they get from civilians because they have not been very heroic(so far) in the New 52.
>>81678208
>most people are still stuck in the George W Bush was literally the only Republican president in their lifetimes days of politics
How silly of them.
>>81678331
Well that's why I meant by "low-information voter" up top there, these are people who only pay attention to the president and ignore the rest of the political party and process.
>>81677933
Republicans on paper
>We oppose federal over-reach and feel the government should respect individual rights
Republicans in action
>Legislate vaginas and who can marry who, torture the shit out of people, spy on all citizens all the time-non stop
I'm not saying the other side is any better from a moral standpoint, but image-wise at least their talking points aren't literally the opposite of their stated platform
>>81675312
Relevant video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OktXKBCQOik
Shocked and appalled no one has mentioned Legends, which Marvel fans flat out accused Marvel of both ripping off and bastardizing with Civil War
>>81679072
Not many people these days have read it since it doesn't have Crisis in the name.
>>81674200
>What would happen if Civil War was a DC comic's event?
Injustice
>>81678593
Why the fuck was this part of the series so good?
>>81674200
Pro reg: Superman
Anti reg: Batman
>>81678593
Flash considers himself to be the counter to the entire Justice league
lel I love it, gonna start watching this show now
>>81678171
>>81680244
Injustice was a video game first then a comic book event, right?
>>81684256
Unfortunately that's probably how DC would try and make it go down.
>>81684530
It was made as a tie-in to explain the setting leading into the Injustice video game, but it wound up being more popular than the game itself.
>>81674200
>Who would be on the Proregistration & anti-registration side?
the heroes of DC unanimously stand for freedom and would all be anti-registration.
the villains would be pro.
Because DC events at the fucking least are about heroes fighting villains.
>>81684901
Wonder if they'll ever actually get into the game's story.
>>81682673
Dwayne McDuffie, Bruce Timm
>>81678593
>that glorious panoramic cross cutting between the League and Cadmus
I feel like the visual excellence of this series is often understated
>>81684256
>Pro reg: Superman
This makes NO sense at all.
>>81684256
>>81684581
The worst part is that Batman canonically goes out of his way to discover the identity of every single superpowered individual while making massive efforts to hide his identity.
>>81685982
It does... kinda.
Batman would be anti-reg: not because he doesn't believe in reg, oh he does, he just certainly doesn't trust any chucklefuck GOVERNMENT, and he clashes with Waller constantly and you just know they'de put that bitch in charge.
In a situation where batman could be the one running the show? He'd reg jn a second. But he doesn't trust anyone but himself.
Didn't this actually happen in Millars The Dark Knight Returns? Wasn't that part of the background of Superman being a govt agent and Batman retiring?
>>81678585
>yfw Democrat leaders champion gay marriage so they can collect fees for marriage licenses and divorces.
A true right-wing stance on marriage would be the elimination of state-sponsored marriage of any kind (including tax benefits), leaving it as soley a social or religious institution.
>>81689175
Legal unions would still be necessary so people could share finances.
The worst part is with Batman Inc., Batman would join Pro-Reg so he can have control over everything, but he'd try to find ways out of making his own identity known.
This would go on for weeks with the anti-reg heroes playing nice and not telling who he is untilHal and Ollie decide to spill the beans as a 'fuck you'
>>81689288
If you want to share finances, get a joint account
>>81689347
Hal would be Pro-Reg.
>>81677780
>right-wing politics is widely associated with strong government, who controls everything and has a tight grip over its citizens?
Only outside of the Anglosphere.
>>81689388
Hal would not register. He deems himself above earth law when it comes to superheroic.
>>81688979
How? The guy is considered an enemy of the State in the comics. He is the super hero that defends his secret identity with the most fierce and even when it got revealed, the guy just wanted to make sure nobody would recognize him.
Unless you are thinking of Injustice Supes. Pro Reg Supes would be a pretty damn idiotic idea.
>>81678593
The DCAU is still the best cape media ever created. MCU comes close but they have nothing as good as the CADMUS arc
Lex would start pro reg and then realize it would be boring to known heroes identities so he switches to anti reg.
maybe.
>>81674200
>>81675312
I was thinking about making a thread about this, however Civil War did something everyone forgets -- they took Hulk out of the picture.
I think taking Superman/Kryptonians out of the picture would make it a lot more interesting.
>>81676055
I never understood why Marvel didn't play this angle more. It could of easily been a plot by someone to get the powerful heroes to get rid of themselves.
>>81674200
>Who would be on the Proregistration & anti-registration side?
None of the main JL would be pro reg. Aquaman maybe at a stretch
>>81689347
I can see Ollie doing it publically. All over the Internet. With the assistance of his new sidekick, Anarky, because Arsenal/Red Arrow would either be off somewhere or probably pro reg. Canary would be torn between her loyalty to her upbringing as a cops daughter and her shitty husband/friends on the other side but ultimately go anti reg out.of experience.
Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, all would be pro reg, the latter two have nothing to lose particularly.
Superman would be anti reg or recuse himself.and fuck off to the north pole. And wtf you gonna do about it he's fucking Superman.
Hal would cite intergalactic law and be anti reg or the lanterns would cut a deal so he can work unmolested.
Arrow and all the street levels would be anti reg.
>>81677617
>>81677797
A big part of Civil War was showing the issue mess up friendships, I figured DC might do the same.
But I agree what you two said would be more in character for GL/Flash and Blue/Gold
>>81684256
>>81685982
It does if the govt manipulates Supes, probably with Luthor's help
>>81677563
>and he's seen order work out with the corps
>yfw luthor sides with anti reg
>when asked why, he replies "Registration implies acceptance and normalization of you freaks. I'm against anything that legitimizes your caped nonsense.as anything more than the illegal and dangerous showmanship it is."
>>81689598
>I never understood why Marvel didn't play this angle more.
It's a bit cheap when you've sold the thing as an ideological conflict. They obviously wanted the heroes to not come out all clean.
Follow up: what event would kick it off? An incident with the Teen Titans?
>>81684256
>>81684581
>>81686630
It's funny because the original idea for JLU was for Batman to join Cadmus in fear of a Justice League gone rogue. Batman is far more likely to be pro reg than Superman
>>81689750
Except for Cap, who they turned into jesus and literally martyred
>>81689779
Eh, he still comes off as an unreasonable asshole imo, just less so than Tony.
>>81689721
Alright fair, it depends on when the event takes place but yeah Hal would likely want things to remain the same on Earth.
Barry would probably be pro-reg because he wants to please everyone
>>81689702
>probably with Luthor's help
>Luthor
>The man Superman specifically will never trust.
Don't be stupid.
>>81689811
>>81676133
And it's getting re-printed soon. DC collection department doing something right for once and trying to cash-in on Civil War? Whodathunkit.
>>81675312
>A Superman that acts like he's only accountable to himself is how all the bad universes start.
So superman, flash, batman, green lantern. theyd all be cool revealing their identity and working at the behest of the government?
>>81689831
Have... Have you never read a comic where Luthor manipulates Superman? It happens all the time, what are you saying?
>>81689831
All it takes is Lex discreetly creating a superhero incident in a way that won't be traced back to him (until Batman uncovers it in the final act) pushing Superman to the "we really do need to be held accountable" side.
>casuals not knowing Lexy teams up with the Government to fuck up Supes' day in every other comic
>>81677617
>Nah Hal would try to mediate between the two sides.
By asserting that Green Lanterns have jurisdiction and authority over Earth matters.
