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So what are we expecting from this one, /co/?
My predictions:
>8/10 in quality
>$1.2bil worldwide
>95% RT
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>8/10
>$1B worldwide
>88% RT
>95% Audience RT

Spider-man, Black Panther, and Scarlet Witch will probably the spotlight. Russos continue to be based.
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>movie gets something like 85% RT

>BvS whining gets even worse

Begun, the shitposting wars have.
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>>81399008
Are you implying shitposting consolewars didn't being years ago?
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>>81398652
>>8.5/10
>>$1.5B worldwide
>>92% RT
>>99% Audience RT
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>>81399067

It'll get worse.

Like an order of magnitude worse. Man of Murder/MCU TV Movie shitposting is bad, but these are two movies with similar concepts going head-to-head.

This is designed for next-level console war shitposting.
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>>81398652
>7/10
>65% RT
>lower side $1 bil
Bubble's gonna pop. BvS killed the genre
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>>81399176
There is no bubble, and capeshit is not a genre.
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I'm feeling pretty optimistic. Winter Soldier is in my top 3, and as long as the focus remains on Bucky, Steve, and Tony I don't think the bloated cast of characters will hinder it much at all.
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I'm pretty psyched about it. Everything i'm seeing in the trailers looks cool. The action looks good. Black panther looks fucking gnarly. I'm surprisingly interested in seeing how spider-man is in this movie and I love the costume. The story is interesting and hopefully isn't the shit show the comic civil war ended up being, and holy hell it looks like Iron Man isn't shithead evil fuck fuck man. It has ant-man being fired on hawkeyes fucking arrow....holy shit that makes me so happy. And it doesn't look to be nothing but 'clever remarks' Whedon style. which i honestly don't hate but I much prefer the slightly more serious tone the russo brothers brought to winter soldier. The right mix of cape craziness and seriousness.
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>>81399376
>Winter Soldier is in my top 3
What's everyone else's top 3? I know WS is in most people's but I would personally put Iron Man, Avengers and Guardians above it.
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>>81398890
This. I think it might even become the best mc film because infinity wars will likely be an orgy with more "awesome moments" than substance. CW might reach the perfect homoerotic balance.
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>>81398652
Probably best or second MCU film because Russos. Though it depends on Falcon too, the less screentime he gets the better.
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>>81399961
in no particular order: WS, GOTG, IM1. Ant-man is a close contender.
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I think it's going to end up being the best MCU film when it's released. How long that holds for who knows. I trust in based russos. I'm just hoping that Zemo is amazing.
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>>81400236
Since Gunn says it is, I'm willing to believe him because he's not the type to give such high praise undeservingly. All the actors seem really proud of this one too, unlike their reactions after Ultron.

Every time I read or listen to an interview with the Russos, you get the sense they really get what makes these films work and how to utilize each character perfectly.
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>>81400166
Everyone seems to have enjoyed Ant-Man far more than I did. I mean it was fun, definitely in the top half of the MCU, but Corey Stoll was so completely wasted and the improvised humour felt more like an Anchorman vibe than anything else.
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>>81398652

Considering The Winter Soldier has a 70% score on Meta-critic (only a few points ahead of both avengers movies) not much.
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>>81400562

>Corey Stoll will never ever play Lex Luthor

It hurts.
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>>81400689
I like how you went with metacritic. What with its less than a fifth of the number of reviews that rotten tomatoes has.
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>8/10
>1.3 B worldwide
>89% on RT

I cannot wait for this Black Panther. His costume is probably the best inthe MCU. I just hope Boseman doesn't fuck up the accent
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>>81400236
I didn't know Helmut was in a video game
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>>81399146
>This is designed for next-level console war shitposting.
And this shitposting... is to go even further beyond!
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>>81398652
Black Panther will try to murder Vision for both his Vibranium body and the Mind Gem.

Because he is always a cunt.
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help me out in this one /co/

Sony = Marvel studios

Microsoft = Fox

Nintendo = DC

is this right ?
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>>81399961
1. WS
2. GOTG
3. Ants
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It COULD be another good-to-great Captain America movie, but everything all advertising suggests it's another corporate Disney Marvel quip-and-slugfest. And considering that they have the comic book Civil Warto base themselves on, then outlook not so good on the complex narrative front.

But it has a chance. It has some good talent behind it.
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>>81398652
Low hopes but not too low.

With Spider-Man in, there'd be a nice rise in expected box office.

Quality rise, seems too much they have a huge ensemble cast that might be a clusterfuck in the long run.

Keeping fingers crossed.
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>>81398652
I could give fuck about box office or RT. Who gives a shit? I just want a movie I like. I'm cautiously optimistic...the Russos seem to really get it but I'm concerned that executive meddling will cause problems, especially given that the Russos didn't want anything to do with a CW adaptation.
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>>81401089
isn't Microsoft trying to be the monopoly?
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>>81401269
>Who gives a shit
The state of the board if both movies receives a rotten. It would be a shitpost fest like 2010 when call of duty and battlefield were whenever their Christmas releases would fuel fanbase attacks and they came out with similar scores and similar flaws.
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>>81398652
What if it gets a lower score compared to BvS? What would happen?
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>>81400562
Maybe because the writer for Anchorman wrote the movie.
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>>81402303
Wait, really? I didn't even realise when I said that. I was just going off Rudd's obvious improvised moments.
That's hilarious.
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pretty sure it will be a massive BO hit, because it feels more like an Avengers movie (but without the hack Whedon)
personally i hope they won't drag the Civil War out, not saying that i only want 5 mins (like in BvS) of fighting each other but i hope they solve it at the end of the movie
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>>81398652
I think it'll be good because of based Russos, but if it fails I'll probably be burnt out on cape films for a while.
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>>81400379
>Every time I read or listen to an interview with the Russos, you get the sense they really get what makes these films work and how to utilize each character perfectly.
Exactly this. I had good level of doubt like anyone else but each interview makes me trust them more.
>Russos
>"Make cape great again"
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I honestly think that it's going to get slightly better reviews than it would have coming so soon after BvS. Something like a 5% RT score bump due to a few critics who are on the fence but go the film's way due to the fact that at the very least it isn't Snyder's mess.
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81% RT Critics
95% RT Users Just because SPIDAHMAN!!!
165,000,000 Opening Weekend
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>>81398652

>Cap dies
>Tony says "it wasn't worth it"
>Sam Wilson becomes the new Captain America
>post-credits scene reveals the whereabouts of the Hulk
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>>81402755
>Sam Wilson becomes the new Captain America

Nah... It will be Bucky
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>>81399961
WS, Deadpool, BvS
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It'll be great nonetheless
Marvel is far Superior to DC-trash!
Hopefully we get some more Captain America/Bucky and Black Widow/Bucky moments c:
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>>81403393
It'd be the smart move. If Steve is kill, the only way to pacify the backlash is replacing him with a fan fave. I love Falcon Cap in the comics, but he doesn't have enough tenure to have any established storylines to work from yet.
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>>81398652
>6/10 quality
>1.3 billion WW
>82% RT
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(You) are a faggot
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=The9xzfVabc

Some new footage.
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>>81404003
>dat Panther at the end
HYPE
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>>81404003
>treating Cap's husbando like that
over the line
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>>81404026
For some reason Bucky being handled roughly does things to me.
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>>81404059
You might be a sadist.

Me too.
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>>81404073
You might be right. Him being slapped around by Pierce while shirtless and then strapped into the chair was pretty hot too.

Who do you think gets the obligatory shirtless scene this movie?
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>>81398652
>7.8/10
>$1.4bil
>86% RT

Critics will like a cohesive story that has complex characters...audience will just be hyped to see spoderman
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>>81404098
Hard to tell since there are so many characters this time.

Maybe we'll see Vision's robot abs.
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>>81404128
Who haven't we seen yet? I feel like it's Falcon's turn.
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>>81404140
From what I remember, so far we saw Cap, Bucky, Thor, Ant-Man, Star Lord, Quickslav and Tony.

Hawkeye or Falcon are next.
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>>81404098
>>81404236

Hopefully Wanda
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>sales = quality
>RT = quality
Yep, this is a Marvel Studios thread.
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>7/10 in quality
>$800mil worldwide
>72% RT
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Question: how much of the money goes to Trump's campaign?
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>>81399008

Why put a name when it's easier to spot you? Are you trying to hide in plain sight while collecting your checks from Marvel?
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>>81404345
>>81404488
>>81404558
We know you're salty because BvS is the blunder of the century, but please stop shitposting like that.
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I'm just oddly apprehensive about this movie. Winter Soldier was just an amazing ride with surprising intrigue.

This movie can easily be a disaster with bloated cape fights. I still would guarantee it's better than AvS though. I know the Russos can at least do a proper narrative.
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>>81404345
If you retarded DC fag actually read OPs post you might have seen that he put quality beside sales and RT.
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>>81398652
>5/5 quality
>Between $800 mil and $900 mil
>87% Rotten tomatoes
>93% audience score
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>>81404573
>>81404622
Here's your 1.jpg
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>>81404634
>Between $800 mil and $900 mil
>not more than a billion
Brand loyalists gtfo
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>>81404345
Alright, what IS an objective metric of quality?
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>>81404652
Me, obviously
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>>81404650
The title is Captain America, not Avengers. Also, it'll have competition.
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>>81404604
>AvS
Ant-Man v Superman?
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>>81404656
Exactly: individual opinions.

>>81404661
Go back to your BvShit.
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>>81404604
>This movie can easily be a disaster with bloated cape fights.
I will never understand marvelfaggots and their distate for action scenes in action films.
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>>81404731
I like action scenes. I also like action scenes that aren't just blurrs. Winter Soldier did a really good job of it.
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>>81404722
>quality 5/5

>must be a DC fan because he said it wouldn't break a billion

console war fags can leave
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>sperging aboug critical scores and box office performance
Superhero shit needs to be quarantined off from /co/ like My Little Pony.

This type of shitposting doesn't belong here.
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>>81404722
>>81404693
Other than the hero vs hero crap, I wonder what other BvS elements they will ripoff this time?
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>>81404821
Is this b8 or are you really that retarded?
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>>81401089
Swap Nintendo with Sony and you'll be accurate.
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>>81398652
mad
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>>81398652
Of course it'll be better put together than BvS but let's not kid ourselves that it will have a conflict of ideologies like the comic.

The conflict is really about muh parents vs. muh Bucky. Cap has only played straight man to Tony in all their movies together.
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>>81398652
>8/10 in quality
>$1.8bil worldwide
>96% RT

1. it has RDJ Tony Stark
2. it has Spider-Man fighting Avengers

It will be the highest grossing Marvel film yet.
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>>81406295
Bucky is just the last straw.
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>>81406320
It's more like a clash of personalities than beliefs.
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>>81404661
>Also, it'll have competition.

What? Every movie opening that week is a limited release.
the week after it faces Money Monster and Kidnap.

It doesn't face any serious rivals til the last week in May when X-Men comes out, by which time it will have doubled the box office of BvS.
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4.5/10 in quality
$889mil worldwide
68% on RT
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http://howmanydaystill.com/its/captain-america-civil-war


SOON.
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>>81406449
wishful thinking
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>>81406449
heh heh heh
dc butt mad spotted

how are you loving your cinematic universe
HAHAHAHA
its so over for those guys
the investors are fucking furious
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8.5/10 in quality
$1.4bn worldwide gross
89% RT, purely because the number of contrarians who absolutely have to give a film a poor score is increasing.
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>>81406581
Nope I believe critics will actually go easy on this one because of BvS (which deserves every bit of its drubbing).
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>>81406624
i agree. BvS pushing its film infront was a poor mistake on their part all around.

had they waited until AFTER CW, the critics would have been pretty harsh on captain americas film

but since the critics got insulted there will be their own form of "damage control" where they can say "see, we are willing to rate good movies up!"

civil war is in a good place right now
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>>81404345
Well, I put my own prediction of quality alongside the critical reception and box office for that reason.
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>>81401089
Nintendo = Fox - was in competition for a while, got left way behind and now does its own thing separate from the big 2 in closer competition with each other

Microsoft = Marvel - On top by far, and only really became a thing in the last fifteen years.

Sega = Sony Pictures - Did alright for a while before being utterly crushed.

Sony = DC - Up with the other big gun, been a fan favourite for a very long time and held up by loyalists
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>>81406624

I'm not so convinced to be honest. The contrarians are the issue, not critics in general.

Critics will rate it, contrarians will slate it. Like with every film ever, you get those fucking idiots who HAVE to be a negative nancy, just for the clicks.

Bit like that Armana Miller.
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>>81406295
>that it will have a conflict of ideologies like the comic
The conflict of ideologies in the comic was shit. Everything about Civil War in the comics was shit
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>100 percent rt
>9.9 imdb
>3.4 billion
>9 Oscars
>Noble prize win
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>>81402617
yeah, BvS bombing so hard critically will definitely make CW look better in comparison

guarantee several of the review bits on the RT page will reference BvS
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>>81404345
live butthurt in action here folks
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>>81406884
>Microsoft = Marvel - On top by far
If you mean the company in it's entirety yes, but since this is consoles wars, DC should be Microsoft since PS4 is kicking the shit out of Xbone.
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>>81406884
>Microsoft = Marvel
So what will be there bomb that gets surpassed by the DC movie leading to them being left in the dust? Dr Strange?
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>>81406703
I think BvS was fucked either way.

Had they waited until after, they would have been seen as a lame copy of something we already saw.

I think you're right that going before will boost CW's score, but they really didn't have a good play with such a shit movie.
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>>81398652
It'll probably be enjoyable but I have a feeling people will overrate it like Winter Soldier. It'll have some vague political message and people will call it a "political movie" just like WS being called a "spy thriller."

Still wish we got another Captain America solo rather than Civil War.
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>>81409873
I've never seen anyone on this website call TWS a "political movie", is this some kind of meme? Many on /co/ just think it's the best MCU movie so far, which is not an outrageous opinion to have at all.

Wanna talk overrated MCU movies? Then complain about The Avengers which has a 92%/8 score on RT and is in the top 250 movies ever on IMDB.
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>>81410002
Back when TWS came out, a lot of people were claiming that it was some sort of serious spy movie. I do think it's legitimately the best Marvel movie but I still think it's overrated, mostly because of the fight choreography.
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>>81400562

For me, I just really identified hard with Antman's struggles to put his life back together, having a high degree, and being told by all his normal family friends who've never struggled job hunting a day in their life to "just get a job!" like all you have to do is apply yourself and the opportunities will rain on you.

Like I don't have child support payments to complicate everything like he did but that sort of opening really hit me hard and drew me right into the character.
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>>81400973
Apparently he looked up accents and dialects found in the areas where Wakanda is supposed to exist
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