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Zootopia VS Inside Out VS HTTYD
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>three of them considered the highest reviewed animated movie from each studios
>has 98% score on RT
but which one do you like more? based on animation, storyline, humour, character, or etc?
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Zootopia then HTTYD then Inside Out.
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>>81439099
>Inside Out as the best thing from Pixar
>Not Toy Story 3 or Up

But for real, How To Train Your Dragon was the best IMO, great combination of characters, art, story and god tier music. Zootopia wins on animation quality simply because its 6 years (Holy Shit its been 6 years) newer.
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>>81439099
All 3 Toy Story movies got better reviews than Inside Out.
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>>81439099
HTTYD then Zootopia, then Inside Out, only because I didn't and still have no interest in watching it.
HTTYD was really good, and I liked what the TV series did. Sequel wasn't as good, but still looked good and was alright.
Zootopia is great, but not much that mystifies, though I will show curiousity towards whatever they do with it in the future, if anything. A lot of detail was put into the movie, just in the world alone, and it shows.
Inside Out didn't really seem like anything special.
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>>81439099
HTTYD is my favorite animated film of all time, and nothing challenged its position... until I saw Zootopia.

Still I put HTTYD slightly ahead, but both are great. (P.S. Powell's score is GOAT and should have won the Oscar over Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross)

Haven't seen Inside Out, and probably won't. I get annoyed with how much people overhype Pixar films and get fooled by their emotional manipulation -- so I can only image how obnoxious a film with literal emotions as characters would be.
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animation : Zootopia (that fur and character movement) > HTTYD (that breathtaking flying scene) > Inside Out (great, but nothing breathtaking)

characters : Zootopia (the chemistry between two leads were fantastic) > Inside Out (the emotions were so much fun) > HTTYD (Hiccup is great, but the side characters were mediocre)

storyline : Zootopia (really well paced and interesting) > HTTYD (pretty straightforward but really flows) > Inside Out (great but lacked of tension)

humour : Zootopia (a lot of subtle jokes, hidden references and witty dialogue) > Inside Out (a lot of gags worth mentioning and hidden references) > HTTYD (not really that funny, relied more to gags and visual humour)

original score : HTTYD (one of the best animation score in history) > Inside Out (so much beautiful themes throughout and consistent) > Zootopia (some great cues but the less memorable of the three)
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Zootopia is my favorite by a country mile. Inside out felt kinda preachy and fuck any movie that says moving to SF is okay
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>>81439099
Best movie is Zootopia but HTTYD has Monki's guro porn.
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>>81439099
>Inside Out is the highest rated Pixar movie?

Why have movie critics completely gone to shit in this decade?
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>>81439099

Can't compare animation, cgi is constantly improving.

For story line, its a toss up between HTTYD and Zootopia. Dragon has pretty much perfect pacing but Zootopia has the better plot. Inside Out felt too contrived.

Zootopia edges out on humour, but all three have at least some laughs, Inside Out has creative gags. IMO HTTYD falls last here.

As for characters, Zootopia takes this again on side characters and for actually having a villain with character.

HTTYD wins score by a landslide.

All in all, I'd probably pick Zootopia ever so slightly ahead of HTTYD, with Inside Out trailing behind. Basically two GOATs and a 8-9/10.
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>>81439130
>Up
Nigga please.
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>>81439833

This.

Take away the Carl/Elle parts and its a forgettable movie.
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>>81439864
That sums up my feelings on modern Pixar too well.

For instance -- take away the incinerator scene in Toy Story 3 and you're left with a forgettable rehash of Toy Story 2.
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>>81439864
Russell was memorable too. Memorably annoying, but that still counts.

>>81439924
The incinerator scene and the giving of toys to the next generation scene.
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>>81439099
HTTYD = Zootopia > Inside Out

I appreciate IO's message, but overall I'm not that fond of the story, it had a cheap death scene, and the 3D quality is kind of disappointing.
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>>81439864
I feel like I'm the only one who enjoyed Up as an adventure movie and wasn't all that into the opening scenes.
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>>81439473
I think I agree with this guy.

HTTYD did have a great score, damn. And that fucking detail and animation in Zootopia raises the bar.
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>>81439864
>>81439924
>take away the dramatic parts and it's a forgettable movie

Damn, I just realized this lately. It's the same thing with a lot of their movies (WALL-E, Up, IO, Good Dinosaur, etc)

What happened to them
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>>81440026
Wholeheartedly disagree with WALL-E. Even though the second half is not as good as the first, it's still a very good movie.
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>>81440079
I agree, I like the first half. I'm just not that fond with the second half and how everything wrapped up.
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>>81440026
They became obsessed with winning over critics and getting Oscars. Look up how peeved they were that Happy Feet beat Cars -- apparently the whole "this film is 100% animated" disclaimer was put onto Pixar movies because they were unhappy that Happy Feet won when the movie included live-action humans (strange... since Wall-E did the same years later).

Zootopia and HTTYD are examples of movies that tell balanced stories that have emotion in them, but does not make them seem forced or manipulative. That's why I see them as being better than modern Pixar, regardless of what critics think.
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>>81440091
Eh, I still dig it. I think the aesthetics help everything work for me.
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>>81440100
Good post, dubsman.

>that reveal on Hiccup's leg
>that "don't ever let them see that they get to you" scene with Nick
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>>81440100
>forced and manipulative
Is this the reason why everyone dont like Brave?
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I'd go for Zootopia for the animation quality and fun characters.
Also the details, then HTTYD and finally Inside Out, though I don't think Inside Out is pixar's best.
That'd be Incredibles maybe?
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>>81440139
No, it just had a very messy story.

I liked it when I watched it, but it felt a little bit underwhelming.

>poisoning your mother
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>>81440139
I didn't like Brave, I didn't dislike Brave, I just thought it looked uninteresting enough that I never bothered to go see it.
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>>81440100
>"this film is 100% animated" disclaimer was put onto Pixar movies because they were unhappy that Happy Feet won when the movie included live-action humans

Happy Feet used motion.capture. That's why they were mocking.
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>>81440205
I had not watched it myself, I kind of dont feel like it.

>>81440202
I see, well perhaps that is another reason not to watch it.
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>>81440169
>Incredibles
God, it's so hard to say. Pixar was fucking gold around that time. I'd probably settle on The Incredibles too, but then I think of their other stuff done around the same time. I somehow keep forgetting that they did Ratatouille, which I didn't see as such a great film until late, and now it just makes things more difficult.
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This is basically Apples and Oranges, but personally I loved Inside Out the most of those 3. It's the most modest of the 3, but it has the best story and humor for me, and didn't have to talk down about it.

Zootopia is second and I loved it but the message was very ham handed throughout a lot of it, and ending on someone who was literally Hitler was laughably far. Still best animation of the 3 by a mile.

HTTYD I'll never get all the love for. It had some fun action, but it's characters were dull and it told a story that you could beat for beat call from the first 5 minutes. I suppose for people looking for action, it's the one that gives you the most there.
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>>81440214
Jesus christ, Pixar. Cars was okay but it wasn't that good.
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>>81440133
>the moment when they showed both toothless's tails and hiccup's legs amputated on the left side
that's when I was surprised Dreamwork pulled that kind of thing, holy shit.

>>81440139
nah, Brave just mediocre throughout. The second half felt like a different movie
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>>81439099
For pure animation I liked Zootopia. For Storyline I liked HTTYD most. Character: Zootopia. Humor: Zootopia. Researched Psychology: Inside Out.
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>>81440286
>HTTYD I'll never get all the love for.
It's a boy and his dog thing, but with dragons. It tackles self esteem, and parent pushing X thing to child. It had some good action, flying scenes, subtle romance, and a good twist in the end.
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Inside Out is definitely last. It follows the exact formula of a dozen Pixar movies:
-We're shown the main characters go about their daily routine
-Something new happens
-Which sets an unlikely pair on a journey
-Cue random events for opportunitistic jokes
-Main character eventually learns an important life lesson or something
-The movie then tries haphazardly to tie everything up for the end credits
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>>81440327
>subtle romance
Ok, more I really don't get it because that was one of those parts of that movie that felt shoe horned in the most just to make it more formulaic.
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>>81440026
>>81439924
>>81439864

>take out the memorable parts of movies and they're forgettable

well you guys aren't wrong but you're still retards if this is a difficult concept
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>>81439099
Zootopia beats them out for reasons outlined here >>81439473

It's even better than The Lego Movie.
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>>81440280
I just love Ratatouille, but Watchmen for kids is pretty damn good.
Also, bad guy dies, so that gets extra points.
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>>81440382
What they mean is that the Carl and Elle parts consist of the first 10 minutes and don't come up again until the last bit. The story of villainous explorer man and boy scout and taking dogs didn't really tie into the movie that well feeling more like filler.
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>>81440382
It's not that the memorable parts of the movies are taken out.

It is that those memorable moments are literally confined to one or two scenes, and nobody ever seems to remember/give a shit about the rest of the film.

Also Toy Story 3 being a rehash for 2/3 of its runtime automatically makes it an overrated heap of crap, and Pixar's attempts to mask it in the last twenty minutes through nostalgic and emotional manipulation only makes me hate the movie even more.
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>>81440381
Their romance actually don't take away or put in center. And as a future leader, Hiccup has to take a bride. It's just something that flows well and doesn't take center stage at all, even in HTTYD2.

She resents him, she gets to know him, they work together, she has a new found appreciation for him in the end. I found that a better flow than, say Anna and Kristoff, even though they slightly go the same route..
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>>81439099

Zootopia>HTTYD>>>>Inside Out

However Personally KFP2>Zootopia
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>>81440100
Lego Movie
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>>81440520
>Got tired of forced romance in shit like Regular Show or Adventure Time
Oh c'mon, there's nothing wrong with children shows turning themselves into Days of our Lives!
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>>81440443
She mostly just can't off as spiteful until she rode the Dragon then had a miraculous change of heart. I will give HTTYD2 some points though for having them married and not just hovering the relationship in kids stuff forever, but for as much as I loved where they took the characters in that movie, I dislike most everything else with the plot there.
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>>81440287
Don't let John Lasseter hear you say that.

Cars was his passion project...
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>>81440631
Eh he's not impenetrable to mistakes. Hear that, John?
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>>81440660
Tell that to the legions of Pixarfags who suck him off.
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>>81440585
That movie is only 96% fresh. Get that shit out of here.
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>>81440531
personally, KFP2 kinda ruined by more cluttered action scene and shoehorned gags on every serious moments
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>>81440827
Really I thought they showed real restraint as far as the emotional stuff was concerned, that scene in the panda village is probably my all time favorite scene in any animated film.
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>>81439099
Inside Out was good but far from Pixar's best. That's usually given to The Incredibles (though my personal favorite is Wall-E).
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>>81439099
This would be more balanced if it was kfp2 instead of httyd2. I feel it was DreamWorks absolute peak.

Almost as good as zootopia (still losing slightly) and with a far better original soundtrack.
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>>81439099
>has 98% score on RT
Inside Out has a 9/10 average while Zootopia and Dragons has an 8/10. 98% is not a score its the percentile of critics who liked it.
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>>81441292
To be honest I think if DreamWorks just says fuck it and lets Dean DeBois make his vision with HTTYD3 that will end up either being the pinnacle of DreamWorks quality or the start of a new, better direction for the company.

If it survives to see HTTYD3 be released, that is.
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>>81439473
>storyline : Zootopia (really well paced and interesting)
>humour : Zootopia (a lot of subtle jokes, hidden references and witty dialogue)
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>>81441344
>implying we should trust either the percentage OR the average score when critics review a Pixar film
>implying critics just don't ever give Pixar films more praise becuase of nostalgia and the fact that they grew up with them
>reminder Star Wars: TFA has an average rating of 8.2/10 and a percentage of 92% fresh solely based on nostalgia
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>>81440100
>Zootopia and HTTYD are examples of movies that tell balanced stories that have emotion in them
Zootopia literally forces down a shitty message about racism in the most non-subtle way
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>>81441385
/tv/ please
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>>81441401

As opposed to an emotional movie that uses literal emotions as characters.
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>>81441385
>implying critics just don't ever give Pixar films more praise becuase of nostalgia and the fact that they grew up with them
Cars, Monsters University, Brave and the Good Dinosaur says hi!
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>>81441427
Are you just pretending to be stupid?
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>>81441443
>movies that should have been even lower than they were rated

Guarantee you had Good Dinosaur been a DreamWorks film it would have gotten in the 50%-range.
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>>81439099
Zootopia > Inside Out > HTTYD

Just my opinion, but I think all three are great. Though Inside Out isn't my favorite Pixar movie.
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>>81439209
>>81439174
>>81439473
>>81439588
>>81439745
>>81439976
>>81440100
>emotional manipulation
Jesus fuck can you be anymore /co/ntarian?
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>>81441292
>This would be more balanced if it was kfp2 instead of httyd2
Yeah this basically.
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>>81441469
>Guarantee you had Good Dinosaur been a DreamWorks film it would have gotten in the 50%-range.
Nah, by itself the Good Dinosaur is decent f Dreamworks was behind it you can guarantee there would be a lot more pop culture references and celebrity voices
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>>81439099
Inside Out for actually being original
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>>81440439
What doesn't qualify as emotional manipulation to you?

>this movie made feel things, I feel so manipulated!
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>>81439473
>characters : Zootopia
Dawn was a shitty villain and yet another OH THIS TRUSTING INDIVIDUAL WAS THE BAD GUY ALL ALONG, other side characters were one-dimensional and not memorable
>humour : Zootopia
Lots of lame and dated humor (hahaha godfather references)
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>>81441366
Fuck off, saitama.
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Inside Out by a landslide.

Zootopia and How To Train Your Dragon both fit pretty comfortably in my bubble of "very well done, fun movies with a strong heart" but Inside Out does all of that, but better, and is more original and creative to boot.
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>>81441726
>>81441604
>>81441559


Pixarfags detected.
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>>81441604
>Dawn was a shitty villain and yet another OH THIS TRUSTING INDIVIDUAL WAS THE BAD GUY ALL ALONG, other side characters were one-dimensional and not memorable
You are forgetting the main characters
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>>81439099
For me it's a toss-up between Zootopia and HTTYD.

Inside Out was so bland I barely remember anything about it.
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>>81439099
Did this thread attract all the HHTYD and Zootopia fans becaus eof the thumbnail or what?

I thought HTTYD was kinda boring (the humour, characers and monologue mainly) on the first time I saw it, but everything else was perfectly done.

I didn't see Zootopia yet, but I'm excited to see it because of the story.

Inside Out is my favorite Pixar movie yet because of the cleverness they put into each character and that the message the movie gave was very unusual and inspirational. It was the most original movie I saw in a long time.
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>>81441497
I'm not being a contrarian when that was how I felt. A lot of people felt like this and has said this even when IO was just released. I'm not saying it just to go against you.
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>>81441828
This.

Say what you will about the side characters, Nick and Judy were better fleshed out and felt more real than 90% of characters in any recent film imho.
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>>81439099
Zootopia had an amazing character dynamic and I liked what they did with the plot. I don't remember much about HTTYD.

...EXCEPT that soundtrack. I honestly feel like it hit "fantasy adventure" better than LotR did.

Inside Out doesn't compete with either for me. If wasn't bad, but it wasn't as memorable.
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>>81439099

How To Train Your Dragon. Loved Zootopia, and Inside Out was good, but HTTYD was better then the other two.
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As someone who likes How to Train Your Dragon, it's really an overrated movie.

I just watched it last weekend, it's starting to age. Some of the ground and background textures are really obviously low-res. I never really bought into the idea that despite being raised by a bunch of bloodthirsty Vikings, Hiccup developed contemporary morals. And looking back on it, they tried way too hard to give Toothless a bunch of cutesy animal personality quirks to make him like likeable, and it's even more glaring in the sequel.

My vote is for Zootopia
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>Fur-bait
>Edgy-bait
>Other fur/scaly-bait
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>>81442248
Aw geez, lighten up Rick. C-c-can't you just enjoy a fun light-hearted animated film once in your life.
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I haven't seen zootopia, but httyd is my favorite animated film hands down. I liked inside out, but it doesn't have a lot of re-watch value and was overhyped imo
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>>81439099
HTTYD 2 then Zootopia then Inside out
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>>81442435
>HTTYD2
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>>81442413
B-but anon it's... like.... totally about emotions and stuff. It will give you the feels.

FEEEEELLLLSSSS!!!
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>>81442361
No Morty, you give thHHRUP- the furfags an inch, and, and they'll yiff a mile, you can't trust them, Morty!
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Let's settle this
http://strawpoll.me/7278816
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Are there any legitimate criticisms for Zootopia?

I'm not saying its perfect, but its the complete package compared to IO and HTTYD.

IO's plot fell short because it was basically reiterating "Get back to HQ" over until the point it was trying to make was made.

HTTYD story, while solid and well paced, was overly simple and marred by the big bad reveal.
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>>81442670
weird....r/movies has the same discussion like this with the poll

http://strawpoll.me/7277196/r

which one of you is the redditor, here??
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>>81442729
The plot moved too quickly, but it can't really be blamed for that
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Zootopia > HTTYD > Inside Out
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HTTYD's emotion feels earned. The reveal that Hiccup lost his leg was pretty bold at the time.

Nick's Backstory in Zootopia feels earned as well but doesn't have as much impact.

Bing Bong's death in Inside Out was predictable and felt like NOW YOU WILL FEEL, and was unnecessary.
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>>81442789
>dem results
I'm not surprised that's the opposite of what /co/ would pick
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>>81442816
>moved too quickly
>tfw you realized this movie has the longest runtime of the three
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>>81442940
I know, and it was still too short
Goes to show that it was good enough to be 2.5 hours
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>>81442789
You
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>>81442857
Let me guess "feels: the movie" has the majority of votes.

Not surpirsed at all -- Reddit is a haven for Pixarfags who get easily swept up by nostalgia and hamfisted emotional bullshit
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>>81443122
Someone on co put it very well, I'm paraphrasing since I don't remember exactly what he said.

"Pixar are masters of making fantastic, emotional shorts, and then stretching them out into a feature length film with meaningless filler"
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>>81443122
Yup, its like that across a lot of sites.

Ask people why they love Up, and they'll always refer to the first 9 minutes or so.
But never anything else, in fact they don't remember the rest of the film.

Ratatouille was Pixar's last truly good film. Wall-E was only good for the first 30-40 minutes, the rest of the film was ruined by introducing humans and dialogue.
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>>81443191
Well that's ironic... I think I'm actually the one who said that ha-ha.

Yeah, you got the gist of what I said.

That's why I love Zootopia so much, and why it is the first animated film to challenge HTTYD (oddly enough) as my favorite animated film of all time. It tells a balanced story that feels like it is a feature length film, and included emotion without feeling ham-fisted.
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Inside Out: Entirely forgettable. The protagonist was annoying and I felt like there was no one to root for. Score was OK but not really all that memorable aside from that one leitmotif. The only ting that kept this movie going were the clever ways in which they presented the mind and it's workings.

HTTYD: I'm slightly biased here because it's one of my all-time favorite animated movies. The score is a masterpiece, still can't believe it didn't win the Oscar. The animation looks a tad dated now but still holds up well. The story is engaging and the personal sacrifice of the damaged hero really hits home.
(holy fuck Jay Baruchel's voice makes me want to punch something and is the only thing I utterly detest about the movie)

Zootopia: Hard to give an honest opinion since it's still new and shiny. It's visually stunning in every aspect, that's for sure. The character's feel instantly relatable and the chemistry is undeniable. The jokes are so-so and the score isn't anything to write home about either aside from a few exceptions.

Inside Out is mediocre compared to the other two, but still miles ahead of other recent animated features. Only time will tell if Zootopia really surpasses HTTYD. Perhaps once the hype has died down I can judge it more objectively.
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>>81443334
Ratatouille is underrated as hell.
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>>81442361
>DUDE
>COMFY
>LMAO
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