Vision #6
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>>81510247
Please make sure the comic you will storytime next belongs to a crossover.
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>>81510247
I am a jew
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>>81510306
uncanny avengers?
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>>81510334
The first signs of domestic abuse
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>>81510387
Jesus christ this is horrifying and yet so beautiful that I can't stop reading.
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>>81510387
A good husband
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>>81510399
Every issue you have to see how it gets worse.
>>81510440
>He will kill you and your family
>which is why I made sure to include the kids in this team
>especially ms marvel whose real identity Vision already knows
>>81510470
the end
>>81510267
>Martha
triggered, hypercrisis etc.
>>81510326
>uncanny avengers?
Being storytimed by someone else
>>81510470
So two big mysteries
1: Still don't get how Vision gets to where he is now to going full Ultron
2: While I admit that he could probably beat most of the people on this page, especially one-on-one, not really sure what he's supposed to be able to do against the likes of Blue Marvel and Monica Rambeau.
>>81510470
>storm
>beast
>in the same room
>>81510521
Beast is on the upper level so he can look down on her
>>81510470
>Sending the Inhumans again vision and not taking Karnak
>>81510326
Who else was expecting one dog's worth of life energy to be enough to get Grim Reaper to resurrect again?
>>81510387
Feel like he should have told Virginia beforehand that the Grim Reaper despite having a name, counts about as much as a Hand Ninja when it comes to staying dead. Like wasn't it only a couple years ago Rogue killed him on national television?
>>81510470
Wait, so we're caught up now? Didn't a bunch of the ominous narration earlier claim that Viv or Vin would soon die?
>>81510394
Well, this is getting interesting. And fucking creepy.
>>81510617
6 chapters left anon, plenty of time to die
>>81510617
This glorious trainwreck isn't even close to the end
>>81510655
My question is this: does Agatha, who's been narrating the whole time, know what's going to happen next or did she simply see only the events that she just explained to the Avengers (the first six issues).
>>81510738
She know all the events that are about to happen, but since she chose to alert everyone the future will change
>>81510822
So she's not exaggerating or predicting what might happen? She's saying he'll literally kill all their families and raze the world because she saw it?
>>81510470
Perhaps I'm missing something, but why is Vision evil again?
Lying about wife self defense? Most of the people in the room have killed for less.
Didn't the first issue say that in this issue, the Visions would burn their neighbor's house down?
Every issue of Vision makes me tense up and feel like there's a ticking, emotional time bomb just waiting to happen.
It's like that slow ascent at the beginning of a roller coaster, where the anxiety lies in knowing the upcoming, tumultuous ride ahead.
I love it.
This book is so good
>>81510470
Seems a bit overkill to have all these heroes be involved. Just the ANAD Avengers would have been enough.
>>81510976
The thing is, Vision is an AI, so the slippery slope is real.
While "humans" have morals, Vision has guidelines, and if those guidelines evolve to include "Delete everything that may harm Vision_Family.zip", he will stand by these.
>>81510247
It will be really hard to see Vision on other heroes team again after this.
>>81510470
Why did they invite Storm and the Inhumans? They don't have any involvement with Vision.
>>81511507
>It will be really hard to see Vision written horribly again after this.
ftfy
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>>81511541
Probably? The editorial probably said to include them.
>>81511565
>Editorial
>Wanting Storm to show up in a non-X-book
Yeah right
>>81510470
Are they just gonna take Agatha's word over Vision's? Though I don't read Avenger books, does Vision appear in any of those?
>>81510440
This is a pretty touching scene even if you know things will only get worse from the narration in older issues.
Who is the Grim Reaper anyway and how did he come back from the dead?
>>81511703
Yes. It's better to imagine everyone's books in a separate but similar continuity.
Anyway, is anyone going to try the dog name challenge?
>>81511783
The Grim Reaper is Wonder Man's brother. He hates Vision because he has Wonder Man's brain patterns and thus sees him as a cruel mockery.
He keeps coming back from the dead because it's just plain impossible for him to stay dead, someone always resurrects him somehow. I bet he'll be back again by the end of the series.
>>81511783
He's Wonder Man's brother. He's been a long time Avenger villain and has had a beef with the Vision because he was made using his dead brother's brainwaves. He regularly comes back to life through various means throughout history. Last one I remember was him coming back as a horseman of apocalypse
>>81511908
Is Wonder Man dead nowadays?
>>81511933
He let himself be absorbed by Rogue to give her his powers temporarily, unfortunately they weren't able to reverse the process.
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>>81511908
Wait Wonderman is still dead? I just thought everybody forgot about him?
>>81511993
Last time he was alive was during Remender's Uncanny Avengers run. He's essentially stuck inside Rogue in a Carol like scenario.
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>>81510291
lady ass robot. bury corpses deeper or phase them to the earths mantle
>>81510517
>While I admit that he could probably beat most of the people on this page, especially one-on-one, not really sure what he's supposed to be able to do against the likes of Blue Marvel and Monica Rambeau.
The Vision is a fully realized AI. The whole problem with AI's is they are capable of exponential growth and improvement.
He isn't capable of taking on the Avengers all by himself. But if he decides he is going to have to take them on in future he is capable of rapidly improving to the point where he can take them.
>>81510976
>Perhaps I'm missing something, but why is Vision evil again?
He isn't evil. The point is he is normal. He has decided that the lives of his family are more important than the lives of everyone else.
>>81512412
It's absolutely the most human Vision's ever been. Turns out that's not necessarily a good thing.
Also, this is the creepiest comic (including IDW, Image, Darkhorse, and Vertigo) currently being written by a LONGSHOT. It blows my mind.
>>81512412
So the problem seems to be this:
-Vision is super powerful
-His family fucked up hardcore and now he has to protect them
-Him protecting them from the law will lead to clashes with superheroes that escalate into planetary destruction
Now the heroes all know this is going to happen.
So instead of a big stupid fight to destroy vision or his family or some other retarded shit, wouldn't it make more sense to pardon or cover up Vision's family's actions and move them?
Seriously, this seems like a very easy problem to fix if you're willing to bend even slightly to pragmatism.
>>81510470
>Vision covered up his wife self-defense murder of an unkillable supervillain
>HE WILL KILL ALL YOUR FAMILIES AND RAZE THE WORLD
That's a considerable leap in logic there.
>>81512500
To be fair, I think it's killing the teenager that matters not killing Reaper
>>81512488
>wouldn't it make more sense to pardon or cover up Vision's family's actions and move them?
That would be the ideal scenario, placate them and protect them to keep them from murdering others to cover their own asses. But at the same time it's not the kind of behavior superheroes should have.
>>81512488
What would possibly happen if Vision and his family are in the hands of Sunspot's A.I.M?
So Vision is in the wrong because he behaved too much like a human somewhat ironic.
>>81512563
Pottery, some would say.
>>81512488
Or, y'know, just put all of them in the Negative Zone.
It's starting to feel like the Vision will get a memory wipe once they finish killing his family.
>>81512546
what?
>>81512603
Fighting to put them in the negative zone is what would lead to earth getting fucked by Vision
>>81512632
"Hey Vision, you know where you and your family could live a happy life without persecution or fear of hurting anyone? The Negative Zone"
>>81512542
I agree it is not the behaviour that superheroes should have. But from a government level it makes more sense just to turn a blind eye to shit like this. Maybe even send a SHIELD agent to visit them on a regular basis as a personal liaison and let them smooth over any funny business and cover up any minor crimes.
It would be a good way of dealing with the threat and they could also call in favours when needed.
so his family has the same abilitys as him?, which means 4 visions vs all them guys, they coul dtake em all out with the phaseing out ones brain/heart other organs, but ya monica might be a problem, bashear he would also get the phased treatment
>>81510368
Simply mechanics. lighters will work for pretty much ever. it working is not surprising at all. Its simply a question of fuel. or is that what you are saying, it has a magic unlimited fuel supply?
>>81512063
Who HASN'T been inside Rogue?
>>81512658
I like to imagine that's been Maria Hill's go-to solution since she took over
>Director, Hydra is planning to deploy bombs under New York
>So? Just stick it in Negative Zone until they give up.
>What, like, the whole city?
>Yes, hurry it up
>>81512680
True, though everyone else in his family doesn't have the same experience he does.
>>81512686
it hasn't rusted yet and the flint hasn't worn down
>>81512680
Iron Man, Black Panther, Blue Marvel, Spider-Man and Beast can probably make some techno doohickey to fuck with the Visions, and even then, Dr. Strange and Scarlet Witch can still bullshit some magic at them.
>>81510417
Vision has very sinister sense of humor.
What issue does Scarlet Witch come along to screw things up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWMMdX6KYGM
Thread theme.
>>81512563
No. It's because he's behaving too much like a hypocritical coward.
>>81511703
The Avengers disassembled when Vision crashed a Quinjet and vomited out a bunch of Ultrons.
There is precedent to this.
>>81511247
He was built to kill Avengers by Ultron.
Hell, just watch his EMH episode to understand.
>>81511247
Let me put this into perspective.
Vision could easily become invisible, wait for any one of them to fall asleep, and then turn into a hyperdense knife right in their brains in a split second, then escape.
And nobody could see that.
>>81510470
Chilling. HOLY FUCKING SHIT.
>>81512680
America runs around at near light speed and binary carol is just a shot away with adam and monica around. The ultimates take this. Not to mention vision's phase isn't as good as kitty's
>>81512658
Pretty sure his family wouldn't want to go to the negative zone.
>>81510470
wouldnt magneto be enough to deal with vision?
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>>81512951
>Vision turns as dense as a neutron star
>The gravity crushes everyone around him
We have not seen a single upper or lower limit on Visions density powers.
We HAVE seen he can go toe to toe with Thor, someone who can smother most of that room into paste with casual ease if he wanted to.
>>81512821
yeah. stole that guys dog. I mean, sure I get, making the synth dog... but, give it back to the guy..
>>81512661
Wait, SHIELD isn't already watching them like fucking hawks?
That's just total incompetence.
>>81510470
I hope one of the Visions gets to beat the crap out of Miss America before they all go down.
>>81510394
>and this is when I decided I would dig this series up.
>>81512983
I doubt he wants that guy to know his dog is dead. Looks especially suspicious after he was given "a tour" of the wrecked house.
>>81510326
Puppy :'(
Visiondog is cute.
Wait so did he use live puppy to create synthetic puppy?
Also what wrecked his house?
>>81510399
I'm right there with you.
>>81513222
Gotta copy the brainwave pattern for puppysion.
>>81513222
synthoids are derived from brainscans.
to make a dog synthoid he removed the dog's brain and scanned it
there will probably be a thing next chapter where it remembers its real owners
>>81513222
I guess it's implying that Vison flew into a destructive rampage on his house when he found out what Virginia pulled behind his back. That's why he later says he's sorry for his initial reaction.
>>81510583
Karnak would've been there, but he gotdelayed
>>81510348
Holy fucking shit this book doesn't stop.
>>81513308
Ha.
>>81510368
>its the same guy thats going to burn alive with his wife
I see what might cause it
>>81510334
>Martha?
WHY DO YOU SAY THAT NAME?
>>81511247
>Just the ANAD Avengers would have been enough.
Bar Thor, he's literally the strongest member on that team. He can probably go intangable to deal with Miles "One-Hit KO" Morales.
>>81513376
Don't bring your /tv/ bullshit into a good thread.
>>81511494
That's the thing; that part is entirely new and made up for this series.
While this series IS amazing so far (like, so good), it's also basically flung in the face of everything that has been published about Vizh in comics before Bendis just kept calling him "a robot".
A key facet of Vision was that while his body and brain were synthetic, ultimately he was a human being, or at the very least a very decent person.
So, fuck Bendis for ruining everything he touches since USM, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
I can't remember: are we still waiting to find out whose brain patterns Vision used to make Virginia?
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>>81511908
Death never seems to stick with Grimmy.
Also, I'm not sure killing him is even morally wrong, since he's a stone-cold psycho even by supervillain standards of the deeply mentally and emotionally unstable kind.
>>81513222
Why waste a perfectly good dead pup when you can use its brainwaves?
>>81512500
She also gave a man permanent brain damage and was present when the kid was killed due to her going intangible.
>>81510470
Why would the X-Men and Inhumans be involved in this?
The X-Men would surely tell Agatha and Wanda to fuck off and sort it alone.
>>81510470
I think that's a safe option, considering Vision could use them as leverage, especially if the kids don't see him coming.
>>81512903
The Vision since his introduction has been the one Avenger that could beat ANY OTHER AVENGER.
Guy can with relative ease take down the Hulk, and has indeed done so before.
Guys, Viv and Vin are Kamala and Sam.
>>81510348
What happened here? Did Vision and family have a fight?
>>81511565
"Tom, you can't just have it be Wanda's friends like Strange and Cap...we gotta have CROSSOVER with people who give no fucks about Vision and wouldn't trust Agatha."
>>81513621
It's the end of the world kinda scenario, why wouldn't they be?
>>81513774
Vision overreacted. Home abuse.>>81513875
>>81512982
I'm pretty sure vis has max density and still gotten up broken and I know he had his phase stopped like with the ebony blade recently and getting hit by Karnak.
>>81510368
If the fire happens because of that lighter...
Did Agatha tell them about the Everbloom? I am pretty sure Strange would point out that there's the risk that Chthon could easily use that to feed Agatha bullshit.
Because trusting a ghost and Chthon's Wundagore ruses seems pretty fucking stupid.
>>81510474
/co/, what should the dog's name be?
>>81512542
Two people got killed in self-defense. And not by vision either, by his wife. Hardly homicidal maniacs.
>>81514660
The problem of "maybe this is a trick designed to get us to fight vision" is easily solved by, well, not fighting vision.
cover up the murder, say reaper killed the boy and the wife killed reaper trying to stop him, and move vision's family. Bam. Comic over. Problem solved.
>>81514341
What fire?
>>81514750
The later case could hardly be called self defense, he just had a gun and she had the Vision's powerset, he couldn't do shit to her, she just put him in a coma to cover up her initial self defense kill.
>>81514750
Reaper was obviously self defense but what about the boy? I don't really remember how that happened
>>81514713
Johnny Vee
>>81514785
In the very first issue, not the current issue's cover.
>>81514840
Dude pulled a gun on her and she went intangible. The bullet phased through her and hit the kid, who was just coming down the stairs at that moment.
>>81514785
>pic related
>>81514892
Yeah it's definitely setting that up I guess. Damn King is just too good for Batman.
>>81513308
Nice
>>81514969
Viv is also confirmed for dying from the narration of another issue. Shit's going to go way south.
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>>81510284
wow, actual comp. sci.
>>81515721
and mostly accurate at that.
>>81513222
>Also what wrecked his house?
he did. vision flipped out when he realized his wife had killed someone and buried them in the backyard.
vision will do ANYthing to make his family happy......including killing them all and re-creating them to start over.
>>81513308
savage
>>81513388
>implying One Sting Man' bioelectricity wouldn't destroy all of Vision's circuits, intangible or not
How do I send letters to Marvel?
>>81510291
Really? She didn't even bury the thing six feet?
>>81510308
Vision telling a dad joke, robotically.
heh
>>81514713
Vido
>>81516688
She isn't a trained homicidal cunt. .... Yet.
>>81510417
Oh shit.
>>81516070
>including killing them all and re-creating them to start over.
Rubbish. He would never do that. W-would he?
>>81516847
a tool that cannot be fixed must be replaced
Vision's goal is to have a happy family. the actual members of said family are just tools to achieve that goal
>>81516888
>a tool that cannot be fixed must be replaced
He seems hellbent on not giving up on them and making them work, even if he sees it as an unsolvable problem.
>>81510308
>first comic ever to touch my head-canon
I LOVE THIS SHIT SO FUCKING MUCH
>>81512936
>near light speed
She's perceptible as moving from light speed perspectives. Not the same thing. She's specifically not as fast as light speed Monica.
>>81510291
The dog was so adorable, so pure
Why did it have to die
>>81516399
Bottom of the page >>81510474
>>81517451
This is King's Vision. Everyone has to die. I love it.
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>>81512661
Vision, an I guess by extension the Visions, crave normality, or at least some semblance of it. Moving them, sending a Shield liaison, and being exempt from the law might ultimately well...
Hurt them as well. Or at the very least be perceived as hurt.
>>81514880
That strikes me more as manslaughter than self defense or murder.
>>81517126
Thanos being related to the Skrulls
>>81510470
This clearly is a plan from Doctor Doom to destroy the Avengers.
>>81517792
Because of the chin?
>>81512850
Yay, I love this song.
>>81512983
Fucking Synths...
>>81517673
You can't even actually blame her for the kid getting shot. She just did what anyone who can become intangible would do if somebody started pointing a damn gun at them.
>>81517874
Damn yes!
I can't help to wonder what Hank and Ultron would think of this whole situation...
>>81518141
Do they still love themselves or did that effect wear off?
>>81518209
They are still fused
>>81510417
... WHAT!?!?!?!?
>>81518674
Next issue the dog instinctively goes back to his old house and the neighbors think they murdered their dog.
>Dad has a violent outburst and the mother's lies come to light, the family is falling apart and the children are suffering for it
>Gets them a puppy
>>81512500
Because of course it can't stop there.
We've already seen Virginia's actions in covering up the crime have already led to two more lives being lost. And now a third with the dog.
How long until George and Martha stumble on some piece of evidence Vision and Virginia missed and they have to be taken care of. How long until the detectives start digging up clues and have to be gotten rid of? How long until another kid at school bullies Vin at school and he snaps them in half like a twig?
>>81518039
>implying she's not bulletproof
Imagine if Superman dodged out of the way of a man with a knife and let a bystander get stabbed
>>81510378
>Vision cosplays as the watchmen logo
>>81510417
god i hope that dog has powers
I'm very confused.
-Why is Agatha saying Vision will kill everyone?
-Why was their house all fucked up?
>>81519659
>-Why is Agatha saying Vision will kill everyone?
She foresaw it when she killed her cat.
>-Why was their house all fucked up?
Vision went ballistic when he discovered she lied to him. After she explained everything, he apologized.
>>81519702
Vision is not a very calm man.
>>81512745
flint is replaceable. rust is easily preventable.
>>81514713
Did Vision put the Reaper's brain in the dog.
>>81512488
yeah but what happens the next time someone dies because they were mean to viv.
>>81519659
> Wundagore
> Can totally trust that place for predictions
Top kek
>>81512658
The negative zone sucks though.
Like its terrible and full of evil bugs and ape-bomb-men.
>>81512661
Speaking as a Catholic, "Lets just move these guys somewhere else and hope they don't do it again." is a bad policy that blows up in your face.
>>81510348
God, I love this book.
>>81513621
There was a time when the X-Men crawled out of their own navels long enough to help when bad shit came down or the superhero community needed to talk.
Then people who don't read non-x-men comics started going, "wait prejudice makes no sense and is illogical, wtf, separate them!"
>>81513815
Presumably not all of them are gonna go, Agatha just called a general meeting.
>>81516847
Why do you think his wife was afraid to tell him what happened?
>>81517451
Speaking of which, the vision dog really sunk into me how much this is a dark twist on Silver Age super-families. Like I got it but the dog still made me go "ooooooh its krypto."
>>81518970
Vision actually isn't bulletproof without increasing his density.
He's stronger then normal people and made out of synthetic versions of what regular people are, but other then that is basically human.
>>81521453
>Then people who don't read non-x-men comics started going, "wait prejudice makes no sense and is illogical, wtf, separate them!"
What's funny is that Excalibur (the X-book taking place in the UK) kind of implies here and there that huge mutant racism issues and race riots is most definitely something of an "American problem" rather then a universal one.
In fact most UK civilians seem to have a hard time understanding the difference between mutants and other superheroes.
>>81512063
>He's essentially stuck inside Rogue in a Carol like scenario.
How is that even possible, her powers were fine a couple of years ago? This was literally impossible unless she intentionally did that, which would also fuck her powers right back up again.
>>81521968
Even the Russians were shown to embrace mutants and celebrate them as national heroes.
>>81521968
>>81522116
It kinda makes sense.
Traditionally the US has had far more religoius fundamentalists then many other countries, and fundamentalism specifically in ANY religion is pretty poor at adapting to new shit, resulting in riots, prejudice, and protests, especially when religious authorities use fundamentalist rhetoric to fire up their group or political interests do the same to get votes.
>>81522014
Well Simon was essentially sentient energy with no real body so when he gave her his powers he basically entered her body, unfortunately he got stuck in there and was a voice in Rogue's head for a while then he hasn't really been heard of since Secret Wars started.
>>81522116
And Sunfire is supposed to be decently influential in Japan, though in modern Japanese culture his political attitudes would be something of an embarrassment at best.
Mathfag here. Decent use of the old P vs NP. But>implying humans aren't deterministic.
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>>81510378
What fucking good use of splashes
>>81522575
I was hoping a nerd would show up because I never understood that thing until I read this and was wondering if it was an accurate explanation.
>>81510291
>Everything
Well, aside from shit outside NP, like R and impossible problems.
In fact, all the problems a computer can solve is a countable infinity, but the number of problems you can pose is an uncountable infinity, so there is actually an infinity of problems you can't solve.
>>81512488
I think the greater problem here is that the family is clearly degenerating further.
How long before Vin starts murdering classmates or Virginia starts vaporizing neighbors for making her home "unclean"?
>>81510247
Christ this is disturbing as fuck... I love it!
If i love this comic and the 2012 small run of hawkeye, what else can i read?
>>81522657
Not completely accurate, but pretty accurate. From a deterministic perspective it's a nice shorthand to think of P as "problems with shortcuts" and NP as "problems which can be brute forced." It's worth noting that some problems are beyond NP complexity, but I don't know if those are necessarily problems that translate in any way to the real world.
>>81510247
Jesus Christ. Everything about this comic just reminds me of fucking Next to Normal. Like Vision cutting up the dog and shit and all I hear in my head is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iGsNju-MGw
>>81510417
P!=NP
I fucken knew it!
>>81510417
So, uhm.
Do we actually know how Vision made his family? Because I don't actually remember that...
>>81523038
Yeah, there's some...kinda disturbing implications here.
Like, Vizh is based off the positronic brain of the first Human Torch and the thought patterns of Wonder Man, but he's never shown ANY ability to make androids by himself.
Unless he literally copied his own method of manufacture.
>>81514713
I like Vido, but I'd go for Friender.
>>81514713
Sight.
>>81523167
From what I understand, Vision's robot type needs human brainwaves right? And this issue just showed us him taking a dog's brainwaves to make Vision Mutt.
....Are we sure that he didn't do the same to some random humans to get the brainwaves for his family?
>>81510976
Vision is making choices a normal person would. However, it's clear that based on the choices his family have already made, this will only continue to get out of hand if they continue to do what they're doing now until it's escalated to global proportions.
I wouldn't label Vision as 'evil,' but he is becoming a huge threat.
Hank Pym was right. AIs were a mistake, Vision knows this is true.
>>81523358
That is exactly why I asked if we knew how Vision made his family.
Because I'm pretty sure he murdered some people.
>>81523358
>....Are we sure that he didn't do the same to some random humans to get the brainwaves for his family?
Who his wife is based off is a secret (his children however are a combination of his and Virginia's brainwaves), but he doesn't need to kill someone to use their brainwaves, she could be based on Wanda for all we know.
>>81523411
>Because I'm pretty sure he murdered some people.
Nah, he's probably using the brainwaves of one of his ex-lovers. No dead people were harmed in the making of his family, well not at first that is.
>>81523474
>Visions kids also use the brain waves of his ex lovers
I want to get off vision's wild ride.
>>81523598
No, he explained in an issue that he used half his brainwaves and half of Virginia's, probably the closest a synthoid couple can get to making actual children.
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>>81523598
I remember reading that he used Wanda's for Virginia, and combined both of them to create the kids.
The first part might be wrong/speculation, thoug, I honestly can't remember it.
>>81523657
How is that supposed to work?
>>81523680
>I remember reading that he used Wanda's for Virginia
We still don't know who Virginia is based off, but Wanda is a strong candidate, perhaps too strong to bother keeping a secret for so long.
>>81523694
Fucking gene-like memes I don't know.
>>81523694
If it's anything like evolutionary computing, he wrote all the brainwaves as bit-strings, found out the smallest groups of bits that worked standalone, cut around those and stitched together a random sequence with the same length as one of the original ones.
Think meiosis, but with brain-wave quanta instead of genes.
Could someone storyline the other parts
>>81523723
>We still don't know who Virginia is based off, but Wanda is a strong candidate, perhaps too strong to bother keeping a secret for so long.
I agree. Wanda is obvious and doesn't make sense to hide it, if her brain patterns were used.
So I'm pretty sure he used someonelse, but it can't be some random person... maybe Jocasta?
>>81523913
Though I guess it could still be Wanda and be a surprise because a big plot point before this book came out was that Vision essentially wiped all his emotions from his memories because they became too much for him to bear because he kept seeing random illusions created by his memories that were so distracting and real that it led him to accidentally saving an illusion instead of a child trapped in a school bus that was in danger..
>>81524033
Holy long sentence, man. I mean, it's perfectly readable and gramatically correct, but I ran out of breath just reading it in my mind.Thank god you ended with double full stop, I don't think just one would've been enough.
This fucking comic gives me the chills, it's like reading a creepy mix between the bicentennial man and american beauty.
I love it
>>81511833
Why would killing him be considered bad? I mean he's some living-weapon tier asshole so every competent lawyer could argue that killing him is the only possible form of self-defence against this guy.
The over-simplification of P vs. NP is weird if you know a bit more about it.
Meaning that if someone found out how to solve a NxN sudoku in polinomyal (fast) time, Vision wouldn't turn evil.
the x men are a paramilitary group that deals with mutant issues, but this concerns them because Vision going all Ultron is a threat to all living things on earth, including mutants.
>>81510470
So who's the ghost chick?
>>81524306
If you found a generalized Sudoku solution in P, then it would be P. It's not like he's saying solutions known to be NP cannot later be found to also be P. That happens all the time.
He believes that the creation of a stable family is an NP-complex problem that is not solvable in deterministic polynomial time (whether he believes the human solution is extra-deterministic, perhaps even divine, or if he just thinks evolution brute forced a working solution is left to the reader's imagination). And so where before he was searching for a clever algorithm for a stable, loving family, he is now attempting to brute-force a solution.
Which is really just an analogy to him saying that he thought he could analyze the solution and figure out a problem using logical means, but now that he believes he can't he doesn't care and is going to do whatever it takes regardless.
>>81524833
Agatha Harkness. She's a witch.
>>81524857
Well, yeah, I was saying that in case P==NP, there would be a chance that his problem is NP-complete, and thus reduceable to be solved like Sudoku.
Also, I'd argue that family happiness would be outside NP. I forget, does NP include impossible problems, or does it have an upper complexity limit?
It's two giant leaps of logic, but given the comic's usual regard for science and logic, I entertained them.
>>81525028
There is ALWAYS a chance for an NP problem to be P-complete. If you can prove otherwise even once then you have proven P != NP. He has not PROVEN P != NP, but he BELIEVES P != NP because he believes he has a counterexample. It is a leap of logic and a leap of faith.
>>81524301
We've made that point in most of these threads.
Virginia wants her perfect little life, and a supervillain's corpse and the subsequent murder trial disrupts that, even if it would be a simple matter of self-defence.
Of course, the coverup is rapidly proving to be worse than the crime, but such is this comic.
>>81512412
>He isn't capable of taking on the Avengers all by himself
I don't see why not. Ultron is, and at this point Vision has surpassed Ultron.
>>81510348
>I want to get clean.
Jesus. This book is relentless. Easily the best thing Marvel has right now.
>>81510897
Yes. But again, in the visions she saw, she had never warned the Avengers of all this, so this is her attempt to avoid that.
>>81510470
>shithumans literally shoehorned front and center of the page
>minority league on the bottom and center and right with black panther
>Nurse normal also in the front just in time for the movie
and of course the actual avengers team is on the left and in the background
and the only people there that actually know the vision there is iron man, spidey, marvel, and wanda
man fuck this page, i bet bendis made them make the page like this
>>81511703
He's in ANAD Avengers. First two arcs were about Vision actually being under Kang's control as he was sabotaging the Avengers behind the scenes. So, y'know, there's precedent for them to be kinda weary of post-Emotion-wipe Vision.
>>81523439
He could have slyly copied Wanda's brainwaves when he announced to her he was removing his emotional memory.
He probably only took the bits of Wanda he liked and maybe added some Carol (thus making Virginia the first Wanda/Carol interaction in years), that, mixed with Wanda's depression and "dual nature" is a recipe for fuck-up central.
>>81511017
No, that'll happen at the end of the story. Next issue is a flashback to Vision and Wanda's marriage, then the final 5 issues after that will be about Vision vs. the Avengers. The house getting burned down will presumably happen at some point during that arc.
>>81520018
>>81512686
i think the point is that a lighter that hasnt been serviced since 1943 works better than the visions family anon
Meanwhile, over on Uncanny Avengers...
Can someone remind me why Virginia didn't just report the Grim Reaper's death? She killed a mass murderer who had broken into her house and attacked her family - clear self defense in the most liberal of places, much less in the state of Virginia, even the Yankee occupied parts.
>>81524868
BURN HER!
>>81523913
But Agatha is narrating and may be ommitting that from Wanda and the others because she will flip her shit if she finds out.
>>81527128
Because she had a moment of pure, uncontrolled panic at what she had done, and knowing what Vision's reaction would be. Instead of doing the logical thing, she did a very human action. A stupid action
>>81517253
ok fine but she is closer to light speed than vision
>>81526868
>Nurse normal
who?
