>John K starting a new animation studio in LA
>he still hasn't finished Cans Without Labels
>he took all that money from his fans and used it on back surgery
HE DID IT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>81596738
Hank Hill on the left?
I can't believe people still support John K. What exactly does he have to do to get former fans of Ren & Stimpy to actually turn on him?
>tfw you'll never be able to shit out a portfolio, move to LA, and make cartoons with John K before whatever big project they're working on is underway
>>81597270
If having their money stolen by him didn't work, then nothing will.
>>81597285
>already in that position
still don't want to work with him
Hank?
>>81597285
It sounds great but LA isn't cheap.
I would do it though just to get out of stupid boring old Tennessee.
>>81596738
Let's see:
HotDiggedyDemon will definitely be apart of this.
Maybe Shmorky, but I think he'd do better as a backup animator.
>>81597479
I just want to get into the animation industry and make cartoons that don't suck.
I'd be fine with never making much money doing it but going to art school is for tools.
>>81597501
They should get all the edgelords they can to make something akin to a modern day drawn together.
Nobody even tries to offend people anymore.
We all know what kind of "talent" he's looking for.
>>81597501
>HotDiggedyDemon will definitely be apart of this.
>Maybe Shmorky, but I think he'd do better as a backup animator.
Max lives in Massachusetts and Shmorky lives in Missouri, are you retarded?
>>81597270
>What exactly does he have to do to get former fans of Ren & Stimpy to actually turn on him?
Make tumblr-tier Cal Arts shit
>>81597537
You can do that from home with friends on the internet. You just have to be not lazy and have the time for it.
I plan on giving this a shot once I finish college this semester, it's a lot of work but still fun.
![[deathly silence].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vRIy8Ch.jpg "[deathly silence].jpg")
>>81597759
>Max lives in Massachusetts
Holy fuck, I could've passed him on the street and never known
>>81598323
I'm sure there's a few people from /co/ who've seen him and don't like him
I recall a guy making fun of the way Max jogs
>>81597120
believe it or not john's a fan of mike judge's work
>>81598323
I thought he lives in Florida now
>he took all that money from his fans and used it on back surgery
How the hell do people still respect this cunt?
It's one thing to have controversial opinions about what makes a "true" cartoon, it's another to commit fraud
>>81598556
Yep, and vice versa. Mike and John are chummy.
http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2007/12/mike-judge-and-humanity.html
http://www.inthe80s.com/july1995/animate/beavis.html
http://www.vulture.com/2014/03/mike-judge-explains-his-cultural-influences.html
>>81598654
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1056985656/john-ks-cans-without-labels/comments
Read the comments here. 136K down the hole, amazing.
>>81598769
I'm getting "Star Command for PC!" vibes here.
>>81597285
I have constantly heard that working for him is like working for a sweatshop.
How true is this?
>>81599211
If you're working for John, you're basically under his mercy at all times. He has a stranglehold over every aspect of the project being made, you name it and he has his eye on it. He takes forever but he is a taskmaster.
For example, I can't draw for shit and if I ended up in a production of his, I'd likely get fired because he's capable of finding fault with everything. If it'd not to his liking you'll be redoing it several times.
>>81599385
So he is insane with micromanaging every part until people quit?
>Cans w/o Labels three years late and dead in the water
>Has a reputation of being a fucking nightmare to work for
>Hasn't done anything worth giving a shit about in almost 25 years
>He thinks that anyone is going to apply
>>81598769
This Carmine guy is deranged or a genuine shill. The screams of the damned on this page are real.
He's collaborating with Mike Judge on something.
One of his recent blogposts had a bunch of B&B doodles, and he mentioned he had an upcoming project with a friend of his.
>>81599484
Yeah, he even managed to annoy Bob Jacques and Kelly Armstrong making them do stuff over and over again. Those two are basically responsible for every good piece of animation in the show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjXcgA91X6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EbIY0Q6X3M
>>81599385
We're considered manchildren for still talking about and watching cartoons well into our legal adulthood, but John's the real article with a huge dollop of honest-to-god Aspergers on top.
When he dies, the biography's going to marvel at how far he managed to get DESPITE his glaring social problems and inability to deliver on time.
I mean, fucking Moviebob's autobiography is sheer basement dwelling lack of perspective cringe and he still manages to sound coherent in his reviews even if his opinions are horseshit. John? He's dead to the only industry he knows and ravenously living off sycophants he not too secretly despises.
>>81599739
could it be he was working on it this whole time but trashed it all repeatedly due to his perfectionism?
>>81598654
most back surgery doesn't even improve quality of life, jesus christ
>>81600868
Well I didn't give money to Cans Without Labels. I have no idea how far along it is since progress is private.
John said there was 6 scenes left back in July.
>>81596738
John K. is one of the biggest liars and pieces of shit ever. And I say that as a fan of some of his work. I will not pay or support his work, but I will watch it on youtube or torrent it. He only survives because he has a legion of brainwashed, autistic losers as fans.
Finally, fans are coming to terms with what Nick executives realized 30 years ago.
>>81599484
He's like working for one of those annoying perfectionists professors that was never successful in their field so they fell into teaching. Then blamed their failures on everyone else and reminded themselves that their "technique" was perfection.
>tfw daddy kink>tfw attracted to John K.help
>>81603406
Kill yourself. It's the only way.
>>81603406
Oh, Anon, you can do so much better.
One day Katie Rice will tell us her story and it will be horrifying.
>>81603538
>believing Katie
I bet you think firing Skyler Page was a good idea too
>>81603795
Katie ain't the only one.
>>81603795
A man that's locked up in a hospital's psych ward singing TMBG songs to himself wouldn't be very capable of being a showrunner. Regardless of if he had been molesting people or not.
>>81596738
Wait, Toon Boom?
So he is making a 3/4 view only Canadian toon?
>>81605985
toonboom is actually pretty good to animate, but it has tweaking features and lazy assholes abuse it instead if actually animating
>>81596738
>what did I tell you about watching the PROFANE?!?!
And you people are surprised by this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UojpZ_Ec-q8
>>81606179
John K is a perfect example then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGiRuKOWoIw
>>81607688
this is more a problem that he doesnt know wth to do than animating
Holy fuck, finally some place other than CalArts that wont be a cancer to animation.
>John doing a new project at fucking 60
Boy this is going to be a disaster isn't it.
Nothing will come of this.
>>81607688
That is a piece of art.
>>81598556
>John believes animation trumps out writing 100% of the time and artists should be the ones to write
>Mike Judge cartoons focused on more tighter writing then animation
>They're good fans
Huh.
I'll never understand the John K. hate meme.
>>81610900
He's known to be extremely egotistical despite only making one good show back in the 90's.
Add this plus the fact he got Kickstarted to make a short cartoon four years ago and isn't even half way done and you can understand the disdain for him.
>>81610900
I personally don't care too much about the John K. controversy but I sort of see why people hate him. He adapts a "holier than thou" attitude despite coasting for about 3 decades off Ren and Stimpy with all of his most recent works being like>>81607688
And apparently he just pulled a Bee and Puppycat and took kickstarter money while failing to deliver. I personally don't care but it's easy to see why he's a figure of controversy.
>>81610900
I popped in this htread because I had no idea the guy who made ren and stimpy was john K. So i got no dog in this race one way or the other. But I just want to point out when you call anything voiced by more than one person a 'meme' as a method of dismissing it, you make yourself look like a fucking idiot.
It just smacks of 'I got shit to say so i'll just throw this buzzword in and hope it works'.
>>81610849
John K says he thinks of Judge more as an observational comedian than a cartoonist. Though he once said Beavis and Butthead were good character designs.
>people like John K
His cartoons are awkward and unfunny. He was only worth a shit when people kept him in check.
Literally the George Lucas of animators.
>/co/ finally wising up to John K.'s shit
About damn time
>>81611166
/co/ has hated John K for years. The only people who ever defended him were people from other boards that have nostalgia for ren and stimpy.
>>81599211
>>81599385
>>81599484
he's basically Walt Disney in that regard, except Walt knew how to be nice to his employees and treat them with respect and had a lot of charisma(helps that while Walt did have really high standards, he also pushed people hard cause he wanted to see them reach their full potential)
>>81596738
To be fair, the back surgery was kind of necessary.
>>81603795
Firing him was a good idea, but publicly shaming him was not. What happened to him was horrible and I hate anyone who condones it.
>>81597631
god Katie is hot.
>>81611563
He shouldn't have used money meant for his fucking cartoon though.
>>81611876
If your back is bad enough the nerve endings can fuck with your arms and legs. While I agree he should have addressed this to his fans, it is a necessary surgery so pinched nerves and discs don't actively ruin his limbs.
>>81611936
gtfo carmine
/co/mblr really is a thing.
>>81612062
Not him, just saying a back surgery is pretty hefty stuff. I tore my shoulder labrum and rotator cuff completely in high school years ago, it's not fun by any means. Let alone actual nerve endings being pressed alongside the discs.
>>81603917
>singing TMBG to himself
That is funnier than its supposed to be.
>>81597285
I live in L.A. and work in entertainment and animation. I could apply to work with him, but I'm genuinely afraid he'd say yes.
>>81597631
Does anyone have that blog where it's a birthday party for his animators and all the women are in their 20s and all the men are his age or older
>>81612607
poast moar delicious katie
>>81612607
>>81612638
This is the one
http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/11/kalis-birfday-party.html
>>81612695
>http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/11/kalis-birfday-party.html
gawd that last pic of katie w/ icing on her lips.
hnnngg
>>81611061
>John K says he thinks of Judge more as an observational comedian than a cartoonist.
so John K. loves to subtly insult his friends?
>Though he once said Beavis and Butthead were good character designs
and lie to them?
I might just apply for shits and giggles ...like Katie rice did....
Don't know if I can live up to the level of bakshi or John's methods of insanity.
>>81612995
mmm katie
>>81612787
It's not really an insult.
http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2007/12/mike-judge-and-humanity.html
http://www.inthe80s.com/july1995/animate/beavis.html
>>81607688
Don't compare this to 16teen. This vid actually has fluid animation specially on the robot head, true Canada style use of toon boom is highly robotic and rigid.
>>81610797
Eh, Williams did it at 80. So who knows. I actually want to see the crazy bastard succeed for some reason.
>>81610900
He dared to critique your favorite animated classics from the 90s. Which is a big no no. Don't you know that every thing was better back then?
>>81597285
Anon, that's a terrible dream. John K. would treat you like a 30s era Disney inbetweener.
>>81612995
I would do it anon. A lot of people in the industry have relationships with John. And he seems to have a trained a bunch artists. Including the dude who did the Bunnicula show. I even met an animation professor who's husband once worked for John.
>>81597501
If love to see a bunch of YouTube guys, Gilardi, Psychicpebbles, OneyG, Unkinjoe, who's style is similar to Spumco join forces with John K, shit would be goat, if not amusing.
>>81611291
Also a lot more money that John K
>>81613441
It really is a name that carries a lot of clout. Would be awesome ona resume. However I think he's bias to a pair of tits rather than raw talent.
>>81597501
HDD does his own shit and doesn't want to go pro. Shmorky's an SJW tranny, and he would never work for someone who doesn't even understand the concept of preferred pronouns.
>>81613371
I heard things were not that bad at the studio, as Disney employees made more than anybody else, Milt Kahl also reiterated this point. Also Disney was a perfectionist nightmare, which is why his films looked so damn good. His top 9 men were no different, specially Kahl. Another thing, the Animator's Union has raised the wages so high that most of your jobs will wind up in Red China or the NAM.
>>81607579
I wish I could have protected her.
>>81613528
How so? The only evidence we have is that he knows numerous female animators. By that logic, The Fleisher Bros were true predators, as no studio employed more women at the time. >>81603795
See this is what bothers me. Why wouldn't Katie go public? Is it that John's powerful? Are you guys implying that he's basically Jim Savile?
>>81613038
Kali is best girl bro. Get with the times.
>>81611936
>Arms.
I guess I can understand that. Bad back=bad arms=bad hand=no more animating.
>>81613224
>JOHN: There's two segments to your show. There's the stuff where you comment on the videos, and then there's the actual stories. Do you use scripts?
>MIKE: Yeah. but the video comments are never scripted. I just go in and improvise a lot of them. A lot of times, one of the writers will come and just hang out and kind of help out. but we just watch the video a bunch of times and then I go into the booth and mess around. Then Susie Lynn, the producer of those segments, goes in and lays all the voices over the video. Actually. one technical thing that I don't think has ever been mentioned in an article is that all the cutaways of B&B during the videos are all pulled from past shows ... well, most of them. Once in a while we'll animate one, but they're all...
>JOHN: Pulled out of other episodes?
>MIKE: Yeah, an editor just takes bits of them on the couch and syncs it up with mouth positions. Do you guys start with scripts?
>JOHN: No, we draw little doodles in the dirt in the sandbox... No, we don't use scripts. We write outlines, like five-page outlines. And then we go to storyboard.
>MIKE: That's what makes it, that's what's cool about it. You're not afraid...
>JOHN: To get fired.
>MIKE: You're not a wuss. Not afraid to, make a little less money. About six months ago someone was telling me, "Don't feel bad that you sold your rights, that you're not getting the cut of merchandising, John Kricfalusi just signed a multimillion-dollar deal with Warner Bros." Did that really happen?
>JOHN: Maybe on Earth 2 or something.
This interview gets real
>>81613224
>>81614083
>MIKE: Do you still get residuals?
>JOHN: Yeah, they're kind of small. You get these checks for 97 cents.
>MIKE: I get a check for $11 about every two months for the theme song.
>JOHN: That's more than I get. For some reason we don't get any money for the songs, and we wrote millions of songs.
>MIKE: Oh, yeah. You wrote "Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy. It's on an album.
>JOHN: Yeah, but that's not the real version. They re-recorded it.
>MIKE: Oh really? Just not to give you ...
>JOHN: I guess. I don't know. Bob Camp re-recorded it. It's his voice instead of my voice now.
>MIKE: Really? Man, that's cold-blooded.
>>81596738
>>he took all that money from his fans and used it on back surgery
>HE DID IT
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
But can he actually lie on the floor, with his back surgery and all...
he could seriously go to jail for this though
>>81597349
Is this a Star Wars joke?
>>81614083
>Earth 2
I thought John K stopped reading capes around the 70s
>>81615789
Yeah, but unlike you he's read cape comics from befor ethe 70s
>>81614808
>he could seriously go to jail for this though
I sentence you to prison for not making an animation
>>81616664
Another person here, but I could be mistaken, didn't he raise the funds though kickstarter and thus obligated to deliver a product?
I want to say he isn't, because didn't some batshit insane webcomic artist burn all of the books he made for kickstarter and no one got anything from it? Then KS wouldn't do anything because they aren't obligated to enforce the whole deliverance of promised goods?
>>81611936
It can cut off the propagation of action potentials for nerve impulses, which could lead to paralyzation of limbs.
>>81597537
Art school is unnecessary, but taking individual classes is helpful. A degree doesn't mean anything in art, but sometimes you need an experienced teacher to help you past certain blocks.
>>81607688
"So John, whatcha got for me?"
"Uh... here's some walk cycles. Of... cartoon animals"
"That's... that's great John."
>>81611072
>Literally the George Lucas of animators.
That's a fucking perfect description. I never realized the connection until now.
>>81616664
>>81616753
>>81616753
>because didn't some batshit insane webcomic artist burn all of the books he made for kickstarter and no one got anything from it?
The guy who did Comics for Sad Children.
Basically the pressure of real life and delivering the books just made him go over the edge and a bunch of people breathing down his neck about the books being delayed just exacerbated his problem.
The tl;dr of his rant was that the stress of perpetually worrying about having enough money to eat and pay rent for tomorrow and that he was burn books every day people ask him about them and not pitch into his let-me-live-a-normal-life fund.
It's really unfortunate. The guy is a complete wreck. Nobody deserves to lose their sanity like that.
>>81616753
>Then KS wouldn't do anything because they aren't obligated to enforce the whole deliverance of promised goods?
KickStarter could ban you or something but there is zero legal ramification for scamming people on KickStarter.
It's a combination of the fact that nothing on KickStarter is a guarantee and thus technically it's okay not to deliver, and also that the people who spend money on KickStarter are too stupid/lazy to start a class action suit and see it through.
>>81618997
It's more likely that what fucked up his sanity was all the drugs he likes to take, especially considering how insane and rambling and incoherent his rant was. Stress doesn't generally make people develop schitzophrenia.
>>81612581
If he calls you, tell him you want your entire salary for the project up front before you do a single drawing.
>>81619096
>Stress doesn't generally make people develop schitzophrenia.
It's a pretty good trigger.
I didn't know about the drugs.
>>81607579
delicious katie
>>81613528
>he's bias to a pair of tits rather than raw talent.
All of the girls in his harem have been pretty damn talented though. Have you seen Marlo or Katie's work?
>>81613960
Don't be so modest Katie
>>81619096
Actually stress is usually what makes schizophrenia come out in latentsDrugs don't but they sure can look like it, I'm looking at you there, Meth.
I would never work for John K. but I would pay him to teach me shit. He has a wealth of knowledge if you can put up with his shitty personality.
>>81597631
I want Katie to sit on my face
>>81603406
>daddy kinkWere you molested as a child?
>>81603406
Just look at this hot silver fox
>>81613255
The robot head is the only thing that that looks like it took more than 5 minutes to draw & animate. And even then, it still looks like something that would be posted on some art student's "work in progress" Youtube channel.
>>81619580
mmm, Katie
>>81619178
I love wedonwancha. But I'm sure their success has a lot to do with his mentorship.
>>81598579
I think he moved back a few months ago
>>81603406
Same tbqh
Here's something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRBjd4KijZA
>>81621875
cringing at the speed of light
i wonder how much worse it would have been if it was bob camp instead
>>81619580
>>81612638
Why do you both have awful tastes? God, if 4chan looked like real life then these dopey faced 4/10s would get all the beta orbiters.
>>81603406
I know a girl with a kink for terrorists and jihadis. Daddy kink isn't that bad
>>81622499
dubs of truth
>>81621598
>says feminist, liberal, secular female
really gay btw
>>81596738
>he still hasn't finished Cans Without Labels
Holy shit I forgot about that and I helped fund it.
>>81619178
look at that man jaw. it's so typical of white girls to be tall, ugly, and masculine looking.. asian women are short and petite and look so much better because they actually look like FEMALES
meanwhile when white woman are fat or skinny they look like shapeless shits either way lmao
>>81622499
>implying that's not how it works out IRL
You actually attended high school, right?
>>81622729
Anon, you may have heard of this thing called "plastic surgery."
>>81622723
Hope you didn't waste too much money on it.
>>81622723
Ask for your money back, or start a petition, or something.
>>81622980
Fuck that shit.
Imma wank it to raven's legs instead.You forget I'm the kind of guy to fund a kickstarter.
>>81622729
ITT people don't understand Katie is a meme.
>>81623026
I can't comment on your taste for legs, as I too enjoy that tight purple leotard, but try to spend your skrilla a little more wisely, I guess.
>>81622800
I'm an 18 year old senior and the only girls who get beta orbiters at the 6.5/7 and above girls who know how to dress and look pretty, not queen of the spergs'basement
>>81622723
hopefully you only donated 5 buck
>>81623394
It's like the Joosten girl, who is better looking than Katie but still an autists dream girl. However, Katie looks like she'd be popular with hillbillies so I wouldnt expect the general 4chan at wide to like her
>>81623827
You must have a fairly robust gene pool in your area on if the worst you have is 6.5.
>>81598769
>carmine: "I'm not John K lol"
>the other poster said nothing about him being john k
John, do you really have nothing better to do
>>81599533
There are still a lot of people out there that suck his dick because of R&S, no doubt people will fill up positions pretty quick. It's just a matter of whether or not they can handle actually working with him
>>81597835
His stuff is way lazier than modern cartoons that he constantly shits on
8 frame animation cycles reused endlessly
>>81624983
>guy holding the sign is an all-black backwards-cap glasses-wearing dumbass
>the fucking Seinfeld bee
What the fuck is this even?
>>81613255
>>81610797
The guy isn't even retirement age for another few years also Miyazaki made his last movie in his early 70s and still retained an excellent standard of workmanship.
>>81603406are you the anon who said grunkle stan make you want to fuck your dad
>>81607688
>No narrative
>literally just dancing and walk cycles
classic john k. music video
>>81625276
Besides, John K is so lazy that it's not like he's ever at risk of overworking himself at 60+ and having a stroke.
>>81625276
The Wind Rises? Yeh I remember when it came out the critics saying "Miyazaki's work retains its usual beauty and at 72, he shows no sign of having lost any skills."
But then he's also Japanese and is capable of almost inhumane levels of work that Westerners can't manage.
>>81611936
Why doesn't he just go back to Canada to get it done? Or did he fuck himself over by applying for citizenship?
>>81618783
That doesn't mean jail time, though, only lawsuits. And that's if any backers actually want to go to that kind of effort. It wouldn't even be worth it if you donated a few hundred dollars
>>81603406
The only option left.
I don't begrudge John for needing surgery. I wouldn't want anyone to suffer paralysis because they couldn't afford to get operated on, but he should have been honest and admitted that's what he really needed our money for.
>movies have George Lucas
>video games have Keiji Inafune
>cartoons have John K
>>81624859
no, it's just i dont live in a huckbilly autist town
and yes the gene pool is actually extremely robust
I have to wonder just what he did to trash his back anyway. I'm pretty sure John doesn't lug around cinderblocks for a living or do...any work for that matter.
>>81626098
Exept Lucas and keiji are actually influent and succesful on their respective fields
>>81626869
Inafune is begging on Kickstarter in order to get anything done and has no respect in the industry anymore. Lucas is only relevant because of all his dosh.
>>81626869
You say that like Ren and Stimpy did nothing to end the rush of cartoons made just to sell toys
>>81622619
Is this the new version of having a Nazi fetish?
>>81607688
Well it fits Miley
>>81625573
Clint Eastwood's still making movies, and he's practically a Lich at this point. What's your excuse?
>>81626869
Where is Mighty No. 9?
Yeah, the same place as Cans Without Labels.
I wonder how lazy animators used with years of simple modern cartoons would work under the pressure of that maniac.
>>81615789
Earth 2 was a thing in the 60's, remember?
>>81622619
That's pretty hot. How do I meet a girl like that?
>>81612695
gross
>>81607688
What's wrong with him. He complains all the time that new cartoons are stiff etc but his animation isn't better at all, I could made a more fluid animation than him
>>81611072
>His cartoons are awkward and unfunny
Sometimes there are gems in turd but nobody wants to excavate them
Yes it's mostly turd
>>81596738
So he is basically the animation equivalent of Tim Schafer
>>81597501
>implying John K will hire these newgrounds rejects
Cmon you just know here will hire short cute girls fresh out of college so he can creep on them like usual.
>>81629131
Don't forget about this amazing bastard. Sucks he didn't win that oscar.
>>81607688
reminds me of that Dave Cooper video for Danko Jones.
>His blog is very informative and you can learn a lot from it
>He's doing completely the opposite what he teaches
What the fuck is wrong with him
>>81611072
>Literally the George Lucas of animators.
At least George Lucas made franchise beloved by someones
Mandatory video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVEEOZ80Na4&nohtml5=False
>>81632434
Just read it bro. It sure as helped me out a lot. There's even a part where he tells you to steal color theories from animes. Because western ones are such shit.
>>81632568
Damn, this guy has some dad issues
>>81632795
His dad is a psychopath, typical Ukrainian
>>81632501
The people around George Lucas made franchises beloved by everyone. George Lucas is a garbage 'idea guy' and everything he came up with had to be redone entirely by someone competent before it got into the final product. Kind of like Bryke.
>>81597501
John K seems to me like the type of guy who cracks a few off color jokes every here and there, which would upset Shmorky's faggy brain
>>81633064
What's wrong with Bryke?
>>81633334
It would make Max cackle like a jackal.
>>81633337
Everything.
Have you seen the two new show outlines they were both trying to make? They're both hot fucking garbage.
>>81619178
She never paints nowadays
>>81632568
Always a woman... ALWAYS.
>>81597835
>2016
>Still complaining about Cal Arts and tumblr
>>81633538
What were their new show pitches about?
