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ITT We lost characters that have been forever ruined by shitty writers and shitty companies. Ahem, I'll start.
>No longer named Captain Marvel is called the stupid and worse-than-holocaust name of Shazam (which makes no sense)
>Billy Batson is now an edgy tryhard jerk and is mean to everyone
>He killed Black Adam
>The Wizard is now black to pander to a tiny minority
Fuck you, Johns. I hope you get aids.
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oh wow you're starting this again?
Whatever brings you enjoyment, I guess. Here's the (You) that you were looking for.

Man, as depressed and empty as I've felt over the years, I can at least take pride in the fact I have never stooped so low as shitposting on 4chan.
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>>81484530
>I can at least take pride in the fact I have never stooped so low as shitposting on 4chan.
Except you're shitposting right now. Because only a shitposter would like a terrible character like Nu52 Captain Marvel (No! I REFUSE to call him Shazam. You can't make me).
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>>81483984
Isn't Captain Marvel a girl?
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>>81483984
I detest Johns but I think he might be able to pull this one off. A lot of modern writers have fucked up trying to get CM right mainly because he's as Golden Age as they get.

>>81485021
Please fuck off.
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>stupid and worse than holocaust Shazam
But wasn't Shazam there since the very beginning?
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>>81484530
You didn't even give him a (You). Asshole.
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>Black
>tiny minority
Also way to be a racist OP.
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>>81484964
He has to be called Shazam because they don't own the name Captain Marvel and never have. Never. Not even once. And it's their fault they don't own him, because when they thought they were buying the name nobody bothered to check with the lawyers first.

He deserves this. And you know what? Fucking Miracleman was better anyway. You should have been reading that all these years instead of your horrific attempt to mash Billy into the DCU. Fuck DC and fuck you.

>>81485021
Yes absolutely. That's precisely it. Before that she was a different girl, a dude, a different girl and another different dude. Billy Batson hasn't been Captain Marvel since 1953. Even DC's own tv shows accepted this 40 fucking years ago, so it's a mystery why OP can't.
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>>81485134
The Wizard Shazam should be white anon. That's how he was created. That's how he should be. They shouldn't change his race just so DC can get some brownie points from tumblr and shit!!!!!!!!!!

Besides, Black People already have Miles Morale and the Fan4sric Human Torch
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>>81485021
Captain Marvel is a woman. Right.

OP is complaining about Shazam.
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>>81485314
>the wizard should be white
Why?
>that's how he was created
Back in the good old days of Racism.
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>>81483984

Nu52 Billy is just a whitewashed Jakeem anyway
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you're memeing but it still hurts to read such lies, you only got the name change right
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>>81485060
>Please fuck off.
Testy aren't we?
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>>81485134
>>81485314
He's not even black though, he's aboriginal. Black people are not the only ones with dark skin.
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>>81485631
He's black
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>>81485889
That part where the Hook Guy tortures Flamegirl was disgusting and DC should feel like shit for Okaying that!
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>>81485314
Well one of them is
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>>81486004

> tortures
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>>81486102
>this is how DC views women
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>>81485889

> We can't have Kate marry the love of her life
> Instead lets have her break up with her for retard contrived reasons
> Also lest make her rebound with a vampire who may or may not have raped her

Thanks DC editors.
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Nu52 Billy turned into a good kid at the end of the first arc did you not read it?

Plus all the original mythos are still completely intact on Earth 5.
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>>81485060
>I detest Johns but I think he might be able to pull this one off

He had 4 fucking years, he already failed and most of the new shit he introduced was retconned in ONE single issue.

>>81483984
Is not ruined forever. Johns already let go the character.

>>81485314

>The Wizard Shazam should be white anon
Caucasian? YES
White? There's no need. I actually saw him kinda Anatolian, He has to be like merlyn, but not a copypaste of merlyn.

>>81485371
Fuck off /co/mblr, Captain Marvel is based on European and Middle eastern Mythology. Shazam being Caucasian is natural.

>>81486077
That was one of the orst ideas i have ever seen, my biggest problem is that we lost the Lords of magic and chaos for this stupidity out of "Saint Seiya".
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>>81486280
>Nu52 Billy turned into a good kid

Billy isnt a "good kid", he is the absolute best kid in the planet. The purest soul and the only deserving of the powers of the gods.
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>>81486280
Yeah he's such a good kid he doesn't think his little step-sister should believe in Santa Claus. And then later punches Superman. And then later acts like a jerk to the Wizard again. I'm sssssooooooooo glad Geoff Johns raped Captain Marvel!!!! I'm sssssooooooo happy we'll never going to get the Real Captakn Marvel back!!!
(Psssst, that's sarcasm btw)
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>>81486421

> https://youtu.be/-sbFhOeqTzY
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Forever ruined to the point he doesnt deserve an actual dead
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>>81486421
They are not Captain marvel fans, they are Geoff Johns fans, the same people that says his JL isnt shit and that wants a live action forever Evil movie. Let's talk about other characters those faggots are the same people that says Earth one batman is a good batman.
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the name change was inevitable since marvel snatched the rights and pushed carol into being a list

you've read maybe 40 pages if you think Billy is mean to everyone, you fucking high school drop out.

pretty sure billy's killed adam the same way as in the original fawcett take and many times since then

the wizard being black has meaning since he's based off an abo god of thunder, rather than being just some random merlin clone
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Do you know what actually ruined new 52 Shazam?

Connecting the mythology to the Trinity of Sin mythology, and then MAKING THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS ASPECTS OF PANDORA
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>>81486327
>actually believes Johns didn't outline the one shots for his own events

>>81486647
>implying John's JSA & 52 weren't the best takes on Billy & Adam in DC history.
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>>81486169
Yeah, hitting the weak is disgusting.
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>>81486077
>>81486077

motherfucker with an energy bear
based
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>No longer named Captain Marvel
Bait from 20+ years ago? Let's see if it's aged well.

>Billy Batson is now an edgy tryhard jerk and is mean to everyone
Not really, but he is awfully bratty for someone worthy of the power of the gods.

>He killed Black Adam

Omg, a THING happened. In a comic book. Yawn.

>The Wizard is now black
aaaannnd, fuck you. Hidden, deleted, microwaved the harddrive.
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>>81484964
>implying implications

Now that's shitposting
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>>81488463
Go back to eating shitty cereal and ruining DC comics, Geoff "Hack" Johns.
>>81488574
Says the shitposter
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>>81487134
Johnsfags are mentally ill.

And no. The one shots barely had any Input from Johns.
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>>81488678
It's one particular Johnsfag. It's the guy that goes REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE when people say JL: origins was shit.
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>>81485819
He's australian aboriginal. I think it's nice they finally got a character that wasn't just Australian Stereotype Man, now with added Mysticism!
Still waiting on a pyromaniac aboriginal
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>>81489767
>. I think it's nice they finally got a character that wasn't just Australian Stereotype Man
And i think you are a Tmblr faggot that doesnt know shit about abos.

Shazam has to be european-middle eastern.

Not a filthy Abo, and anyone that isnt a complete idiot knows why.
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Does Billy still draw from his usual gods or did they do something new like they're all lightning and thunder gods from different pantheons?
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I just want her to have a happy story, like she isn't doing so bad in Silk book but since her appearnce in Miles new book I just now Bendis will fuck her up even more than Slott.
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>>81490055
>Does Billy still draw from his usual gods or did they do something new like they're all lightning and thunder gods from different pantheons?
In the special almost everything Johns introduced got retconed. He has the pantheon again, but he got newer alien gods.
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>Curse Of Shazam will be the movie with no elements from the other comics
>Wally
>Suicide Squad will be Harley focused
>No JSA movie set in the forties

Why, /co/?

I know the New 52 has some really good stuff but if your favorite characters were any of the above you're kinda fucked.
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>>81489859
>european-middle eastern.
>european
NO european, FULL middle eastern.

Fuck off.
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>>81490353
Why?
He was Anatolian.
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>>81483984
>Billy Batson is now an edgy tryhard jerk and is mean to everyone

OP confirmed for not reading comics.
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>>81489859
>>81489767
>>81490353
just want to make sure we're not forgetting there were a bunch of nu52 shazam wizards, and the one that gave billy power was the only one who made it to modern times
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>>81490754
>That image

I just know someone has shooped this into them watching porn and all the little taps into faps.
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>>81490754
It's the squirrel-girl, grimderp shitposter anon coming back. For whatever reason /co/ has decided to entertain them again.
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>>81490815
And it was dumb and ignorant (Johns knows nothing about mythology) every "wizard" was a stereotye without any meaning.

Johns is a Scify guy and good with personalities. He is terrible when it comes to big concets, magic and mythology.
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>>81490754
Johns just coppied the Kyle-Wally relationship from Morrison's JLA.
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>>81486077
who are these guys?
I'm guessing their previous captain marvels but they look really cool.
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Remember when Johns put Captain Cold on the JL and forgot about him?

Remember when Johns built up Trinity of Sin then pushed it to the side for Forever Evil?

Remember she Johns introduced the Doom Patrol and said they were going to be rivals to te JL and play a big role?

Remember when Aquaman was on the JL? And yet not in Darkseid War?

Remember when Shazam and Cyborg hinted at something big (probably fusion) at the beginning of Darkseid war and then nothing happened?
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>>81492307
Remember the plans for the metal men?
Remember the HUGE lans for Wally west?
Temember the Zoom Corps?
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>>81492307
>>81492540
You guys are forgetting the most important one: Remember Krypto vs Dex-Starr?
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Will the real Shazam please stand up
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>>81492307
>>81492540
>>81492697
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Do your jobs, mods
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I fucking LOVE the Nu52 Shazam.

He's infinitely better than what DC tried before. "Trials of Shazam" is one of the worst comics I have read. And there is the whole "Marry Marvel going eeeeevil". Fuck that crap.

This is good. Renaming was necessary, having "Marvel" in the name and being impossible to market it sucked.
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>>81493237
Except he can't say his name or he loses his powers.

>>81486077
>only white character is a stronk womyn
Fucking typical.
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>>81493342
He actually has to mean the incantation in order to trigger the transformation. If he says his name off-hand he won't transform.
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I love it when people say calling him "Shazam" makes no sense, because Billy is clearly a Captain, and "Marvel" describes his powers and identity.
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>>81493342
>Except he can't say his name or he loses his powers.

I'm not going to defend the name change as anything more than a marketing measure, but I don't understand why people like you post about comics you haven't read
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>>81492871
That's from the War of the Gods?

That looks glorious.

>>81493237

>I fucking LOVE the Nu52 Shazam.
And some people is into scat.
>>81493099
>Sto bullying Johns!
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Are all the Marvels just Shazam now?
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>The wizard should be white
>Literally an ancient Egyptian
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>>81486379
I'm sorry your gary stu was given a personality
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>>81483984

Black Adam came back to life right after.
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>>81496771
>>Literally an ancient Egyptian

He wasnt egyptian you fucking idiot . And there's no Abos in egypt either.
Let me say this: you don't know shit about egyptean history
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>>81496928
He wasn't really a Gary Stu. His "moral infallibility" is portrayed to contrast against Batman or Superman, who've come up against their moral codes from time to time. Captain Marvel's been really close to the Golden Age for 70 of the 76 years he's been around and that isn't really a bad thing.

I think DC should offer the classic Captain Marvel, or the New 52 Shazam to fans of both. However, if it came to an ultimatum I think most people would choose classic, since it's like if they made the Tec 27 Batman the basis for their movie. Curse of Shazam, while a neat little story, is really different from how they usually portray the character, and to adapt it for the movie would be cheesing.
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>>81496928
>the most worthy person in the planet mut by just like me!

Filthy casuals.
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>>81492307
Wow, when you put it like that, what the hell happened to him.

Rebirth to Sinestro Corps War, Action Comics, JSA, and Flash are 9/10 runs. This guy managed to spin Identity Crisis into gold in JLA and Wally's run.
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>>81497132
No one would had have a problem if Johns would had used Curse as "shazam earth one". On his own and as an elseworld is good.
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>>81497163
>Wow, when you put it like that, what the hell happened to him

He became CCO.
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