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Get in here for Mikel Janin's awesome art.
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>>81442551
>poser shit
>awesome
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>>81442551
Romita variant
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>>81442570
>>81442569
Its okay, not everyone has shit taste like you.
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>>81442606
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>>81442631
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>>81442606
>shit taste
>implying
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>>81442652
>>81442653
Here (you)
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>>81442606
>it's just a retread of ASS
pass
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So he is dying? too bad for new 52 Superman I liked him more than most.
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>>81442551
> awesome art
> depicts superman
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>>81442778
So this Superman dies and the old one steps in because apparently characters are just goldfish, easily replaceable.
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>>81442801
what are you Shitposting about?
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>>81442652
>not getting much of an arc
Yeah, that sums up her character nicely.
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Yeah... no the poser is far more noticeable here then it was in JLD, Janin needs darker lines, shadows & colors to work like Deodato does some of the time, this bright shit shoves his flaws in everyone's face with no counterbalance.
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>>81442828
then in a year or two he's going to back.
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>>81442778
>>81442828
No he's going to do stuff in Action with pre-Flashpoint Superman. Sucks that he becomes a side character though, it seems.
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>>81442778
Mercy killing considering how consistently terrible the books and state of Superman has been since Morrison left.
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>>81442631
dat Lana
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>>81442851
You do realize we can notice your samefagging, right?
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>>81442672
fuck her in the ass!!!
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>>81442913
the nu52 superman book aren't bad average sure not baf
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>>81442953
I swear to god on my eternal soul this >>81442851
Is my single post on this thread.
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since when is janin considered awesome
he's barely a tier above hacks like kudranski
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>>81442653
Ignore him, he's clearly a Grayson cocksucker.
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>>81442953
You do realize you can check if someone is samefagging with 4chanX, right?
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>>81442923
in second panel she looks terrible.
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>>81442988
Are you joking? Paks action stuff is mediocre as fuck, Superman is always terrible except for an average Johns' arc. BM/SM is painfully mediocre, SM/WW is atrocious except for first arc and all the crossovers have been utterly shit.
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>>81442606
>>81442606
so he's dying, guess he took too much solar flare? Damn
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>>81442569
What is "poser art"?. I don't get it, really I don't
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>nu52 Supes dies right after getting his powers back

I'd be super salty if this happened
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>>81443359
poser is a 3D animation and modeling program
some artists use it to make their bodies more consistent but it really shows most of the times
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>>81443359
It's stiff pinup art with very less movement or motion and doesn't look dynamic. Which isn't Janin's art if someone actually bothered to read Grayson.
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>>81442570
That's probably the best JRJR has drawn Superman since he got the gig
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>>81443416
you're welcome to like his art but that doesn't change the fact he uses poser, DAZ or something else
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>this writing so far

Okay, I'm way more down for Tomasi's Superman run than I was a minute ago.
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>Janin's awesome art

suuuuuuuuuuuuure
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>>81442672
>How about we jump in the car, go see the folks?'

But in the edgy mcgrimdark New 52, Clark and Lana's parents are dead...
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>>81443416
>isn't Janin's art
Anon, I love Grayson but the art is really horrible tracer garbage.
The heads don't even fit on those bodies.
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>>81443709
I hope it really was the SMWW relationship dragging him down.
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>>81444073
most likely, he had to deal with tumblr fangirls the whole time and I don't think he wrote a lot of romance stories before.
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>>81443776
the townsfolk he means, vs staying at home without seeing anyone
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>>81442889
>No he's going to do stuff in Action with pre-Flashpoint Superman. Sucks that he becomes a side character though, it seems.
No, he won't. If the "Clark Kent" popping up there were just New52 Superman they wouldn't be saying that he's a mystery that will be answered through the story.
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>>81444568
Was this a lie or mistake?

http://www.newsarama.com/28639-action-comics-writer-said-pre-flashpoint-superman-will-be-side-by-side-with-new-52-s-superman.html

>For starters, in his story, the two Supermen will co-exist -- the formerly primary Superman from "New 52" and the pre-Flashpoint Man of Steel who has been living incognito up until now in Superman: Lois & Clark.
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>>81444754
Also the mystery might not be for readers, but rather the general public and Luthor and all. The only person who knows the full story is pre-Flashpoint Superman.
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>>81444754
We are going to have two supermen?

Seriously what is the freaking point of this? And which one is going to be in JL and Trinity?
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>>81444754
I'm pretty sure it's just a mistake from Newsarama. Note that none of the quotes from Jurgens actually mention the New52 Superman. There's also no post-Rebirth art of him at all.
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>>81444969
I can't imagine they'd put the guy without shared experiences and friendships with the other characters in Trinity. It just wouldn't make sense. This is a guy who already failed to step in to help them when times were rough and probably led to a bunch of unnecessary deaths.

Maybe you could craft a story for JL around new 52 heroes building trust for him, but I don't see it happening for a friendship-y lovefest series like Trinity. It was really fucking shitty to have him hiding in the new 52 continuity for years instead of just having him show up in the present. I don't know why they did that. The last thing Superman does is sit around and watch people get hurt.

I suppose we'll see though.
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>>81445310
It's debatable what his intent was but Jurgens does directly state "new Clark Kent" and I think the solicits use that phrasing as well. Whether he means some person we haven't seen before entirely or just the new one vs the old one being pre-Flashpoint isn't decisive.
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>>81443081
Nah, I like Grayson and even I realize Janin is shit. His same face and poser shit gets annoying.
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>>81443231
>Superman is always terrible
And stopped reading there.
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>>81445377
Actually my mistake, Jurgens just says "Clark Kent" and the solicit is the one that says "new" but the point stands I guess.
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>>81445455
But he's right. What have we had other than Johns? Perez's editorially mandated drivel? Jurgens' bland as fuck trash? Yang's underwhelming run?
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>>81445531
Pretty much everything has been readable to good besides Lobdell and Perez. I do want more than "good" but let's not pretend like it's been actually bad.
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>>81444969
>Seriously what is the freaking point of this?
You talk as if there have never been Superman teamups or crossovers.

Oh wait you don't read comics.
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>>81445531
>But he's right.
No. The only bad run was Lodbell's.
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>>81445586
>>81445623
Fuck, I even managed to forget about Lobdell. But how can you like the other stuff? Are your standards that low?
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>>81445651
My standards aren't low; I do want better than what we've gotten. But that's the expectation for an ongoings most of the time. You're not generally going to get much better than this between the GOAT runs. It was the same pre-Flashpoint too after Johns left. Nothing really amazing but New Krypton had some neat stuff and the only really bad part era was JMS's shit. And even going back further it's not like Kelly's run or the triangle years era were without their warts.

You don't have to buy everything. You don't have to read everything. But this is how it goes. Wait for someone to hit it out of the park, but no sense in crying about the norm.
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>>81445586
Yang was trash. His Superman voice was off and Lois butchery unforgivable. Not to mention horrible pacing issues and editorially penned stories.
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>>81445814
I do agree with you generally, but it feels lie ever since New 52 started, there's been much more of "the norm" and much less of the GOAT runs than usual.

I don't consider Morrison's Action one of the GOAT runs but even if you did, along with his and Geoff's Superman, that's 25 or so issues out of over 100 with Superman and Action combined. Thank God for books like the digital-first AoS series and American Alien, otherwise the drought would be even worse.

(And please, don't insult us by trying to bring Pak into the conversation.)
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>>81445651
>>81446028
>>81446086
You people just sound jaded.
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>>81442606
he looks exactly like dick
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>>81442569
These are the people who shit on Miller's art
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>>81446028
>>81446086
I think the crossovers are a big part of the problem in general. Both Yang (fight club arc) and Pak (underground, Smallville, first Truth arc) told good stories when not being forced to tie into other books heavily. I don't know why that seems to be what DC wants to do with the Superbooks to the point where it's not back to back crossover shit.
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>>81442631
>those boobs
>those arms
disgusting
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>>81446255
where it's now*
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>>81446086
>I don't consider Morrison's Action one of the GOAT runs
It is the best run on character from this century though. I like Busiek and Johns but both run ended abruptly, Kelly's run was hampered by crossover fuckery and Rucka's first AoS run was good but felt very much it's own thing.
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>>81446255
Snyder and King said that for batbooks they have a plan for crossovers since most of them are bimonthly. Hopefully the Superbooks are like this too.
I can deal with one issue being a normal one and a filler writer or artist doing a crossover issue a couple weeks later.
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>>81446255
Yeah I like Kuder/Pak first and third solo arcs but that's it. Truth had potential but after issue 43 where they reveal police are being controlled by whatever the fuck, it was a downward spiral. Not to mention art was always better than story, even in standalone arcs.
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>>81446086
>books like the digital-first AoS series
Don't kid yourself.That was mediocre trash as well.
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>>81446628
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>implying
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>>81442570
>Here's the really good cover
>Now here's the really shit cover to sour your tastes a bit.
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>>81442570
I'm still laughing at how almost every variants was just the hero facing right or left
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>>81442606
>Sicker
God dammit they are just sacking him for PReFlashpoint Supes, aren't they? Not that I don't love Pre-Flashpoint Supes, but you can't just drop all of this characters development and relationships with Batman/Wonder Woman/ Lois just like that
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>>81446628
>>81446805
It was a mixture really, as the format will dictate.
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>>81446628
there were some diamonds and there was some trash
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>>81446937
Pre-Flashpoint Superman, the one from Superman: Lois & Clark, is sick?
I know Nu52 Superman just did some Kryptonite thing that was killing him while giving him powers, could be something related to that?
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>>81447563
No. Read, nigga. PostFlashpoint Supes is sick.
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>>81444033
Those are some freaky big delts on Tiger
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>>81448318
Sorry, I was being stupid and thought this was Post-Rebirth.
Reading your comment and the preview without my stupid glasses on, I think you're right.
I'd like to see them both remain in action with different power levels: Nu52 Superman handles Earth-level stuff, Pre-Flashpoint doing Cosmic/5th Dimension tier stuff.
On the upside, if DC does depower him down to regular human, we know he's gonna come back eventually.
After Pre-Flashpoint Superman gets killed off.

>>81448354
Check out Dick's neck.
Look at how it attaches to his head, I still can't work it out.
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This is a shame, I really liked having a younger, kind of stupid, at least judging by how he acts in Truth, Superman
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>>81442672
>This gorgeous Clark
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>>81443776
They never stated that in the movie, what the hell
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OH NO THE SHIELD WITH THE NUMBER IN IT
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>>81453083
What does it mean, anon?
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>>81453124
Back When Superman continuity got fucking crazy and everything was always tieing into everyone.

There were two numbers on the books.

The Books issue #

And the Number of the Storyline
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>>81453231
That's, hmm, upsetting?
I think I am upset by this news.
On one hand, the convenience is nice though on the other, crossovers are such a damn headache and always result in a hit/miss/hit/miss story.
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>>81453083
Fuck off, the Triangle Era was great.
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>>81453124
Casual spotted
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>>81445316
So, Superman is now the oldest member of the Trinity? Pre-Flashpoint Supes is older than Bruce's current age (since he was about the same age as pre-Flashpoint Bats) and Wondie is in her 20-s.
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>>81455950
Yes, unless Rucka retcons Diana's age
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>>81442551
So now Dick is Superman? Neat!
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