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A wild Mando appears - Edition

>Newest Rebels Recon Episode (2x20 - Twilight of the Apprentice):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-bJu__WXmY

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Download links: (Check here for the newest episode + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy
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Pink hair next season?
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So, what eventually happened to Jar Jar Binks? Dubs decides the dunce's fate.
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So...what are they going to do with Rex next season?

What arc can he finish?
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>>81432128
he was snoke the whole tiime
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>>81432128
The real power behind the empire.
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>>81432128
he became a senator in the New Republic
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>>81432144
WEW
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>>81432144
The first post out of the gate.
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>>81432144
That was quick.
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>>81432086
>Sabine shaves her head
>prosthetic maul horns on her head
What? It's not like Kanan will ever see them.
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>>81431404

His eyes came into physical contact with a searing hot object. When that happens to eyeballs, they explode. His sockets are empty now.

>>81432086
>Pink hair next season?

I personally hope she'll go with something natural looking as far as humans go... So it probably won't happen.
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>>81432128
Pablo has spoken
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>>81432144
EVEN YOUSA, DA BOMBAD MASTER OF DA KNIGHTIES OF REN, HABEN NEVER FACE SUCH A MUY MUY CHALLENGE
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>>81432128
Something about being given a high position in the Empire for being the one Senator to believe in Palpatine during his rise to power.
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>>81432144
So that theory about Jar Jar Binks is true.
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>>81432227
Based Pablo
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>>81432226
We have no idea what the saber did precisely. Those blades are really hot, just passing near within an inch of his face would be enough to fuck it up. After all, as far as we can see his nose isn't missing the upper bridge but the skin was melted.
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>>81432227
>Jar Jar Binks takes the advisory position
>in the Imperial Ruling Council, stealing food from Sate Pestage's plate, making Mas Amedda trip and fall down the Thousand Steps of the Imperial Palace
>Oopsies! Moy moy so clumsy, As Mademma!
>He survives every assassination attempt because all the assassins keep getting in each other's way
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>>81432230
Holy shit I'm laughing so hard at this.
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>>81432376
>Mr. Magoo's his way to a natural death as an old man after near daily attempts on his life for decades
>>81432227
But did he ever end up having kids with his gf?
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Im 4 episodes into this show and I cant get over the amount of plot armor the main characters all have.

I know "storm trooper aim" is always joked about but holy shit, storm troopers, turrets, ships, etc can never land a hit on them. Or they just dont shoot at them. And if a hit is magically landed, LOL they have shields.

Im also amazed at how casually storm troopers die on a disney channel show.

>the kid is in a storm trooper training facility
>they have cadets training doing shit that actual storm troopers could never hope to do
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>>81432545
was she finger fucked through the force?
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>ywn cuddle with the Seventh Sister on Christmas eve.
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>>81432376
>After the Emperor falls, a battle fleet masses over Coruscant to destroy the Imperial Palace and finish Jar Jar off
>Jar Jar fumbles a plasma ball into the planetary shield complex and creates a unique oscillation that bounces their glassing shots right back at them
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SENATOR BINKS STORYTIME

From Star Wars Tales #20
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>>81432558
If you read the books you find out that is actually an OFFICER TRAINING school.
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>>81432605
The force is strong.
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>>81432558
>>they have cadets training doing shit that actual storm troopers could never hope to do

I really don't know what happened there. But then again, you see those kids in a special class where the cadets Aresko is screening might have the potential of being Force Sensitive. So it makes sense they might have better aiming skills.
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>>81432700
And so, the true identity of Snoke was foretold in 2004!

The End
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>>81432637
Which really only makes it worse. Officers in Star Wars are typically even lazier fuckers.

Pretty much like real life officers, amirite?
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>>81432690
>Jar Jar pulling a Bentsen-Quayle in reverse
Truly a political genius
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>>81432727
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>>81432727
meesa not even gungan and meesa found this offensive
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>>81432558
Well from memory there was that one guy who almost beat the shit out of Kanan in a fist fight.
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>>81432762
Huh?
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So can we all agree yet that the season 2 finale was kinda a huge letdown.
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What do you guys think we'll get from Maul in season 3?
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>>81432861
Vice presidential debate from 1992 election season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRCWbFFRpnY

To this day, still considered one of the sickest burns in politics
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>>81432886
I wouldn't call it a letdown, though I wish the finale hadn't been like 75% about Maul. The actual main event ends of feeling like an afterthought because of it.
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>>81432886
The only part I found disappointing was how they didn't explicitly show the result of the ahsoka-vader fight. If she had survived, we'd have seen her process the final revelation that Vader was Anakin, and we'd get a better emotional payoff; if she had died, we'd have gotten a satisfying, touching conclusion to their relationship. Instead we get some metaphorical horseshit.

At least she didn't become a lumberjack
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And for good measure, here's George R. Binks, also from Star Wars Tales #20

And yes, this was done by Tony Millionaire
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>ANGRY HELICOPTER NOISES INTENSIFY
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>>81432605
The force is definitely strong in her.
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>>81433058

>>81433057
I'm imagining YOOOU FOOOOOOL blaring over loudspeakers
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>>81433096
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You know, considering the whole point of Disney's nucanon is to expunge the sins of the prequels, why are there so many constantly moving lightsaber blades?

Wasn't that one of the big problems with the prequels? Lightsabers out the ass, lightsabers fucking everywhere. TFA does a pretty good job limiting lightsabers but they're fucking everywhere in Rebels.
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>>81432968
It would have been fine if Mauls story had a good conclusion. He gets tossed of the pyramid because he knew Vader was coming and attacked his allies anyway. He was fucked when Vader came down anyway, even if the battle station was operational. Did he really think he and Ezra stood a chance by themselves? No, it was lazy writing and the payoff was shit.
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>>81433153
End
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What do you guys expect to see from Maul in season 3?
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>>81433110
That's not the point of the nucanon, the point was to expunge the shitty EU. More lightsabers = better
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>>81433110
>considering the whole point of Disney's nucanon is to expunge the sins of the prequels
No? Where did you even get that idea?
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>>81433177
>Come Back
>Gain Power
>Lose it all
>Almost Die
>I'll get you next time Gadget
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>>81433177
It'd be cool if Ezra just kinda went away with him for a little while. Have an arc where the crew is looking for him and Ezra is undergoing sith training and kinda realizes it's not what he really wants. That would be cool. What I expect is for Ezra to act like a edgy cunt for awhile and for Maul to job to not! Rom Kota
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>>81433118
The only part of Maul's plan that made sense was conning someone into helping him get the holocron. He went full retard on everything else. Even if he hadn't decided to betray Kanan and Ahsoka way too soon, he already fucked up by sending Ezra up alone because he was confident that after having talked for a few minutes and shared a few things about each other Ezra was now going to be loyal enough and immersed enough in the dark side to just go along with the plan. The moment he realizes what the holocron-temple combo will do, he goes "oh shit I didn't want this, fuck Maul tricked me" and that's without Ezra even knowing that Maul had already turned on the others. So Maul pretty much engineered a scenario that had no way of ending favorably for him. He keeps trying to be Sidious but he's horrible at it and doesn't even realize how bad he is at being a mastermind.
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>>81433184

JewJew's shitty "muh practical effects" copy-pasted reboot of A New Hope

I want to punch this bastard in his smug, smug face

> HEY LOOK GUYS I KNOW WHAT STARWARS IS REALLY ABOUT
> copies whole plot of the old one, not daring to explore new themes because change is bad
> there's still no Jedi
> look a new death star
> the main villain's an actual school-shooter edgelord
> muh diversity
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>>81433288
xD
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>>81433288
Worst part is he got away with it. TFA was a huge economical success and critics loved it, all thanks to Disney's huge media empire. Fuck this gay earth
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>>81433288
Okay, well yeah, that's TFA. But that's not what the nucanon is about. Abrams has no control over canon or any input on projects outside of TFA and to a lesser extent Episode 8.
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>>81433273

He decided to rush things in hope of gaining control over the superweapon before Vader arrived

> sees vader
> sends Ezra to initiate the process
> kills inquisitors
And if the plan had gone right:
> kills kanan and ahsoka
> "ezra im so sorry, your friends are dead. They weren't strong enough to protect themselves from the dark side"
> uses superweapon on Vader once he arrives
> rules the galaxy with a new apprentice at his side

Of course there are a couple of holes in this plan (like what if the superweapon can't target just one person, or Ezra knows how good Maul is at fighting and doesn't believe he tried to stop the inquisitors)
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>>81433288
I was talking to a buddy awhile ago, he said if I didn't like a TFA I didn't like ANH. I love ANH, I hate TFA because it copies it plot point for plot point. It doesn't break new ground, and it kind of makes the OT seem pointless. They coulda done anything, and as long as it was well written it would've been loved. But they chose to make a sequel that rehashed the first movie. I haven't been more disappointed in a movie in a long time.
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>>81433110
>Disney's nucanon

You realize Disney didn't have a hand in the EU being axed, right? Lucasfilm had been planning that well before George sold it to Disney.

>why are there so many constantly moving lightsaber blades?
>Wasn't that one of the big problems with the prequels?

No. Lightsabers were among the things the prequels did better than the OT.


>>81433180
>the point was to expunge the shitty EU.

More or less this. Tough arguably there were some gems in the old EU. But as a whole it was plagued with inconsistency and retcons that weren't retcons but were sorta retcons twice removed on the Solo's side.
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>>81433273
>He keeps trying to be Sidious but he's horrible at it and doesn't even realize how bad he is at being a mastermind.
Yeah, pretty much. Even his Shadow Collective didn't have a strong foundation because he just bullied everyone into it. The moment he was captured the Hutts bailed on him, and the Pykes and Black Sun were already having doubts about the arrangement because it was clear Maul was just using them as a personal army for his personal problems and this had absolutely no benefit for them.
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>>81432558
>d I cant get over the amount of plot armor the main characters all have.

It gets much worse until it gets better, but hang in there. Pic related.
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>>81433288
I wanted to like TFA. Then I remembered that JJ was involved in Lost and I had to hate it on principle.

It was no wonder TFA was just a bunch of set up and unanswered questions.
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>>81432143
Fighting in Endor
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>>81433419
The only group that was even really loyal to him were the Mandalorians and that was thanks to him exploiting their rule about challenging the leader. The others had no reason to stay with him beyond fear. Sidious and even Dooku both know that fear alone isn't the best way to get minions to obey, it's a handy tool when they get out of line but incentive works better.
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>>81432919

Oooooooooh

B R U T A L
R
U
T
A
L
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>>81432919
I like the little "nah bitch, nah" look Bentsen gives him right after he compares himself to Kennedy
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>>81433250

That is fucking AMAZING.
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>then you will die

>haha jk
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>>81433507

>Fighting in Endor

He'd be 72 then. That white guy ain't Rex.
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>>81433288
I liked TFA
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>>81433607

>Okay Master, the kid and the blind guy are gone, it's time to show each other 15 years worth of unresolved 'technique'.
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>>81433665
would it be ok if they invented a thingy that slows down his aging?

they'd just have to be careful not to make it not super gay like the RC novels did
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>>81433782
>would it be ok if they invented a thingy that slows down his aging?
Why would they need to?
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>>81433782
meant to quote
>>81433628
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>>81433628
What do you know about how long humans live in Star Wars or the possible types of health care that can keep their old folks relatively physically active long into their twilight years?
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>>81433782

>would it be ok if they invented a thingy that slows down his aging?

Not really. I don't think the Kaminoans are interested in altering a mature clone's aging process. Especially a clone who's served the purpose they were paid to create him for. And even if they did know how, I doubt the Rebels would dish out what would probably be an outrageously huge amount of credits just for one guy.

>>81433937
>What do you know about how long humans live in Star Wars

Enough to make a logical assumption that they age the exact same as we do. They outright say that Clones age twice as fast as a normal Clone, and that a mature clone takes ten years to make.

Face it son, your headcanon is dead.jpg
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>>81434090
>they outright say that Clones age twice as fast as a normal human

whops.
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>>81434090
>>81434117
>They outright say that Clones age twice as fast as a normal Clone
Well, that's not technically wrong if you had phrased it as "Clones" vs "clones", where the first is "Clones" that everyone knows as the troopers and "clones" as a generic term biological copies
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>>81434146

See >>81434117
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>>81434090
>Enough to make a logical assumption that they age the exact same as we do. They outright say that Clones age twice as fast as a normal Clone, and that a mature clone takes ten years to make.

Aging twice as fast says nothing about longevity, anon. That says even less about what their medical technology can do to keep someone relatively active in old age. Face it, anon, your "facts" are uncoordinated.
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>>81434280

Regardless, it's obviously not Rex.
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>>81433177
I want him to die in an excruciating way.
He took my waifu...
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>>81434444
Regardless it can be whoever they want it to be. They control the horizontal. They control the vertical. They do not even respect your quads.
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>>81434453
> getting attached to this shell of a character who only appears for one season
Never got this meme
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I'm expected to be massively disappointed by the Ezra-Kanan duel.

Maybe it'll take place where he first explained the Force and Ezra will switch back to good for some reason.
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>>81433180
>>81433184
>>81433401
There are still too many fucking lightsaber blades in Rebels. The Inquisitors have fucking double-bladed lightsabers, Christ. It's overkill.

Plinkett is right about how the prequels ruined lightsabers.
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>>81434090

They don't outright say the clone troopers age twice as fast as a normal clone. They say "a mature clone would take a LIFETIME to grow" without growth acceleration. Since an unaltered clone is just a human, this is referring to the fact that it would take as long to grow a clone to maturity as it would to grow a typical human.

The clone troopers have growth acceleration. Sifo-Dyas placed the order approximately ten years before AOTC. Therefore, the first batch of clone troopers is -- at most -- 10 years old in AOTC. So we know from canon that clone trooper growth acceleration must at least double the rate of development to produce an adult human male ready for combat in 10 years.

For all we know, they may actually grow faster than double speed.

That said, this is a galaxy full of all kinds of very old people in very good physical condition. Most of the ones we know are Force-sensitive, so that probably has something do with it, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that a man in his 70s -- or equivalent -- could be kept in fighting condition with the aid of Star Wars medical science. Tarkin was doing well enough at 60 to go on combat operations to capture a Jedi and destroy a comm tower.

On top of that, the Alliance needs every man they can get. If Rex is the equivalent of a 72 year old man and wants to go on a combat op, they're not really in a position to say no.

I'm not saying Rex IS Gramps. I'm saying he COULD be. The slight difference in skin tone is something they can gloss over; perhaps all that time hiding out with the fleet has made him a bit paler on account of less sun exposure and more artificial light exposure.
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watching rebels season 2, I honestly thought I wouldn't like this as much as I do, though it'll never compare to based Fives fucking shit up.

I want to lewdly jiggle Hera's lekku, she's absolute top tier desu. Is she the same girl the clones saved during the Ryloth arc?
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>>81433288
This man would've probably done a better job.
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>>81434519
Most people don't seem to have any problem. There are more complaints about how thin the blades are than how many there are.
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>>81434531
Not sure he's ready for major motion picture directing. Lucas sadly wasn't.
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>>81434519
I thought they all got the same lightsaber more as a uniform than anything. Their spinny ability makes up for the inquisitor's lack of proper sith training
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>>81433177
I don't think Obi Wan is doing much these days other than watching sand, maybe he wants to get another piece of Maul- you know, after he got his legs.

(although the rumors of Obi-Wan: the trilogy might make his involvement DOA)
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>>81434523
As much time as you spent writing that (kudos, btw) you could just show him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcWfipoEz6k#t=2692

Filoni has more say on the matter than one disgruntled anon.
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I hope Vader kills Maul, maybe not in Rebels but just eventually at some point. And preferably in some way that mirrors his original supposed death on Naboo. That way Maul could go out in some tragically pathetic way that seems to be his style, and Anakin's Sith Lord kill count could be bumped up to 3.
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>>81434488
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>>81434519
>Plinkett is right about how the prequels ruined lightsabers.

Except he's wrong about everything.
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>>81433110

>considering the whole point of Disney's nucanon is to expunge the sins of the prequels

Where the fuck did you ever get this idea? No, seriously, where?

You are aware of what got axed and what didn't, right? The purge happened April 25, 2014. The only things that survived are the OT, the PT, and The Clone Wars, i.e. anything George Lucas had a direct hand in.

The prequels are all canon. So is The Clone Wars. They were specifically kept deliberately, not by accident. They didn't try to purge them and "miss" somehow.

The fact that JJ decided to do the whole prequel hate dogwhistle bullshit is because JJ a shit. That's his own damn fault. And I guess it's also Kathleen Kennedy's fault for letting him. Still, the only reason they did that is because they correctly guessed it would make money, not because they're somehow committed to the idea in itself.
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>>81434653
I'd rather it be Obi-Wan to do it, but at this point I'm not even picky. Maul just needs to be put down.
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>>81434570
He would've at least come up with a script that is not copy paste ANH
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>>81434531

This man is your friend! He fights for freedom!
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>>81434701
Obi-wan would be good for the bookends aspect, but yeah I agree that Maul needs to die already.
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>>81434531

Is it just me, or does Dave bear an uncanny resemblance to the Traveling Wisdom Minstrel from oglaf?
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>>81434800
Nose is a little different, but other than that it's pretty similar.
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>>81434687
>The purge happened April 25, 2014.

I thought it happened in 2013.
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>>81434716
A lot of people could have at Lucasfilm. They have some talented enough people. End of the day their original writer dropped out on them and they called in JJ and Kasdan to complete it. They also didn't want to delay production as much as possible. End of the day Kathleen Kennedy signed off on it.

Honestly I think it has more to do with playing it extremely safe, though at the same time I feel, yeah, they didn't have to rip off ANH to do that. The only good thing about the situation is imagining the entire First Order is a bunch of tryhard fuckups just as bad as Kylo's Vaderboo worship. They are probably proud their super weapon was destroyed, just like the Empire's. Their next one will be even cooler! And involve some kind of overly elaborate but still pretty obvious trap!
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>>81434872

Nope.

2013 is when it was announced that the Story Group had been formed and was working on reorganizing the canon.

April 25 2014 is when they finally showed everyone what they'd been working on and announced the creation of Legends.
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>>81432011
I am about to marathon the entire show, what should I know beforehand?
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Seriously though Snoke? Out of all the things you could have called your villain you went with Snoke?
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>>81434899

It's a little more complicated than that.

Lucas and Arndt were already working on a screenplay, but it kept breaking down around the time their female Jedi heroine got off her shitty home planet and used the map to find Luke Skywalker, because he couldn't avoid taking over the whole damn movie after that.

They were still working on it when Lucas decided that it didn't matter, people would hate it anyway just because his name was attached to it, he should just sell it all because fuck it. So he sold Lucasfilm.

Disney took a look at the story treatment, made some requests as to things to change, and brought in Abrams and Kasdan. Arndt said that given the circumstances, he would need 18 months to produce a screenplay that would be ready to go. Disney told him he had 6.

Abrams and Kasdan decided they could do it in 6, and let Arndt go, then hammered out a screenplay in 6 months. And that's the story of how TFA's screenplay was written.
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>>81434931
Don't get attached to imperial waifus/husbandos
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>>81434649
why the hell

what is the purpose of this

why do we need to shove muh oc's into every single appearance that we can? This is some deviantart-tier shit. Not everybody needs to be present at key points throughout the franchise.

what happened to there being a larger galaxy full of people whose stories we may never even see (but document extensively anyway because we're all autistic)

am I the only one that feels this way?
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>>81434931

All the interesting characters, aka Rebels original side characters, are dead/dropped.
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>>81434942
Tell that to Han Solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KECJT7uX6rE
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>>81435093
Because he can. And if you had his job you'd do the same, because that's what that kind of power does to you.
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>>81435009
I know a lot of people who don't like the movie blame JJ, but Kasdan to me was always kinda shit without George to reign him in. I feel like TFA was made with a lot of George's ideas in mind though. Rey especially.
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>>81435093
I see no issue with this, it's not that important what Rex does, guy on endor or not.
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>>81435093
You mean they should just focus on the boring day to day life of, say, a teenage moisture farmer on Tattooine?
Good luck getting any interesting stories out of that scenario.
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>>81435231
>but Kasdan to me was always kinda shit without George to reign him in.

How gone do you have to be for George to be the one to reign you in?
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>>81435166
He's pretty much George's apprentice now so he's earned it
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>>81435093
I'm so sorry for your original Endor old man husbando, anon. RIP in peace, Nik Sant, aka Gramps. You and the rest of the EU shall be avenged.
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>>81435260
Wanting to kill Lando off in the Sarlacc scene bad. He doesn't understand Star Wars as much as George either.
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>>81435231

The problem is that Kasdan can write good dialogue and that is IT. That's all he can do. He needs someone else to do everything else.

George is the kind of reckless idea factory that pairs well with that. Kasdan can steer George's crazier ideas a little, while George gives Kasdan material to write dialogue for.
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>>81435260
Sometimes it's easier to recognize the madness in another. They kept each other in check. Kind of like the odd couple, only less gay.

Probably less gay.

A little bit, anyway.
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>>81435009

>ucas decided that it didn't matter, people would hate it anyway just because his name was attached to it, he should just sell it all because fuck it. So he sold Lucasfilm.

I would've watched it, George. At least you cared up until then!

Sometimes I wish they'd just hand it all over to Dave. But overseeing the cartoon understandably is a big task that requires all his attention.
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>>81435009
>he would need 18 months to produce a screenplay that would be ready to go
>Abrams and Kasdan decided they could do it in 6
This explains a lot, really
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>>81435460
The sad part is how much effort he was putting into TCWs but how little credit he received. People still are shocked to hear how much he did. It's really sad. He deserved better. Hell, he deserved better than whatever the hell was going on in Strange Magic, but then we all did.
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Reminder to anyone doubting Rebels or Ezra's character:

Filoni has the amazing power to create or retcon the most implausible or broken characters and settings and make them compelling and interesting. We saw it with Ahsoka and Maul, we saw it with the Clone troopers, we saw it with Asajj. We saw it with the peaceful Mandalorians. Hell, we've been seeing it with Kanan over the past two seasons. He basically redeemed Anakin into a likeable character, by tempering Movie Anakin with his own flavour of Cartoon Anakin. The man knows how to make you attached to characters and make that attachment pay off.

I have no doubt that by the end of Rebels Ezra will be in a much better place than he is now.
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>>81435460
>>81435509
At least we still have Dave and his TCW team. The guys at Lucasfilm are alright and Disney likes them.
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>>81435520

TCW didn't get good until season 3. It was sure trying, and it had scattered great episodes in season 1 and 2, but it didn't get consistently good until season 3.

That's the benchmark Rebels needs to meet. It needs to get good in season 3. Hopefully it will.
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>>81435509
>People still are shocked to hear how much he did.
Yeah, I still see people who think he just came to a meeting or two and signed off on stuff like he did with a lot of EU projects, but when people say this was George's show, they mean it. He didn't just slap his name on it and call it a day, this was his baby.
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>>81435520
>>81435541

Dave should make a movie.

I mean, he made the Clone Wars movie, but that was before he and his team had learned how to properly do their jobs. Plus it was meant to appeal to children. Without those considerations he would probably be better than Abrams.
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>>81434488
>not falling in love with beautifully crafted art
SS wasn't that, but you get the point, I hope.
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So:

-Rex mourns Ahsoka
-Kanan adjusts to being Daredevil
-Ezra opens the holocron and learns its secrets, subverting Kanan
-Seeks out Maul, hostile but willing to learn
-Eventual Ezra vs. Kanan duel
-Rebels have a base and begin large assaults?
-Inquisitors are pretty much cucked, don't see the point on spending any more budget on them
-Non-Force villain?

-Sabine continues being boring
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>>81435585

I have a theory that TCW is actually Star Wars in its purest form.

Think about it.

Movies, as a storytelling medium, are horribly hamstrung by several factors - need to make back money / appeal to a large audience, need to fit within a certain length of time, and need to spend money on special effects.

Lucas wasn't constrained by any of these factors when he produced TCW. It's far more practical to fully animate a show than create special effects for a live-action TV show or movie He was spending a million dollars per episode to make each perfect. He was often sitting in on meetings and getting very involved in every stage of the production.

And he trusted Filoni to do a good job with it when he wasn't there. This factor more than any others makes me think Filoni is our only hope if we want a proper Star Wars movie again. Problem is I'm not sure the guy knows how to work within a time frame and outside of animation. Those could be big hurdles.
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Finally caught up. Oh boy. Now I can write my fanfiction AU where Ezra agrees to be Maul's apprentice.
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>>81435705

That's not a theory, that's a goddamn fact.
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>>81435762

It's not an AU when it's obviously going to happen in canon.
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>>81435587

>I mean, he made the Clone Wars movie,

Actually, that wasn't meant to be a movie. It is/was what was supposed to be the show's first three episodes. Fox or whatever just made them cobble them together into a 'movie'.

But yeah, Dave should totally do a movie when/if he gets a chance.
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>>81435585

That makes me sad. People shit on George too much, he gave us a lot of things to love.
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>>81435698
>Kanan adjusts to being Daredevil
Lost it.
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>>81435798
Yes, but I can't wait that long.
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>>81435698

you forgot

-Zeb and Kallus continue their lame-ass budding bromance
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>>81435801

4 episodes.

And iirc it was George's idea to stitch them together.

It was the early days. George was still rusty and having questionable ideas. Ziro was originally going to speak Huttese, but then George came into the office one day and said he wanted Ziro to speak Basic and sound like Truman Capote, so that's what we got.
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can I watch this season without watch 1 and 2 and still catch on?
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>>81435923

This was season 2.

Watch Rebels season 1. Honestly, I feel like overall season 1 was better than season 2, even if season 2 delivered some excellent episodes that far exceed anything season 1 offered.

Then watch this season.
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>>81435947
Oh only one? I tried so hard to really get into it, since I missed out on TCW fun, but after 6 episodes I just can't bring myself to care about anyone. And as anon said before, their plot armor really takes all the fun out of it. Gee, I wonder if the gang will get out of this mess. Oh they do. ....But then again I guess the same goes with TCW? Not like you didn't know Obiwan, Anikin and Asoka were not going to make it.
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>>81435798
Doubt it. Ezra seems to have decided that Maul had some good points but I think he's also decided that Maul himself is a shit.
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>>81436013
Yeah, Maul totally blinded and fucked up his Mater/friend/father figure. You think he's going to jump ship and go hang out with him?
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Maybe the holocron contains a red lightsaber crystal

Ezra makes another one, Kanan is horrified, but accepts due to limited resources.
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>>81436013
If anything I think losing Ahsoka is what may have inspired whatever Sith-like thoughts led him to open the holocron. So he may have taken some of Maul's advice in how he thinks and what he needs to do to protect the people he cares about, but I really doubt he'd fall for Maul's "trust me" act again (especially since Maul has already proven he's actually pretty shitty at it). I think Maul's purpose in Ezra's character arc is just to plant those seeds, not to actually become his teacher.
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>>81436043
What if Ezra just learns from Maul then betrays him at the last second? Like becoming a balance in the force. Purple lightsaber wielders are said to use an aggressive style that incorporates both light and dark side teachings.
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>>81436059
>Purple lightsaber wielders are said to use an aggressive style that incorporates both light and dark side teachings.
I still laugh at Stover having come up with that.
>Mace's lightsaber is purple... so that means HE MUST BE DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO THE DARK SIDE AND DAYDREAMS OF MURDERING PEOPLE FOR NO REASON
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>>81435996

TCW has plot armor in full force when it comes to characters who were in Revenge of the Sith, but absolutely everyone expected Ahsoka to die by the end of the series. For the first season or so, some were praying it would be much sooner; she was an annoying little bit for a while there.

The thing is, The Clone Wars didn't have a central crew to follow. It just told various stories that happened during the war. A lot of these center on Anakin and people he knows, but there are tons that don't involve Anakin, Obi-Wan, or Ahsoka at all. Season 1, episode 5, "Rookies" is one of the best episodes the show ever had, and it focused on a squad of clones stationed on Rishi Outpost during a CIS attack. The only character in this episode that you know for a fact has to survive is Commander Cody. Everyone else is expendable.

It was one of the episodes that got everyone to actually sit up and take notice of TCW. The rest of the season did a poor job of keeping the hype going, but eventually the show figured out what was great about Rookies and how to apply that elsewhere. Episodes that focused on Obi-Wan, Anakin, and/or Ahsoka remained common throughout the show's lifespan, but episodes that focused on characters who really COULD die became steadily more frequent, just because they could do more with those characters.

TL;DR: Rebels is Star Wars family-friendly Firefly, with all that entails. TCW is Star Wars teen-friendly Game of Thrones, with all that entails.
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>>81436087
Honestly it wasn't too bad of an idea.
Blue + Red = Purple it's just logical
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>>81435705
This was posted word for word on /r/starwars, hi /u/TwoSquareClocks
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>>81436192
Naw I developed it a bit before posting on Reddit because I didn't want to get torn apart by retards
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>>81436059
>Like becoming a balance in the force.

Except that's kinda what the Jedi are though. If they were light side like everyone thinks they are, they'd never act and be monks in their temples instead of space-samurai peacekeepers. The light side they use to be selfless and serve. The dark they use to act for the greater good.
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>>81433177
Mail and Kenobi, with Kenobi brutally shutting him down when he tries to talk shit.

"Go ahead and find out. I don't care. Because the all-powerful Maul is a failure. It's the TRUTH MAUL! You hounded me without mercy, but you never broke me! You only made me stronger! And even if you kill me, I'll be laughing at you because the last thing I'll think of is you on Mandalore for another 30 cycles - being ground back down into nothing"
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>>81435841
>lame-ass
Only when Zeb's catching
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>>81436249
> the light side they use to act for the greater good
> the dark side they use to act for the greater good
You said basically the same thing for both
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>>81433288
>>81433366
>>81433394

but Anons, you cried when the Prequels were different from the OT. This is what you wanted. This is what you asked for. This is the future you chose.
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>>81436243
>posting on reddit

lel
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>>81436153
There's a sense of logic to it, but applying it to Mace Windu doesn't really work
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>>81436104
>For the first season or so, some were praying it would be much sooner; she was an annoying little bit for a while there.

I admit that I was one of these people. But then Ahsoka started getting better each season. And then she left the order (which was something I figured from the begining would happen if she didn't die). And when it happened, when she walked away from Anakin and the credits ended, I sat quiet for like twenty minutes processing what the fuck just happened. That's when you know that you've made good shit when there's a character that someone starts off hating, and by the end of it all they actually, genuinely care about what happened to that character.
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>>81436304
> he's not a karma master
why do you even bother living you filthy pleb
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>>81436347

We watched Ahsoka grow up. Simple as that.

Like I feel as if she was my younger sister or something, it's weird. Fantastic character development
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>>81434662
Not really. A lot of his larger points are accurate, if also sometimes exaggerated for humor.
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>>81434531

>In order to ensure the security and continuing quality of the Star Wars movies, the person in power shall henceforth be Darth Filoni.

>For a safe and secure viewing experience.
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>>81436437

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN3BntTh7fE&index=10&list=PLDA8AB0D75771F1DA
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>>81435705
>TCW is actually Star Wars in its purest form.
Eh. Though that doesn't speak to quality either way.

TFA was as "proper" a Star Wars movie as TPM (using the original film/s as the standard) it just wasn't very good and rarely interesting. Not unlike the TPM and the other two prequels.
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>>81436508
>ROTS
>Not being good
(you)
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>>81432352
Thinking about it, two things:

1. they weren't going to alter Kanan's model to show damage to the structure of his nose, they just did a simple texture replacement to show the burns

2. they REALLY weren't going to show damage to his nose and horrify the children with kanan having a horizontal chunk of his face removed

Definitely a fwiw. People have played up the damage but it's a huge blink and you miss it moment, which is surely how they got it past S&P.

Mostly it's sad to realize the next time he calls members of his crew by the wrong name it won't be (as) funny.
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>>81436508
Hell, TPM was a decent enough movie too. Never got why people disliked that one. AotC has the shit romance, the shit dialogue, the shit everything else (only the action is good) - what was TPM lacking? except for the obvious fact that it had Jar Jar
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>>81436564
Ian McDiarmid served his ham with a masterful elegance. Otherwise no, I don't think RotS is good or interesting.
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>>81436564
Doesn't surprise me, I mean opinions are all over the place anyway especially with these controversial movies.

For the most part I agree with this fairly common assessment:

TFA was a popular movie that had a solid enough plot (even if it borrowed heavily from earlier movies). It was story strong but sorely lacking in world building.

The Prequels are generally considered rather flawed. The stories are weak, and a good way to describe them is having the proper ingredients but with incorrect proportions and overall very sloppy. But it built the Star Wars universe like a champ. Very alien planets, cool ships, cool droids, cool aliens (for the most part), overall a cool setup for the war. TCWs shows that you can take the Prequel Era and tell some damn fine stories in that setting.

Say what you will about Lucas, the man has a damn fine vision. Execution can get out of hand at times but with the right creative team backing him up they did some of the best work in the franchise. I'm sure that'll come off as controversial for some, but for a "mere kids cartoon" it did a lot with the lore, the characters, and even found ways to make the politics largely work.
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>>81436584
I'd watch the prequels over TFA any day.

JJ and his entourage are useless sacks of shite at best.
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>>81436584
I found the Obi-Wan parts were generally enjoyable, Anakin's was just painful to watch and too often got just plain creepy.

Kamino was very well handled, not too many problems with the dialogue and provided a lot of scenery porn and briefly gave a very convincing look of the clone's creation (the three actors used to show the stages of clone development were a bitch much, should have just left it at two). The scenes in the Jedi temple, however, blah. The missing planet puzzle was so obvious it made Obi-Wan look like a child himself for not figuring it out.
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>>81436707

the movie became less stupid after the asteroid scene. Of course it didn't become stupid-free - we still see stuff like Padme jumping around a droid factory - but it became less painful at least

Kamino was a tad boring but the concept of the clones and the Jango Fett chase were good enough to draw attention away from that
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What is with the way characters talk in Rebels? It's like every time they open their mouths their entire bodies have to move with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl3Q1wkP06o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=082FURQHd1A
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>>81436648
The Prequels also had better music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nk_WHHTQtY
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Why didn't Ezra start picking up sabers left and right? Spare parts for days. And I guess they're going to have Ezra convinced by the holocron that he NEEDS to be tutored by maul if he's going to have to fight more inquisitors?
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>>81436787
I can understand that opinion of Kamino. Mostly I appreciated the view, the scale, and the brief setup for how it was done. The growing vats especially. All those sterile sci-fi columns with little glass bulbs containing embryos. Elegant but creepy.

Lucas had an eye for setting up adverse dichotomies. Inside the complex it was very bright, clean, medical. The Kaminoans were very sedate, serene even. Outside the weather was wrecking ten kinds of hell.

Beautiful and peaceful but also foreboding, threatening.

Rather like the clones themselves. The rows of clean white armor, gleaming in the light, the calm, quiet professionalism - but knowing in the end they were destined to become the first Stormtroopers.
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>>81436870
That's how people talk anon. Hand gestures, movements of the head, switching your weight from one door to the other. Very few people just stand still and talk.
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>>81436870
More exaggerated communication. Easier to read their intentions, alignments and emotions.
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>>81436967
Guess he thought he didn't need it. What I'm wondering is how Vader cut through the lightsaber, handle and 'handguard' without cutting Ezra's hands and/or fingers off.

>>81436981
People don't bob up and down like chickens. Watch any conversation on the Rebels ship, especially Zeb. It's like he's trying to jump out of his chair.
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>>81437012
>Zeb.
He is an animal, though.

The expression is exaggerated, and this is because it's aimed at kids. They miss many nuances from mere speech, but they can intuitively read body language.
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>>81433782
That I wouldn't mind. I'm not sure how likely it is since it would require a diversion from the usual plot, but I would love an episode where they make a trip to Kamino hoping to help the clones.

Rex seems to be very lucky, a lot of the clones are described like Gregor and Wolffe. Okay Gregor was through some shit, but Filoni has mentioned a lot of them have mentally degraded. Effects of their genetic programming and conditioning, they tend to break down in their early old age.

Basically it would be nice to see the state of Kamino during the time of the Empire. Good to see them forced to do something right from their role in screwing over the galaxy and the Jedi. And just good to see them finally take some responsibility for their "products" and treat them like people. It won't reverse the early aging but just something to normalize it so they can enjoy the rest of the time they have left. Some kind of gene therapy or something.

I realize the Republic Commando novel series explored this, but who cares about Traviss. It's still not a bad idea. Rex and his brothers deserve better.
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>>81437040
I guess they don't understand Chopper at all then. I also forgot how animated Zeb gets. From what I remember he does let his shoulders slump until he becomes more active in a conversation. I kinda figured that was just his ego/arrogant speech pattern but maybe it's something all lasats do.
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>>81437012
But...sabers for days!
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>>81437161
Respect, then? A lightsaber is important to a Jedi, and looting it might be considered taboo among them.
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>>81437183
He would just be...recovering them. Yes. Perhaps they could help a new generation of jedi. As long as he doesn't let Hondo know.
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>>81436870
That entire episode with Tarkin in Rebels was absolutely fantastic. Filoni did a great job in Tarkin's entrance and introducing him to an audience that had no idea who he was and what he's capable of.
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>>81432545
This looks lewd instead of sad.
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Was there ever any explanation why the Republic suddenly decided to model their ships and uniforms after the guys that nearly wiped them out 3000 years ago?
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>>81434942
I have the vague feeling that was one of the things from Lucas they left it.

Haha, no, I bet that was all JJ.
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>>81437339
Perhaps because they're a practical design, based on however space works in Star Wars?
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>>81436648
Here's to (You)
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>>81437351
If they are a practical design, why do other designs even exist?
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>>81437339
Because a knife works better than a hammer if you have to ram someone.
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>>81437353
Oh shit, that was for >>81436655
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>>81437339
Because the people working on STOR only hired voice actors and just copied everything else from different eras without thinking about it.
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>>81436584
TPM had some weird pacing going on, but I never got people saying it was a bad movie.
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>>81437351
>>81437366
And uniforms?
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>>81437400
They're sexy
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>>81437339
I would like to think that they begged the Mon Calamari to build them a fleet and they refused.
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>>81437339
I'm going to be honest, it was pretty damn obvious that the plan was for the Sith Empire to WIN and the Jedi to eventually overthrow them anyway because the Sith are a shit.

So obviously after that Imperial trappings become de rigueur in the Republic and it got passed down via history.
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>>81437392
Plinkett sure nitpicks a lot, but makes many fair points about how the plot makes no fucking sense at multiple occasions.
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>>81432144
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>Dream I'm on a party ship in space with loads of friends, family and acquaintances
>Place gets locked down with no exit for some reason.
>People milling around, claiming spaces to sleep until lockdown is stopped
>I'm walking around looking for somewhere to relax
>See a fuck ton of Sith show up on the ass end of the ship
>Run and hide in the ventilation shaft
>Don't even tell anyone they're all gonna die.

Am I a coward /swr/?
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>>81437634
Yeah.
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>>81437634
When did your teeth fall out?
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>>81437634
You'd get betrayed by a filthy Neimoidian in the end anyway.
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>>81434523
I really do hope the old man does become Rex.
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>>81437634
Yes, you are. I wish I could dream.
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>>81437634
>>81437756
>>81437695
>>81437684
>>81437668

>Implying you'd try and throw hands with Sith Warriors

You're no coward anon, you're a quick thinker.
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>>81437421
>BioWare dev in thread
Any source on that, pham?
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Imagine how good it must feel for Matt Lanter to be the voice of Vader along with James Earl Jones.
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>>81432352
THIS IS HOW A SABER WORKS:

(Or at least NEVER fails to be able to answer a saber related question/situation/interpretation presented by the show/books/etc that I've seen)

Plasma encased in a magnetic energy field. Bam, the end. The sabers clashed and the sparking energy you see is the plasma bursting/attempting to burst free as their fields are compromised/warped for brief moments.

I never have any issues applying anything in the works with this interpretation, it answers how they can function just like swords and stay embedded in stuff, the force seem to create on their own when impacting things etc etc.

I'd field anything specific but I'm going to bed atm. I'll check to see if anyone has any thoughts on this though when I'm up.
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>>81432558
>Im also amazed at how casually storm troopers die on a disney channel show.

Actually like most of the time you can see them in the shot still...moving/groaning to show they're still alive. Sometimes it's just a foot but look at that foot move!
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>>81437923
"Oh yes, it was great. I cummed buckets" -Matt Lanter

Classic Matt.
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>>81438106
He's the Raimi of voice acting
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>>81437392
Weak characters, bad dialogue, weak plot, weak acting.
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>>81438253
:^)
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>>81437392
A lot of the dialog was excruciating and the plot meanders through three planets before eventually ending back on the first one, for pretty much no reason.

People have made an effigy out of the Prequels and let their hate get away from them, but the Prequels are, to greater or lesser extents, not very good movies. As shown by all the EU and New Canon shit that came out of them, the basic ideas were solid. But as movie in it of themselves? Not great.
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>>81438398
Why do you hate my movie, /co/?
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>>81438443
Because it's shit
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>>81434531
No you fucking retards. Dave Filoni directed the Clone Wars movie, the only thing that is worse than the prequels. He's a hack.
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>>81438443
because contrarian funposting makes my dick hard
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does anybody have a webm of chopper doing a sheev spin on the cargo freighter in rebels season 2?
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>>81438240
>"Ahsoka, why did you leave?"
>"Where were you, when I needed your dick-sucking lips gently kissing my genitalia."
Wasn't this a family friendly show, Matt.
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>>81436584
TPM is a horrible movie. The plot doesn't make any sense, the characters aren't likable, there is no sense of adventure, no humor, no tension and half of the characters are cartoons. The villain is a generic bad guy with no lines and no personality and there isn't even a main character you could root for. The dialogue in TPM is just as atrocious as in AOTC and ROTS and there are so many plot holes that even the most die hard SW fan can't suspend their disbelief when watching Phantom Menace.

The fact that you're defending this piece of shit movie shows that you're a young nostalgia fag who never watched TPM with a critical eye.
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>>81438484
But him as a producer would be great.
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>>81438484
That was nearly a decade ago, before he and his team had any experience. That movie was also a mess of Season 1 episodes thrown together because Lucas wanted to introduce Ahsoka (and the series in general) on the big screen.

Once he got off his feet, Filoni and his team turned TCW into essential Star Wars viewing, and he is starting to work the same magic into Rebels.

Filoni easily deserves another chance at making a movie.

I know Filoni did concept art for TFA, but I doubt any of it was used. In the Art of TFA book, he drew concept art of Felucia which looked neat.

Thing is though, I don't think Filoni actually WANTS to do movies. I think he and the LSG are happy for him to work in his little bubble of small screen adventures. He actually probably has more freedom that way, and can actually produce a lot more content in a Season of episodes than a movie, and he has previous experience so he knows how to make a Season of episodes work.

So while Filoni "gets" Star Wars, and probably could make a great movie, I think I am happy, as he is, to stay in the realm of tv.
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>>81438398
I don't like TFA much either. I'm willing to acknowledge both TFA and the prequels as being somewhat shit.
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>>81438535
>I won't leave you again
>then you will get die alongside those faggots you roped in, you backstabbing bitch
How the fuck Matt roped James into saying that line with him is anyone's guess.
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>>81438602
Jesus christ, Matt is a punk.
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>>81433607
Wait, snips didn't die in the last episode?
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