So who's feeling the feel's from the New Documentary
>>81461958
Finnick was my favorite character so seeing him originally with a bigger role was heartbreaking
Oh, and that racism sucked too I guess
>>81461958
Post rare Byrons
Wait, was the previous thread deleted? What the hell? It didn't even reach the bump limit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOK59IXZDR8
>Byron's speech when Zootopia won the academy award
chompers out
>>81461958
I enjoyed it, very interesting idea for the 1.0 but too dark for a family movie.
the animation stuff was cool.
>>81462029
topic was shit
This bun is cute!
>>81462029
janitors don't want anything remotely furry on this board
don't post shit that trashes threads
>>81461958
You could say that. Shit, some of the early ideas were brutal.
Post songs that relate to Zootopia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXZ49yzD4eo
>>81462102
>>81462126
the BD extras are gonna be a real treat
>>81462160
I've been thinking this to actually. They have so much stuff they didn't use, I doubt they want it to go to waste.
>>81462153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k
>>81462160
Have they confirmed that it'll have those? Also, any official release date?
>>81462153
:<)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0
>>81462246
>zootopia_tv_show.webm
>>81462095
>Nick doesn't kiss her
Fucking BETA
>>81462271
not again
>>81462097
What exactly was it? A specific post? The OP?The nude Jude model predictions?
>>81462271
Wow, just drop kick my feels.
>>81462081
OH MY GOD IT'S THE SCOLERI FOX!
>It's another thread of depressing bullshit from the documentary
Yeah, fuck this. I'll come back when you all got this shit out of your system
And I thought Zootopia was a feels train, but it's nothing compared to its first version...
>>81462307
The OP, most likely. Not really a topic.
>>81462307
These threads as a whole are a ticking time bomb that the janitors can remove for any reason they see fit.
Luckily the documentary came out, so there's reasonable discourse to justify this thread.
Just don't overstep.
>>81462015
>patient zero
>>81462368
It just came out today, relax.
>>81462413
Hi INGSOC
>>81462355
This kinda reminds me of Finding Nemo.What if Wide, Sr. originally had more than one child?
>>81462395
>they even bought him a booster seat
God imagine how crazy the degenerates would've went with this version of the movie
>>81462371
>>81462081
>>81462126
>>81462183
>tfw if this movie had been made in the 80s or 90s by Don Bluth this is the version we would have gotten
>>81462371
Only thing I like from the first is finnick having more of a role. Otherwise I'm glad it's gone. Besides being a lot more depressing it just feels much more blunt and heavy handed.
And I wanna hug lil nick and tell him he's a cool cat and not just a predator.And not do anything lewd to him because childhood innocence is precious.
Is there a torrent of the documentary?
>>81462463
autism bro
>>81462478
>tfw the original movie is still semi-canon in that this is exactly what would happen if Bellwether had succeeded
>>81462520
It's on YouTube, but I think it's unlisted
Someone has the link probably
>>81462520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3pF9owYlRI
>>81462520
It's on youtube, you can just rip it from there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3pF9owYlRI
>>81462463
This could double as a screenshot from the tv series:^)
>>81462526
>original movie
>semi-canon
It's not canon at all.
>>81462521
>>81462579
nutted but he still suckin . webm
>>81462579
nice saved that one.
>>81462413
Jesus this is some Animal Farm shit
i love nick
>>81462725
>>81461958
>out
REV OUT THOSE BITTORENT CLIENTS
>>81462084
>>81462579
>That one derp face
>>81462725
>feel his hot breaths on the nape of your neck
He's about to maul you, citizen! I hope you have your spray on you!
>>81462725
Quit temping the mods.
>>81462725
Oh, are we posting the 'Nick is perfect' greens?
I JUST so happen to have them all saved!
>>81462392
>Janitors are the prey animals who get to activate our shock collar
Topical.
>>81462579
>charles manson.webm
>>81462606
fucking gamestop
i haven't even begun to watch the documentary and it's already making me want to chug a beaker full of bleach
>>81462759
>wood whacker
ayy
>>81462788
post them pls
Should they make a comic adaptation of Zootopia 1.0?
Bunny is quick to recognize lewd
>>81462788
No, we aren't.
>>81461958
>>81460211
>there is an alternate Zootopia where shock collars are a thing
>Nick's dad "goes feral" trying to protect his son
>ZPD had "no choice" but to put him down
>Nick is frightened and angry but still tries to follow in the spirit of his old man
>joins the Junior Ranger Scouts
>muzzle_bitch.jpg
>Nick's anger turns to resentment and hate
>can never let it out because of the collar
>it festers into silent rage
>he's still as intelligent and smooth as ever
>years later, a new social agitator/crime lord is rising in the underworld
>known only as "Piberius"
>he's found a way to manipulate the collars
>is carving out a private kingdom where his followers can live and play freely
>it's on the verge of causing a civil war
>only the newly inducted Officer Hopps realizes that's exactly what he wants
>Zootopia is going to burn
>>81462102
>talent show
>an entire 10 minute sketch
That's cheating.
>>81462855
Anon, honestly, do you really think we need it?
>>81462835
And get the mods in here and ban me?
Can do!
Did someone say husbando greentexts?
>tfw you will never befriend Gideon
>tfw you will never profess your love for Gideon after "accidentally" grabbing his hand at a town bonfire
>tfw you will never console Gideon as he struggles with accepting himself for who he is
>tfw you will never roll around in the hay with Gideon in his parents' barn and watch the stars through the cracks in the ceiling
>tfw you will never marry Gideon in a rural church surrounded by your friends and family
>tfw you will never mutually decide to adopt a child with Gideon
>tfw you will never tearfully cling to Gideon for comfort the day your child goes off to college in the big city
>tfw you will never grow old with Gideon on your country farm
>>81462804
Would you trust your kid around someone who shops there?
>>81462725
>ywn wake up next to nick
>ywn hug nick and feel his soft, warm fur against you
life is pain
>>81462860
That's what makes her such a good cop.
She can actually smell the desire to hold hands.
On a less depressing note, could you imagine the level of shitposting and interspecies bantz there would be in Zootopia's equivalent of 4chan
>>81462885
Yes.
>>81462126
That is fucked.
>>81462911
/pol/ would be insane
>>81462752
>not out
OP, WHERE IS IT?!?!?!?!?
>>81462492
duuuuuuuude noooooo
>>81462015
I'm so jelly that he got to see the original artwork for Robin Hood. Those would be amazing to see in person.
>>81462911
What would their /int/ be called? /an/?
>>81462948
Here's the link from last thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3pF9owYlRI
>>81462579
I can see Vanellope in some of those faces
>>81463018
>Circlejerk
No.
>>81462373
I hope the blu-ray has more scenes with John Wilde, he seems like a legit nice guy. He's fairly smooth, has an inclusive mindset, and is trying to do right by his kid. Maybe a hint of what Nick himself would be like as a father.
>>81462925
>>81463023
Why is this getting deleted?
>>81463018
>>81463085
I keep getting these stupid extra frames at the end
>>81463018
Why not circlejerking sadness?
>>81462930
Fuck I want a teaser of Zootopian 4chan now.
>>81463095
its all ogre.
>>81463085
What is it supposed to be?
fixed
>>81463095
The Finnickfags have been awfully quiet since it was revealed that their beloved is a degenerate.
>>81463095
NOBODY PANIC
ITS ALL GONNA BE FINE
Friendly reminder that Byron Howard is a married gay guy and all you /pol/ homophobes jacked off to pictures that came out of his head, ergo making you sexually attracted to him by default.
>>81462911
>An /int/ where every species gets their own flag
>Preds calling prey pussies and prey calling preds cavemen needing muzzles
>Insults of size, weight, skin type, fur color and so many other factors
>>81463139
Not a Finnickfag-he's a shit-but he was clearly against it
>>81463135
this >>81463138 but with a ghost frame at the end
>>81463139
Maybe they decided not to be obnoxious faggots for once, but unlikely. Also their ship was sunk by Rich a few days ago so literally suicide watch
>>81463178
>pretending to be against it to save face
>>81462271
>>81462294
>>81462326
>>81462355
>>81462413
>>81462492
>>81462606
Seriously, WTF were the writers thinking when they came up with this? How could anyone think this would be entertaining for little kids?
>>81463171
You don't need roundabout logic to make him attractive.
>>81463171
And to think we all used to think he wanted to sex the rabbit, when he was really attracted to the fox!
You can get the documentary rip and all the concept art here
https://mega.nz/#F!WlNlgSSK!faqX8T-nB6xNqaw59Wfttg
The more I think about it, the more I don't like how fast they blitzed through the last act. Like, you just had to keep it under a hundred and ten minutes that bad? Really?
>>81462371
Prototype version a shit and everyone who said it was the better version
>>81462126
>It's fully voiced
https://youtu.be/D3pF9owYlRI?t=1465
It's even more horrible than I imagined!
>>81462930
zootopia /pol/ would have bellewether has a top waifu
>>81462157
This is an early version Judy's attempted popsicle hustler insult from the film albeit with her being less whiny:
https://youtu.be/D3pF9owYlRI?t=1697
>>81463256
Wait, he's still Pygmalion for the bunny, isn't he?
>>81463232
>Pixar helped changed Zootopia for the better
That gives me some hope for their future
>>81463171
Hey, if you want to have sex with women, you are attracted to something that in part came from another man. So there!
>>81463215Oh, I understand - I am too.I'm also glad that they didn't show him wearing a diaper in the film. Really, all that the diaperfag artists needed was the implication anyway. I just think it's fun to poke fun at people is all.
>I'd rather it be kept on the DL
Noice.
>>81463215
Anyone gonna ask him why, or am I gonna have to do it?
>>81463171
lmao jokes on you faggot i said no homo before i came
>>81463358
Only if Judy has a secret penis.Jude the Dude!
1.0 is but a twisted Orwellian mockery! It is a festering, dying world! Not unlike a man who can live only through countless machines.
There can be only one solution.
Turn
It
All
OFF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V81DlvZkxGE
Don't worry everyone!
Just because Zootopia 1 had to drop all the dystopian elements, doesn't mean Zootopia 2 can't bring them all back.
Since Zootopia is meant to be the actual utopia, I'm sure there are plenty of other cities where discrimination and preds having to wear shock collars is alive and well.
Just think, Nick and Judy could be sent on a case to one of those cities and Nick could be forced to wear a shock collar just to enter!
Surely the bleak nightmare of despair can still be born!
>>81463333
>implying this is first draft Zootopia
>>81463333
Quads confirm
>>81461958
What documentary?
>>81463018
For some reason i enjoy writing all the things i'll never be able to do with nick even though it makes me sad
>ywn walk with him through a quiet part of town while talking about random stuff
>ywn lay out on the grass with him and look up at the stars
>ywn comfort him while he remembers his childhood
>ywn calm nick down by hugging him
>>81463391
Ask him what?
>>81462413
A disney film.
Nananananaaaaaa
>>81463459
>there is a possible chance he fantasized about being with Nick
>possibly multiple times
>>81463454
What everyone is thinking.
>>81462294
>>81462271
>>81462126
>>81462081
>>81462271
>>81462294
>>81462326
>>81462355
Jesus Christ, this is so fucked up. I am more than glad with what we got. This shit is depressing.
>>81463171I seriously have no problems with his sexual orientation nor do I give a shit either
>yfw there might be some personal stories hidden away in the movie or deleted scene
>>81463459
>implying Byron hadn't bought the BD Nick dildo weeks ago
>>81463490
I would be weirded out if he didn't.
>>81463418
Alternatively
>Nick is framed for some horrible crime
>is forced to wear the shock collar for everyone's safety
>only Judy believes in him
>they go on a rollicking adventure across the city to prove his innocence
>movie is a character study between Hopps and Wilde
>it also explores themes like lonliness, isolation, and acceptance
3rd Judy drawing. still trying to figure out how to torso and emotion.
>>81463459
I can't be the only one who thinks of the spies from Rome: Total War when looking at this
>>81463493
That it's all part of a costume for the scam?
>>81463517
>Implying Byron didn't volunteer to be BD's low-key consultant on all Zootopia-based products
where's the colored version of this?
>>81461958
Just got home from work
What the fuck is this that I here about a "documentary"?
>>81463562
I was thinking why he's into it, since he told us not to ask and all.
But your question gets to the heart of the issue.
>>81463547
>signed it
Already good. You're better than I am, so I can't offer any input really. But I do like it.
>>81463526
Was anyone else a bit bothered by this scene in the actual film? The documentary even said they had to go on and on trying to perfect it, but...fuck idk.
Why did Judy say all that shit? she was nervous? and why didn't Nick let her explain herself? idk that whole scene just irked me, it felt like a sort of rushed/forced way to cause a breakup between them for plot's sake, unless I'm just not seeing it
>>81463571
>implying Byron hasn't drawn the knot hundreds of times by now
>>81463526
>Finally a decent quality webm
>It's this scene
Fucking dammit, I don't wanna feel right right now
>>81463547
Looks good. One bit though, her vest starts further down on her torso than right at the base of her neck. see >>81463358
>>81463418
>Draft version of Zootopia is actually an alternate future where Bellwether succeeded in her race war scheme.
>>81463600
Was that on Twitter? I don't remember it.
>>81462606
>Gamestop
>fat
Neet confirmed.
>>81463635
>and why didn't Nick let her explain herself?
It's not that he was confused by what she said. That's not the point. Like they said, it's a question of her trust for him. What she said showed him that at some level she really didn't.
>>81463665You're in good company, Anon. Never let them see that they get to you.
>>81463635
No, you're right: it wasn't handled very well. Something more than just that flashback was needed to establish Nick's emotional response to Judy's Q&A.
>>81462977
>they released it officially early
Impressed.
>>81463635
Judy was nervous and she was basically repeating what she heard from the doctor/scientist that was talking to the mayor in that facility.
Nick was triggered from all of the photos of muzzled animals and called Judy out on still being uneasy enough to still carry around fox repellant.
>>81463289
I just wanted to see what it could have been, but not at the cost of these feels
>>81463701
>What she said showed him that at some level she really didn't.
What level? Judy had all trust in Nick, didn't she? Judy didn't hate predators like bellweather, the things she said was not out of racist shit but wasn't it just nerves? Nick should have let her explain herself instead of going instantly frumpy. I really didn't get it
>>81463635
Earlier in the movie it was established that Judy was automatically distrustful of foxes, despite all her speeches about tolerance and stuff.
During the press conference she repeated the doctor's tentative suggestion because she herself totally bought into it. Nick already knew she distrusted his kind on some level thanks to the fox repellent. She confirmed how deep that went in her heart and saw zero issue with it.I do think it could have used work.
>>81463635
She didn't even know she was going to be speaking right? Have you ever had to give a speech in front of hundreds, even dozens of people? It is easy to freeze up and say the wrong things, even when you've rehearsed. Considering she hadn't rehearsed at all, it makes sense that she would panic and start saying the wrong things.
>>81463635
I'd say there isn't a single problem with the movie up until that scene.
>>81463777
Deep down, she thought Nick might go savage. You don't really trust someone if you think they might stab you in the back
So anyone have the remove kebab bellwether edit?
>>81463232
It was basically their first draft that they spent most of their time revising, and kept convincing themselves it would all work out in the end because they were pouring so much effort into the project.
And then Pixar showed up and told them to cut that shit out, and they realized that they were really just fooling themselves into hoping the final product would be "more fun" as long as they kept altering it bit by bit.
http://strawpoll.me/7243207/
http://strawpoll.me/7243207/
http://strawpoll.me/7243207/
>>81463635
It bothered me at first, but after giving it some thought it works.
Nobody was really in the right or the wrong this scene, it was emotion overriding everything resulting in the media blowing the top. Judy wasn't wrong by portraying the facts of the case, but she wasn't right either because there were better and more responsible ways to do it. Nick wasn't wrong for being pissed, after all people already didn't like him this would only make it worse not to mention all the bad memories, but he wasn't right either because he was blaming Judy despite it really not being her fault and knowing she isn't that kind of person.
>>81463635
It's a scene to force the duo to hate split apart at the end of the second act to lead back into getting together and confronting the villain in the third act that has been such a shitty trope for buddy duo films and feels especially forced here
Judy is going by the same explanation the doctor researching the savage predators said, and she says it because the doctor has spent the most time studying them and no one else could give a better explanation. What really makes it feel forced is that one scene has her showing off her extended knowledge of plant life due to growing up on the farm but she has to go back to the farm to learn that night howlers make the animals go savage
>>81463800
That scene and then everything afterwards kinda lacked, the plot was then way too rushed. like, right after the breakup gideon conviently gives away the entire plot then judy and nick are best friends again then the case is solved. the pacing was bad. although after watching the doc they were likely on a major time crunch which is why it probably happened
>>81463840
>Walking into a black shop wearing black face
>>81463812
No to mention she went for the spray when Nick mock threatened her.
>>81463840
It seems like he was even smaller in the drafts than in the final version.
Also, why would he have been walking around the shop like that?
>>81463837
for all the shit we are giving pixar for losing their "magic" for the last five or so years.
they sure helped Disney pull out a GOAT movie.
they might have dodged a bullet here.
>>81463800
>>81463785
>>81463781
>>81463747
>>81463728
>>81463701
I'm glad you fucks are actually discussing this scene, the first time I saw the film I had no issues, but the second time...yeah I honestly felt it was REALLY fucking poorly done just for the sake of "we need drama quick"
Nick should have let her speak instead of getting all offended instantly, ask her "why did you say all that shit?"
Though Judy also said that she was "just stating the facts of the case" which was a really weird fucking line to me, almost out of character..I honestly expected "Oh no, that all came out wrong, didn't, it?" and Nick being upset but talking to her about what she said.
Shit man idk
>>81463859
I think you're correct with that. The theme was that nobody is perfect or immune to personal bias, so it made them both react without fully thinking it through.
>>81463213
>>81463139
>suicide watch
more like not caring, finnick is still cute, i'm still not into that shit (literally), i still ship him with whoever i want
it's not canon and it's not like he was enjoying it either way
finnick love is as strong as ever anon.
plus i've been posting pretty steadily but i have a job and i go to uni full time
>>81463899
To establish the "he wants to be an elephant when he grows up" line. Nick is explaining it while Finnick waddles around being cute. All part of the hustle
>>81462855
Before the collars.
>>81463907
I still hate John Lassetter with the intensity of a thousand suns, but I have faith in Stanton, Docter, and Bird and anything they do.
>>81463840
>instead of being casual and low profile, Nick acting grumpier and all out on deleted scene
Seems like it could be ruined his character introduction
>>81463665
Interesting...
>>81463879
I get what you're saying, but no species is meant to equal a specific race.
>>81463872
I dunno, I could absolutely believe disney thought a kids movie shouldn't approach two hours. They really needed, like, an extra ten to fifteen minutes put somewhere between the start of the interview and the climax, but I think that would've put the film at 2 hours on the dot.
>>81463863
While I dislike the comparison to race, here it might illuminate it.
Say the doctor theorized that blacks were criminal and violent because of their biology. Then you go up and say the exact same thing to the press. How would your token sidekick take it? What, you believe that stranger over your friend?
>nick suffering
>moris suffering
>finnick suffering
and why?
>because
only a real sadist who hate animals would want that movie.
>>81463956
I do like the animated John Wilde a lot more than the beefier concept art version. Him being sort of a proto-Nick works better imho.
>>81463418
or maybe we could do something with the setting instead of another fucking dystopian YA novel.
Jesus Christ go read Hunger Games or something.
>>81463909
In the documentary they said that they re worked that scene many times, so maybe they should've just started from scratch.
>>81463943
As long as you aren't that one annoying fucking cunt that bashes every other ship and glorifies Finnick like a fucking faggot then that's fine, I just know some people were assblasted when the ship was official sunk
>>81463909
I'm just glad the friendship break-up didn't last too long.
>>81463960
I liked him until I listened to the commentary on Cars 2. First time I've had to switch off a director's commentary, it was just him jerking off to how awesome he thought he was.
>>81463749
Things get cut for a reason
Sometimes"what could've been" is better off being just that
>>81464003
Well it's mostly foxes getting shit on so I'd imagine it'd top the British box office
>41 minutes into documentary
>Byron talking again
>"I am a gay man, I've been married to my husband for 28 years"
Oh hey he really is.
Obligatory "not that there's anything wrong with that", I had just assumed Byron being gay was another meme; never thought he actually was.
>>81463909
The "stating the facts of the case" bit was just because she trusted what she heard from that scientist. Nick was irritated quickly because Judy was probably the first person he ever told that story of what happened to him at the cub scouts, and despite having heard that story and knowing how deeply it affected him, she still told the press that predators may have a tendency to revert back to being savages.
>>81463859
This.
No one is perfect, situations like that can make you act like a fool.
>>81463909
I got the impression that what really upset him was her reaching for the spray.
her speech might have made him argue with her, but when she reaches for the spray is when he seems ultimately hurt.
>>81463909
It's generally agreed that the movie gets kind of weak around the end.
>>81463859
This, it's not about what was the right thing to do, it's "what would the characters do in this situation"
>>81464056
I think we were all surprised
The worst part was having to change all of our memes about him being in love with Judy
>>81463095
This scene made me feel...weird
>>81464056
The real reveal will be when he reveals he's been a furfag for 28 years.
>>81464119
>>81464045
Challenge fucking accepted.
But seriously, I will have to do that sometime. Man, I know he originated the company and all, but anything with this name on it that isn't Toy Story has been a disappointment or outright crap.
>>81464092
Really only in pacing though. Which is just one part of amongst many.
>"I am a gay man, I've been married to my husband for 28 years"
Post yfw
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Epg0KDxy2E
>>81462878
Jesus, you're right. Nick 1.0's backstory was basically tailor-made to make him into a supervillain.
>>81463837
Yeah, that happens a lot in writing. You get married to a draft and need unbiased eyes to tell you that you need to rework a concept.
>>81464152
>>81463909
I know there aren't supposed to be any racial metaphors in the movie, but to me the line about it probably having to do with their biology is kind of like saying "a person committed a crime, likely due to their racial heritage."
Its' a hugely backhanded comment to Nick, and then she sort of defends herself by saying "it's not like (my race) could ever do that"
Storming out before she can reiterate is understandable, it just took them a while to talk it out again
>>81464117
He could still be a little bi, just for Judy.Just like a lot of women who watched it.
>>81464152
he looks like hes in his fucking 30s
>>81464161
That would have made him being a good guy even more powerful.
>>81464154
>5 seconds in
Im not listening to this.
>>81464164
That's a good way to put it.
>>81464090
>>81464092
>>81464071
>>81464044
>>81464019
With how chill Rich is about answering tweets I can't believe no one has asked him to elaborate or go into some details about the scene, kinda like to see what he thought about it ultimately and how the official movie devs explain what went on. I mean it's obvious what happened, but it felt so fucking rushed and out of character. It'd be nice to know how Rich would explain what went on in Judy and Nick's head during that scene, why she said what she said ( was it just nerves or is she legit thinking that preds are all becoming savage again) and why Nick didn't give her the time to explain herself.
SOMEONE ASK HIM. I'm sure it's a nice change of pace from the 10,000 nick x judy tweets he gets all day
>>81464128
>Byron has always loved animal movies
>One of the earliest ones he talks about a lot is Robin Hood
Hasn't that already been established?
>>81464190
I have the same younger than I look thing. I'm 32 and I look about 25, it sucks.
>>81464152
>>81464141
>imagining Tiny's deep black voice for that scene
Holy shit
>there's an alternate universe where it exists
Fucking christ
>>81464227
>It'd be nice to know how Rich would explain what went on in Judy and Nick's head during that scene
To be fair, it was really obvious what they were thinking. The animators and VAs did a good job of that
>>81464227
Dude, we already know the answer:
>>81463859
>>81464154
>>81464227
It's been a while so I don't remember the exchange verbatim but I feel like the reporters asked a few leading questions that dug her into a hole
>>81464266
H-Hot???
(please don't judge me)
>>81462878
And then it turns into the plot of Judge Dredd and Judy has to put him down to maintain law.
>>81464272
>it was really obvious what they were thinking
What were they thinking? if it's obvious, let us know?
>>81464274
No, that's what you THINK is the answer, I want the official word
>>81464230
>furfags are beginning to enter the jobs with real power in the animation industry
The revolution is beginning. The next few decades will be the golden age of movies featuring anthropomorphic animals. It will culminate in the release of a dark, not-for-kids anthro film. Furfags across the globe will rejoice.
![Honey_Badger_cut_character[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/QmE1rYw.jpg "Honey_Badger_cut_character[1].png")
>>81464152
