Going to try to get into this.
I've heard the Thor films are shit, should I skip them?
>>81296090
You can watch Thor 1 just so you know what the hell is going on.
The first 2/3rds of the movie isn't bad.
You can skip Thor 2.
Do not skip any thor movie.
Dont skip none of them, familia.
As meh as the thor movies are, they are all related to infinity war, as both of them feature infinity stones. Also, thor 1 and captain america are importants for you to fully enjoy the first avengers movie.
Skip Ant-Man, no matter what any one says.
First Thor is eh and second is eher. Possibly skip both unless you just really enjoy Hemworth's Thor.
Winter Soldier and Guardians are the GOAT movies of the MCU.
First Cap flick, first Iron Man and Hulk are all pretty good.
Iron Man 2 and 3 are both just all right.
Avengers is good for the pure fact of them all being in a film together. AoU is all right and doesn't deserve the hate it got. It's a mess but an entertaining one.
Am I missing any?
Don't skip them, that's lazy
They are utter shit, they have no value, forget what these faggots are telling you, they SUCK
Still watch them
>>81296090
None of the movies are un-watchable, if you don't have much time tho, just watch the main contiunity of the story; Iron Man 2 - Thor 1 - Avengers - Winter Soldier - Ultron
>>81296090
Thor 1 is fine.
Skip Thor 2.
>>81296216
A shame you fucked yourself at based ants.
Dont even bother with the mcu of you aint gonna watch its best flick.
>>81296090
If you have the free time to even debate on whether you should watch all of the MCU, I feel like you might as well watch all of the MCU.
>>81296271
It was awful anon.
>>81296090
>should I skip them
Unfortunately no
If you do you will miss the 2 seconds of after film footage which is whedon's way of connecting films that have almost nothing to do with each other together
>>81296090
Continuity-wise, Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 are the two you can skip.
Quality-wise, Iron Man 2 and Thor 2 are the only truly bad ones. AoU gets disproportionate hate.
>>81296301
Why are you lying?
>>81296319
>Thor 2
>skippable
I dunno m8, I mean you can argue all the Dark Elf shit isn't important to the major continuity line but what happens with Loki pretty much is.
>>81296319
Would anything even be different if Iron Man 3 never existed?
>>81296318
The only two after-credit sequences Whedon did were both for Infinity War, which is a direct sequel to the movies those after-credit sequences were in.
>>81296338
I tell no lie.I really really did not like it. I went into it expecting something great and was instead left with a bad taste in my mouth.
>>81296090
As much as I don't like Thor 2, it's kind of important for later stuff.
Thor is perfectly "okay" though
>>81296365
I mean the character arc for Tony is pretty important.
It doesn't really contribute to the overall "plot" though, not in any meaningful way we've seen so far. It's pretty clear that Shane Black was given his own sandbox to play around in, considering from what we've heard that movie had the least MCU studio interference.
>>81296216
How can you think AoU is "alright" but be revulsed so hard by Ant-Man? It wasn't even a bad movie
>>81296365
It sort of sets up why Tony goes all "defense-crazy" for AoU which would lead into CW
>>81296365
Extremis might get brought up again later but other than that, no.
>>81296216
>Skip Ant-Man, no matter what any one says.
Kill yourself
>>81296378
Shit taste
>please watch shitty movies if you want to be a good Marvel fan
>>81296429
But in Iron Man 3 is about him getting over the defense-craziness that the events of The Avengers put in him.
>>81296200
>muh continuity
Iron Man 1, Both Captain America films, Guardians of the Galaxy and Antman are the only good films. Rest are shit. Avengers is overrated garbage.
Just watch them all m8.
>>81296090
>>81296200
>>81296388
Only Iron Man 3, it makes no sense later.
>>81296090
I would say just skip Iron Man 3. But if you watch the Thor movies and just cant contain your autism I guess you can skip it. I never had a problem with any of the movies besides IM3
If you skip shit don't get upset if you don't understand something
>>81296271
>Dont even bother with the mcu of you aint gonna watch its best flick.
I wouldn't even argue with that but ant-man was still so shitty I turned it off
>>81296816
Shit taste
The Thor films are fucking great
>>81296849
What was there to like about that movie? I was expecting it to be pretty funny but I can't remember a single good joke in the entire thing. I actually can't even remember any bad ones either, the whole thing was just 2 hours of mediocre tv movie crap
>>81296864
I like the Tor films because they're basically dumb 80's movies transposed to modern day. The first one is the spiritual sequel to goofy shit like the Masters of the Universe movie and Beastmaster 2, and The Dark World reminded me of the bizarre sci-fi/fantasy blend movies like Krull.
It probably helps that I've never gives a single wet fuck about comic Thor, so the fact that they pissed over the legacy of the comic character doesn't mean anything to me.
>>81296090
Skip everything but the avengers
>>81296216
>>81296945
Shit taste
>>81296090
Skip nothing.
I am a bit of the exception, but I liked everything from the MCU so far. most of them have after credtis, by the way. What I will put between paren
Watching order:
Iron Man 1
Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
(A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer (Marvel One Shot (those are short films)))
Thor
(The Consultant (Marvel One Shot))
Captain America
(Agent Carter)
Avengers
(Item 47)
Ironman 3
(All Hail the King)
Thor 2
Captain America 2 Winter Soldiers
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers 2: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
>>81296963
>It probably helps that I've never gives a single wet fuck about comic Thor
Comic book Thor fans are fucking weird. I knew one once and he was a pretentious asshole who probably didn't actually own any comics, he just maintained this image of being into norse mythology and heavy metal.
>>81296641
>Iron Man 1, Both Captain America films, Guardians of the Galaxy and Antman are the only good films. Rest are shit. Avengers is overrated garbage.
IRON MAN, INCREDIBLE HULK, CAPTAIN AMERICA THE FIRST AVENGER, CAPTAIN AMERICAN THE WINTER SOLDIER, THE AVENGERS
THESE ARE THE ONLY GOOD ONES
ANT-MAN, IRON MAN SEQUELS, THESE ARE MEH, FORGETTABLE TRASH BUT OK IF YOU LIKE THE CHARACTERS
THOR, THOR 2, AOU, GOTG
THESE ARE SHIT MOVIES FOR DIAPER BABY DAGGOTS
>>81296090
Just watch them all and make up your own opinions, there's no /co/ consensus on any of these movies.
Maybe skip Hulk because it's more or less non-canon after the actor change, but I guess Ross shows up again
>>81296963
I think this is the key to enjoying the Thor films. I don't care about comic Thor and I think the movies are fun for what they are.
I can understand how a Thor fan would probably be let down, but for me they're decent action comedies.
>>81297158
It's not even that, when I was little most of the comics I read were West Coast Avengers and Thor was never a member of that team. When I think of "my" Avengers idea of team brick, I think of Wonder Man and not Thor.
I guess I would probably be pretty mad if they did the Thor movie treatment to Wonder Man, but he's fucking Wonder Man. There's a better chance of ScarJo and Elizabeth Olsen knocking on my door and inviting me to a threesome then Simon ever getting a movie.
>>81296090
Just watch everything and make your own opinions. Don't listen to /co/
>>81297244
>Vash17
Bro.
>>81297063
>He likes MCU flicks
>>81297129
Now, if you really enjoy the MCU up to the first Avengers movies, you can add the Marvel Tv shows to the mix.
Be warned, though, the first half of the Season 1 of Agent of Shield is really dull, it only picked up after Captain America 2). Either way in this case the watching order become:
In this case the watching order becomes:
Iron Man 1
Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
(A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer (Marvel One Shot (those are short films)))
Thor
(The Consultant (Marvel One Shot))
Captain America
(Agent Carter)
Avengers
(Item 47)
Ironman 3
(All Hail the King)
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 1 (episode 1 to 7: "The Hub")
Thor 2:Dark world
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 1 (episode 8 to 16: "End of the Beginning")
Captain America 2 Winter Soldiers
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 1 (episode 17 to 22: "Beginning of the End")
Guardians of the Galaxy
>DareDevil Season 1
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 2 (episode 1 to 19: "The Dirty Half Dozen")
Avengers 2: Age of Ultron
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 2 (episode 20 to 22: "S.O.S.")
Ant-Man
>Jessica Jones Season 1
>Daredevil season 2
>Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3
The Agent Carter series is set in 1946. you can basically watch it at any point you want, once you have seen the first Captain America movie.
As you can see, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. as the particularity to stick to the events of the movies that are released in the middle of the season, which can make the viewing a bit strange if you only watch that show without remembering/knowing the event of the movie they refer to.
>>81297572
This.
Don't listen to the retards that have watched every movie some 3 or 4 times. The first time you'll be watching them you'll enjoy them enough to justify your time. If you think they are meh, skip them in the next runs.
There have been no outright BAD MCU stuff, so I'm sure you'll find some joy in at least some parts of every entry.
>inb4 shill
I wouldn't skip MoS or BvS either if the next DCEU movies turn out great, as shit as these two are, I'm sure they'll be important.
>>81297572
>(Item 47)
What was the point of that short?
I mean, the show try to establish to new scientists being recruited by Shield, but their ability to make work the Alien weapons never amount to anything. Not even AoS make use of those events.
>>81296216
>Skip Ant-Man
No. I'm not into cape movies, but this was genuinely a better cape movie than most.
>>81297725
Wasting Lizzy Caplan, who could've been a great Wasp.
At the time I don't think they were ever expecting to do AoS or any show, so that's how they breathed a bit of extra fluff into the universe.
>>81296319
>Iron Man 3
This is honestly the only movie that could be skipped if you want to skip. Thor 2 was genuinely bad and felt like nothing (Loki was the only good part, surprisingly).
But watch Ant-man, OP.
>>81297800
I liked both IM3 and Thor 2.
>>81297761
I feel like Item 47 must ahve been some sort of glorified backdoor TV pilot, but Caplan got Masters of Sex and Titus Welliver got Bosch so it fell through.
>>81296945
I thought the slav guy was funny. Also the monologue from the mexican guy. It didn't make me die from laughing, but the movie felt like the IM1 movie. It felt more genuine than a money cashgrab like AoU/IM3.
The only MCU thing I couldn't sit through was Agents of SHIELD. Dropped it in the middle of season 2.
I'm a huge MCUfag, but for the life of me I can't bring myself to give a shit about AoS.
>>81297871
Nice try DCuck
>>81297833
Those shitty jokes from Portman's friend and the weak ass villain (RIP 9th Doctor's US career) lowered my enjoyment. It also felt kinda nothing and Loki was the only good part.
>>81297922
Not him but you don't have to be a DCuck to not like AoS
>>81297871
Same here. I was astounded that it didn't maintain my attention - I was fully prepared to gobble up whatever crap it threw at me.
It's just an utter non-entity. I have a friend who watches it almost out of masochistic interest and we always have a good laugh at whatever nonsensical and unimportant bullshit it continuously seems to peddle.
>>81297947
A real marvel fan would watch everything
>>81297927
I thought Anthony Hopkins getting super angry and shouting at people in both movies made them more than worth watching.
>>81297998
Bullshit. There are fucking limits. Agents just dove straight over and beyond.
>>81296378
This all 100% lies.
>>81297871
This.
>>81297947
Also this.
>>81297998
No him, but if you don't enjoy something don't force yourself.
Anon there >>81297685
>I wouldn't skip MoS or BvS either if the next DCEU movies turn out great, as shit as these two are, I'm sure they'll be important.
kind of have a point, but the specific thing about Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D is that it has almost zero impact on the movies. It's a bit like the E.U. of Star Wars. Don't expect any of the star wars movies to refer to any of the events of the books and comics.
It's perfectly legit to be a movie-only MCU fan.
I do actually enjoy AoS, but I understand not everyone get into it.
>tfw there are people on /co/ who don't watch all the MCU movies
>>81298111
Oh yeah, I agree. I was just talking about not skipping movies. AoS is more worth it to watch in-between movies, but then it's more of a AoS marathon than a MCU marathon. I'd leave it for last.
>>81296200
>Don't skip none
>>81298063
>>81298111
Your loss.
You'll miss out on the references and not witnessing the true marvel universe.
>>81298192
congrats big man
>>81296090
>I've heard the Thor films are shit, should I skip them?
Just watch them. Where else do you got to be if you contemplating watching the entirety of the MCU so far?
>>81298153
>tfw there are people on /co/ who don't watch Agents of Shield
>>81298111
>it has almost zero impact on the movies
You mean literally zero.
>>81298277
One could argue that it provide a legit explanation as to how Fury managed to get an Helicarrier outta nowhere.
>>81298251
>tfw there are people on /co/ who do
>>81297871
I couldn't get into AoS or Jessica Jones.
JJ could have been a 90 minute movie instead of a full season and it would have been better.
>>81298251
ANTS!
Prove me incorrect, /co/
>>81298302
Oh Anon, how wrong you are. She pulled a reverse Felicity. Daisy is best girl now, not even joking.
>>81298307
No it fucking couldn't. Purple Man's powers are completely broken, and they have to establish some mystery for the noir to show. Every escape he did was earned, and every error they made had a good intention behind it. People don't just decide to make the wrong call.
>>81298339
There is no shit tier in the MCU.
>>81298339
Why do people hate the first Thor? Yeah, the last half was meh but arrogant Thor was GOAT.
>>81298362
>Daisy
>Best girl
That's notFitz
>>81298339
Iron 3 is fine. It's true that it's ignored by the rest of the MCU, but it's just a case of not muhs.
Jessica Jones is Mid-Tier.
Switch AoU and Avengers. If you look past the novelty of the first Avengers movie, AoU is better in every single way.
I'd also bump Daredevil down a tier.
>>81298388
It's not a bad movie at all. It's only real "problem" is that it's an Earth-based romcom, which has nothing to do with the quality of the movie by itself.
>>81298339
Age of Ultron was far more interesting and entertaining than Hulk, swap those two.
Iron Man 3 in shit tier? Are you autistic? Shane Black has never done anything deserving of shit tier. I'd put that solidily in good.
Otherwise great breakdown.
>>81298379
This is something I would agree to a year ago and counter it by saying that MCU doesn't have god tier either. But then Daredevil came along.
>>81298362
Jessica Jones did not need to be 13 fucking episodes.
That shit dragged on way too long just to have Jessica break his neck in the end anyway.
>>81298458
>Daredevil could've ended sooner if he kicked Fisk's ass in the art gallery
The story goes through explaining why it doesn't happen sooner, dude. The whole first 11 episodes they are trying to save Hope. When she dies, they give up and kill PM. What's wrong with the strategy?
>>81298339
Iron Man 3 should be at least Mid tier for being an obvious "Shane Black: The Movie"
>>81298339
>Prove me incorrect
Meme off. You and me bro let's go!
>>81298458
And Cap could have ended Winter Soldier by killing Kevin Spacey after "subtly" implying he is villain.
>>81298543
>>>/tv/ is 23 boards to the right, anon.
>>81298339
IMO:
God Tier:
>Captain America: The Winter Soldier
>Guardians of the Galaxy
>Iron Man
High Tier:
>The Avengers
>Avengers: Age of Ultron
>Daredevil
>Ant-Man
>The Incredible Hulk
>Thor
Mid Tier:
>Captain America: The First Avenger
>Agent Carter
>Iron Man 3
>Jessica Jones
Shit Tier:
>Iron Man 2
>Thor: The Dark World
>Agents of SHIELD
>>81298492
The difference is Jessica knew who Killgrave was from in the beginning and had several chances to take him down before then and screwed the pooch.
Matt didn't meet Fisk face to face until around episode 9.
>>81298565
>Kevin Spacey
>>81298637
Yeah, and she wanted to save hope from spending 24 years in prison. Did you really pay no attention?
>>81298339
agents of shield isnt shit anymore after hydra popped up its been pretty good
>>81298673
in all fairness, none of the characters were likeable outside of luke
>>81298698
Don't tell lies. I watched that shit well after the TWS plotline took effect and it's still awful.
>>81298721
how is it bad
>>81298709
So? That's kind of the point. Jessica was never a likable character. Neither is Purple Man or the Hogarth or most of the cast..Also c'mon, Patsy was alright, black junkie dude became alright as well, every other character got their comeupance anyway.
>>81298339
>>81298739
The whole thing is a terrible attempt to ape Joss Whedon's writing style, with constant "witty" banter that isn't witty at all, and trying to be self-aware. The characters are flat as hell (I couldn't describe either of the black characters on the team if I tried), and nothing interesting ever happens.
It feels like it was written by a TV Tropes user.
>>81298801
>Jessica Jones above anything
>>81298801
This is pretty good.
>>81298801
That's being generous to Iron Man 2 and Thor 2.
>>81298821
examples nigga use them and there's only 1 black guy
>>81298739
Not that anon. But if anything it got worse. There were no hints that Ward was a turn-coat. They might have picked up the pace but that was the first sign that they were literally just pulling storylines out of their ass.
If anyone has anything that proves me wrong I'd be genuinely happy to hear it. It seemed awfully ham-fisted to me.
So it was dull and stupid for good measure.
buy yourself an action figure for every film youre going into
along with a Slurpee
DO IT RIGHT
YOU GOT THIS
>>81298884
he was a hydra agent why would he slip up?
>>81298786
so, why would someone care about hope going to jail if noone cared about her or liked her anyway?
>>81298913
He wouldn't slip up but I would expect the narrative or characterisation to be cleverly constructed so that with hindsight I would be able to appreciate what they were building up to. If that makes sense.
>>81298915
What do you mean? Jessica would care. And she did. I don't have to agree with her to be engaged.
It's not like she made bad calls, she was just greedy because a human life was at stake. You know, as one should be, regardless if you like the person or not, even.
>>81298884
He killed the "clairvoyant" against the orders.
>>81298975
they kinda build up to it when they're talking about sky's past but trust me season 2 and 3 are both better than they have any right to be
>>81298975
As in... oppositions between his character and characterisation - or maybe appreciating specific conversations or scenes that take on a new meaning. Stuff like that - that makes us go... "that sneaky fuck" rather than "I guess Ward's evil now".
>>81298884
>There were no hints that Ward was a turn-coat.
Well, he wouldn't be that good of a spy if there were, wouldn't it?
>>81299035
I'm sorry anon. Maybe you're right but people told me that about the half after Winter Soldier and whilst it wasn't it wasn't complete shit... It really didn't have the chops to compete with other crap I need to watch.
I tend not to watch a huge amount of television series at any one time.
>>81299058
see
>>81299046
I really don't buy that it was a change they knew they were going to be making.
>>81298884
>He was a bit distanced from everyone and a bit psychotic. I get that that's a common trope in CSI-type stuff, but normal people don't behave like that in military organizations.
>He went against orders killing that dude in vegetative state.
>He had 5 or 6 episodes in a row where the b-story was dedicated to his relationship with each team member where he was assessing them one by one.
>He pulled the trigger on May (the only major threat) after no longer being under control from Lorelei, like 1 second after
The last one was the major indicative since it was kind of ambiguous as to what happened first, but if the shots were meant to be chronological, then he shot under his own will. It's not Arrested Development level clues, but it's definitely there.
>>81299093
I'm gonna stop posting because I seem to be incapable of constructing sentences today. Sorry about that.
>>81299124
>I really don't buy that it was a change they knew they were going to be making.
They actually knew about it by the time they started shooting episode 2. Which introduced the story of the well, which is kind of a big deal for Ward.
Post your favorite MCU movie scenes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxRKwKJI_uI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ7y3pEjNUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRYefn-0YlY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g1um446Bis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_jRQBGKPaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQzlEimV4mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqIBGEcKhGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E486XjhYHh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXPOl6EjbWgBut seriously, the entirety of TWS.
the Thor movies would be better if they were just live action adaptation of the old Hostess ad comics
>>81299150
Thanks for replying anon. You just gave me a small reason to think about checking it out one day. I still thought it was insipid but maybe it got a bunch better in later seasons.
I don't watch Arrow, Gotham, Supergirl or any of the other Cape shows so I've got nothing to compare to it.
I guess X Files? But I can't imagine Ward competing with my Mulder loveahem, I mean Scully of course
>>81296090
>skipping Thor 1
Thor 1 is pretty good, don't skip it. Thor 2 is garbage and should probably be skipped if you're gonna skip anything.
>>81296090
I only watched Iron Man 1&2 before I saw Avengers. It didn't affect my or my brothers enjoyment (I'd even forgotten Black Widow was in IM2, since I only saw it once). My mum and dad hadn't seen any of the previous movies and liked Avengers.
Honestly skip the Phase 1 movies except for Iron Man and Avengers. Then skip Iron Man 3 and Thor The Dark World. Watch Daredevil S1 and 2 and the first half of Jessica Jones instead.
>>81299194
Since I'm trying to prove AoS actually got better for >>81299263:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa7y4hdvmH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t57NF82Eixo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MUKXSEBBZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tITKWsvPSns
These are about chronological. Notice how Skye starts by getting her ass kicked and gradually becomes better and better. It started shitty, there's no denying (and it could've done the same WS story but better even), but it's gradually becoming a lot better. It's highs reach Flash levels, I'd say, and they don't have one quarter the relationship drama.
>>81299150
>>He pulled the trigger on May (the only major threat) after no longer being under control from Lorelei, like 1 second after
Shit, I never noticed that.
>>81299194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxDQh_-vJss
>And then he was never this cool again for the rest of the movie
>>81299427
He wasn't cool, he was edgy
Why do people like this Ultron? I preferred the one that was more human, it had him more scary.
>>81299407
Yeah, a few people attributed that to choppy editing, and thought that it might have been a goof, but he lingers on his look after he does it, and she notices it.
Some people speculated that him or May might be a mole by then.
>>81299327
>skipping Cap 1
>>81296090
For Civil War you should watch
>Iron Man
>Captain America
>Avengers
>Captain America 2
>Avengers 2
>Ant-Man
For Infinity War
>Iron Man
>Incredible Hulk
>Thor
>Captain America
>Avengers
>Thor 2
>Captain America 2
>Avengers 2
>Ant-Man
>>81296216
Ant-Man was the most fun of them all, you joyless fucksponge
>>81298872
There were 2 during season 2.
Just watch them all in the order of release you stupid faggots.
>hurr civil war was stupid because this, this, and this
I guarantee that'll be you. And it'll be because you were a movie skipping faggot. I bet you skip chapters in a book.
>>81299035
As someone who watched Season 2, I will strongly disagree with the notion that it was good.
>>81296090
Just watch all of Phase 1 and Phase 2 how hard is that? How have you not seen any yet? like Iron Man 1 or something?
>>81299911
why?
>>81299952
Because he doesn't actually watch AoS. He's just saying that because he wants it to go away because he doesn't want to feel compelled to watch this canon material.
>>81299833
>I bet you skip chapters in a book.
How do those people even live with themselves? I don't understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cR6Xa6fEAg
>>81300072
I like to imagine these people going on /lit/ and starting a thread about which pages can be skipped in some book.
>>81298492
Daredevil has a better reason for it then JJ
>>81298801
>Iron Man 3 being higher then 2
2 was just a weaker 1 and it wasn't that bad. 3 was fucking shit
Thanks for the help, anons. I'll watch all the films + Daredevil.
>>81300195
Also Jessica Jones. It's honestly not bad at all. It's nearly as quality as Daredevil. If black people upset you, don't watch it I guess. I'm pretty sure that's why no one on 4chan likes it.
>>81299998
Fuck off.
>>81299952
It tried way too hard to be clever. None of the characters had any character beyond a single trait or two (like Fitz' brain damage) and they just barked one-liners at each other. I can forgive it in The Avengers, because at least half of those ones are actually funny, but here it's just painful.
Like this:
>>81298302
Characters make decisions based on what the plot demands instead of what makes sense. Ward showed a glimmer of potential when he turned out to be HYDRA, but his personality just shifted from generic agent to generic evil.
>>81299998
Why are AoS fans always so obnoxious about defending it?
>>81300292
its really clear that you've never seen the entire season so here is your you
>>81300185
3 had coherent plot structure. 2 was a bunch of random shit happening and then it ends.
>>81300322
Because 9 times out of 10, the people who shit on it didn't give it an actual chance past the first half of the season where it got good.
>>81300292
>ward generic evil
>>81299998
>>81300343
>No one who watched AoS could actually think it's bad
>>81300400
says the guy who probably never saw it
>>81300425
What else do you expect from a dump phoneposter.
>>81300322
because the people who hate don't usually know what they're talking about
>>81296200
Eh, seems like all you need to know from Thor 2 is "The aether is an infinity stone and very powerful"
Did the first Thor even have an infinity stone? I thought Loki didn't have his staff until Avengers
>>81296216
>Disregard the popular opinion on Ant Man and listen to me, a single anonymous poster on a Christian egg painting image board, instead
>>81296318
The after credits scenes are an MCU thing, not Whedon's
>>81300528
You faggots. The entire point of The Avengers is that it was built up over time with each movie before it, introducing characters and allowing you to gradually suspend disbelief. If you were to watch The Avengers without seeing the first 4 movies, it would just be an elaborate cartoon about aliens.
>>81300528
The first one had Loki, who was the villain of the Avengers
>/co/ in 2022
>"Hey guys, I want to get into the MCU. Where should I start and is there a list somewhere? How should I watch the tv shows?"
Just like muh funny books!
>Agents of SHIT
How much of it did you watch?
>episode 3
Then how can you make any proper judgement of the show as a whole?
>insert "I'm in" image
>mrw
This is basically every discussion of AoS
>>81300728
>Windows Phone
>>81300728
I watched the first season and the first half of the second. It wasn't good.
If it takes longer than that for a show to get good (especially when the seasons are that long), it's not worth it.
>>81300728
what annoys me are faggots like>>81300292
who use buzzwards and cherry picked webms instead of making any actual criticisms
>>81300816
why?
>>81300770
Samsung actually, picked the image off a thread and was to lazy to change file name
>>81300816
Same here, I watched 30 episodes of that shit and it still didn't impress me so I just dropped it.
I'm not going to force myself to watch it just because it's part of the MCU. I'll just watch the movies and the Netflix shows.
>>81296090
Thor 1 is watchable. An entertaining 7/10.
>>81299003
i meant in reference to anon saying the series went too long. if the only reason the series went long is to save hope, why wouldn't they be dissatisfied with the story? they don't care about her, so having episodes with the purpose of saving her would be tedious
>>81296216
>Skip Ant-Man, no matter what any one says.
The only movie worth skipping is Incredible Hulk.
>>81300906
>watching Jessica Jones
>>81301014
Still better than AoS.
>>81301027
>>81301027
That's not saying much. Fucking Gotham is better than Agents of Shit.
>>81300992
The shit taste is strong with this one.
>>81301083
gotham is a pile of shit and you should feel terrible for liking
>>81296090
Loki scenes make it worth it.
>>81296090
None of the movies should be skipped, but many do not warrant more than a single watch.
>>81296216
Fucking this.
>>81301115
Gotham is perfect.
It's grimdark enough to be batman.
It's campy enough to be a comic book.
All the actors are great (s1 bruce was an annoying shithead, but s2 bruce is A+)
Subplots are wrapped up quickly
The worst parts of the show have been Barbera and Fish.
>>81297189
>there's no /co/ consensus
>/co/ consensus
wasted potential for /co/nsensus
>>81301492
every character is generic and boring
>>81300992
Wow, kill you'reself kid. You should skip Guardians so when all the cosmic shit hits earth you can be just as clueless as the Avengers are.
>>81297189
> it's more or less non-canon after the actor change,
Please stop posting any time
>>81301641
>Gordon is a pretty boy whiteknight who is forced to bend his morals for the greater good.
>Barbara Gordon is a shitfuck crazy cuntfuck of a bitchshit psychopath biidng her time
>Penguin is a long-game criminal mastermind just now coming into his own, but needing to find his feet, oh look a pun
>Riddler is a paranoid schizophrenic Dexter type who struggled with social anziety, but not that he's full on Riddler mode, he's calculated.
>Mob Bosses are honor-bound types
>Fish is a crazy ass tryhard wannabe Boss
>Dr. Hugo Strange is a twisted researcher
>Harvey Dent is a bright young idealist DA
>Freeze has a tragic backstory at least
>Alfred is a well spoken BAMF
>Bruce is totally going to splooge inside Cat
>>81302809
like I said awful
>>81300360
To be absolutely 100% fair, Agents of Shield took their fucking sweet ass time to get good. I don't regret sticking around and people who shit on it really don't have any idea what they are talking about, but the fact that it did not have strong start is entirely ABC's fault.
>>81302882
What's your choice of serialized television show, based in a type of supernatural or fantasy setting, that meets your requirements for innovative and interesting characters?
You're bound to have a show you respect in that manner, otherwise you're just a troll.
>>81300859
Because that's over 20 fucking hours to sit through in the hopes that it MIGHT get good. And when I'd already passed the point people said it got better at, I can no longer trust those people when they say "No, it gets better!"
>>81300828
How are those buzzwords and not actual criticisms?
Just watch Guardians of the Galaxy, Winter Soldier, and Ant-Man. That's all that's watchable.
>>81303165
>but the fact that it did not have strong start is entirely ABC's fault.
How is it ABC's fault and not the writers'?
>>81304552
most of them aren't true at all like ward being generic villain when most of season 2 is dedicated to giving him redeeming virtues
>>81296090
The Thor movies are two of the weakest links in the franchise, for sure. But I thought they were both okay and Thor 2 is sort of important to the build up for Infinity War.
>>81304624
ABC hired the writers
>>81301492
Is Fish gone for good now? I stopped watching because she made me cringe too much.
ITT MCUfags refusing to admit Marvel can fuck it up too
>>81301159
This. I watched Thor 2 and Iron Man 3 once in theaters and never went back.
>>81304604
>No Iron Man 1
>No Avengers 1
>>81305276
She's currently in some sort of stasis in Indian Hill, Hugo Strange's facility underneath Arkham. He's having Victor Fries assist him in resuscitating the dead major Gotham villains, including her, Jerome, and Galavan.
skip all of them and watch some good movies based off of comics instead
you only have a limited amount of time in your life friend, why waste it on shit films just because they share a universe with some slightly above average films?
Watch American Splendor, Heavy Metal, Dredd, Rocketeer, Road to Periditon
all much better than anything in the MCU and none of them require you to watch 5 uninspired shitty blockbusters that share the same canon
>>81306171
No denial. They just didn't fuck any of their movie so far.
>>81306422
For free or for a fee?
>>81306396
And Mysterymen, dude.
>>81296090
1. Watch Captain America: First Avenger
2. Watch the trailer for Thor
3. Ask yourself if you want to watch Thor
>>81296365
>Would anything even be different if Iron Man 3 never existed?
Two of the early episodes of Agents of SHIELD wouldn't have based the Centipede serum on Extremis. That's about it.
>>81306927
They're like the fucking comics, aren't they? If you want to understand the story, you have to watch everything.
>the same old mistakes
>>81296090
Just watch them in release order! IT'S SO SIMPLE BUT I KEEP SEEING THESE THREADS ALL THE TIME JUST WATCH/PLAY/READ THE SERIES YOU'RE INTERESTED IN IN RELEASE ORDER YOU DON'T NEED CHARTS AND GRAPHS AND A SPECIAL LIST JUST DO IT IN RELEASE ORDER FUUUUUUUUUCK
>>81307178
>fuck quality, continuity is sacred!
>>81307217
Except the MCU has managed to work out both Quality AND continuity, resulting in something unique.
>>81308231
Paid or unpaid, intern?
>>81296137
>You can skip Thor 2
Nah, watch the first act with all the cool Asgard shit. Stop when you notice Sif and the Warriors 3 being dropped from the movie one by one.
>>81308285
I am student. I am in engineering. Why do you ask?
>>81308585
Thor 2 is fun to watch. And the final fight between Thor and the dark Elf is kinda cool.
>>81308629
he's implying that you must be here to do paid or unpaid shilling for Marvel. he thinks this because he's a bitter DC fan mad about how horrible BvS is being received.
>>81308629
>unpaid
>young and naive
>future McDonald's employee
My condolences.
>>81308698
Oh, hi!
>>81308698
>anyone who thinks the MCU is not perfect is a bitter DCfag
There must be a lot of them in this thread. Nice console war anyway.
>>81308663
I wouldn't call it fun at all. It's the only MCU that I found too boring to finish. IM2 was a worse movie, but at least it held my attention.
>>81309000
You're a bitter DC fan. >>81308698 said so.
>>81297725
It's a pilot of sorts for the SHIELD show. Agent Carter had a one-shot too.
>>81309000
I just want a Thor movie that feels like epic fantasy. I get the romcom angle sold the first movie, but surely Marvel can deviate and trust in their brand image to carry a fantasy Thor film?
>>81309081
No need for that.
>>81309614
>No need for that.
That's what I told him, but...
>>81296090
I hated Thor 2, but it's important to watch for the overall story. Not every movie is amazing, but they all add to the overall story.
>>81296265
agree, thor 1 is essential to understanding the plot of avengers.
>>81310136
OH COME ON
>>81310136
>>81310174
It's not essential. Loki is so badly written in The Avengers, it would probably make it less enjoyable to have seen a better version of him.
>>81296090
They are all pretty much the same movie. 6/10 b action movie, alot of jokes and okay fights. Villains and story are pretty shit. If your ok with this you'll enjoy them.
>>81310393
But Loki is already a gaylord in Thor, isn't he?
>>81310495
He has more interesting motivation. In Thor, he genuinely doesn't believe Thor is ready for the throne and conspires against him. He's slightly malicious, but he's doing what he thinks is right and doesn't intentionally harm Odin or Thor.
In The Avengers he just wants to rule Earth and is a comic foil to Iron Man and the Hulk.
>>81310833
He's the best part in Thor and just about the only good part in Thor 2.
I kind of want to watch them all in order now. Wonder if I could find them all through means I have.
