Good evening owls of /co/,
Yeah, we really do have five+ issues of this left
>>81531271
I see Fisto got an upgrade.
>>81531271
so tell me about what came out today
because I will never not be giggling at "Todd Ziller", let me tell you
>>81531271
T-Thanks, Jim
>>81531347
That dude being the ACTUAL marine from the atheist college professor email chain? Fuckin' A
>>81531347
Cranky, leave the nice people in the "What did you like in the new 52" thread alone and come play with us
>>81531347
Midnighter, Vision, and Sheriff were good
Black Panther had a serviceable #1
Also got Image Expo news and there's a crap ton of stuff coming out this fall
>>81531404
SO WHAT GOOD TODAY?
>>81531347
>so tell me about what came out today
I only read Superman 51 and GL 51 because I am behind on all all the good stuff (Sheriff of Babylon, Vision, Midnighter, etc)
Superman was pretty good, GL was meh (surprise)
>>81531271
Hello Storyteller.
>Yeah, we really do have five+ issues of this left
Okay, now you fucks really need to stop fucking fighting, because it's boring as hell.
>>81531347
Yeah, please let Ewing write New Avengers forever. Rotate in different cast members, I don't care, that book deserves one of those dozens of issues runs everybody used to get.
Black Panther wasn't... amazing? But it was really fucking solid. I'm looking forward to more, absolutely. Great choice for an opening set of problems for T'Challa to deal with, and having a conflict that's not "beat the bad guy" is fantastic.
Haven't checked WWEO.
>>81531347
I haven't read much yet. Superman was better than expected, I think the slog that was SMWW was mostly bringing Tomasi down.
>>81531347
>YUUUUUU
>ESSSSSSSSS
>AAYYYYYYYYYYY
A lot of shit was good, yo. Apollo still flies dick-first into danger, Newvengers was America/10, BP is probably going to be the best BP comic since Priest even though TNC's still got his noob wheels on, and The Fix was fun.
I'm fake-mad that Mik is probably not showing in Midnighter, tho, and the fucking dog in The Fix didn't show up until the last page. FUCKERS
>>81531439
Image has a real wealth of talent lined up there, particularly in artists, but for so much of what was announced today I was just like "Yep, that sounds like an Image book"
>>81531487
Right? Like, I'm probably there for Remender/Opena doing wacky fantasy instead of SF, but...
so much of it felt like "This is precisely the Image book I'd predict from this particular team"
>>81531439
>and there's a crap ton of stuff coming out whenever they come out
FTFY
>>81531487
Yeah none of the new Image stuff announced today sounded THAT good
I looked at a couple of the previews and dismissed them going by art alone
What's Karen Berger doing at Image? I saw people saying she was at the expo
>>81531404
>Cranky, leave the nice people in the "What did you like in the new 52" thread alone and come play with us
....Am I really that distinctive? Whatever, I still think all the Hera-stroking is bullshit.
>>81531541
>What's Karen Berger doing at Image?
Editor for a new book. Some Cyberpunk-esque thing if I recall.
>>81531541
Apparently one team asked her on LinkedIn to edit them and she said yes, which is pretty charming
>>81531568
>Am I really that distinctive?
yes
>>81531487
Yeah some of the artists are great.
>Glitterbomb by Jim Zub and Djibril Morrisette
A Hollywood horror comic about a middle aged actress out to tear down the Hollywood system down in the most gruesome way possible. Promo image
>Afar by Leila del Duca and Kit Seaton
fantasy OGN about a group fleeing a desert lifestyle and re-settling in a metropolis setting.
>Vs by Ivan Brandon and Esad Ribic
a sci-fi series about the shifting demographics and technology of fighting.
>Black Cloud by Ivan Brandon, Greg Hinkle and Matt Wilson
a story that's "Jessica Jones meets Roger Rabbit", set in a world where imagination is literal.
>Winnebago Graveyard by Steve Niles and Alison Sampson
about a family getting stuck in a town of Satanists.
>Horizon, by Juan Gedeon and Brandon Thomas
a sci-fi conspiracy thriller.
>The Hunt by Colin Lorimer
A fantasy series featuring grotesque versions of Irish fairy tale creatures.
>Lake of Fire by Nathan Fairbairn and Matt Smith
a historical fiction about an alien ship crashlanding during the Crusades.
>The Divided States of Hysteria by Howard Chaykin
about a CIA operative who screws up identifying a major attack.
(1/2)
>>81531568
That's basically what being an autist is all about.
>>81531347
The Fix.
Oh, also, checked out Miles' book.
Felicia Hardy's heel turn has taken the stupidest move its had yet.
And that is saying something.
Also, once again, Bendis should stop acting like he knows what teenagers are like. And Goldballs joins the supporting cast and Ganke is nuts about him, which... I can actually buy because he's a heavyset dude and you don't get a lot of heroes like that? But it still comes off like Bendis kissing his own ass.
>>81531442
I really wanted to like BP and The Fix and I wasn't super enthused about either.
BP is just going to be like, a decent comic unless it really spirals into something incredible unexpectedly. Serviceable first issue and - that's it.
The Fix is good! Like, objectively, I can look at it and see it's good. But coming off Superior Foes it is too like Superior Foes for me to really get behind.
I liked Midnighter a hell of a lot today. There's a set-up I think I see happening that I really hope doesn't happen though. Ewing continues to just be the guy who you need to give Bendis' role/job/prestige to, goddamn.
Black Widow and Neal Adams' Superman continue to be solid with all the problems you would expect. Same goes for Mark Millar's new SF thing, actually.
Vision continues to be really good.
>>81531581
hah, that's pretty awesome
>>81531589
>Prima by Jan Van Meter and Rick Burchett
about an resistance group/ballet troupe that continues operating post-WWII.
>Rockstar by Joe Harris and Megan Hutchinson
which is a "rock-n-roll" thriller set in a fantasy backdrop.
>Romulus by Bryan Edward Hill and Nelson Blake II
about a secret society responsible for all evil in the world.
>Surgeon X by Sara Kenney and John Watkins, and edited by Karen Berger (!!!)
about a subversive surgeon operating in a world on the brink of medical collapse.
>Kill or Be Killed by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips
which is a "soap opera about murder".
>The Black Monday Murders by Jonathan Hickman and Tomm Coker
about a financial collapse triggered to attain power. Magic is also involved.
>Moonshine by Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso
a story about gangsters and werewolves.
>Motor Crush by Cameron Stewart, Brenden Fletcher and Babs Tarr
sci-fi series about illegal bike races.
>Isola by Brenden Fletcher and Karl Kerschl
which is a fantasy story about two women searching for an island.
Well screw y'all, I'm pretty hype for Remender/Opeña, Azz/Risso, Berger and Kerschl.
>>81531568
Yes, you really are.
>>81531631
why is it bad? Poor Black Cat...
>>81531636
I saw a Russofriend bitching about BW's Google Translate level stuff. Come the fuck on, people, there's Twitter, etc.--ask someone to render a few phrases and send them a comp.
>>81531700
"Hey there's a new spider-man in town. I'm mad about that. I don't know shit all about him otherwise. Go kill him, for like a million dollars, I guess."
And yeah, it's 2016, it shouldn't be this fucking hard to just go "hey do I got any fans who speak some russian and wanna do me a solid?"
>>81531700
Well. Silk was the only place Felicia wasn't being shit on.
>>81531700
>>81531685
I like Remender's indie stuff a lot but I hope he tries out some tonal variation because it's all pretty fucking grim
>>81531518
They obviously have such an attractive model for creators and like this 'Creators for Creators' grant, that's going to be a prestigious thing. I can't help but see them continue to pull ahead and get some great teams but I do want to see more weird, grand conceptual stuff like 8house from them.
I think a lot of dudes and/or ladies get their complete free reign at Image and think you know - okay! it's a school, or a motorcycle club or a business or whatever! But there's a conspiracy! And it's actually sci-fi/supernatural! I play TTRPGs a bunch and I use random gen a bunch for that: I could easy make a random generator for Image at this point.
That said, talent is still attractive. I'm on board for Surgeon X because of the editor (I also hope it might be like some of the more EXTREME Japanese medical drama stuff - I think I could probably do some self-analysis on how familiarity with manga cuts some of Image's appeal for me).
>>81531526
True, true.
>>81531541
Yeah there's surprisingly little I'm interested in, going by teams and story concepts.
Azz/Risso and Remender/Opena I'm there for, but ehh...
But I'm all for Fletcher having two image books. THe less DC stuff he has, the better.
>>81531764
Bendis has exactly two settings for women, waifu and crazy bitch. I'm guessing something about BC makes him really mad.
>>81531814
Oh, add growing up with 2000AD to that. Like that >>81531685 Azz/Risso thing, I've seen like a half dozen different variations of that shit in 2000AD. Probably none of them will be as good, but!
>>81531814
>familiarity with manga cuts some of Image's appeal for me).
ding ding ding
I read that Squad issue and it was alright, interesting last couple of pages. Then I read Black Panther and was blown away and haven't read anything else.
What's good from Image? I liked the look of the Remender/Opena team, team Batgirls new thing, the Azz/Risso thing, and Prince of Cats reprint!!!
>>81531868
If there's still one niche manga doesn't cover well, it's ultraviolence plus actual mature adult women characters.
Unless there's some kickass josei action crossover I don't know about, anyway.
>>81531588
>>81531605
>>81531700
Well that's just kind of sad.
>>81531589
>>The Hunt by Colin Lorimer
>A fantasy series featuring grotesque versions of Irish fairy tale creatures.
Non-Disnefied fair folk? Bout time someone remembered that faeries are awful little bastards.
>>Black Cloud by Ivan Brandon, Greg Hinkle and Matt Wilson
>a story that's "Jessica Jones meets Roger Rabbit", set in a world where imagination is literal.
Wat.
>>81531814
Yeah, like, medical comics are fresh territory for a lot of western print, but like, we got Monster, we got Black Jack, we got Ray...
It always pissed me off when comic pros said "manga was all the same", just, dude, have you ever even looked?
>>81531868
Oh hey, long thread here and worth exploring the nooks and crannies, but interesting responses and I think the Thing Fan here is pretty dead on:
https://twitter.com/EvrLvnBluIdThng/status/717439533193764864
Amusant bit:
>Nick Spencer @nickspencer Apr 5 things happen, but the pull back to foundation is always strong and usually the right choice
(this is in part justifying his Maria Hill)
>>81531347
Hardcore Station is now my official name for a headcanon DC AU which revolves entirely around porn.
Anyone want to help me out with that feel free to ITT. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are obviously really into ethical, intelligent and meaningful pornography. I guess it helped Batman overcome his intimacy issues? Wonder Woman is a subject of controversy from breaking out of the Amazon's traditional g/g market.
>>81531944
Dorohedoro hits a lot of this for me, unless you require a 24/7 super somber tone for your maturity.
>>81531944
There's Akumetsu but you'll probably be pretty lost if you don't know much about Jap politics.
>>81531993
That's actually insane coming from the guy who wrote Foes. I sometimes wonder about Spencer's doublethink abilities. But he did want to go into politics originally...
>>81531824
Some of these sound okay but nothing really mind blowing? I'm sure there'll be some good stuff but like... "Moonshiners, with WEREWOLVES!" "Hollywood conspiracy, with VAMPIRES!" "Noir, but they're CARTOONS!" "The world is secretly run by BANKERS!" none of these sound "oh yeah I'll try the #1" interesting, they are "oh yeah I'll try the first trade for 5 bucks" interesting at best
and the Remender/Opena one disappoints personally because the art is good but the character designs are really meh
I hate to sound so down on these but they just seem like standard Image fare
>>81531993
christ, I want this Comet to DIAF
>>81531944
Apparently the new Hiroaki Samura book, Die Wergelder (Blood Prices), is totally that
>>81531814
>But there's a conspiracy! And it's actually sci-fi/supernatural!
Vertigo tends to fall into that trap a lot. Lots of their books end up being "normally mundane thing BUT WITH A SUPERNATURAL TWIST". Its why Sheriff of Babylon feels refreshing.
>>81531938
Oh also that Fletcher/Kesel and the new Bru/Phillips
>>81531271
idk what it is in the writing but I enjoyed yesterday's storytime almost as much as REBELS.
>>81531944
What is Blade of the Immortal and Die Wergelder?
>>81532052
all I want from Image is Hero Denied, motherfuckers
>>81532047
It's getting to be like you could do a Platonic Image Book Pitch like that Platonic Vertigo one in a thread a while ago
>>81531868
>Abandon the false hope that burns within, female!
Okay, this is a somewhat common thing with cosmic villains, referring to chicks as "female". She's got a name, retard. Is this supposed to imply that these guys are sexist? Because if so, that's a really fucking lazy means of "characterization".
>>81531993
That dude can be super dense and wicked pedantic every time I've seen him on twitter but he's got the number here.
Nick Spencer's twitter quality remains generally inverted from his comic quality.
>>81532017
Shit, I already read Doro. It's not really what I'm thinking of, tho, because everyone in that comic is fuckballs insane.
But god, do I love that Q just does her thing on that series.
>>81532093
I think Starlin is hit or miss. Conceptually I find nothing wrong with him, but his execution is dull and I want to scream at it for being dull when it doesn't need to be.
But I can also see a Neal Adams' sort of appeal in Starlin's own personal style of writing.
>>81532055
Didn't Vertigo just start a mini that's literally "Moonshiners but with something supernatural!" ? I was kind of thrown off by the Azz/Risso thing because of that
>>81531568
It helps when there's only one of you. As opposed to when we were reading New Thunderbolts, and there turned out to be two salty Genis-fans.
>>81532110
I'd say not really sexism specifically but that they think in a hyperbiologic sense and lack humanity (or whatever) in general. I think
Still kind of lazy though
>>81532110
The one recent case of this I really liked was in OM9, where the Viceroy finally cracks and calls Kalista "you native whore", because that's the shit men like him actually think and let slip when the fire is on their feet
>>81532118
It's mostly that it's a really, really funny comment in light of his bitching about Rebirth being a retrench. "I can do it well, THEY do it badly"
>>81532039
>>81532052
>>81532095
Oh baby. I'm glad I asked, now I've got some shit to read.
>>81531631
>Oh, also, checked out Miles' book.
>Felicia Hardy's heel turn has taken the stupidest move its had yet.
Who's dick do I have to suck for other Marvel writers to remember Miguel O'Hara is still around and calling himself Spider-Man?
>>81532156
Dark and Bloody?
>>81531589
>Glitterbomb by Jim Zub and Djibril Morrisette
>A Hollywood horror comic about a middle aged actress out to tear down the Hollywood system down in the most gruesome way possible. Promo image
I'm probably in the relative minority of comics fans who would be more enthused by this if it was pitched as "Ultraviolence and All About Eve'
>>81531993
>which actually isn't that different from real life, where personal change is often overstated
>I think the hardest thing in comics is watching these characters stay young while none of us do
>things happen, but the pull back to foundation is always strong and usually the right choice
he is basically justifying ignoring previous character development or just not bothering to develop characters at all since people don't change that much irl anyway! nick please
>>81532189
It's so weird how wormy Spencer gets online. He's not the aggressive shittiness of Slott, he's not the outright bigotry of Byrne, he's not the dickhead of Brevoort, but if there's something he can be hypocritical about in a super passive-aggressive way, he'll find it.
I missed that Azz/Risso thing had werewolves and that Makes me less excited
>>81532148
Starlin doesn't let his imagination rage on like Adams does, that's what holds him back and keeps him tedious.
>>81532208
I'm really behind on BOTI because I collect trades on it and try to get them cheap, sigh; got 1-17
>>81532243
I can imagine--okay, not to be stereotypical, but, you know, I know all these gay guys who really are incredibly into vintage film/Barbara Stanwyck/Joan Crawford? I want a book about this from someone steeped in that.
>>81532208
Fair warning: neither of the Hiroaki books treat any of their characters, including their female characters, particularly well.
Potentially also some of Atsushi Kaneko's stuff fits for you, maybe.
>>81532302
paneling is nice, this page
>>81532281
The bulk of the thread, and something I agree with, is that Johnny Storm gets nuked back to an even more regressive ground zero on a regular basis and it's annoying.
>>81532240
yeah, that one
also that "Jessica Jones meets Roger Rabbit" pitch reminded me how much I dislike selling something to me by comparing it to other pop culture things. WHAT aspects of Jessica Jones are in this book? It's light scifi detective stuff, or there's complex female characters? WHAT makes it comparable to Roger Rabbit?
Dogfucker did this the other day by saying GLs was "Lethal Weapon in space". I don't know what the fuck that means!
>>81532302
>but, you know, I know all these gay guys who really are incredibly into vintage film/Barbara Stanwyck/Joan Crawford? I want a book about this from someone steeped in that.
?
>>81532420
It means Murtaugh is getting a big green gun.
>>81532420
Lethal Weapon? Buddy comedy of contrasting roles.
>>81532189
>It's mostly that it's a really, really funny comment in light of his bitching about Rebirth being a retrench. "I can do it well, THEY do it badly"
that's a fair point
"The pull back to foundation is always strong and usually the right choice. Unless DC is doing it, then they're wrong for not pushing D listers that weren't selling even harder"
>>81532461
huh, haven't read it, but thanks for the rec
>>81532494
I am 100% running a betting pool on the continued life of SamCap vs. SteveCap, too.
>>81532494
When it comes down to it I think Spencer is just kinda tribal in outlook and DC is not his tribe.
>>81532527
The only way he's keeping Sam alive is if he turns it into basically one half of a doubleshipping book.
>>81532538
he did, in fairness, apparently have an utterly miserable DC experience
I'm finding the Weird to kind of grow on me, despite his Donut Steel qualities
>>81531993
>It's going to take a Superman or the Green Lantern Corps to bring him down.
The autist in me wants to see all the power blocs of the DC universe accounted along this scale.
>>81532590
Little does he know that the companies basically take turns in being completely fucking horrible messes.
>>81532337
Thanks. I have an open mind, I got plenty of time for niche shit relevant to my interests.
>>81532590
I think that's a stunted blade of grass in a completely mown lawn appeal, storyteller.
>>81532420
>GLs was "Lethal Weapon in space"
That comparison doesn't even make sense. The Green Lantern Corps hasn't acted like cops in years.
Also, "like Game of Thrones" is a term that needs to fucking die. That doesn't even mean anything anymore.
>>81532552
which would ALSO be funny considering his "DC is going to kill the market double-shipping, Marvel uses it to support niche books" stance
why can't Al Ewing be the foundation of the Marvel Universe for a while
>>81532634
Yeah but no horror stories to the level of stuff from the post nu52 era dc
>>81532527
>I am 100% running a betting pool on the continued life of SamCap vs. SteveCap, too.
I could see SamCap surviving another relaunch for 5-10 more issues
I do wonder if they'll just leave him as Cap #2 indeterminately or if he'll be back as Falcon sooner or later
>>81532538
he kinda comes off that way, although to be fair I believe he had a really shitty editorial experience at DC
>>81532552
So many of my fave niche characters are Cap associates. I would love a Cap Corps book except it would probably be dross under current Marvel.
>>81532671
I'd believe it if it was Mark Millar from 2003 or so. Just heads getting cut off and sexual assault that he tells us is actually deep and meaningful.
>>81532678
>why can't Al Ewing be the foundation of the Marvel Universe for a while
I need to know who I have to kill or sell my soul to for this to happen. He's just, he's so the right guy for it.
>>81532678
As much as I understand Ewing loves being comics as fuck, I'm worried about him burning out. I need him to be the Johns of Marvel for like, 15 years, and bring the 00s renaissance back.
>>81532671
>That comparison doesn't even make sense. The Green Lantern Corps hasn't acted like cops in years.
supposedly they are going back to that? I'll believe it when I see it tho
>>81532678
I fear for when Al Ewing becomes an architect - they've only got, what, Bendis left? - and then he has to put up with all of Alonso's horrible ideas and actually make them happen.
Like he's good, but eventually he is going to have to be the one to be in charge of a very stupid event.
>>81532552
Or if not that, then just constant crossovers like Superman and Action have.As a Supes fan I'm pretty jelly how Batman has a main flagship book and tie ins seem to be their own thing or side stories as opposed to having to read one issue for part 1, another for part 2, etc.
>>81532678
>>81532703
I was thinking some time about running some Gru Cap, because I haven't read it
I'm surprised nobody talked about the JL Darkseid Special whereGrail ties Steve Trevor up and then mouth rapes him
And also other stuff but mostly that
>>81532671
>Also, "like Game of Thrones" is a term that needs to fucking die. That doesn't even mean anything anymore.
>tfw I have ideas for a historical low fantasy series dealing with political intrigue but I'd have to deal with comparisons to ASoIaF
>>81532783
I can't imagine dealing with Axel "Gay is literally not a word in my vocabulary" Alonso, but an Ewing event would be boss.
He works nicely at scale, and I'd love a big stupid event that isn't trying to be anything or do anything, and just uses old toys and wacky science to make something happen.
>>81532843
>Throneworld is the capital planet of a vast royalist empire under the Crown Imperia, ruled by the superhero Starman
>looks like one of those German folly castles atop a hill
I'm ready to kill.
>>81532703
Is Eli fucking back yet? Is Josiah X doing anything? Those two should be doing something.
>>81532912
I love folly castles!
>>81532774
It'd be glorious if they saw that the Yellows were basically doing their jobs while they were being pigeonholed into fighting yet another uber-powerful giant dude, and decided to actually go out and patrol the fucking universe again.
Seriously though, why is it that whenever the universe is threatened, it's almost always by a giant dude?
>Darkseid
>Anti-Monitor
>Superboy Prime(for like five minutes, but still)
>Mr. Mind(is a dude, and was rather large at the time)
>Volthoom
>Relic
>The Empty Hand
Why is it always giant dudes?
>>81532898
>but an Ewing event would be boss.
You say that now.
>>81532917
IDK. Jack is still in comics limbo, probably still hating cosmic shit. Good place for a cosmic character to be right now, limbo.
>>81532950
wow, Miles' grandmama is...something else. would have been more effective with less is more
also I think even teenies still know what LSD is
>>81532898
>an Ewing event would be boss.
Monkey paw, anon
You know they'll force some stupid shit on him
>>81532898
I think Ewing would handle an event - on his own - fantastically.
I think Ewing having to wrangle around Alonso, Brevoort, and the rest of the crew, is going to be something else.
Although oh my god I'd love to see the pissy look on Bendis' face when Ewing tells him "no, that doesn't make any sense for the characters" when he throws ideas out for Ewing's event.
No OOC allowed, motherfuckers.
>>81532917
Eli is done, man. I don't know what's up but they confirmed retirement of that character on-panel and he hasn't even been mentioned since.
I could write Eli for miles. So many ways to develop that character and hit Cap and his own family's legacy.
Big soft spot for a few other Cap characters too.
>>81532875
I only read the preview, it made me too upset about qt moe Power Ring
>>81532985
Heeey, did Black Cat do something to Aunt May somewhere in Slott ASM?
>>81532875
Bymouth rapeyou mean? I am not reading any of the Darkseid stuff.
>>81533001
Last I heard Gillen wanted to use him but Eli was tied up in some big important thing - that never happened.
I'm curious what it was, but I suspect it had something to do with Arena, which is hilarious in how hard Marvel initially pushed it, then buried any relevance it could've possibly had just as quickly.
>>81532875
I have no idea what the hell that was even supposed to be. Although, say what you will about Grail, considering she called Steve "delicious", she's got taste at least.
>>81532895
Oh, anon, don't even worry about it. Originality is a filthy, cancerous lie. Just do your story, and nobody will actually care as long as it's good.
>>81532957
>It'd be glorious if they saw that the Yellows were basically doing their jobs while they were being pigeonholed into fighting yet another uber-powerful giant dude, and decided to actually go out and patrol the fucking universe again.
I think that's actually the premise of the first arc for HJGLC! The GLC comes back and Sinestro's starting doing their jobs and also doing it BETTER
nigga parked Warworld where Oa used to be!
>>81532950
Yeah but couldn't fantastic space royalty be more, uh, not that? More unsual?
>>81533046
>Hawkman is SO done with this shit
>got to feel those pecs one more time
>>81533123
Amish?
>>81532957
>Why is it always giant dudes?
I dunno, maybe Space Gigantism is a thing like island gigantism
>>81533140
>you will never feel those pecs
;_;
>>81533065
I don't know whether to take Gillen's word on that or not. Thank God, at least, he avoided Arena.
>>81533087
Steve Trevor was built for femdom.
>>81533140
>OH TEARS OF JOY, THE TITS ARE SAFE
>>81533163
Anon, I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. How do you see this working?
>>81533180
why even live
>>81533185
Speaking of any WW Earth 1 opinions/good reviews?
>>81533241
planets are like, their own islands in space, man
>>81533157
Like Throneworld, purely by virtue of nestling in the heart of a two dozen world empire, is allowed to just be this idyllic pastoral backwater where everyone lives with high medieval technology and crafts everything by hand in a weird European revivalism?
I'd be okay with that.
>>81533281
It's one of those things where you probably want to form your own opinions on, first.
>>81533259
>>81533281
I've only glanced at a few reviews but I'm guessing the origin story Morrison went with has ruffled a few feathers
>>81533291
So island gigantism is gigantism relative to non-island species. What's the converse of your space gigantism hypothesis?
>>81533324
what can I say, I'm here for the fandom meltdowns
>>81533324
I'm still miffed he thinks there's something wrong with the original origin.
>>81533046
>>81533140
So far, the only entertaining things in this book are Alanna being the voice of reason, and Hawkman having to put up with bullshit.
>>81533106
Nice. If anyone needs the "meat and potatoes" treatment, it's the GLC for sure. Well, Diana too, but she's already got Rucka. Someone make these green fucks into cops again!
>>81533281
some feathers have been ruffled by it
both sides being upset by it is something I look forward to
>>81533355
I don't know anon, I'm not a biologist :(
But there has to be SOME explanation for all the giant dudes, right?
>>81532106
>Platonic Vertigo Pitch
?
>>81533281
The consensus around here seems to be that its a serviceable story with delicious art, if nothing else.
>>81533428
Space Jesus has a giant fetish?
>>81533383
I'm kind of amazed at how little infrastructure has been laid out on the GLs being space cops, given they've been written as space cops for so long.
Plenty of stuff on the Guardians and Oa, not a lot else.
>>81533383
apparently sucking at being space cops for 30 issues and getting replaced has made them want to be cops again!
> Venditti: Correct! We open #1 with Sinestro parking Warworld at Sector 0, which is the location of the Green Lantern headquarters, where it’s always been. But with the Green Lantern Corps absent, Sinestro is going to fill that void and take control of the universe. When we open our story, he’s taken over as the police force in the universe and never even had to fire a shot, and this is the story of what happens next. How does Hal reunite with the Corps? How the they come and unseat this uber-powerful Corps of Yellow Lanterns, and restore themselves as the police force of the universe.
>>81533356
>>81533428
Given the New Gods have at times been supposed to be truly gigantic in scale, like continent/planet-sized, we could run with something like proximity to Source radiation naturally increases the size of a species over time.
>>81533444
So best Earth One so far!
>>81533393
Well that's nice
>>81533498
welp :(
>>81533483
where is L.E.G.I.O.N., I ask you, where is mai husbando Vril
>>81533483
It's like when your ex gets a better version of you and you get all pissy. Except their ex is the universe.
It's basically the plot of Midnighter with less gay sex and possibly less aliens.
>>81533369
A lot of people seem to think there's something wrong with the original origin. I will never understand why it's supposedly "creepy" that she's made of clay. Haven't these people ever heard of a golem?
Hell, I kinda dig the common interpretation of her being Amazon Jesus.
>>81533436
As in 'platonic ideal'.
>>81533483
Why would you want the GLs to come back as the police force of the universe? We just saw the Yellows forming up an A-Team and cleaning house like a boss.
>>81533547
>It's basically the plot of Midnighter with less gay sex
I've been in /co/ too long to believe that, between Johns' Hal and Sinestro.
>>81532985
>also I think even teenies still know what LSD is
Shit yeah, and with the internet even sheltered kids can know all kinds of weird fucked up shit. Does Bendis think this through?
>>81533530
>where is L.E.G.I.O.N., I ask you, where is mai husbando Vril
they missed a big opportunity by not bringing back LEGION when the GLC disappeared, I tell you
>>81533547
>It's like when your ex gets a better version of you and you get all pissy. Except their ex is the universe.
a lot of Venditti's GL was based on the premise "the GLs may or may not be doing more harm than good, and now everyone kind of hates them" and then Sinestro swooped in and cleanly replaced them
>possibly less aliens
I hate that this is probably true
>>81533570
The golem comparison is why people don't like it.
>>81533672
I mean, shit, there's more Durlan DNA in one issue of Mindy than the entire GLC.
>>81533632
that's actually a good question, I wanna see what the justification for that is going to be other than "they're evil, they can't be the universe's space cops!"
I bet most of it is that the GLs just want to keep their jobs. You think they want to go back to being losers on their home planets? I don't think so!
>>81533530
>where is L.E.G.I.O.N., I ask you, where is mai husbando Vril
I'm really fucking shocked that Vril didn't swoop in to take over the GLs job before the Yellows. That was even kind of the original idea behind L.E.G.I.O.N, even. Does he even exist in the Nu52 yet?
>>81533738
Is "they're evil" not enough justification?
>>81533570
In fairy tales people get babies from flowers and giant peaches, why is getting a baby from clay that much weirder?
>>81533738
>Hal ends up working in a fast food joint
>Dies in a freak hamburger accident
>>81533772
no. what have they done that's evil LATELY? they just showed up and saved Earth's ass! Even Superman was like "Sinestro you're so great let me blow you"
I mean Black Adam had a point that it was probably Sinestro's fault they had to save the earth to begin with but that's why he got a shiny yellow ring to keep his mouth shut
>>81533720
did they go all war torn and isolationist between the present and the future? i thought it was always like that
>>81533570
I was actually kinda weirded out by Perez adding the "souls of murdered women in prehistory" thing to it
>>81533772
How can such a legitimately good father be evil? I'm not even joking, nothing that came out of his dick is dead, that's a big accomplishment.
Speaking of Wonder Woman Earth One
>N: This story finishes pretty open ended…I have to ask, will there be more of this version of Wonder Woman from you at any point?
>GM: I’ve already started it actually, I’m already 25 pages into it. And Yanick is up for drawing again. We are going to do three volumes of this, we’ve got a whole story planned. The first one is really just getting the cards on the table for me, and the second one is really like the Marston stuff; it’s got an amazing opening that’ll probably freak people out. It’s much more like Marston, it really goes back to that original place.
Nice to hear Diana possibly getting more than one EO OGN
>>81533678
Why? The original golem is a protector, a empowered by truth. Why is it "creepy" when Diana's the same way?Is it because she has boobs?
>>81533785
>In fairy tales people get babies from flowers
I'll say straight up I'm very surprised nobody's spun Diana into that origin. Hell of a lot more yonic appeal.
>>81533530
>>81533749
Because even though Sinestro isn't a big name, he still has more selling power.
>>81533827
Literally everyone involved was willing to take turns on Sinestro's dick. I love it.
>>81533867
Everyone is straight up amazed at the daring haute couture on display here.
>>81533867
>>81533844
You can still be a dick to the universe in general and love your kids.
>>81533859
Because if you view her as a golem, she's a creature, an object, instead of a person.
>>81533921
>>81533857
I hope it takes less than 4 years to get it out.
>>81533927
Dickery does not evil make. Sinestro did nothing wrong.
>>81533824
if Hal lost his ring again and had to go back to Earth he would be homeless and jobless again
>>81533927
It's so commonly the opposite way around with superheroes though. Give Sinestro some credit.
>>81533749
>Does he even exist in the Nu52 yet?
Not really but it's easy to retcon in. New 52 Brainiac has been attempting to recreate his family that was killed or something. You just have to say Vril is an attempt to recreate that child he lost but was thrown aside for being imperfect.
>>81533945
>>81533843
>I was actually kinda weirded out by Perez adding the "souls of murdered women in prehistory" thing to it
See, I can actually understand that. I personally don't mind it, but I can see where you're coming from. It is perhaps a little much, especially the bit where Diana is made from the soul of Hippolyta's unborn child.
>>81533857
>it’s got an amazing opening that’ll probably freak people out
Grant, I will fucking slap you.
>>81533867
I realize this is a weird time to ask, but why does King Starman have a vaudeville cane? Is he going to yank someone offstage?
>>81533964
I'm not saying we need a story about this, but it is absolutely story fodder and would definitely involve him living with a manand being a gay beard for tax reasons
>>81533857
I guess Grant "I'm done with superheroes after Wonder Woman: Earth One" Morrison isn't a man of his word then.
>>81533938
That sounds totally batshit insane, anon.
>>81533964
I think you and me have different levels of wanting this story.I want it a lot.
>>81533843
>adding the "souls of murdered women in prehistory" thing to it
>>81534017
The dude is doing a Batman OGN and Multiversity Too OGNs so why would he say he's done
>>81534017
He's got like 2 Flash things planned and another Batman one. maybe he just meant ongoings
>>81533961
I know, I'm just saying that someone could be a loving father and an asshole to everyone else.
>>81534016
10/10 would read twice
>>81534018
>I think you and me have different levels of wanting this story.I want it a lot.
I actually do want a story that takes it seriously and doesn't just gloss over it a little like all the times that's happened to him before
>>81534002
It's a shepherd's crook, I think
we should read pre-Jack Knight Starman some time
>>81534052
he's not really a loving father either, he's an asshole to Soranik too
I mean, the main reason she's alive is her mom hid her from Sinestro for years, with some complete strangers
>>81534016
>All the Earth GLs lose their positions
>Hal and Guy have to get fake married to hold onto an apartment
>>81534018
How many superheroes can you think of that weren't born like a normal person, and don't have "am I really human?" as a major theme of their characters?
>>81534120
I've never seen a single page of it.
>tfw there's no such thing as post-Jack Starman because nobody gives a fuck about Best Talokianwithout a vag
>>81534145
Sadly Lyrl Dox demonstrates that such refined parenting techniques do not always work
>>81534017
I don't think he said he was done with anything but monthlies, to be fair
>>81534120
I realize that's probably what it's supposed to evoke, but the way it's drawn makes me think he's going to burst out singing Ragtime Gal.
>>81534120
>>81534163
I think there's a bunch, especially if you count transformed/born again heroes like POD.
>>81533938
I call bullshit on that. There's countless stories of artificial lifeforms, and how they ultimately count as people. Hell, we here just recently read Ragman, where THE golem was the most interesting character.
Sounds to me like idiots are just looking for an excuse to talk shit.
>>81534145
He takes action to make sure she doesn't die. Most fuckers just shrug and let it happen. Even fucking Alan let his kid get murdered.
>>81534235
>>81534148
>they get fake married for tax breaks
>they fake adopt a fake child for tax breaks
>they fake grow old and married together for tax breaks
>they are fake buried next to each other because the double spouse plot was cheaper
>>81534258
>Even fucking Alan let his kid get murdered.
He wasn't there, you make it sound like he literally watched her get murdered then returned to reading the newspaper.
>>81534265
we might be late/off tomorrow, gotta see, there's something in the evening I might need to go to
>>81534328
This is my favourite joke.
>>81534341
If it were Todd, that is exactly what he would do.
>>81534345
>>81534341
Nah. We're not talking about Todd here.
>>81534345
TY for the forewarning, OP. How are you anyway?
>>81533843
>I was actually kinda weirded out by Perez adding the "souls of murdered women in prehistory" thing to it
Any particular reason or just the idea that they had to "earn" their place in paradise like that?
>>81534251
But the question is their whole story. Vision is full of robot angst, clones are full of clone angst, they all desperately want to be a real boy.
>>81534394
didn't get much done today, went to the gym and was all "I'll do more things!" and then took a nap
Tonight we see if the doggie diaper helps the old man out some, bless his heart.
>>81534398
It was more like "These women were taken before their time, let's give them another chance at life" deal.
>>81534371
no, if it was Todd he'd have killed him himself and THEN gone back to reading the paper
>>81533964
Speaking of ringbearers and jobs, I had an idea for Carol. If you'll indulge me for a moment...
After finally being able to take a break from all the Star Sapphire bullshit, she goes home to run her company and make some damn airplanes. However, she soon realizes that Earth's primitive technology means there's no substantial space industry. So, having access to such science, Carol decides to use her SS resources to build a commercial spacecraft, thereby cornering the market.
... I just want Carol to be a superpowered businesswoman, dammit.
>>81534436
>>81534460
I like Perez Wondy a lot, but his Olympians are just so...not Greek gods.
>>81534436
>A clever trick or scientific improvisation was all it took.
Queue barely concealed disgust on the face of Hawkman, who has never known anything but glorious war.
>>81534555
oh just tie him up and stick him into it
>>81534541
I like the cut of your jib anon, I want ruthless businesswoman Carol
>>81534541
Holy shit, you're right. Why hasn't Carol gotten fuckballs turbo-rich building spaceships yet?
>>81534555
Not like superpowered trashy reality show stars?
>>81534398
That more or less, like why just these X amount of women getting in, stopping at the arbitrary point in time of the moment. I think I also like the society having a blank slate as a starting point and no real like origin?
>>81534555
i'm almost done with the first trade and haven't thought from that perspective, they are kinda too nice.
i liked Trevor looking older and being attacked by a skeleton to crash on the island
>>81534541
Sounds alright, but who is she fucking to get the ring power to build those planes?
So Arrow is officially dead now, I guess.
>>81534639
You tell me, Vendy, you could write in a giant jizzing space penis if you wanted.
>>81534651
They killed Laurel?
>>81534626
>i liked Trevor looking older
I didn't, it was an obvious attempt to get rid of him as a love interest and then they never bothered to get her another one.
>>81534618
>>81534626
They are WAY too nice. There's not enough of the darker aspects in them, or it's shunted completely off onto Ares.
>>81534639
Can't she just masturbate a lot? I mean, self love is still love
>>81534651
Falso, she'll just play another Earth's JSA Canary, no big deal
>>81534706
you know which panel must be cropped, anons
>>81534693
Yeah. The dream is over.
>>81534639
She's powering the ring with her love of transportation technology and money.
>>81534607
I DON'T KNOW. Shitty character writing is the only plausible explanation.
>>81534704
well i also hate steve trevor
well not hate because you don't hate vanilla ice cream, it's just there. taking up space
>>81534753
>>81534802
steve's porn potential is literally zero
he's worthless
>>81534690
There is legit a fictional sci-fi universe where the center of the universe is a giant jizzing space penis.
>>81534833
>steve's porn potential is literally zero
????
>>81534823
>>81534833
>steve's porn potential is literally zero
but what of the loving domination by Wondy anon
>>81534706
Thanagar is so fucking on-point with their branding. When will Hawkman embrace his calling as a marketing consultant?
>>81534872
nobody is inspired to make porn involving him
that is the mark of a shit character
>>81534802
oh shit, anon, I think you reminded me there's uneaten gelato in the freezer
>>81534903
now I'm thinking about all the Wonder Woman merch and stuff from the Perez run, only now with an ultra-violent Hawkbent
>>81534833
>steve's porn potential is literally zero
My fanfic where Diana doms Steve and Hal at the same time says otherwise
>>81534928
I haven't seen any Vril porn, and he's great.
>>81534958
Post it, fucker, or it doesn't exist.
>>81534992
well it doesn't exist YET, I'm still writing itany day now
>>81534833
Uh, femdom, anon
We should all be so lucky to be lovingly dommed by Diana
>>81534938
>we put the symbol up front with the guns, so when you blast them, the last thing they see is the mark of Thanagar
>apply this principle to everything you create
>>81534983
Vril was already canon-raped, isn't that good enough for you? Sicko.
>>81534983
Mhmm, Vril has a LOT of porn potential though.
>>81535019
doesn't exist, doesn't matter
i have literally never seen someone illustrate steve's dong
>>81535044
Never enough.
>>81534938
DAT HAWKFACE
