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I don't get it.
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Yes you do, stop being a fuckwit shitposter.
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>>81599557
No, I don't.
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>>81599667
Batman offering to help Joker is like the two lunatics in this joke. One's "help" still comes from a place of insanity, the other won't accept anyway but for tragically wrong reasons because they are also insane.
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>>81599502
The joke is that he is rejecting a bad idea for the wrong reason. I hope this helps you.
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did batman kill him at the end?
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>>81604363
No
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>>81604363
Yes
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>>81599502
You think the other crazy guy is agitated because his friend has a retarded idea but the punchline is that he's so paranoid he thinks his friend would try to kill him. One guy seems to be less crazy but for the purposes of the joke he is actually even crazier.
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>>81604363
Be may
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>>81599667
The inmate offering to help suggests that the beam of light is something the other inmate could use to cross the gap. The other inmate refuses to go along with it, not because its impossible but because he doesn't trust him to keep the "bridge" on.

The metaphor is equally applicable to both Batman and Joker.
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>>81600081
>>81604464
>>81604542
The joke is saying that Batman's offer of help is illusory and cannot really help the Joker.
Furthermore, when the police show up, the lights of the car reflect off the water, like a beam of light.

The Joker is saying that rehabilitation and justice (represented by the police cars) are just illusions. They're not any more real than the flashlight bridge.

That's why Batman kills the Joker next. He realizes that the Joker will never be "fixed". He can never be saved or rehabilitated.
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GREATEST EVER
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So, why didn't Batman just beat the absolute hell out of the Joker? I mean I'm sorry, but the lunatic just shot and crippled a friend and sidekick and then tortured another for the sake of sick laughs....and you have a LAUGH with him? I fail to see the humor here. And no, four light little punches from Batman is not even close to what Joker deserved.
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>>81604673
>spoiler
http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/comics/batman-doesnt-kill-joker-in-the-killing-jok/68199
http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/08/17/the-killing-joke-script-proves-batman-didnt-kill-the-joker/
Except he didn't you fuck because that's the whole point of the story.
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>>81604735
Well he did strangle him to death.
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>>81604735
Batman killed him
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>>81604839
>>81604875
good.
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Man do I feel stupid. I always thought "beam" in this joke was in reference to a steal beam or wooden plank that was laid out across the two rooftops. For some reason I never put two and two together and figured out it was the beam of light. NOW it all fucking makes sense.
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>>81600081
>>81601527
>>81604464
>>81604673
>>81604542
you're all wrong

He's the Joker. He just wanted to tell a joke he thought was funny.
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>>81604673
Except the story begins with the joke as well, its a commentary on the circular nature of their conflict.
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>>81605131

It also opens and closes on a rain puddle.
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>>81605054
No, that's still the joke.
The beam of light is being treated as a wooden beam.
But instead of refusing because the beam if light is NOT a real beam, he refuses because his friend might turn the beam off.
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>>81605216
Better than a urine puddle I suppose.
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>>81605216
IT'S LIKE POETRY! IT RHYMES!
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>>81605216
These lines are echoed from the beginning but with one important difference: Batman doesn't say "Just once." this time.
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They should just fuck already.
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>>81605555
>quads of gods
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>>81605307

No no, I get that. I mean I actually thought the beam was a wooden beam, night a light beam. I get it's still being thought of as a wooden beam, but I thought he originally meant a wooden beam too.
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Remember when Killing Joke was retconned out of existence because of this?
http://comicbook.com/2016/03/08/has-the-killing-joke-been-removed-from-dc-comics-continuity-/
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>>81606016
It was never meant to be canon
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>>81606016
Is that her period blood or her virginity blood?
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>>81606052
>it was never meant to be canon
Convenient that Batgirl got paralyzed and returned as Oracle in the comics since. As well as the Joker mentioning his dip in the vats since then. Purely coincidental fuck off morrison
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>>81606138
I'm not saying it's a coincidence dummy.
I'm saying it was written as a one-off, then partially canonized because it was so popular
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>>81606197
So its canon then
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Joker realizes he is insane and that Batman could save him but he is afraid because he is too scared of being abandoned by him in the process. He doesn't have the self esteem enough to think batman would truly care for him even if a big part of him wants to believe he can still be saved from that bad day. That there is still someone for him and that the world isn't complete darkness.


Batman realizes Joker will never gather the strenght to pull himself together and kills him, realizing that it is literally impossible to do anything else. He laughs, because the fact that Joker actually wants to be saved deep inside but won't allow himself is the ultimate failure for him and a huge irony. He will never be able to save his worst enemy, who deep down is the person that needs him the most
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>>81606016
To be fair though, supercucks would lose their shit if this was a cover
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>>81606605
Not anymore
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>>81606631
I didn't ask for this
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>>81606631
upvoted
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>>81606631
>Batman kills joker
So close.
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>>81606633
Reminds me of the scared straight program where they put cool-aid powder on prisoners lips.
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>>81606633
I don't speak on behalf of all Superman fans, but I was actually asking DC on twitter to make that cover for a bit, but they never answered me.
It would have been a great cover during that Doomsday Superman arc
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>>81606988
checked and yeah it's kinda sexist that Batgirl has to be demoralized and broken by the Joker for a cover (where she's only crippled) as Opposed to Superman who's killed by Doomsday.
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>>81606988
Maybe because it looks like Superman being turned into a prison bitch and that blood represents lipstick.
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>>81607074
that's okay for Barbara tho, right?
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>>81607074
That's what makes it work during the arc I mentioned, he was mentally being raped by Doomsday and becoming like him. It would have worked


>>81607052
don't know about that, I mean Batman has had quite a few torture covers since New 52
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>>81607121
I never said that did I? I'm just saying that's probably what they thought and didn't use it.
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>>81607145
I guess it just seemed too rapey to them. I mean, he kind of is sensually rubbing Superman's lips with his finger.
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>>81607208
I don't know I think the symbolism actually works, but I'm just a fan that wanted a cover that represented an arc nicely
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>>81606016
It's up to the reader to interpret it as that if they want
Or you can interpret it as Barbara simply remembering it and getting that and her fears/nightmares confused
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>>81599502
The Joker is communicating in the only way that his madness will allow him to:
The joke starts with the two lunatics breaking out of the asylum...
(this is Batman and Joker in their attempts to free themselves from madness, Joker knows he's insane and that Batman understands his madness)
The leap to the next rooftop made by only the one lunatic while the other is too afraid of something worse...
(this is Batman having overcome the damnation madness brings and Joker still being trapped in lunacy by his fear of true damnation)
The pun about the flashlight beam becoming the means to traverse the fall...
(this is Joker acknowledging both that Batman is offering help and that to make this offer is proof of Batman's own continued madness)
Now, the joke could have ended there with that pun, but then comes the punchline: do you think I'm crazy? etc...
(the offer of help itself may be madness but he does believe it could work, nevertheless the trust isn't there to even take that chance because Batman's motivations are the unknown motivations of a madman)
And that's how Batman knows that Joker's trying to reach an understanding too, as Batman had tried to do from the very first page.
Laughably, this really is progress.
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>>81604704
batfags are so fucking obnoxious holy shit.
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>>81599502
It looks like Joker's chin is melting in the last panel.
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>>81599502
>killing joke

Batman KILLS the JOKEr.

Do you get it now?
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>>81610106
Batman wasn't choking him. He was taking Joker's clothes off so they could have gay sex.
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