Mary Sue Wars edition
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>>81561785
I never thought Star Wars would become a series about feminist Mary Sues upstaging the SILLY BOYS
Best uniform coming through
>>81561828
Mary Sues so far:
>Rey
>Ciena Ree
>Rogue One Katniss
is there going to be a new TRAITOR! stormtrooper?
>>81561828
why does everything with a female protag qualify as a fucking mary sue
>>81561910
because rey and this girl totally are mary sues that cant do no wron and they can do everything easily
they even said it on the trailer
STEP RIGHT UP FOLKS AND PLACE YOUR BETS, WHO WILL SURVIVE.
Poe, Snap, and Jess can't die, so we got the elder and the rookie
>>81561885
Superman is the only Mary Sue
>>81561910
Let's see, using Rey as an example
>She's kind, mature, and self-sacrificing
>Expert Mechanic (better than Han)
>Speaks every language featured in the film
>Ineffable moral code
>Better shot with a pistol than professional soldiers armed with rifles
>-Stronger in the force than Luke's former apprentice
>Flies the Falcon like Lando within two minutes of crashing it into the ground, including initiating and recovering from a low-altitude stall. Goes from rookie to expert pilot in no time.
>Successfully uses the Jedi Mind Trick on her second attempt.
>Knows how to use a lightsaber upon picking it up. Just compare that to Finn's experience, and Finn had professional CQC training since he was a small boy. She then absolutely schools a trained Force-user.
Her only "weakness'" are that she recoils from Luke's saber after touching it, which isn't even really a weakness since it's overcome just a little while later. She also doesn't want to leave Jakku so she doesn't miss her family if they come back for her.
The only weakness' the character actually has only plant the halo more firmly on her head. She shuns power and is loyal and trusting to a fault. So let's contrast that with Luke in A New Hope.
>Excellent pilot
>Good shot with a blaster
>Slight force ability
>Excellent moral compass
On top of that though, he's a naive, whiny ignorant farm-boy with a fantasy of being a hero. He isn't useful with the force, isn't good at fixing anything besides prying crap out of R2's chassis. He has zero skill with a lightsaber. He gets ambushed by sand people and passes out, and nearly gets disemboweled by an outlaw in the cantina until Obi-Wan saves him. He can't save his best friend, who gets disintegrated by Vader while protecting Luke, and nearly gets shot down twice before he even enters the trench. Even then he's only saved by Han swooping in to take out Luke's pursuers.
>>81561965
L'ulo is going to die
I can feel it in my heart
>Forest Whitaker
>Mads Mikkelson
>Donnie Yen
>Riz Ahmed
>directed by Gareth Edwards
>a return to the BASED original Galactic Civil War aesthetic
>no jedi in sight
And of course spergs are flipping out because the main character is a woman. It must be terrible, getting triggered every time a movie has a protagonist that isn't a white guy. I'm glad I don't have that problem.
>IT'S ABOUT A REBELLION AND THERE'S A WOMAN ITS JUST A HUNGER GAME RIPOFF STAR WARS IS RUINED
>>81561955
evidence plz
>>81561955
>they can do everything easily
>they even said it on the trailer
Because they're assembling a team to find the Death Star plans, the most secure military secret in the galaxy? Maybe you need people that are skilled for that. Luke was an OP farmboy.
>>81561785
Anyone else already want to punch this bitch in the face?
>>81561885
don't bring Ciena into this. She falls into a depression hole and loses half her torso.
>>81562012
This is why I can't stand coming here all that much and talk about the movies, some people can't talk about the things they like and are already retroactively hating it because of one thing, a girl.
>next decade of Star Wars is going to be apologizing for white male guilt
Kill me
>>81562072
>with ma dick
>>81562072
>felicity jonesyeah with my di-ah fuck it
>>81562139
>>81562072
>>81561828
>>>/pol9k/
>>81562072
She doesn't look hot in this pic at all. It wasn't until I saw the trailer today that I realized she was pretty nice looking.
>>81561828
You never thought Star Wars, the series that is literally about Mary Sues, would become about girls, who are literally 50% of the population?
OK. Stay in school.
/pol/ or bait? I can't decide.
>>81562139
don't you mean the previous ones?
>>81561851
Is that supposed to be Tarkin?
>>81562139
You mean
>next decade of Star Wars is going to be apologizing for the lack of new canon/live action Star Waifus
My dick can't wait
>>81561785
I have no interest in this movie at all. It looks like one of those young adult adaptions, not Star Wars.
>>81561851
>best uniform
They didn't even iron that cape. This presents a poor image of the Empire. This man is hereby sentenced to the spice mines.
>>81562230
It's just bait.
>>81562242
No.
>>81561965
I go with both, not enough time to come up with reasons they are not in TFA and Kare is obviously not based on a real person like the others.
Rogue One looks super lame to me. My friend is super excited and s going to pay for my ticket.
I mean I guess I'll go...
>>81562242
No but there will be a CGI Pete Cushing
yay...I really wish I made this up
>>81562012
I was hyped for Rey, up until I saw the movie. This movie is going to have to prove to me that they're going to give her a real character, not another conflictless perfect at everything goodie goodie.
>>81562295
I've read all the new canon books and comics. Even the shit ones.
Why should I quit being autistic now?
>>81562297
I heard that. I hope it's nothing more than a background appearance
>>81562006
>She's kind, mature, and self-sacrificing
so is luke. he has his moments of immaturity, but when you look at his actions, even in ep 4 he's pretty fucking solid.
>Expert Mechanic (better than Han)
she spent her life surviving on a scrapyard planet. also, just because she solved one problem doesn't mean she's better than han.
>Speaks every language featured in the film
this is barely even a point. being multilingual isn't some kind of superpower, it was just there to show that finn was relatively isolated.
>Ineffable moral code
name one time luke broke his moral code. he clearly used his anger in battle, but so did she.
>Better shot with a pistol than professional soldiers armed with rifles
so was every OT hero. also, he was a better shot with proton torpedoes than the rest of the elite squadron he joined. you know why? the fucking force.
>-Stronger in the force than Luke's former apprentice
no. he had a bowcaster hole in his side during the fight, and was clearly getting worse the whole time. if you're talking about the mind invasion thing, he was NOT expecting her to be force sensitive and got blindsided.
>Flies the Falcon like Lando within two minutes of crashing it into the ground, including initiating and recovering from a low-altitude stall. Goes from rookie to expert pilot in no time.
>Successfully uses the Jedi Mind Trick on her second attempt.
she just had a fucking brain invasion tutorial. luke made a 1-in-a-million shot at the end of the movie and somehow that's more plausible than a mind trick?
>Knows how to use a lightsaber upon picking it up. Just compare that to Finn's experience, and Finn had professional CQC training since he was a small boy. She then absolutely schools a trained Force-user.
she fought with melee weapons all her life. she had WAY more training like that than even ESB luke, and her opponent was handicapped
>>81562218
>>81562072
Wow, I don't know you, never will probably, pretty sure i would hate you.
>>81562242
No? Why would you think that's Tarkin?
>>81562275
>>81561851
Is that a skull on his belt buckle?
>>81562230
/tv/ is having a pure shitstorm about this right now. Except its less about leads being mary sue and more "muh white male leads"
I hate that board
>>81561851
dat a e s t h e t i c
>>81562362
it is
>>81562297
>>81562337
Fuck you naysayers, it will be great
>>81562348
What? I'm just saying that I didn't think she was attractive until I saw some better angles. She's not bad at all.
>>81562407
wow, they're really laying on the whole "Empire is evil" motif
>>81562370
If you told them Diego Luna's name was actually David Miller they wouldn't even notice he's not white
>look at /tg/ thread
>they're just chilling and talking about the imperial tech in the trailer
this side of it is making me really excited for the movie. I can gloss over that "I RE-BELLE" line.
>>81562370
Because white male leads are more relatable to most of the world's audience. I can't relate to female characters at all.
>>81562297
>No but there will be a CGI Pete Cushing
Do you think it would look better than the CGI young Jeff Bridges? I'll be honest, that was creepy.
>>81562362
Looks like an indent in the middle of the belt buckle.
>>81562459
You're one of those guys that believes girls and boys can't be friends without one of them wanting to bang the other, aren't you?
just watched the new trailer and wtf??
where was luke, rey, finn, bb-8, poe, chewie, r2, leia, etc??
>>81562006
>>She's kind, mature, and self-sacrificing
Rey is not particularly kind, and is quite immature
>>Expert Mechanic (better than Han)
She's been scavenging parts her entire life.
>>Speaks every language featured in the film
Meaningless.
>>Ineffable moral code
Just like Luke and Leia.
>>Better shot with a pistol than professional soldiers armed with rifles
Stormtroopers have never been able to shoot for shit.
>>-Stronger in the force than Luke's former apprentice
So she's the Mace Windu of her generation.
>>Flies the Falcon like Lando within two minutes of crashing it into the ground, including initiating and recovering from a low-altitude stall. Goes from rookie to expert pilot in no time.
"I've flow ships before but never left orbit"
>>Successfully uses the Jedi Mind Trick on her second attempt.
Yes, after having been mind-interrogated by Kylo and deciphering what he was doing.
Would
>>81562486
>girls and boys can't be friends without one of them wanting to bang the other
Because it's true. I cannot emotionally relate to a female, especially on a level of "friendship".
>>81562503
you're silly
i like you
>>81562440
More like they're laying on the whole 'Empire is sexy as fuck and has great uniforms aesthetic' motif
>>81562531
Did you just come from the mosque, brother?
>>81562459
Then you might be on the spectrum. Oh wait, I'm in a general on 4chan. Sorry to bother you buddy!
>Do you think it would look better than the CGI young Jeff Bridges?
I hope it's brief and close to the quality of CGI young Michael Douglas in Ant-Man's prologue
>>81562531
Sounds like a personal problem
>>81562504
Just stop Anon.
>>81562531
Oh boy.
Obligatory >>>/r9k/
So, guys.
POE MOVIE WHEN?
>>81562459
>I can't relate to anything that's not exactly like me
You might be autistic
>>81561902
Yeah, /tv/ found NAP-R.
>>/tv/67974574
>>81562545
>Empire is sexy as fuck and has great uniforms aesthetic
damn straight
>>81562531
Ok, you're clearly autistic or something. And I'm not using that in the "4chan buzzword" sense.
I'm sorry normal life and interactions are so puzzling to you.
>>81562338
as far as the piloting thing, which I had to delete because comments were too long: she had a flight sim in her AT-AT house and luke was just some kid who shot womp rats who blew up the death star. do you seriously believe dealing with 2 tie fighters in a large, shielded freighter was harder than THE DEATH STAR?
her weaknesses, to address that point, are that she's a deeply fearful person. she could've left jakku years ago, but didn't, because what else could the galaxy have for her? She's afraid of the lightsaber and the force and kylo ren, because she's the opposite of luke. he wanted to get out into the galaxy, but couldn't leave his family. she wanted her family to come to her on jakku and to stay in a place that was shitty, but at least couldn't fail her more; but her moral nature pulled her away from this. Up until the moment she takes that lightsaber in the duel, she's trying to run away, to return, to cower -- just from a different angle than finn.
>>81562579
SLEEP TIGHT N4-PR
>>81562579
Is he dead or is he just knocked out?
>>81562579
REE THE MORE WE LINK TO THE THREAD THE QUICKER IT'LL SPREAD WHAT ARE YOU DOING
it'll be on reddit tonight, buzzfeed by tomorrow
>>81562561
Fuck Poe, I want a movie about Unkar Plutt first!
>>81562486
>>81562531
>>81562554
>>81562556
>>81562572
I honestly don't understand how a guy could relate to a female. Especially emotionally. Guys and girls are way too different.
Can someone seriously explain?
>Royal Guard cameo
Maybe for once they'll actually do something
>>81562642
>Fuck Poe
CAN DO!
>>81562459
You sound like a faggot
>>81562643
Talk to your therapist about it at your next appointment.
>>81562643
How about you fuck off to /r9k/ and shitpost there.
>>81562643
Serious question: do you think girls have cooties?
>mfw we get the Emperor
>>81562643
>>81562643
Do you have a male friend? Do you feel sorry for him when you see him fail? Do you feel happy for him when he succeeds?
Take those feelings and apply it to a female.
>>81562362
>Is that a skull on his belt buckle?
>>81562733
Nigga, I know they do.
>>81562753
But guys and females do not feel the same happiness or sadness. Guys learn from disparity. Girls become hysteric. Guys can feel pride in their achievements. Girls get cocky.
>>81562643
>mfw
>>>/r9k/
>>81562643
no, they're definitely different. But relating to a soldier is always easier. That's why I liked Finn, even though I didn't like that he was cast for being black.
reminder that jyn has a cute butt
>>81562812
>Guys learn from disparity. Girls become hysteric.
Oh honey. Being serious, what are you basing this on? Anime stereotypes?
>>81561828
Star Wars was ALWAYS Leftist/Liberal propaganda trash. Remember how Princess Leia was an unrealistically capable ass kicker who was rude and the males put up with her BS? Or how about that the Empire was composed SOLELY of Evil White Men while the heroes were multicultural? Lando anyone?
Putting it simply it was always like that. Just that it was more "subtle" but as always there's a slippery slope.
So why is she wearing an Imperial outfit in the trailer? Does she defect?
>>81562812
>Guys learn from disparity. Girls become hysteric.
tell that to /tv/ because it's hilarious watching them shit themselves in impotent rage because the main character is GASP a woman
>>81562525
Do you think we will see Mon Mothma in the movie more, or will she just be there in a couple of scenes?
>>81562828
Sorry, I'm distracted by the cute droid butt
>>81562812
All the traits you mentioned are basic human traits that apply to literally everyone.
>>81562812
>>81562828
She was supposed to be ASM Black Cat.
>>81562823
>I didn't like that he was cast for being black.
The part was conceived and written as a white man.
John Boyega gave the better casting audition and won the part through merit.
>>81562890
Is that you, grievousanon?
>>81562504
So to sum up
>She has all the positive qualities of all three MC of the OT, learns Force techniques faster than Luke could even when fucking Yoda was teaching him, and basically can do everything better than anyone
Feel free to stop posting anytime.
>>81562867
It's a fucking disguise you moron
Are you guys done feeding the troll, or is this thread going to be a washout too?
>>81562812
see, when you feel that way, it's a form of misogyny. please see a therapist. your life will improve.
>>81562851
>Oh honey.
I will not be talking down to by a girl. I expect a certain level of respect.
>>81562851
He's not even trying to hide the fact that he's baiting anymore.
>>81562867
No but Luke and Han do
>>81562951
>misogyny
Fuck off.
>>81562887
Probably only a few scenes.
>>81562525
>They got the original actress who played her in the Prequels to reprise the role like they did with Ian McDiarmid for the prequels.
That's actually pretty cool.
>>81562887
>Do you think we will see Mon Mothma in the movie more, or will she just be there in a couple of scenes?
I really hope she's a major character, but the nature of the secret mission means she's probably there to send Gin&Tonic off.
>>81562922
>casting audition and won the part through merit.
I like Boyega but that isn't true at all. He got the part because JewJew wanted his black bull in the movie and if he didn't get it he was walking. Thank God Boyega was an actual good actor and not one of the American gangsta niggers.
>>81561785
Congratulations OP, you started this thread in the worst possible way. I'd take fetish shit over this.
>>81562986
>>81562932
NOOO. NOSTALGIA BAITING AGAIN. STAR WARS IS DOOOMEEDDDD. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYeah, I'm stupid. forgot about that.
>>81562927
>Feel free to stop posting anytime.
So to sum it up, she's exactly the kind of protagonist the new star wars series needed to get off the ground.
>>81562963
I'm sorry, I gave it away too easily
>>81562998
I know I'm just a stupid girl, but that's literally what misogyny is. Not even in the Tumblr reactionary way.
>it's an "anon doesn't get to see what live action Cad Bane looks like until July or some shit" episode
>>81563080
tell me about Bane! Why does he wear the hat?!
>>81562998
>Fuck off.
Did you know that Moffs hold Moffrences?
>>81563053
>Being a Mary Sue is a GOOD thing shitlord!
Are you even trying anymore faggot?
>>81563131
I thought it was called an Orgy of Moffs?
>>81563025
Nah he got the part because JJ saw Attack the Block and he was great in it
jesus can you faggots post without your gayass cuck memes in every single thread?
How often do you people think about black dicks?
>>81562579
You know the new Star Wars movies suck when the only positive thing people can find about them are random Stormtroopers
>>81563062
Star Wars general was better before it wasn't overrun by girls. We picked up so many of them after TFA.
>>81562812
Yeah, but those are trends, anon. I've known guys who act like you say girls act and vice versa.
You're implying that if you're a girl you MUST be this way and if you're a guy you MUST be that way, and that just ain't true.
>>81563025
>his black bull
he doesn't even hook up with rey in the movie
>>81563080
>it's a "he still thinks Cad Bane's in the movie" episode
>>81563180
>How often do you people think about black dicks?OFTEN
>>81563135
weak bait, go cry about your paranoia on /pol/ or some other place that cares
>>81563197
>Star Wars general was better before it was overrun by /tv/
There you go
>>81563025
>I like Boyega but that isn't true at all.
It is true.
>He got the part because JJ wanted a black protagonist in the movie
Not true, Boyega gave the best audition. Finn was written as a white man, in fact Poe Dameron was conceived as a black man.
>Thank God Boyega was an actual good actor and not one of the many qualified african american actors available for the part
Boyega did bring something special, but there are others who could have held their own in the part.
>>81562319
I mean, all these characters are supposed to die, so hows that for conflict?
>>81563135
>>Being a Mary Sue is a GOOD thing shitlord!
>Are you even trying anymore faggot?
>>81563228
>it's a "he's paid by Disney to undermine faith in the leak" episode
>this thread
>>81563195
>only positive thing people can find about them are random Stormtroopers
Many of us here like the AT-ATs and that Imperial Grand Admiral.
>>81563197
>Star Wars general was better
SWG was better when a bunch of trolls didn't come here and shit in it for laughs.
>>81562362
Yes.
They realized that people actually liked the Empire so they had to drive home the fact that they're irredeemably evil.
>>81563267
>>81563135
Seriously just go back to your safe space. I'm sure they'll all agree with you there. And you won't have to worry about women or minorities except that's all you faggots post about anyways.
>>81563267
>I bet Vader jobs to this bitch
It's interesting that you think that considering we never see or hear of her in any of the movies and it's very possible she will die.
>>81563197
Girls have the best fan art saved tho
>>81562867
Red herring without a doubt. They just timed that part of the speech to a scene where she is disguising herself.
Most likely, anyway.
>>81563261
>Not true, Boyega gave the best audition. Finn was written as a white man, in fact Poe Dameron was conceived as a black man.
No, Abrams wanted a "diverse" lead, Disney was set to cast a white male but Abrams threw a fit.
>Thank God Boyega was an actual good actor and not one of the many qualified african american actors available for the part
LMAO African Americans "actors" are shit, literal stereotypes personified. Except for MBJ, JEJ, and Keith David, every single one of them is shit.
>>81563312
That'll just make the Empireboos like them more
Skulls are cool, after all
>>81563267
Hunger Games and YA in general are what sells these days. Be thankful we got the cartoons where the money was going to roll in regardless so the writers could get creative
>>81563284
Can you list a few of Rey's MEANINGFUL flaws?
being too much of a good person to consider her parents aren't coming back, or having too much strength of character to accept superfluous help don't count.
>>81563267
It is going to be like that. Did you even see the leaks? Don't trust the trailers.
>>81563267
>>81563135
low-effort iphone trolling from a /pol9k/ visitor. sad!
>>81563230
You care faggot. Fuck off back to tumblr.
Do you think Rogue Squadron is going to try and sabotage the 'Secret Weapon' when they know exactly what it is? We know it won't be successful, but will Rogue Squadron try to do it though?
>>81563345
I'm curious as to see what the demographics of SWG are. The fandom itself is probably one of the most diverse out there.
>>81563378
This.
>implying Disney can do literally anything to make me not love the Galactic Empire
I welcome them to try but it's futile.
>>81563267
>fuck you Disney
Why is /co/ saying this? Disney has been Gynocentric since Snow White. They only care about vagina demographics.
>>81563436
We could start a general on /soc/
>>81563416
we hated the mary sue. this character doesn't seem like a mary sue. Plus, it seems like her character is forced to stick with her team, so there's a chance that she won't get all of the spotlight/saving moments.
dont give in to your fears you nigger.
Can we nuke this thread and start over?
>>81563308
>Bland white male instead of Thrawn
Why? Fucking why?That outfit is /fa/bulous though
>>81563342
One can hope.
>>81562579
>N4-PR.
So what is this all about?
>>81563416
lol if you don't wanna come off as a desperate samefag next time, don't use an iphone when you troll.
>>81563372
>No, Abrams wanted a "diverse" lead, Disney was set to cast a white male but Abrams threw a fit.
Boyega was cast on the strength of his performance in Imperial Dreams.
>LMAO African Americans "actors" are shit, literal stereotypes personified. Except for MBJ, JEJ, and Keith David, every single one of them is shit.
Anthony Mackie, Laurence Fishburne, Jamie Fox, there's a plethora of talent.
>>81563462
/co/ isn't saying this. The /tv/ and /pol/ dumbasses invading this thread because of the bait OP are saying this.
>>81563342
Never hear of Ashoka either but Filoni still pussied out of actually killing her, and tons of waifufags throw out increasingly large asspulls to justify her staying alive.
>>81563399
Where are these leeks? And why would they have the movie be BoB esque but market the trailer as some Hunger Games/Divergent ripoff?
>>81563501
Let's not respond to bait and we'll be fine. What do you want to talk about anon?
>>81563522
A /tv/ meme.
>>81563474
Done.
ALL WINGS CHECK IN
>>>/soc/23608342
>>81561785
>Mary Sue Wars edition
I don't know if we've seen enough of this new chick to say that.
Rey's a piece of shit though. Only waifufags defend her
>>81563436
>I'm curious as to see what the demographics of SWG are
Let's have a look.
http://strawpoll.me/7308525
http://strawpoll.me/7308509
Vote in both.
>>81563534
Morgan Freeman, Samuel L Jackson
>>81563534
>Anthony Mackie
Haven't heard of him.
> Laurence Fishbourne
Point to you he is good.
>Jamie Fox
Oh fuck no, he's such a little bitch and he is awful in everything I've seen him in.
>>81561785
>Female Main Lead
>Mary Sue
Is this what Korra has done to us? I saw this shit all over the place about Rey being a Mary Sue, even though she's not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpS6TlqgLIQ
>>81563642
>And you fags get stuff from tumblr,
because all sorts of art is posted there and we aren't insecure retards like you who believe in false dichotomies?
>unironically refer to this general as a "safe space"
Oh right, we all do. I forgot. Feel free to project and assume away. Just do it somewhere else. You literally admitted you're trolling, which is something only the shittiest trolls do. So why are you even posting? Go back to /tv/ to join all the other whiny babies crying about star wars starring a woman.
>>81563395
>Can you list a few of Rey's MEANINGFUL flaws?
>being too much of a good person to consider her parents aren't coming back, or having too much strength of character to accept superfluous help don't count.
Denial and stubbornness are negative traits regardless of your spin.
But more specifically her arrogance in flipping the circuit breakers on Han's ship lead to the ship being overtaken by Rathars,and them fleeing in the falcon brought the first order to Maz's castle, which lead to Rey being defeated and captured by Kylo. Rey getting caught indirectly lead to Han's death.
Rey is headstrong, and she made choices that endangered countless others around her.
>>81563743
Rey was a clear mary sue. It's not her fault however. I have a writer friend in Hollywood and she says the problems with female leads in film is that you either don't have time to truly build a character up to the level they want to or people are afraid that if you take the time to develop a female character and start them helpless that people will think you're sexist. It's literally now impossible to win with a female lead
I'm so tired of these mary sues. I like to remember the good days when heroes weren't just perfect rebellious ass kicking machines that didn't just dismantle any problem they came across.
Like john matrix from commando, or John Spartan from demolition man, or Conan the barbarian from Conan the destroyer, Or James Dalton from roadhouse, Or James Bond, or Snake Plissken, or Dirty Harry.
Those guys were all about their vulnerability and shortcomings not about how just bad ass they were. but nope if you make a lady it's gotta be a mary sue. Oh how times have changed for the worst.
Some of you people need to learn what a Mary Sue is
>>81563743
>Is this what Korra has done to us?
Nope. America is growing tired of these unrealistic Female Leads that are Men with Tits. Basically not true to female nature. Anyone remember that former Disney animator who used to work on Little Mermaid making his own project and he literally said something along the lines of:
"This mini-series about plane engineers will be unique. It stars two female leads."
As if America hasn't been bombarded with this shit for a while now. It's so pretentious and obnoxious by now.
>>81562858
>"subtle"
how was more subtle?
>>81563865
Uh anon? All of those perfectly describe Rey. Literally to a T.
>>81563852
Unfortunate but unsurprising
>>81563584
Bump
>>81563876
I feel bad for you if you genuinely believe this. I hope you learn at some point not to be such a stupid mouthbreathing retard. Now please stop posting. No one cares about your irrational prejudices
>>81563572
HUnger Game ripoffs? It's not about survival or throwing a government over. It's just a heist movie.
I'll post the links even if you are a b8er.
http://imgur.com/a/qhbaW
>>81563852
huh, makes sense I suppose. I guess no one wants to spend millions on making a movie where the MC spends 2:30 hours going through training.
>>81563876
>pretending to be an uninformed racist on an anonymous image board just to stir up trouble
>>81563876
Funny the reply thread was originally about black american actors and black british actors, but now the goal posts moved to just all of them
>>81563865
All of those describe Rey really fucking good. She just happens to know how to perfectly fly through an Imperial Ship and do insane maneuvers only someone like Han can do when she specifically said that she's never flown the Falcon and that it was a piece of junk yet she knew which buttons to press at which times and instances during the flight to do those maneuvers and pushing those levers?
She just so happens to know how the doors work on a Death Star shes never been on before? She instantly knows how to use the Force Mind Tricks after them being done to her only once?
She's literally the Chosen One
>>81563876
>See, I'm tired of people trying to say there are good black actors, when there aren't.
You're wrong.
>You could only name three, two which are absolutely shit, especially Jamie Fox.
I named three acclaimed actors off the top of my head literally googling for black actors will show you an immense level of talented men and women.
>Blacks have never been ggod at anything other then Rap and USE to be good at Jazz but then again Whites created Jazz; they are absolute shit at being actors.
1. White people did not create Jazz
2. There are many black men more accomplished than you will ever be
>Alright, I'll give you another +1 for making peanut butter but that's it Anon.
African Americans did not invent peanut butter.
>>81561965
Does that species have a canon name yet? I keep seing them everywhere - Uprising, TFA, comics too.
>>81564020
Would be neat if they pull an Episode VI where everyone though Luke was the chosen one but it was really Vader.
>>81562828
This movie is going to be released in IMAX, right?
Why are people bitching about Rogue One having a female protagonist now when we knew Felicity Jones was the lead for a year?
>>81564052
You obviously missed a step by not reading Moving Target, which introduces us to that species. (It's called Abednedo)
>>81564087
Because people like bitching, and there's no place better than here for it
>>81564087
/tv/ having a shitfit about it and they decided to come here and whine about it because arguing in an echo-chamber stops being fun.
>>81564068
>but it was really Vader.
>Implying Vader was the chosen one
Plagueis survived as Snoke and Rey is actually the chosen one who will destroy the sith.
>>81563893
>Female Leads that are Men with Tits
How do Rey or Leia or Padme strike you as 'men with tits'
Rey is athletic, is she a man because of that? Are there no female athletes?
Leia doesn't take shit and is abrasive and domineering. Does she have a big ol' pecker in her pants?
Padme wears more dresses than all of alderaan but can get shit done. Does her leadership give her a y chromosome?
>>81564087
Because no one except a very small group even knew Rogue One was a thing until yesterday.
Reminder that Anakin is literally called THE CHOSEN ONE
>>81562362
Its an identifier chip, just like tarkin's belt and imp officer caps.
>>81564020
I love how the only defense for her being such a Mary Sue is the whole "She was totally in Luke's Jedi Academy you guys, she just got mindwiped for no reason."
Rey a cute
Tbh
>>81564178
But he's an shit who fucked everything up
>>81564152
>it's a Plagueis is Snoke episode again
>>81564133
>we're bitching about the bitching
this entraps me every time, but I can never stopuntil the other anon just stops responding
>>81564209
Felicity Jones a CUTER
>>81564087
I was told it was an ensemble cast and there was no lead
>mfw friend's theory that Rey is Palpatine's daughter
>>81564161
Neither Padme nor Leia are leads. And Men with Tits are characters who literally would've been the same if they were men and being a woman adds nothing at all.
>>81564178
Not to mention that Luke goes toe-to-toe with him in Empire Strikes Back despite basically being something that amounts to less than a padawan
>>81562338
>so is luke.
That right there fucks your entire argument. Luke had flaws man, Rey does not. Literally the only thing that was considered a flaw is that "she's too kind/trusting" which is a bullshit thing to call a flaw.
If your entire defense consists of saying other characters must also be Sues then you're arguing an utterly flawed point.
>>81564020
Books had her piloting attributed to experience with flight sims, which could have easily been handled as a good throwaway line if JJ bothered.
>>81564294
>Goes toe to toe
>Not realizing that Vader was literally fucking with him
>>81564280
>Palpatine's daughter
>Palpatine died like 30 years ago
>Rey ain't 30
>>81563865
>The Sue is instantly liked by all other characters
>Multiple characters fall in love with her usually for no reason
Finn falls in love with her. Han gives her a job. Leia comforts her over fucking Chewie. Maz gives her the lightsaber. Kylo wants her to be his student. Snoke wants her.
>The Sue is unrealistically intelligent, courageous, and/or selfless
>The Sue learns difficult things unrealistically fast.
Rey is a scavenger on a desert planet with no watching over her but a asshole trader. Luke had his aunt and uncle but Rey has no one. Yet instead of being a selfish shit like Ezra is initially she's selfless and caring putting BB-8 over food even though she just fucking met him. She learns about the Force and then almost immediately after master high-level Force techniques that take other characters years to learn. The first time she wields a lightsaber she beats a man who's trained years in its use. She overpowers this same man in a Gorce duel of the minds with zero training. Not even Luke in ROTJ could keep Vader out of his mind but Rey can keep Kylo out even though she should be scared shitless.
>The Sue has no or insignificant character flaws
None of Rey's supposed "flaws" seriously impact her and she's already over them by the end. While Luke's recklessness bit him in the ass repeatedly, in both ESB and ROTJ, Rey overcomes her "fear" in the same movie and is all set to be a Jedi with zero qualms about her family anymore.
>The character is living the authors fantasies
This one is harder to prove and may be the only one Rey doesn't meet.
>>81564020
>She just so happens to know how the doors work on a Death Star shes never been on before?
Beautiful thing about imperial design, all their ships are uniform. Just like the wrecks on Jakku.
>She instantly knows how to use the Force Mind Tricks after them being done to her only once?
She gets mindbattled by Kylo Ren several times during his interrogation of her.
Seems like stormtrooper armors has been changed in this movie
seperate cod, black strap hold the bak and upper front armor together. Seperate backplates, eyes are further apart and "angrier". brow is closer to the eyes, bow inside on the arm
I really hope Finn's father is Landoand his mother is Leia
>>81564312
is 30 years the timeline?
>>81564294
Confirmed for watching with your ass. He never goes toe to toe with Vader in ESB. Vader is toying with him during the majority of the fight and when he starts putting effort in it, he almost immediately chops of his arm
>>81564335
Finn's too black
This is not the official /swco/ thread, this is a /pol/ shitposting thread. Go to the real one.
>>81564294
Vader could have choked him to death if he really wanted him dead.
>>81561785
It looks kinda bad honestly.
>>81564335
>Finn is probably the niggest nigger this side of Africa
>implying he could've had a white parent
Nah
>>81562362
No.
Standard issue Imperial dress uniform belt.
>>81564286
>And Men with Tits are characters who literally would've been the same if they were men and being a woman adds nothing at all.
If a character being a woman adds nothing, why is that bad?
I wonder if 501st will show up in the movie
>>81564342
Yeah. Rey is 19, Kylo is a little under 30 in TFA.
The funny part is that we knew very early on that TFA would be 30 years after ROTJ, but that still didn't stop people from pushing insane theories that were already disproven simply by the timeline, such as Rey being the daughter of Palpatine or Obi-Wan (with Satine as the mother in a few versions, which is even more insane), or Finn being the son of Han and his fake ex-wife Sana.
>>81564387
I wouldn't say it looks "bad" it just looks like every single big budget blockbuster trailer ever made
>>81564321
>Ren several times during his interrogation of her.
And she INSTANTLY knows how to perform this trick just because it was fucking performed on her? Do you not see how fucking STUPID that is? Or how dumb it is that while Kylo is mind-raping her, not only can she force him out with ZERO TRAINING SHE FUCKING MIND-RAPES HIM BACK AND STEAL HIGH-LEVEL TECHNIQUES FROM HIS FUCKING MIND.
She's. A. Mary. Sue. Or failing that, an OP piece of shit that would fit right in with the Old EU.
>>81564415
Man those rank insignias are lazy as fuck
>>81564314
>She learns about the Force and then almost immediately after master high-level Force techniques that take other characters years to learn.
She used a mindtrick once on a single stormtrooper.
>The first time she wields a lightsaber she beats a man who's trained years in its use.
Who was bleeding from a gut wound and severely emotionally compromised, and already wounded from Finn.
>>81564324
Do you have some images of it? If they did change the armor could it be for stunt-actor comfort or could it just be different uniforms for different regions?
Since these stormtroopers work in coordination with Death Star security, could they have better armor than just the regular stormies elsewhere?
>>81564475
It's efficient
>>81564485
Just looked at the trailer. I'm talking about the regular armor.
apparently her name is Jyn Erso according to french subtitles.
>>81561785
i dont get why they dont have bonthans in this. also the whole atmosfere feels SOOO FUCKING SYNTETIC COMPUTER GAME..
>>81564475
Well yeah, ANH was fairly low-budget so a lot of props and set pieces were just crap they put together on the fly. Even when the budget was there in the later movies the visuals had already been established.
Is Snoke in the tube?
>>81564510
>Bothans
Wrong Death Star
So what was Rogue One qt name? I heard something like Jen Ors. Wasn't she Kyle Katarns pilot in Jedi Knight 2?
>>81564474
>And she INSTANTLY knows how to perform this trick just because it was fucking performed on her?
She has a battle of wills with Kylo, he does his psychic mind thing to try and compel her to release her secrets, and she starts to realize she can see into his mind as well.
KYLO REN IS SO UNNERVED BY HER FORCE POTENTIAL HE GOES RIGHT OT SNOKE TO MENTION IT.
Afterwards she tries out the trick on the stormtrooper, FAILS, then tries again.
>Do you not see how fucking STUPID that is? Or how dumb it is that while Kylo is mind-raping her, not only can she force him out with ZERO TRAINING SHE FUCKING MIND-RAPES HIM BACK AND STEAL HIGH-LEVEL TECHNIQUES FROM HIS FUCKING MIND.
None of that happened as you're exaggerating. She figures out Kylo isn't as scary as he thinks he is.
Rey got a cool scene to do.
>>81564571
No, that's just Palpatine in the shower. He's a Sith Lord who rules an evil Empire, so even his shower looks scary.
He's going to step out fully nude and say "oh hello, be a dear and hand me that towel would you?" and be amused that you can't stop looking at his Sheev Peev
>>81564510
>Bothans during ANH era
also this movie at least looks pretty good. the only thing I'm not liking is the obvious cgi robot buddy.
>>81564204
Don't forget she knew where to hide exactly on the Falcon and fix that gas leak from a ship she's never been on in her life
man it must hurt to get thwacked by ip-man in a suit of armor.
>>81564475
>Man those rank insignias are lazy as fuck
Having been in the military, insignias that clear would be a god-send.
Every American branch has different symbols and sometimes the same names for different ranks for officers. It's a god damn nightmare to navigate.
>>81564610
Jyn Erso.
>>81564650
>Sheev Peev
>>81562828
ohh fuck you.. such dumbfucks like you killed the Star Wars.
>>81564571RANGERS
>>81564415
can someone explain how the imperial insignias work? I'm confused by the color codes.
>>81564710
They're lazy in the sense that they're not aesthetically pleasing
Clear as fuck, sure, but not pretty to look at
>>81564633
>Rey got a cool scene to do.
She already had plenty.
>>81564650
>tfw Sheev has his guards watch him shower
Truly a cruel but just Emperor
Also I'm guessing people have pointed these proto FO shuttles out already but
