This was absolutely wonderful. Superman's in great hands with Tomasi.
I'm not the type to storytime much, but I loved this so let's do it!
>>81505347
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>>81505347
Thanks OP!
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>>81505458
No problem bruv
>>81505495
As soon as I saw those statues in the previous page, I was completely sold on this issue.
Tomasi absolutely gets it.
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>>81505563
What a good boy Krypto is
>>81505613
don't tell me this is just going to be ASS 2.0
>>81505563
Krypto is a good boy.
>>81505634
>>81505669
Poor Lana.
These kids have been through so much shit.
>>81505640
All-Star Superman itself is a sendup of an old pre-crisis story where Superman tried to accomplish a bunch of things before he dies. It's an oldie but a goodie.
>>81505536
I felt the exact opposite way.
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>>81505390
"And you're the FATHER, anon!"
>>81505769
I hope I'm not overselling this issue, it's just that I haven't felt this strongly about a Superman comic in quite some time.
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>>81505823
wut?
>>81505808
You sure it's not just All-Star Superman nostalgia?
>>81505823
I'm one of those cranky assholes that's been railing against New 52 Superman, but I don't want him to die. I just wanted the writing to improve.
>>81505876
>>81505875
Pretty sure. Like I said, ASS itself is a love letter to an older Superman story where Superman was dying. I don't mind if it's not original as long as it's a well-told story, and IMO this is.
>>81505866
his power probably gets split, there's a chinese superman and a superwoman in rebirth
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>>81505449
Huh. I thought JLA happens before Darkseid War.
I know /co/ hates Mikel Janin but this guy's art really does it for me. The two-page spreads are just awesome.
Too sleepy to read now but glad to hear it was good. I was hoping it was just SMWW that was bringing Tomasi down but I needed him to prove it to me first.
>>81506114
Yeah I like his stuff. Of course, I am not really an art snob either.
>>81505876
Remember, there are no bad characters. Only bad writers.
>>81505477
>>81505449
Based as fuck Tomasi.
>>81506043
I wouldn't take that to be in chronological order. Just three significant moments.
>>81505938
Goddamn Commies trying to steal our AMERICAN WAY.
>>81506114
>/co/ hates Mikel Janin
Really? I thought the art here looked really nice
>>81505740
Agreed. Statues are dumb.
Now do Coming of the Superman 3.
>>81506320
>I wouldn't take that to be in chronological order. Just three significant moments.
Or that. I don't really mind story> continuity, but it surely annoys me sometimes not to know when DCYou and JLA happen.
>>81506369
I laughed out loud when I realized a Chinese hacker was trying to crack the Fortress of Solitude and steal Clark's incriminating emails.
>>81506408
Already done, anon. Check the catalog.
>>81505347
>Tomasi
Dropped
>>81505589
See? You remove the armor lines and it's like a 100% improvement. Now all they had to do was remove the collar and change the belt.
>>81505745
New Super-Man.
>>81506114
He's gotten better. I wasn't a fan of his stuff on Justice League Dark but I like his art on Grayson and this issue.
I thought it was a pretty good issue. I hope N52 Supes doesn't actually die though, because I think him hanging out with Pre-Crisis Superman could befun.
The thing I hate about this guy's art is that it looks like he's tracing over 3D models
>>81505808
It's no where near as good as you're making it out to be. It's just set-up and thus mostly middling. Luckily we should be getting the next part next week as opposed to enxt month. If it was the latte my opinion on the issue would be even worse.
>>81505925
>ASS itself is a love letter to an older Superman story
Which story? I'd like to re read ASS and that story
>>81505727
Well, my heart's been ripped out.
>>81505948
Nope, there was still some left.
>>81506551
... But it's a good setup? I mean, it's a story arc, of course there's gonna be an issue of setup. That's how serialized storytelling works.
>>81506543
he is, the inking and coloring is just good enough to not make it looks as bad as others who do
>>81506198
This. He was great in Morrison's Action Comics
>>81506651
It still looks pretty damn bad anon
>>81506629
Like I said the issue is pretty middling. And I'm well aware how serialized story telling works, I've been reading comics for years. There's not honestly just not much substance to this issue. And I just don't care. It's not really a bad thing but that doesn't automatically make it a good thing. If I had to wait a month for the next part I just wouldn't care anymore by then. Because I only have to wait a week it's not as bad.
>>81506681
No.
![Superman_v.1_156[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aQwsffo.jpg "Superman_v.1_156[1].jpg")
>>81506601
>Which story? I'd like to re read ASS and that story
Superman #156, The Last Days of Superman.
You might have seen an iconic panel from the issue where Superman writes a parting message on the moon with this heat vision, "Do good to others and every man can be a Superman".
>>81506681
could always be worse like pic related or the dude drawing green arrow
DC loves poser
>>81506800
Am I a pleb? I don't find that off putting at all.
>>81506838
Yeah, but that's okay. The more you read (good stuff in particular) the more refined you're taste will become. I mean, when I first started reading comics bad art wouldn't phase me at all. I could read a dozen Liefeld issues in a sitting and not notice the bad art
>>81506800
"It could be worse" is a dumb excuse when "it could be better" also exists. It makes everything look samey and lifeless. Not to mention action can't be represented well with still 3D models.
I wish this practice got more shit than it does, it's terrible.
>>81506800
>DC loves poser
He says while Marvel has Deodato, Sorrentino and Land on their payroll.
>>81507044
does land use poser, I thought he went straight for stock images and other google images because that's less work
>>81505823
the villain of the saga...
I do understand. The blame for your pain is Superman.
>>81506198
And in Pak's run
>>81506198
Miles Morales is pretty bad, anon.
>>81505449
The 3 last sagas, this year, are to blame for this
At the end WORST SAGA, Truth, has been more fucking what was at the time.. Luthor also contributed to it.. So young .. and have injuries like this take decades.
I knew it would be looser chapter, but was not bad, we saw the villain of the saga. And I pushed him from the Super League, leaving people outside the Justice League when he was not.
>>81506370
He uses poser and it's really obvious sometimes.
The art is US War Machine-tier
I really don't know from where these faggots have suddenly invaded every Janin thread to shipost about the art.
So he's dying?
Man, fuck this. I am so sick of Superman stories where he's either dying, depowered, corrupted etc. Can we just get normal fucking Superman doing his thing?
Why does no one know how to write Superman anymore?
>>81506651
It looks far FAR worse here then when Finch was using poser on JLA.
GUYS Antje Traue (Faora) did another nude sex scene!!!
http://m.xhamster.com/movies/5747726/antje_traue_der_fall_barschel.html
http://m.xhamster.com/movies/5762394/antje_traue_der_fall_barschel_02.html
Here is her previous scenes...
http://watchscenes.com/antje-traue-nude-scene-in-weinberg/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U2YPgp368Gk
>Superbro is going to die and make way for Superdad to take over
Okay
>>81507789
I fucking love this team.
>>81505449
>Kryptonite Chamber Room
Editoooooooors!!!!
>>81507789
>Le poser xD
Nice bogeyman
>>81507841
Preach it!
>>81505640
PLEASE tell me this is gonna be ASS 2.0
>>81505640
Why wouldn't you want another GOAT Superman story?
>>81507720
Frogposting should be a capital offense.
>>81507720
Sure, we'll get stories like that again.
When Pre-Flashpoint Superman takes over!
>>81505640
It's written by Hack Tomasi. So no.
>>81508038
>Hack Tomasi
Yeah, I'm going to have to ask you to leave the planet.
>>81508089
He's painfully average whose quality peaked with volume 1 of B&R.
>>81507956
Because this hack isn't capable of doing that.
>>81506251
Looking a tad Injustice there.
>>81505390
Take your hurt feelings and go.
>>81505823
This whole thing feels like what happened after Superman died with Doomsday, a bunch of new Supermen came out of the woodworks (cyborg Superman, Steel, Superboy, etc.).
heh, maybe Tomasi won't be that bad afterall.
>>81505948
Literal 3D model background.
Couldn't he of at least traced over it like vid related https://youtu.be/p2ZTh2ct-S8?t=270
Granted he has deadlines to meet so I'll let him off the hook.
>>81505948
God thank fuck Tomasi, this was actually entirely better than Pak's shitty arc (I liked it at the start but as it continued I began to lose more and more interest even though I like the idea of a nerfed supes). Can only hope this continues to keep up.
so question, why was tomasi so shitty on superman/wonder woman when this was so good? Proof of him phoning it in? Why does he suddenly give a fuck to tell a good story now?
>>81511513
Maybe he can't write relationships?
>>81505477
>New 52 supes in a nutshell
Plot of All Star Superman: ME ANGRY!
>>81511513
Tomasi phones in editorially-written comics, yes.
>>81505477
>Literally killing his own robot
Fuck this edgy faggot im glad he's gone
>>81505563
Where has this Superman and Krypto been for the bulk of the New 52? I haven't felt like this since the final issue of Stormwatch. Why can't DC get the right writer on the job until the end?
>>81511873
It's a robot, not the Vision.
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>>81511513
I think Superman/Wonder Woman is great so far. About to read 18 onwards. Soules first arc wasn't bad but it wasn't great. His second Doomed one was dogshit.
>>81508138
Eat a literal buffet of dicks.
>>81511898
Soule was the best part of the book, it turned to shit as soon as Tomasi got on though.
>>81505876
Apparently someone didn't learn their lesson from Jason Todd.
>>81511930
>Doomsday gore
>Superman and Wonder Woman nuking the planet
>Big plot twist was relationship gossip
>Superman is Doomsday who wants to kill everyone
>Red Lanterns plug in because he was writing Red Lanterns at the time. Sort of like X-Men and Guardians of the Galaxy constantly meddling with each other like Bendis.
Compared to Tomasi
>Superman goes back home and chats to Smallville residents. They know he's Superman, but they still see him as Clark.
>Diana stops the villain while Clark saves the lives of everyone else. They trust each other to do the right thing.
>Clark is powerless, but Diana has his back, always. Anything he can't do, she picks up the slack.
The only great issue Soule did was the Swamp Thing one. Soule made it less like a relationship book involving two of the greatest superheroes ever and more like reading Superhero Gawker.
>>81512225
>>Clark is powerless, but Diana has his back, always. Anything he can't do, she picks up the slack.
It may be only me reading out of context pages, but wasn't depowered Superman butthurt because he can't go and fight monsters with Diana and didn't want to propose to her because of that?
>>81507823
I'll save this for later. Don't want to get a promotion.
>>81512225
A nice few pages.
>>81512413
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>>81512449
I honestly can't tell if you are trolling
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>>81505495
I like the idea of statues... But they are depicted wrong.
Jor-el and lara as the legacy of Krypton holding up the world. makes sense.
Jon and Martha statue should be of family and/or, hard work and living.
I'm a newfag towards DC. I've only read the most recommended stories like Red Son and DKR.
Will Rebirth be a good jumping on point for Superman and Batman? Will I need a wiki next to me?
>>81505823
we JAY GARRICK now
>pre-flashpoint superman is around
>new52 superman
>this motherfucker
>Pre 52uperman be all like, "You're dying? Don't worry it only really hurts the first time."
>>81505536
When did the JL and Stormwatch bases fuse?
>>81505563
Aww, Krypto
>>81505727
Ah man
>>81505876
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>>81505948
>Lois isn't a bitch
I like Tomasi's run already
>>81506114
I like his art on Grayson and here. He does have a problem with sameface, but I'd rather have a handsome sameface than Romita Jr
I haven't read a lot of Tomasi, but I thought he was great on Arkham Knight Genesis (best Jason I've read in forever) and I enjoyed this first issue.
>>81507511
even he has been good in Chulk, though kind of a Peter clone
>>81512264
Yeah I don't know why anyone is pretending Tomasi didn't fuck up. This is much better for whatever reason.
>>81512674
Rebirth is a manufactured jump-on point, yes.
>>81512334
Is promotion another word for boner?
>>81513253
Wasn't it a few issues ago when Vandal Savage leaped onto the scene with Truth/Savage Dawn? I didn't know it was a fusion though, I just assumed he crashed one into the other.
>>81505563
Krypto is best dog.
>>81507823
Didn't realize how much a strong jaw she had until that scene where she's getting choked
So is the Chinese Superman going to do Kung Fu?
>>81511741
>implying this isn't one.
>>81511898
>I think Superman/Wonder Woman is great
Stopped reading right there. Eat shit literally.
>>81516709
That's racist.
>>81507841
It still sort of exists as the Justice League United. I hope the new JLA book isn't just about the big 7. I like a solid mix of A and B-listers, and a good mix of powers.
I like when they use Green Arrow/Martian Manhunter instead of Batman/Superman, keeps them from hogging the spotlight.
>>81505876
FUUUUCK. I love this page in its simplicity.
>>81505414
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>>81505495
>>81505563
>we'll never have a movieverse Krypto
Why live?
>>81517539
Krypto got his own TV, he doesn't need movie shit
>>81517539
Pity, since Cavill had his dog with him on the set of BvS.
>>81517196
I think they duidn't reveal anything about the new JLA book, because it's actually going to be JSA team-wise, written by Geoff The Cereal King and spin directly out of his DC Rebirth one-shot.
>>81511889
You clearly didnt read Morrison, Johns, or Pak's run. But okay.
>>81518445
I really didn't like Pak's run.
>>81507511
You sound like a racist person. Like the person you quoted said, no bad characters, only bad writers.
>>81518631
Why? What Lies Beneath was awesome. Under the Skin was really spooky. And Truth was fucking stellar. The only time his run was bogged down is when he had to do a Superman-line crossover like in Doomed.
>>81517833
The problem with the DCEU Superman is hardly Henry Cavill the actor/person.
>>81517196
Yeah, JLU had nice line-up, as well. Surprised we got Adam Strange.
But it had Lemire so fuck everything.
It's going to turn out using his powers are what's killing him. That's why poppa supes is taking over.
>>81518886
what's wrong with Lemire? I heard his GA book was great.
>>81518962
He's terrible on team books.
>>81518741
>Truth was fucking stellar
I liked it. IT was neat.
So is this how they're getting rid of nu52 supes and replacing him with pre-flashpoint boy scout?
>>81519076
Superman standing up to shit cops, being a friend to the cheeldren, and being a symbol of hope and solidarity to the people? Fuck yeah.
>>81518741
>>81519076
The best arcs of Pak's run were the ones without crossover shit, the underground arc and the Smallville one. The first arc of Truth in Action was good but it went downhill after Kuder got busy. The only notable Batman/Superman arc was the Superman's Joker one.
>>81519193
>So is this how they're getting rid of nu52 supes and replacing him with pre-flashpoint boy scout?
If that isn't what they're doing it's clear that's what they want people to think.
I'm really torn here. I adore pre-Flashpoint Supes but I don't really want New 52 Superman to die either. I was kind of hoping for some sort of continuity merge.
>>81511905
He's kind of right. Everything between Born to Kill and the Robin Rises arc was kind of mediocre with a few notable exceptions. And even Robin Rises had flaws that could be addressed.
>>81518784
Yeah, I think he's fantastic for the role, to bad we rarely get good scenes with him. I enjoyed the Clark/Lois bath scene and his "you are my world" moment - there really should have been more of that.
>>81519563
He might retire or something for a while, but I don't think he's dying. Jurgens yesterday that Clark Kent would still be running around which is what causes confusion.
>>81518741
>And Truth was fucking stellar.
You serious nigga?
>>81519289
>Superman standing up to shit cops
Until that dumb reveal which threw out all the social tone of the book for literally who cares catoon bogeyman. It was dogshit after that.
>>81519698
But Clark Kent is a mystery, and the two Supermen will meet in this current arc. So, if the Clark Kent in that story were N52 Clark, it wouldn't be a mystery either to the readers or the Supermen, only the public in general.
>>81505347
I love superman, but I havnt been able to read much of his new 52 shit because it's shit. Can I hop on this issue without reading much of the story before this?
>>81520086
The way he stated it yesterday, the mystery is specifically about the general public trying to understand how Superman and Clark Kent can both be around if they're the same guy rather than a reader mystery. I suppose it's debatable though.
>When the book starts off, Lex Luthor has pretty much proclaimed himself the Superman of Metropolis. Well, our Superman knows Luthor’s history on his own world and will never trust him or buy into the idea of him as a hero. Meanwhile, someone has found and released Doomsday on the city, and it’s all complicated by the fact that Clark Kent is very obviously running around in Metropolis. The whole world has learned that Clark and Superman are one and the same, but suddenly they seem to be two separate people, so that can no longer be the case. We start to really build this entire mystery of “Who is Clark Kent?” while at the same time bringing plenty of the “action” the title promises as you only can with Doomsday.
>>81520228
Yeah it's the beginning of a new arc and they recap things here a little too
>>81520228
I would say so. There are a few references to things that have happened but nothing that would leave you lost.
>>81518667
>implying
>>81505347
>>81505372
Romita has no sense of perspective. Fuck
>>81519076
GTFO weeb.
>>81519775
Why wouldn't it be?
>>81519867
Yeah, but, yano, comics. It still had it's societal impact.
>>81520228
It's not though. Haven't you been reading this thread? Try reading Morrison, Johns', or Pak's run. Or even the inoffensive Jurgens/Diggle/Giffen stuff. The only really really bad run was Lobdell's.
>>81520646
hyperbole is a meme, /co/ seems to rank anything not historically great as shit
>>81520646
I think Morrison and Pak's runs are supremely overrated, but Geoff Johns's Superman run is worth the read for sure.
Also read the digital-first Adventures of Superman series if you haven't. It's an anthology series so the quality is somewhat mixed, but when it's good it's really fucking good.
>>81520228
Yes.
>>81520646
>>81520769
Yeah, I was okay with Johns, but this first issue of Tomasi is already better than what I got from Pak and Morrison. But tastes differ, etc, etc.
>>81520769
The short Johns run is ruined by JRJR's art and the Ulysses heel-turn was kind of not impressive even though you knew it was coming. It wasn't bad of course, but you could tell it was the opening arc for a run that didn't get to be written. I don't know if I would recommend it on its own at least as a great thing. That depowered issue was a nice note to leave on though.
>>81520591
Mr. Pak I really wanted to say this for a long time, you're fucking hack, your Superman was literal definition of textbook average and I hope every cunt fun of yours who referred to your dogshit as Paktion dies.
>>81520769
Pak is definitely overrated.
>>81520646
Morrisons was good, but I couldn't get into pak's, johns, or Lobdell's. I read some adventures of superman and those were decent, but I prefer a story as opposed to episodic issues.
>>81520260
Cool. I'm gonna pick it up. Looks pretty good
>>81520858
>>81520769
You guys crazy? The 18 issues from Morrison's run is the best stuff from a mainline Superman book since Johns' Pre New 52 run. Morrison's run is maybe my favorite mainline Superman book period. I wish he was on a little longer and did another arc or two.
>>81520933
Yeah, sure, but it was neat. I think the Johns/JRJR book would make a good animated adaption.
>>81521088
lol, you mad.
>>81521200
>best stuff from a mainline Superman book since Johns' Pre New 52 run
It was good but that's not saying much there. The only competitor in that era is Busiek's run.
What should I read of new52 supes? I,assume the early Morrison Action Comics is at,worst okay.
>>81521296
Busiek was very average with frequent high beats.
>>81521380
If you like Morrison, you'll like it. Art at times is complete dogshit.
>>81521443
It was still better than most of what else published. Maybe if you include non-Clark stuff like Gates Supergirl, Cornell Luthor, and Lemire Superboy. Kind of hard to judge Roberson's short run I guess.
>>81505347
How was no-powers Sups and should I read this as a backstory for rebirth even with pre-flashpoint sups going in?
>>81521604
>How was no-powers Sups
Had some good parts but I don't know if it's worth going back to read unless you're particularly interested in it
>should I read this as a backstory for rebirth even with pre-flashpoint sups going in?
Rebirth itself will likely catch you up on things anyway so you don't have to unless you want to read about what seems to be Superman putting together his own version of Batman Inc
>>81521563
Yeah but in comparison Johns was better. At least he tried stuff, Busiek played very safe and sound. Although that might've been because editorial reigning him too much.
>>81521719
Wasn't he doing Trinity at the same time? Might have been overworked too.
>>81505390
>>81521604
Read Truth. It was neat.
>>81521980
Don't lie.
>>81521980
It was mediocre
>>81517833
>Cavill has a dog named Kal-El
I honestly hope Henry gets to star in at least one good Superman movie in his lifetime.
>>81522172
>>81522399
It wasn't?
>>81518445
I did and really enjoyed them. Clearly you didn't read my post though.
>for the bulk of the New 52?
The bulk does not mean all of it.
>>81505727
>That first panel
Her face conveys pure hurt, holy fucking shit
>>81505477
He looks the fucking same as Dick in Grayson god the same face is awful
>>81524011
Yeah it's pretty distracting, like reading something with Amanda Conner's art outside of Power Girl.
>>81520260
>The way he stated it
Doesn't matter. Don't take Jurgens pre-release info seriously. Because of it folks were convinced that Batman Beyond was going to be McGinnis even though everything else pointed towards it being Drake.
>>81524205
If he's lying then he's lying but that's different than suggesting some third Clark Kent is going to be in the story while the new 52 one is dead and the pre-Flashpoint one is Superman. People made that up out of nothing.
>>81524287
>People made that up out of nothing.
No they didn't. It's a logical conclusion considering Jurgens doesn't actually say it's new 52 superman. He just keeps reffering to him as "Clark Kent" and since he says Clark Kent's identity is a "mystery" (whether that be for the readers or fictional public) it makes sense that people might think there's a third running around.
>>81524011
>2016
>still complaining about sameface when all but two artists ever have it
>>81524406
That interpretation just always seemed like a stretch to me and mostly given after the fact to justify the lack of a Rebirth design for New 52 Superman. I guess it's just different people interpreting the same thing vastly differently if you think it made sense and I can't see where you're coming from. From the start of things at the Rebirth panel it seemed obvious he was talking about in-universe mystery given that he phrased it as the conundrum in the identity reveal being part of why Luthor rises up to take control.
>>81506464
Super-ManPrime
>>81505948
I had just finished reading All-Star for the first time yesterday which had the theme of Superman kicking the bucket. Wasn't expecting the next issue I would pick up on Super-man to also feature him dying.
>>81524854
It's not that I think that, it's that it makes sense some people think that. You seem to be stuck on your interpretation and can't seem to understand why others would think differently. I think it could go either way and both options make sense. And I don't think they'll actually kill of New52 Superman.
>>81506460
>Janin
Picked up
>>81520260
>The way he stated it yesterday, the mystery is specifically about the general public trying to understand how Superman and Clark Kent can both be around if they're the same guy rather than a reader mystery.
This part makes it looks like he's talking about a mystery to the readers, not to the in-universe public
>We start to really build this entire mystery of “Who is Clark Kent?” while at the same time bringing plenty of the “action” the title promises as you only can with Doomsday.
That part will be the "mystery" of the title, while Doomsday will be the "action".
>>81505390
again?
>>81518962
>>81518988
Which is always such a weird thing to me, since he's so good at writing families.
You'd think some of that would carry over to a team book, but nah.
>>81507522
are you drunk or foreign?
>>81507823
nice
bumpity
>>81512690
this clark has also already died before.
>>81519076
i remember when truth was being storytimed and this board loved it. what is wrong with this godless place?
>>81513451
She will always be a huge bitch to me.
>>81513451
This was total bull shit. They just forgive what she did in such a lazy unsatisfying way.
>>81521380
>What should I read of new52 supes?
Grant Morrison, Greg Pak, Scott Snyder, Geoff Johns, and this issue.
That's literally it. And I feel I'm being generous with a couple of the things I'm including.
It's been a rough five years for Superman.
>>81505613
Why, the comma?
>>81505495
>Ma & Pa statues
FINALLY
>>81522858
It barely managed to be above grounded or doomed like dogshittery. Actually I don't think it was above doomed. And it's the sole fucking reason that new 52 Superman is getting killed off.
>>81535186
There are always shit writers, not characters. Man they shit all over Lois. Fuck them.
>>81539254
>sole fucking reason
>not Post-Crisis Superman becoming the star
>>81512581
I agree. Something small and human sized. Maybe Ma and pa smiling and standing side by side with his arm around her shoulder
>>81538203
You take this five years and juxtapose it with the previous 5 years? It's pretty even, I'd say.
>>81539254
Because of shitty fans screaming "RED TRUNX" for 5 years, really. Doomed sucked, but Truth was a great arc, dip.
>>81539394
Don't act like post crisis Superman would become the star if sales weren't dogshit because of Truth. Seriously, Truth literally crumbled the sales of the title and DC got excuse to off new 52 Superman. And they were actually hinting towards depowering pre fp Superman in Lois and Clark when it started.
>>81539752
Look at the sales pre Truth and after it started nigga. They went to shit. And truth was shit. Managed to be boring and butchered my favorite character.
