This woman is the best selling comic creator today by a hge margin and most of us dont even know her name.
I thought Dork Diaries made more?
>>81665177
>most of us dont even know her name.
Her shit marketing isn't my problem
>>81665277
It's not shit marketing. She does literal children's books so we have no reason to be interested in her.
>>81665177
and this is important because?
Whhoooooooooo?
>>81665285
>implying cape comics aren't literal children's books
>>81665177
Shit marketing because WHO the fuck is she?
Also why would I care? I'm clearly not her Target readers.
>>81665336
Capeshit is written at a YA level most of the time. This woman writes comics for actual children under 10.
If it's not something we'd have nostalgia for like Captain Underpants we're not going to talk about
>ALL SMILES
>>81665390
So I'll learn about it when it's current audience hits 16-18 ?
>>81665390
>This woman writes comics for actual children under 10.
No she doesn't. She writes for young teens.
>I'm going to pretend I know more than you about this person even though I know nothing about them.
Honestly, she seems a perfect fit for /co/.
I remember liking Smile when I first read it.
She adapted the Baby-sitters club? That's pretty cool. I hope she does adapts the mystery ones at some point. Probably won't, considering the themes in her previous books, but I can dream.
>>81665238
I'm ashamed I keep getting tempted to read dork diaries because the art looks really adorable
>>81665285
So only comics for adults can be interesting and have an interesting composition?
>>81665177
so what is smiley about?
>>81665177
So? That's like saying the guy who wrote Diary of A Wimpy Kid is important to /lit/ because of how popular his books were.
>>81665522
slice of life story of a girl who eats shit one night breaks her teeth and gets braces
>>81665522
IIRC, it's about a teenage girl getting braces, learning not to be a jerk to her little sister, and abandoning her old friends to become a Nintendo fangirl.
>>81665466
I guess it's debatable but I wouldn't imagine someone older than maybe 12 reading her stuff. That's usually when you start reading a little more, like 5th grade or so.
>>81665502
Where did I say that? It's just that /co/ isn't going to elementary and middle school bookstores or shopping in those aisles to buy comics so there's no expectation that we're going to know about her.
>graphic novels
Anyone else tired of this? It's a fucking comic book, call a comic book, don't be ashamed that you read and enjoy comic books, don't pretend to be a class above the rest of us by calling your lame ass crap a graphic novel, it's not, it's a comic.
>>81665491
I remember picking it up out of curiosity in high school. It was only the first book, word for word.
>I DON'T NEED TO KNOW HER NAME I'M FUCKING TRIGGERED DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO LIKE
Jesus Christ
>>81665177
>why doesn't a 18+ board read kids books?
And before you say it, there's a difference between a "kids" book and a book or show for "all ages"
>>81665616
Most of us don't get hung up on labels here, bro.
>>81665616
Eh, in this case it works, because its a self contained volume while "comic" is used to imply it was a floppy and then was collected
>>81665338
>>81665277
How is her marketing shit when she is literally rolling in dough. Bitch breakd sales records lefr and right
>>81665616
Comics are a type of storytelling. A graphic novel has a specific definition that refers to material printed all at once. Floppies are technically magazines. Sometimes those magazines are collected in one volume where to a consumer there's not effectively different from buying one printed all at once so they use the term graphic novel casually in that instance.
I don't see reason to get upset about words. It's not people just being pretentious.
>>81665616
I call it a GN when I'm talking about some Arty shit
>>81665177
>This woman is the best selling comic creator today
That's not Rumiko Takahashi.
>>81665890
Americans only plz.
>>81665177
Its funny how people act like women and.girls and kids are invading comics when they already are an overwhelming force.
Its a minority that thinks its a majorty because of its myopia.
We are basically the kid who grew up in Baltimore who thinks the country is all black.
>>81665285
from all those loli threads, i'd say 4chan is quite interested in anything children.
>>81665177
Oh wow, awesome, good for her :D
I have Drama and Smile, though years apart between purchases. I remember buying Drama specifically because it seemed like it was just a simple story, like I was used to when i was a kid. Not trying to deconstruct a genre, not raising the stakes, nothing supernatural, just a simple little story about kids. I want more like this in the mainstream, but as long as these kinds are available I'll keep track of them.
If there's one complaint I have about Raina's artowork, is this one mouth shape she draws relatively often. I dunno, it just really bugs me the way that upper lip is shaped. But that's so incredibly minor that it's barely worth mentioning.
Hi OP
>>81662691
>>81665902
>>81661477
Please don't make any more threads today.
Without looking based on the art I'm assuming Reina Telgameyer and her comics for kids called Smile.
Just because you don't know doesn't mean everyone doesn't.
>>81665621
Ah, that's too bad.
Looking back, it's pretty amazing how many of those books were made. Wikipedia says that Raina made a few sequels; I wonder how much of her money came just from that?
Not that I think it's bad of her or anything. Her art seems to fit the themes and target audience, from what I've seen, and I'm happy to see old series like that making a comeback.
Also, it seems like she id some work on pic related, if anyone in the thread is interested in that kinda stuff.
>>81665725
Why's Maus referred to as a GN then?
>>81666273
Holy shit that Iceman. Those eyes.
>>81666314
>Sometimes those magazines are collected in one volume where to a consumer there's not effectively different from buying one printed all at once so they use the term graphic novel casually in that instance.
It's for convenience so people know what they're buying.
>>81666273
Seriously why isnt there an ongoing x men anime. A fucking school full of atractive teens with superpowees is like, half there industry?
>if I don't know the books it must be shit market selling!
Do you guys even go to a book store?
I read Smile. I loved it.
I would happily read her other booksif they were available for piracy.
>>81665616
>trade paperback
Anyone else tired of this? It's a fucking comic book, call a comic book, don't be ashamed that you read and enjoy comic books, don't pretend to be a class above the rest of us by calling your lame ass crap a trade paperback, it's not, it's a comic.
>>81666630
>>81666693
Don't be a pretentious asshole.
I don't want to hear your pretentious "it's a comic book released in graphic novel format" bullshit. It's just a comic book.
I don't want to hear your pretentious "it's a comic book released in trade paperback format" bullshit. It's just a comic book.
I don't want to hear your pretentious "it's a comic book released in floppy format" bullshit. It's just a comic book.
If you say "graphic novel" or "trade paperback" or "floppy" then you are the pretentious cancer killing /co/, which used to be love, until you came.
>>81665277
Au contraire, your ignorance toward the medium you supposedly love isn't her problem.
>>81666806
I don't read comics, just Graphic Novels, comics are for children anon, don't you want to be a sophisticated adult?
>>81665616
Comic book is a stupid term in itself. It implies that they'd be comical in nature.
>>81665701
Because those people are retards, her market is kids and teenagers and she markets to them specifically through schools, libraries and book fairs. When people say good marketing they assume shit like ads on every website and channel on tv.
>>81665238
man dork diarys have been around forever. I remember reading them back in middle school
>>81666913
Right, I get it.
You don't like it when people use "graphic novel" incorrectly (maturity level of content).
It gets you soooo angry.
In fact, you're so angry, you even get pissed when you see people use "graphic novel" correctly (format of publication).
But here's the crazy thing:
YOU are the reason why the former group exists.
Because, instead of helping to affirm the legitimacy of the latter group, you attack them.
Your attacks on the correct usage only helps to spread confusion about how to use "graphic novel" correctly.
Think about that the next time you hear some confused person say "I don't read comics, just Graphic Novels".
It's your own fault for helping to confuse them.
I used to have a Physical copy of Smiles.
It's a pretty good read. Wish someone could storytime it
>>81667140
Why do you hit enter twice when you want a new line?
It looks very annoying.
>>81665177
I like her books. They're cute and well-done.
I got some of them for my nieces and they enjoyed them.
>>81667276
Because I have a very low opinion of your intelligence, and I feared that you might get lost inside a paragraph.
So go on, explain to me why it's a *good* idea for you to get mad at people who use "graphic novel" correctly.
>>81667345
I'm not that gut, i just entered the thread because I see more and more people using it nowadays.
Also, you're saying that because you're a dick, you do an annoying thing.
Does she have groupies, it sucks woman writers dont have groupies because to me at least a 5/10 woman goes up like 4 points if she is a succesful creator.
I would legit give gail simone backstage head
If you point her out and all of her sustained success in threads complaining about why kids don't read comics you just end up ignored, which just shows /co/ still has a superhero bias when it comes to comics.
>>81666093
When they say invading they don't mean females in the creation process. They're upset over them as a marketing demographic, that is to say pandering to some kind of perceived agenda that's invading comics.
>>81666179
Nice Shrilling I guess?
>>81667773
What you have to understand is that when I said "Why don't kids read comics?" I meant "Why don't kids read Marvel and DC?".
I apologize for the confusion that I caused.
>>81667232
that's be ilegal, anon
>>81665177
>This woman is the best selling comic creator today by a huge margin and most of us dont even know her name.
She is not Oda-sensei.
Nor Rumiko.
>Fucking indieshits trying to push their literally who? just 'cuz they aren't making cape comics.
>>81668020
Go back to your cont/a/inment board.
>>81667925
>>81667773
Why dont DC and Marvel hire folks to make these type of books and sell them to scholastic and stuff. Like bitches follow harry potter smd YA novels, just do that with pictures. Why is big 2 so stupid , it is like hermit kingdom. Te homeland is.bareen and wasted from over exploitation fucking colonize
>>81667868
Why the hell is not ignoring half the population a bad thing? Is this secret club stuff?
>>81668076
Still the truth.
>>81667925
"Comics" on this particular board generally means "Marvel/DC cape series". Everything else is classified as "independant".
>>81668813
>Why dont DC and Marvel hire folks to make these type of books and sell them to scholastic and stuff
Yes, why'd companies expose themselves to the free market when they got a cozy agreement with a monpolist that all but guaratnees them an income no matter how awful their product is? It's an absolute mystery.
>>81668953
Comic sales in the direct market are so small they may as well not exist
>>81669152
Comic sales in the direct market were about 580 million dollars last year.
Million of dollars aren't the biggest deals, but they're still big deals.
>>81668813
That's what they're doing with stuff like the DC Superhero Girls line. Publishing though Random House I think.
>tfw braces fetish
>>81665177
Why should I care?
>>81669497
Pedophiles GET OUT.
>>81669241
Compared to the billions dc and marvel make over all they are.
Also full discolsure someone should parse out total big 2 floppy profit, then big 2 tpbs then compare that to the Dc and Marvel Entertainment profit.
For example I know Marvel studios is under Marvel Entertainment but isnt dc all done by WB? So its a cross liscening thing
>>81665177
>This woman is the best selling comic creator today by a hge margin
Then why doesn't she have the official world record?
Because it actually belongs to Eiichiro Oda, the God of Comics.
>>81669539
Hey, she at least looks teenaged
>>81669556
Weebs get out
>>81669602
It's official, bro. You gonna argue with that?
>>81669672
I'm not arguing they have that record, I'm just saying don't reference your anime shit here
>>81669760
Even though it's relevant, because OP's facts are wrong?
Eiichiro Oda is the best selling author, not Raina Telgemeier.
You can be mad at anime all you want for whatever strange and sad reason you have, but the facts are the facts.
>>81665177
>read Smile
>dental PTSD gets triggered
I sure am glad I went through that in elementary school.
>>81669821
Relevant or not, anime doesn't belong on the western board
>>81665177
>best selling comic creator
doesn't look like Rumiko takahashi
>>81669556
He clearly meant in the US given that, you know, this is a board dedicated to comics from the US.
>>81667925
Why does it matter if they read dc and marvel? Wouldn't you just want kids to read comics period?
>>81669602
This ran in New York Times btw
>>81669539
>tiles
Oh you.
>>81670140
If I fronted enough money I could probably put a picture of a penis in the New York Times
>>81665238
>Diary of a Wimpy Kid came out 9 years ago
>Dork Diaries came out 7 years ago
Jesus Christ
>>81670021
>this is a board dedicated to comics from the US.
it's not though. And she'd still be dwarfed by euro comics artists. Even female ones.
>>81670021
>this is a board dedicated to comics from the US.
Yeah and the only comic book companies are Marvel and DC.
>>81665177
And she deserves every buck and bit of praise she earns. She's an enormously talented cartoonist and storyteller. I'm a fiftysomething man, hell and gone from Ms. Telgemeier's target audience, but I love her books. I love all damn sorts of comics, and all I ask of any of them is that they tell me an interesting story in and interesting way. Her books do that.
>>81665177
I want to be casting couched by her
>>81670021
>from the US.
But it's not.
>>81670021
>this is a board dedicated to comics from the US.
I bet you think the only people who make comics are Marvel and DC.
>>81670274
Then do it faggot.
Oh wait, you can't. Because you're not Eiichiro Oda, the wealthiest comic book artist in the world.
>>81669988
Then why is this thread on this board, as it's subject is in direct contradiction to a known fact that apparently, in your mind, should not even be stated here?
>>81672436
Why are you still here
>>81674403
what are these books even about?
>>81669556
>>81672436
Even /co/ can enjoy the cancer known as the OP fanbase
>>81674585
One Piece is the story of a pirate named Monkey D. Luffy and his crew on a search to find the legendary treasure of the Pirate King.
>>81674585
It's shounen written by someone who has taken so much LSD that even Keith Richards would be concerned.
i know what one piece is, i'm working through it. talking about the smile comic
>>81674585
OP is at its core an adventure, one of the best in all of fiction that you should read if you Carr at all about good stories and fun times
>>81674849
Who cares about that? Probably just about some boring little girl.
>>81665500
second
>>81674849
I think >>81665582 summed it up pretty well.
>slice of life story of a girl who eats shit one night breaks her teeth and gets braces
>>81665177
Why, do they sell it to schools or something?
>>81665177
Her market is literally to elementary school students. That isn't a statement of content or quality, just that the publisher is only serving a specific and direct market with those books, and that market does not overlap much at all with the general comic market.
I would have NEVER heard of those books if I didn't get a job at a school.
I love how we have gone this long without a story time
>>81665500
They're good. If you haven't read Diary of a Wimpy Kid they are quite great kids lit. The main character is such an ass, it's just great.
>>81676176
Alright. Go ahead. Storytime it for us.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4jbdg4cm4bp4icv/Smile+%282010%29+%28repack%29.cbz
>>81676276
I dont have a computer. i have been 4channing the past two years on an android .
God i hate myself so.much
>>81676463
>an android
guv'na
>>81665177
>>81665177
Do you think we're all idiots OP?! no offence meant.
Sisters was pretty wicked and been meaning to read Drama.
>>81665285
Some weird reasoning there Anon...we're on fucking /co/, you know? Hello!
>>81665336
Kek'd
>>81665390
Raina Telgemeier IS a YA cartoonist you fuckstick
>>81679530
He should constantly change look, beeing a living machine and all>>81678172
Wat
