Anyone remember Gen Zed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fxls1XrcJc
What the fuck happened to that?
>>81666358
NO.
DELETE THIS.
>>81666358
canceled after, I think, three episodes.
>>81666457
Nigger, calm down.
The creators of that cheap promo (that appears to be edited snippets of longer scenes, but in reality thats all there is) got all the money they wanted from stirring up controversy on various message boards, and promptly disappeared.
>>81666358
It's still being made in an underground bunker somewhere. Even now the finest trannysmiths in China are lovingly crafting each episode.
They overestimated the trans-boom.
It was their only gimmick, and no one really cared.
>>81666358
WOW you're trans? That takes YUUUUUUGE strength of mind
>>81666358
Did what all trannies do and ended itself
I always hated how they boast about how they have the "first ever cartoon with a transgender voice actor in a lead role" when that is blatantly false.
Pic related.
>>81666556
>Chinese
>Using love to create something
>>81666474
>three episodes.
Whoa, hold up, I just thought they took the money and ran.
Were there actually episodes put out?
>>81666695
They're Australians, they always think they're more influential than they actually are.
>>81666730
I don't think they were released.
Somebody saw them, and pulled the plug before they could lose more money on it.
>>81666358
The douchebag covered in tattoos and gratuitous piercings is the only redeeming thing I can see in the entire mess. That's the feature which actually shocked me. The over-the-top "progressive" pandering is old hat by this point.
Please tell me the show crashed !with no survivors
>>81666695
To Be fair Blaustein was intersex. They're probably to trans people what bisexuals are to homosexuals, i.e. fakers.
>>81666358
I've legitimately been waiting to watch this. It looks like it would be so bad it's good.
>>81666358
i like that her personality is trans
>>81666695
R.i.p.
>>81666848
Technically speaking, intersex people are more directly transgender, being that they actually have two sets of genitals at birth. But don't tell trans people that.
>>81666807
No offense anon, but unless you go under the knife, I don't that makes you trans just yet, as the transformation hasn't happened. I think the proper term is Gender Dysphoria.
>>81666695
>cartoon
>>81666952
Hermaphrodites are neither male nor female. Also, I'm pretty sure most of them are upset that they aren't fully one way or the other, and they usually don't use it as a means to become popular like most modern trans people.
>>81666978
it's transgender, not transexplease god don't let this comment start a shitstorm
>>81666358
Wait, is this real or was it a parody of something?
>>81667039
It was real sadly
The twitter accounts are still active I thinkpew pew
>>81667038
I don't think you have anything to worry about.
I just want to say, that in cartoons there is often a message that just because you like traditionally boy stuff, doesn't mean you are not a girl, and vise versa, just because you like to do traditionally feminine things, doesn't mean you aren't a boy. The idea of gender being a mental perception of ones self based on your hobbies or fashion choices feels like a step backward from the issues that you care about.
>>81667038
Why would that start anything? It's right. There is no way to change your sex, and gender is a very subjective term.
>>81666829
It was never meant to see the light of day. It was literally just a scam. The guy running the whole show had made some pretty offensive jokes on his twitter before creating the show. He just looked at all the trannies and fags on the internet and thought he could make a quick buck, and boy, was he right.
It was awful. Having a transgendered person doesn't magically make something good.
>>81666807
>you must be at least 18 to post on 4chan
>>81667038
there's no such thing as gender
now please stay out of the women's locker rooms
>>81666695
mewoth, dats right
>>81666807
>there are people this despicable on 4chan
>>81666519
I still feel like it was a big scam and that those "snippets" aren't actually part of a longer scene and that those were all they made.'
I would like to see the episodes they did complete somehow if they exist.
>>81666358
https://youtu.be/2a3MduZ1feI
>>81667114
Holy shit. Why is the twitter account still active?
https://twitter.com/gen_zed?lang=en
>>81667038
>>81666807
Mental illness is treated with psych meds and therapy, not plastic surgery.
>>81667038
I don't care if your transwhatever, but gender is synonymous with sex shut the fuck up with your bullshit definition.
>>81666952
No, they aren't. If they were raised one sex and decided to transition to the other then maybe. But being intersex doesn't make you trans.
>source: I was diagnosed intersex as a kid
I don't think it really counts though since it didn't effect my chromosones or internal organs aside from I'm probably sterile due to the horrendous fuckup that was my hormones.
According to the Facebook page, the first episode is supposed to drop on May 1.
>>81668373
Uh oh.
>>81668373
That's my brothers birthday. He won't like this
>>81668373
Damn it. I wish it had been a scam all along.
>>81668373
I can't wait.
>>81666800
Well, now I'm kind of sad.
I wanted to see how bad this could be.
Remember, trailers always show the BEST of the show.
>>81668270
Oh fuck off with that.
>>81668373
Ok, but what about twitter?
Has it gone dark?
>>81668618
The twitter account's last tweet is from two hours ago.
>>81666807
>kinda, still debating a bit
That's not how it works you Generation Zer.
those characters are unironically offenive
>>81668618
All the social media accounts connected to the show are still active.
>>81666807
>I'm actually trans
lol faggot
>>81668373
the fire rises
>>81668609
>thinking you have the "wrong" body is literally a somatic delusional disorder
>highly politicized mental illness
>only mental illness where the treatment involves scalpela or telling the patient they aren't crazy
Apparently they have only two animators.
>>81668473
Just on my birthday.
Thanks Trump
>>81666358
>Canada
>>81666358
I can't unsee it.
It's in development.
>>81668270
And shitposting is treated with bans.
>>81669807
>muh feelings
>>81666807
And I'm a 12 inch dick Chad.
Get the fuck out of here.
>>81666707
why do you think the CCP put them in bunkers can let the people get soft but the west still needs to be milked for all its got
>>81668609
he is not wrong. I mean, if you really hated your arm, is cutting it off the best treatment?
Who do we blame for this? Tumblr? Reddit? The internet? This generation? Our generation? SJWs? GamerGate? Ourselves? Me? OP? Sam Hyde?
>>81667173
Yeah, this is the thing that I always wonder about regarding my more "progressive" friends, but can't figure out a way to bring it up to them without either starting shit or getting casually brushed away for being ignorant or something.
>>81666358
>the first animated show in the history of the world to feature a transgender actress in a lead role
>>81669931
No, but there's a difference between being delusional and wanting to chop off your arm, and feeling like you were born the wrong gender. Your gender can actually be fucked up when your born, since that goes one of two ways, not including intersex which isn't its own gender but a combination of the two sexes. But there's not really a state in your development as a baby where your DNA decides "Yeah, we're just gonna go ahead and not have that arm," but then screws that up and gives you one anyway.
>>81668270
Hey, so I notice this is an increasingly hot-button issue on /co/ and a friend linked me the thread to explain that this is a serious misconception that seems to come up a lot in this board's trans discourse.
I'm a therapist myself, and proper treatment for trans patients is an issue that's gained a lot of prominence in our field. You're mistaken on two fronts in a very common way;
Firstly, the DSM no longer classifies gender dysphoria as a mental illness - it's a disorder, which comes with its own class of clinical labels.
Secondly, you'll find that therapy and medication do not necessarily preclude someone from also being treated with surgery! In fact, often times the former - counseling and medication - is in preparation for hormone treatments and eventual reassignment surgery. Our job is almost never to discourage someone from transitioning, just to bring them to an emotional state where they're best suited to function should that be their decision.
>>81670244
i think its insulting to consider bieng a man screwing up
>>81670394
There are people born female who think that was screwing up, too. It's not a sexist thing, it's literally their brains being wired for the opposite sex than their body.
>>81666358
what bothers me the most about this trailer is inconsistent letterboxing
why the fuck are some characters under the black bars and some over them
>>81667845
So basically they took whatever investors' money, produced a crap short and ran?
Like, I don't think they had much money to work around with, but unless they tricked people to buy the merch by the thousands they didn't earn much. 220k views on youtube amounts to some less than thousand bucks, and I imagine a good chunk of those viewers had adblock.
>>81666807
Go back to /gif/ to sucks dick.
>>81668079
There's an /lgbt/ board and /b/ is 90% traps. If you want a website free of "degeneracy" then try Reddit.
>>81666358
Did anyone else accidentally misread the title as Gen Zod and think it was about the Superman Villain?
>>81670667
>there's a /lgbt/ board
that's the point, these animals need to stay on their fucking containment board
>>81667014
You are joking correct? Anime is just a Japenese cartoon. Just because their foreign cartoons and we use a different term doesn't mean they aren't still cartoons.
>>81670446
>brains being wired for the opposite sex than their body.
Except this isn't the case. Neuroplasticity invalidates this entire concept.
>>81670275
>the DSM no longer classifies gender dysphoria as a mental illness - it's a disorder, which comes with its own class of clinical labels.
That's for purely political reasons. Go to /lgbt/ and you'll see a lot of trannies doctor shopping for the sort of doctors that will rubber stamp them through the red tape or complaining about docs that dare to question if transitioning is what they need.
>>81668373
>Hal Sparks
I guess he ran out of VH1 specials.
>>81670807
Serious question, but why do we have that board? Is it really just so that people don't spread their shit in the other boards?
>>81671154
yes, they need a safe space to hide from reality
>>81669675
god damn it has my country ever made a decent cartoon?
>>81671343
Ruby Gloom and Ed Ed N Eddy?
![My-Life-Me-heads-to-KI-KA-Der-Kinderkanal[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5SaHP23.jpg "My-Life-Me-heads-to-KI-KA-Der-Kinderkanal[1].jpg")
>>81671343
Yes
>>81671343
>>81671426
What this anon said. You've had some gems, and at least you're not Australia.
>>81671430
This show is fucking atrocious.
>>81671343
>>81669179
Yeah no shit, Gen Zed.
>>81671489
Whatever you say anon
>>81669807
Unfortunately, the attention-whoring tranny hasn't been banned yet.
>>81670275
It being politically incorrect to call it a mental disease does not make it any less insane.
>>81666807
>(kinda, still debating a bit)
It's amazing how these people keep proving time and time again how they're just this generation's version of emos, a fake clique of pretentious angsty youths, adopting special snowflake identities and pretending we all have to play along with their make believe bullshit. It's hard to tell who are the real mentally ill and which of them are just trying to be part of the edgy crew.
>>81666577
Their other gimmick was that 4chan hated them so they must be doing something right. Sad thing was they couldn't get 4chan to hate it as much as they wanted.
>>81666807
>still debating a bit
You either go to a doctor and they found out you have gender dysphoria or you are not trans, is not really a debate, you either have a genetic problem or you don't.
>>81668182
Fun fact: they have thousands of fake followers.
>>81666358
Jeff Jacks remembers, he got it cancelled for IP infringement
>>81672033
I believe they actually made a post about how upset they were about our comments and someone asked if it was them making shill threads and they said something like "We won't tell ;)"
>>81671906
>It being politically incorrect
Scientifically inaccurate, not politically incorrect. That was kind of my point - your claim isn't actually supported by the APA's DSM in its current form.
>>81671906
I still don't know whether I buy this. I mean, other than that photograph of some woman wearing the same glasses, there's no sauce.
>>81666358
Is there porn of her & the Questionable Content redhead?
>>81672330
do you think someone would do that
just go on 4chan and tell lies
>>81671343
Objective taste but:
Eek the Cat
Sticking Around
Care Bears
Rock & Rule
The Racoons
Animated:
Adventures of TinTin
Babar
Rupert
Clone High
Undergrads
Hell, just look up Nelvana and Amberwood.
When Flash became dominant, Canadian animation took a massive nosedive.
>>81667173
>tfw progressives enforce gender roles
Their facebook says the show will release may 1st this year
>>81671328
they ought to just give up and rename /lgbt/ to /autogynophillia/
>>81670275
The DSM is politically motivated and unscientific. Trans suicide rate stays the same even after surgical operations. You're helping them in no way, shape or form. The only help they need is help accepting reality, not this coddling bullshit.
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/05/the-real-problems-with-psychiatry/275371/
>>81672348
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1674140
>>81672627
>Trans suicide rate stays the same even after surgical operations.
You don't have any recent studies that prove this. You only have an outdated study that only compares post-surgical transsexuals with non-transsexuals.
>>81666358
Anyone remember Gen Zod?
What the fuck happened to him?
I thought "gender is a social construct".
Problem solved! :^)
>>81671343
Ponies
>>81668373
What? /co/ made it sound like it already aired and failed badly. Damn, this shit's gonna be juicy
>>81670837
Okay, can we just get rid of this invalidating logic that treats everything that isn't normal as "trying to be trendy" and "trying too hard" and all these other degrading labels that try to put down a lifestyle or logic because it doesn't follow one's own method?
Like, fuck off with this bullshit hateful rhetoric. Why is everyone who isn't you supposedly stupid? Get over your fucking self and worry about your own damn life, mate.
>>81671906
What's up with you cats shitposting recently?
You're spouting hot, unsourced opinions (waah the medical community is sjw jews, I'm the authority on how to deal with this issue) every time a post so much as uses the prefix trans.
Tell me, how do you propose transsexuality should be dealt with? If your answer sounds like it belongs in a Sonic OC profile, I'll consider my case closed.
>>81672591
>/lgbt/
Every time I look in, all I see are trans threads. They really should rename it by now.
>>81672724
>>81672724
>Why is everyone who isn't you supposedly stupid?
Please go back to Tumblr and write an angry image macro or something.
>>81672647
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
>>81670244
The guy just feels he should be born without that arm. What's the fucking difference? The only thing you're saying is that "it's different because it is". If DNA was a rule, like you say, you couldnt segue with having a Dick either. You have it and that's it.
>>81671467
Don't you guys have a cartoon about a boy that transforms into a girl
>>81668121
>>81672705
It is. Which is why SJW defending transgenders is hilarious, they are confirming that they believe that boys do certain things and girls do certain things, but if you tell them that they flip out.
>>81672724
>invalidating
>hateful rhetoric
You SJWs love your buzzwords.
>>81672132
>pew pew
>>81672961
You're conflating a lot of differing opinions and postions for the sake of your 'spicy #rekked sountbites'. I'm no feminist but I can tell you off the cuff that some are androgynists and some aren't, and that for most people it's a scale between 'gender is everything' and 'gender is a social construct'.
There are neurological differences along gender lines, fittingly transsexuals have been identified as commonly having female expressions of this dimorphism.
>>81672906
>posts the outdated study that only compares post-surgical transsexuals to non-transsexuals, previous poster made specific mention to, because of its irrelevance.
I don't know if retarded, or just retarded.
>>81672976
"Buzzwords"
You're literally using a "buzzword" by saying "buzzword" but trying to deflate my argument by saying "LOL BUZZWORD YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID!!"
Shut the fuck up you fucking child.
>>81673054
Not that guy, but my problem is that "gender" has never been defined as the social constructs associated with sex until the 1950s. Most people don't even accept this definition. The terminological difference was established by a child molester at that. I'm not saying that social constructs associated with gender don't exist, just that it's deceptive to use gender when describing them. They use the word gender because it's a more powerful word and pushes their agenda further.
>>81673102
>MELONS
>>81666757
Here Anon, take this gun and kill me, because i don't want to be a fucking Australian any more.
>>81673166
Now this is a good post.
>>81673124
Our vocabulary on sex, gender and friends(tm) are old words borne of necessity. It's the same problem as with science and philosophy. They've been around a long time, and been used for general concepts that in most situations never need to be specified and categorised.
You can use sex and gender to mean whatever makes sense in context, so long as everyone is on the same page and drawing from the same metaphorical dictionary, in the same way the word 'form' means something completely different when used in a philosophical context to its everyday use.
Bottom line: It's semantics.
>>81673068
>2011
>Outdated
Well I guess if you just claim all studies that weren't made today as outdated then I guess you can win every argument.
His main complaint with that study isn't even valid to begin with, because it conflates transgender and transsexual. Comparing "post-surgical transsexuals to non-transsexuals" is the point because to be a tran"sexual" you actually have to undergo surgery. It's a valid assumption to have that people who are interested in a "sex change" operation are transgender, and the study still supports my conclusion.
>>81672874 >>81672976
Why do you assume anyone who isn't an asshole is a SJW?
>>81673261
>Bottom line: It's semantics.
That's the fucking point. People who are using the new definition of gender are trying to apply it to older institutions.
>>81672764
Where did you come from?
How short of a while have you been visiting 4chan?
>>81672874
lmao you must really think you're smart because you think anyone who disagrees with you is a tumblr-browsing 14 year old.
Look, I get that some people who believe in peace and love and y'know, actually working together for the benefit of the species are kind of annoying, but please, you're limiting yourself by believing we're all alike. I do not tell "cis" people to go kill themselves even if I'm bi and like dressing up.
Also I use Facebook, probably because I'm a "pleb" or "cuck" or whatever you 4chan kids think is a good way to invalidate someone to strengthen your weak-minded beliefs of righteousnesses. ( But also because I like keeping in touch with people I actually know. ;O )
>>81673327
Give me an example of where this is the case and how it causes a problem.
If it's a case of a book from 1953 that mentions James Bond noticing a 'beautiful figure in the female sex' and some tumblr lard commenting "OH EM GEE MYSOGINIST JAMES BOND DOESNT EVEN CARE ABOUT XIR GENDER, THIS IS CLEAR RAPE CULTURE IN ACTION" then it's safe to call bullshit but it's hardly worth getting riled over.
>>81673396
Wow kid, that's a pretty spicy zinger you just unleashed on me. I'm pretty but hurt right now tee bee eigh.
If you're going to talk, talk. This isn't reddit, you dont get upvoted here. We're anonymous so that the content of our comment box is all that fucking matters, so if you're going to use yours, address the point or fuck off.
>>81673441
>Be American
>Have to sign up for selective service if man
>if the definition was applied universally I could just identify as a female and avoid it
Imagine all the loopholes you'd find in law, especially in states that still have dower laws.
>>81672156
Not really. When you look into the definition they use to define mental illness, you find that they start wanting to delist things when they reach an arbitrary percentage of the population.
Which, means the definition of mental illness is itself, unscientific.
Thanks to facebook and such there is a serious conversation about delisting narcissism as a mental illness.
>>81672961
Gender is, conceivably, a social construct.
As it is a summary of the generalized actions and preferences of the sex for which the gender applies.
Amusingly, supporters of it being a social construct, and therefor meaningless, often point to societies that have a third gender. But rarely catch that this third gender is usually gay men.
>>81670244
>Your gender can actually be fucked up when your born
citation needed. Is there a 'dna' for 'identifying with a gender'?
>>81673543
If you're transsex I imagine you'd be deemed psychologically unfit regardless of the direction.
And again, it's all about vocabularies in context: the legal vocabulary is one of the most obsessive and trimmed there is, with every term having to be carefully defined and refined, so saying that people using sex and gender to refer to physiological and neurological expressions of sexual dimorphism in their day-to-day will give us a world of CHAOTIC LEGAL NOTHINGNESS is a dumb overreaction.
>>81673635
"Sexologist John Money introduced the terminological distinction between biological sex and gender as a role in 1955. Before his work, it was uncommon to use the word gender to refer to anything but grammatical categories.[1][2] However, Money's meaning of the word did not become widespread until the 1970s, when feminist theory embraced the concept of a distinction between biological sex and the social construct of gender."
In 2000, David and his twin brother (Brian) alleged that Money forced the twins to rehearse sexual acts involving "thrusting movements", with David playing the bottom role.[16] He said as a child, Money forced him go "down on all fours" with his brother, Brian Reimer, "up behind his butt" with "his crotch against" his "buttocks," and that Money forced David to have his "legs spread" with Brian on top. Money also forced the children to take their "clothes off" and engage in "genital inspections". On at "least one occasion", Money reportedly took photographs of the two children doing these activities."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money#Sex_reassignment_of_David_Reimer
Reminder that everytime you use this definition of "gender" you're legitimizing a child molester.
>>81673635
But social constructs are extremely meaningful.
And gender is not a description of what you are, but what your identity and assumed position within society on a gender-level is.
Gender roles change over time, but within their time frame and culture, they are extremely meaningful.
>>81673805
Identities are meaningless. I can identify as a penguin, but that doesn't mean I should be seen as or considered a penguin.
>>81673756
And plenty of technology we use today was fairly directly handed down from nazi scientists.
That seems like a pretty meaningless appeal to emotion. The guy's a horrible person, doesn't mean he can't be correct on this issue though.
>she
>>81673102
Buzzword was never a buzzword. Buzzword is older than almost every living human.
Are threads like this the reason all of the other boards make fun of us
>>81673851
It's a semantic issue though, there is no objective or physical worth to defining gender as social construct, unlike german science. You could just make another fucking word for it.
>>81673756
Oh yes, "Dr." Money was decidedly a horrible person.
But, those grammatical categories are "Feminene" and "Masculine." So, there were still based upon a general stereotype of the roles the sexes play.
>>81673805
Indeed, social constructs are pretty much everything we enjoy about the world. Rights, ownership, laws, our preference for discourse to violence to solve our problems.
There're larger problems to the position of folks who say something is "only a social construct," but that's one directly pointing toward how they're fucking idiots.
>>81673756
Or, for that matter, child abuse in general.When I was 4 I jumped off a couch and landed face first on the floor because I was wearing a Superman cape and my parents made me think it had powers. Talking to your kids about gender before they can even conceptualize it is the same fucking thing.
>>81673848
But you can't identify as a penguin. You can say you identify as a penguin, and imply that somewhere in your brain you've got penguinesque tendencies, but this is objectively and factually NOT what transsexuality is. This is precisely the reason most trannies hate otherkin, genderqueefs and whatever else there is nowadays.
Transsexuality is neurologically identifiable, it's medically recognised and is a condition diagnosed and treated every day.
>>81671343
>>81671489
It was, so were the comics
ginger is cute though
>>81673848
Wrong. They are, undoubtedly, without necessary outside consequence.
But, a truly held identity informs what scales you measure yourself against. These scales change for gender roles depending on where and when you are.
What it means to be a man can be a totally different thing, but it is always something you build much of your self on. Something you measure success by.
If being a man meant to ride fast and shoot far with a bow, the monetary success of a merchant would mean little in that regard.
If being a man meant to make your family richer and more powerful, the same merchant would have a much different picture of himself.
>>81673900
There needs to be worth to using definitions in a specific context? Is there any 'worth' to defining 'forms' as 'the true and infallible essence of all things that exist beyond our mortal ken'? Looking at different ways to define and interpret gender is simply part of a conversation, it doesn't really matter whether you think it has 'objective worth' for it to be a valid angle to view from.
>>81673851
Time to nitpick. They were scientist who worked for Nazi's, not scientist who embraced Nazi idealogy.
Also for your argument to work it would be more equivalent if the science was about racial grouping, the terminology was "lesser races", and we were still using the same definition of the Nazi.
>>81673954
>Transsexuality is neurologically identifiable, it's medically recognised and is a condition diagnosed and treated every day.
I think we define our terms differently. How are you defining sex and transsexual?
>>81674190
You're telling me that all those scientists dindu nuffin? They good boys? A surprising covert slice of the american dream tucked away in the third reich.
They were people, probably lied to and misguided, but also at the end of the day devoting their efforts to creating weapons to kill the other side. In doing so they created entire new schools of weapon design, civil engineering and in a lot of cases they influenced sociological and anthropological thought to this day. They were subjectively horrible people and they were discovering and inventing useful things on the road to the end. That's 100% comparable.
Also, in what way does paedophilia relate to gender dysphoria?
>>81673908
t. I've never studied Romance languages in my life
>>81673880
"Buzzword", "a word or phrase, often an item of jargon, that is fashionable at a particular time or in a particular context"
It's fashionable in the context of "I'm on 4chan and everyone says the word 'buzzword' as a shallow attempt to superficially break down an argument by claiming it was trendy", when in irony buzzword itself is trendy for the reason mentioned on this site and a large number of users emulate the kind of argument breakdown mentioned earlier.
Basically, by calling something a buzzword, you're veiling yourself in this vague argument that something else is invalid because it's trendy, when that logic fails to hold up to anyone paying any attention because they realize that "buzzword" itself stems from a "trendy" point of view.
>>81674337
I didn't use the word sex outside of transsexual. I'm defining transsexual as a person who deals with or dealt with gender dysphoria.
>>81674345
Well yeah. If they didn't actively develop technology to help exterminate jews , then they really aren't capable for the crimes of third Reich.
If tomorrow France nukes Libya is America responsible for helping with their nuclear programs?
>>81666807
Kill yourself mutant
>>81674423
>I'm defining transsexual as a person who deals with or dealt with gender dysphoria.
Transsexual means a change in sex (which is impossible), not someone who has gender dysphoria. I'm aware that gender dysphoria is a real thing.
>>81668334
I may be wrong, but I think Meowth's voice actor was born intersex, raised male, then identified as female later in life, but I could be wrong. I think that technically makes her trans.
>>81674438
If that happens is America not responsible to some extent? The country that spearheaded, created and used the first atomic bombs on civilians?
I think, however, we're reaching a quagmire of meaninglessness because in a deterministic universe every single occurrence will in some way send ripples down the stream of time and play some small part in the outcomes. We can just as easily blame one rabid wild dog that once prowled the ghettoes of weimar germany for missing the opportunity to bite a young Hitler for causing the holocaust through its inaction. You can blame a single sperm for going faster than the others during a night of passion on the Austrian border for him being born in the first instance. Everything causes everything that follows.
>>81674365
You have the technical definition of Buzzword almost down pat, but you are missing the nuance where the word is used in lieu of an actual concrete argument.
That guy used buzzword correctly, you used buzzword as a buzzword.
Also that wasn't ironic. Just a pet peeve of mine.
>>81674555
If that's the medical definition and you can give me an official-looking source then I'll start using the term 'dysphorics' to mean what I mean. However AFAIK currently, Transsexual doesn't /necessarily/ require actual transitioning to be in progress or to have happened yet.
>>81674634
What no. No sane person assigns blame past AT MOSt two degrees of separation, and most people cut it off at one degree.
The nazi rocket scientists did nothing wrong.
>>81674779
That's your arbitrary opinion and I'm not going to tell you not to have it, I'll just say that your cutoff is no more objective than anyone else's.
But then we're talking at a tangent to a tangent that frankly I dont give a fuck about, so unless you'd like to steer it back to the topic at hand Ii think I'm done.
>>81674694
>Official
>Trans=change
>sexual=biological sex
Nigga you don't need to be a professional linguist to understand this. Any other definition is just a fucking improper misnomer. This is why we can't have discussions about this because of made up DSM definitions that defy logic.
>>81674860
But it's not an opinion, it's just fact.
I mean nobody ever goes "Where were Manson's parents!"
Nobody ever goes "America was responsible for 9/11"
Nobody in there right head goes "Gun manufactures were responsible for Sandy Hook".
I mean how come you talk like a fag who went to college, but still be so retarded?
>>81674913
>Tele = Long
>Vision = Sight
Was having a nice evening watching the starts through my tripod-mounted television before I saw your post.
You're officially being retarded if you dont know that words are defined by either their usage or centrally-agreed meanings and not translations.
>>81675000
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>>81675124
I mean that more proves his point. Television gives you sight to things faraway.
I mean with the thousands of words made from older words you literally picked a set that works in his favor.
Are you him?
>>81675124
Television makes sense tho desu. When progressives argue that sex isn't the same thing as gender, and then go and use words like transsexual and define it as gender dysphoria, you can't blame anyone for getting pissed over the semantics.
>>81673885
Yes. You can use this thread to point out that /co/mblr is a real thing.
Christ I hate the modern internet, everything was so much better back in 2006.
>>81675228
>E-sports
>>81675200
But that's you. My statement was backed up by a lack of existence, your example is supported by you acting like a retard.
How can you be so retarded and still know how to work a keyboard?
>>81675362
See that works a lot better, but it is using a newer definition of the word sport enacted to give certain players of different competitive events the ability to obtain passports.
Such an argument doesn't work for transexual.
Keep going anon, I believe in your ability to out argue someone in a Nigerian Carpet Forum.
>>81675228
Yes, and Transsexual relates to a change in sex in some form - which dysphoria is generally agreed to be the sole 'legitimate' motivating factor. A dysphoric individual will at some point be motivated to changing their sex therefore.
The point being that it's as much of a stretch that television only applies to one specific form of 'far viewing' despite its generalizable translation as 'transsexual' can mean more than simply someone in the act of gender reassignment.
Translating these terms literally and then pointing to your translation as the objective definition is therefore fucking retarded.
>>81675232
Same could be said for racism and ethnicity. Race is often defined as the lines drawn in the 19th century in an attempt to lay down human subspecies. Races are negroid, caucasian, oriental etc, while ethnicity is more subtle and grounded equally in cultural differences. The word racism 'should' be impossible to apply to, for example, jews and arabs slinging shit backwards and forwards. But it's not. Because words adapt and evolve. Racism doesn't simply cover the 5 'breeds of man', transsexuality doesn't necessarily just cover people undergoing transition.
>>81675518
>Because problem B exists, problem A is not a problem
ok
>>81675602
What
>>81675518
Oh I agree, it's just his example was shit.
I want to make 4chan great again. Now to post some porn.
>>81675645
You're trying to rationalize that the contradiction I exposed in >>81675232 with the definitions of sex, gender, and transsexual is ok because you found problem with the definitions of race and ethnicity.
>>81675723
No, I'm pointing out that your contradiction isn't a contradiction at all because you're assuming definitions that have no grounds to be assumed. I'm then using an example of another situation where the 'implied' definition isn't the actual definition to illustrate it.
Racism's relationship with ethnicity is almost perfectly flush with Transsexuality's relationship with gender. The former words contain a term while the latter words more accurately encompass the meaning and that's not a contradiction in of itself at all.
>>81666952
What happened with Blaustein is that she were assigned male at birth despite being intersex, and she started identifying as female later on
>>81675871
How is it not a contradiction? You defined sex as biological and gender as social construct, but then go and say transsexual means someone with gender dysphoria. That's a grievous contradiction.
>I'm then using an example of another situation where the 'implied' definition isn't the actual definition to illustrate it.
Exactly, you're trying to say that because problem B exists, that problem A is not a problem. BOTH are problems. Just because race and ethnicity have fucked up definitions doesn't mean it's ok when other words do.
>>81676076
>You defined sex as biological and gender as social construct
Please point to where I did this.
>Just because race and ethnicity have fucked up definitions doesn't mean it's ok when other words do.
>its ok
And you stepped from logic to opinions with those two words. What you're saying here is that it's 'bad' that the definition that the word implies, and the definition I'm using are different. That's an opinion based on what you think 'makes sense' and nothing to do with what is true or untrue.
Transsexualism and GID (Gender Identity Disorder) are used interchangeably in medical settings. It's a disorder, not simply a state of being - in this case defining transsexuals as only being people IN transition would be roughly equivalent to defining 'Depression' as applying to people on antidepressants. Disorders are disorders, regardless of how they're being treated.
>>81676292
>Please point to where I did this.
You made the distinction that gender is a social construct. What other word would you use to refer to biological sex with? You defined it through elimination.
Contradictions in semantics are bad and devalue any conversation about them. This is why we can't have an honest conversation about transwhatevers without devolving into a semantics argument. This is why in formal debates people define their terms first.
>>81666757
I'm pretty sure they're britbongs, anon
>>81676458
>You made the distinction that gender is a social construct.
>>Please point to where I did this.
I don't see why I would have made that point because I don't believe it.
Can't we all just poke fun at the horrendous animation, abysmal dialogue, and general shittyness of Gen Zed
