>On Saturday I wrote about the poor Friday-to-Sunday hold that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice suffered in China this past weekend, thinking that Chinese movie audiences were unique in their haste to forget about the widely panned superhero mashup.
>But after studying the film’s global release results, I realized that I couldn’t have been more wrong.
>Things were far worse in North America than in China. You couldn’t have emptied North American theaters where the movie screened faster if you’d yelled ‘fire’ in the middle of the auditoriums.
>Indeed, according to the figures I’ve compiled from Boxofficemojo.com, Batman v Superman has set a new record for the worst Friday-to-Sunday drop for a superhero movie release in modern North American box office history. In dropping 55% from its $82 million Friday debut to its $37 million gross on Sunday, it pummeled all prior records for weakness in theatrical staying power. It even beat the nearly universally reviled and now long-forgotten Fantastic Four reboot, which dropped a comparatively modest 48% across its opening weekend in the summer of 2015.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2016/03/28/batman-v-superman-sets-record-with-worst-friday-sunday-drop-for-superhero-pics/#304cb4fa6d72
Not a real article, the link takes me to the Forbes front page.
>>81205448
Disregard this post, I suck cocks. The link worked the second time I tried it.
>>81205448
You're fucking stupid.
>>81205448
Nah it's real
>>81205448
It's real, try disabling your adblocker.
(I know, Forbes is cancer)
>>81205380
All is as it should be.
Where were we?
>>81204815
>I have a 40 hour a week job, friends who I get together with often, and a gf of 6 years
>none of that matters when my precious DC is defiled and violated
Got any proof?Wow, she's only 6 years old? Naughty
>>81205380
http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/03/26/bvs-spoilers-zack-snyder-on-the-ending-and-forming-the-justice-league
I can't tell if this guy is talking out of his ass or if he's being genuine. Can someone whose better at reading people tell me?
>>81205380
For the sake of comparison, Deadpool had a 10% drop from Friday to Saturday and actually ticked upwards a bit on Sunday.
JUST
>>81205380
>what is Easter
>>81205380
All this is true BUT it's also the only Superhero movie to open over the Easter holiday.
All movies that debut on Easter weekend suffer these horrible Friday to Sunday drops. Furious 7, which topped over a billion worldwide, also suffered a drop of over 50% from Friday to Sunday. Easter Sunday is death for any movie.
Now the reviews and word of mouth clearly aren't helping the film in the slightest, but the biggest reason it dropped like it did is because Warner decided for an Easter release rather than something much more sensible. Clearly they're fucking retarded and should have opened after a public holiday that's only ever produced 1 movie that's made over 400m worldwide TOTAL.
> release Easter weekend
Is there any worse holiday to release on than Easter? I'm seriously wracking my brains here. Even Xmas day has people going to the cinemas with the family for Xmas movies.
>>81205528
>>81205491
Forbes will always give you a 5-second interstitial
if you have an adblocker it just gives you a quote from some cunt
>>81205380
there goes a billion
the domestic 4-day (including $24 million of previews on Thursday night's limited release) comes to $166,007,347, for a fairly ordinary $142,007,347 3-day total (Thursday's release appears to have now been rolled into Friday's totals, but was previously reported separately; it's possible they just wanted to claim that record Easter opening from Furious 7 to sound popular and drive fresh audiences in, but it obviously has the downside of creating a record fall)
that indicates a "good" first week total of $213m; a 4 week of 399 and a 90 day of somewhere in the region of $425m
if it falls like Man of Steel that's going to be significantly lower; a 63% fall in the second week, 46% the third, 49% the fourth, then such small gains after that until the end that it only adds 5% to the 4-week total
that would put BvS on something like $413m domestic at 90 days; about 30% up on MoS at the same ticket price
however MoS actually enjoyed a very strong opening weekend; even accounting for the BvS previews the Friday-Saturday-Sunday picture is one of steady drops; if subsequent weeks are more directly in line (rather than proportionally) with MoS, then this 4-day is 35% of BvS' total, meaning a domestic final more like $275m
the mean of these may be a more likely result, something in the range of 371 to 344; unless the international is significantly stronger, a billion is a distant dream
>>81206096
Read the article
>Meanwhile at Disney
http://www.wired.com/2016/02/star-wars-gives-disney-its-best-quarter-in-company-history/
>>81207227
Disney 2stronk
>>81207102
>there goes a billion
It might still make a $1 billion but it will struggle to it. The biggest reason why BvS wont make one billion is it flopping in China.
http://chinafilminsider.com/china-box-office-batman-v-superman-fails-pack-punch/
BvS will barely make $100 million in China where they were expecting somewhere over $150 million. BvS will have to make up that missing $50+ million from somewhere and since it has opened everywhere in the world, there is nowhere else.
>>81207414
BvS only made 38 million more than MoS opening weekend and MoS didnt even make 300 million domestically.
I'm curious to see what kind of legs BvS has in the US, if it will be worse than MoS.
MoS only made 63 million in China.
>>81207414
This. Also, bvs is expected to make less than Antman in china. ANTMAN > BATMAN and SUPERMAN
>>81207414
Deadpool's succes and major Hollywood movies flopping over there hopefully ends the chink box office meme and we can get proper movies again instead of this neutered PG-13 shlock.
This warms my hateful, blackened heart. I hope Snyder is fired for this.
>>81208021
Snyder shouldn't have talked shit about ANTS
>>81207890
>MoS didnt even make 300 million domestically.
BvS has Batman in it and he is still a big draw. The last 2 Batman Nolan movies still made $1 Billion worldwide.
>MoS only made 63 million in China.
China's movie business is growing exponetially like 20% - 30% every year. This makes year-to-year comparison hard for the Chinese box office because of its explosive growth. Just one month ago, "Mermaid" broke $500 million at the Chinese box office which would have been impossible a few year ago. $63 million in 2013 is equivalent to about $125 million today 2016.
>>81205779
This man is mentally ill
>>81207227
>John Boyega's first film for Disney pushes the Mouse to their best fiscal quarter ever.
I'll take set for life for 300!
>>81205625
Are you seriously carrying over a conversation and asking for proof because I said I was emotionally invested in fictional characters, to which you told me to get a life, to which I said I already had one. Sorry breh.
>posting personal info on 4chan
>ever
Pick one
Inb4 I'm called a liar
Oh you got me so good.
>>81208333
Same here.
>>81208460
I find it funny how all I did was state facts with no opinion on the matter one way or another, and you misconstrued them as an attack and are now attempting to defend them
>>81208652
Hayden Christensen and Jake Lloyd say 'hello'
>>81208905
First, John's a better actor than either of them. Second, Hayden is most likely set for life. Third, Lloyd probably is too, although he clearly has been traumatized by his experiences in Phantom Menace.
I was never a big company war bastard but seeing DC's big break die like this just makes me stroke my MCU fanboy cock. I hate it but its making me do this
How will the BD sales factor into the numbers?
>>81205380
>For A Superhero Pic
So it was still a complete success that will warrant several more sequels?
>>81208333
>>81208759
Goyer too.
>>81207043
Snyder really wanted to emphasize the Jesus metaphors.
I really hope Snyder gets booted after this.
>Batman v Superman is having a terrible opening weekend, is getting mediocre reviews and is on track to do worse than the Fantastic Four reboot
>Meanwhile Deadpool is now the highest grossing R-rated film EVER and is set to surpass the sale of X-men: DoFP to boot
What a bizarre world we live in.
>mfw FB normie friends defending it like its some super deep movie and Marvelfags cant see how deep it is
>>81210207
>More people excited over a talking tree in space than the 3 biggest superheroes of all time
I'm glad DC is getting BTFO.
So sick of Batman everywhere
>450 Mil opening
>Another month of no similar action films
>Destined financial failure
This is why nobody reads your blog anon.
>>81210227
>coming out of the theater with friends who were aware of the negative reception
>"Well it's obvious critics only hated it because they killed Superman"
>>81210483
Zootopia is still in the game bitch.
>>81210483
Everyone who was interested has already seen it, the rest of the normies will avoid it like the plageu because of how shit everyone says it is.
>>81210524
"Critics just dont know how to react to a movie that isn't Marvel!"
>>81210483
YFW people think Hardcore Henry is a better movie
http://youtu.be/gYKeQczkFfM
>>81210483
>Zootopia and My Big fat greek Wedding constantly nibbling at it taking a few million here and there
>Hardcore Henry taking a bit of the action fans and Barbershop 3 getting the comedy fans
>JUNGLE BOOK on April 15th
>Huntsman Winter's War to push it from the top 5
>CIVIL WAR: MAY 6TH.THE DEATH KNEEL
Batman v Superman will be out of major theatres withthin 7 weeks.
Jesus Christ, it's now 28% and 72% on Rottentomatoes.
It just keeps dropping.
>>81211056
7.4 on imdb, even with all the fake accounts.
Good. The worst thing that could happen is that BvS ends up leading to a Transformers-tier DCEU, with high sales but shit storytelling. Hopefully investor confidence is damaged enough, and Suicide Squad is a good enough movie, for there to be substantial changes in the DCEU.
The drop is completely in line with previous Easter weekend openings.
>>81210737
Already a 94% on RT with 16 fresh and 1 rotten.
>that feel when I actually enjoyed the movie
It's not a masterpiece by any stretch of the word but I'm just not seeing how it's getting all the flak it's getting.
>>81208333
You can rejoice.
He starts shooting JL in two weeks.
>>81211346
Imagine the shitposting. It's going to be glorious.
>>81211056
>Jesus Christ, it's now 28% and 72% on Rottentomatoes.
>It just keeps dropping.
Just
the worst super hero movie of all time
AND THE WORST FEMALE CAST
>>81211221
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Hardcore Henry took the movie world by surprise. It's the first movie of its kind and it could come out of nowhere to do gangbusters. That's essentially what happened to Avatar (the Cameron movie).
Batman V Superman is truly, the Donald Trump of comic book movies!
>>81211433
>THE WORST FEMALE CAST
Can I just quickly say how terrible Gadot is. She only had a handful of lines and she's still absolutely atrocious.
I just can't see how she's gonna carry a solo film.
>>81211434
>years and years of movies shot entirely in FP by every shit studio in Hollywood
I don't want this future senpai.
>>81211433
Boy you aint kidding.
Between Gal "is a shit actor" Gadot playing Wonder "why I'm in this movie" Woman and Amy Adams doing pic related, "Set It Off" this movie aint as far as it's use of it's female actors goes.
I have a question. Why is the Wonder Woman in this movie basically Catwoman 2.0? I'm at the part where she tells Bruce that she borrowed his gizmo and put it back into his car.
I didn't think Wonder Woman was known for her stealth, hacking, and technology savy side?
>>81211530
She threw away the spear because she didn't want anyone else to use it because it could kill her boyfriend
How the hell do you fuck up something lke Batman vs Superman? I could have done a better job!
>>81211604
Doubt it
>>81211500
$166 million is a record breaking opening weekend! Somebody needs to work on their fact checking skills.
>>81211568
What was she even doing in this movie, other than being a walking ad for her own movie? She's in that sweet spot of more relevant than Hawkeye in Thor but less relevant than Falcon in Winter Soldier or Black Widow in Iron Man 2.
>BvS - $82M Friday dropping to $37M Sunday
>Furious 7 - $67M dropping to $33M
>Clash of the Titans - $28M dropping to $13M
>Scary Movie 4 - $19M dropping to $7M
Seems like pretty standard drops for Easter weekend opening
>>81211586
So throw it away in a place anyone could stumble upon?
>>81206158
They probably made a mistake in not direct marketing to churches this time. around.
And I feel gross just for typing that.
>>81211808
this familglia. It was a retarded decision to launch the movie on Easter, but the box office drop does not reflect a lack of popularity for the movie.
>>81211568
>I didn't think Wonder Woman was known for her stealth, hacking, and technology savy side?
You do know Wonder Woman was a spy right? Like they even worked that into the old tv show by having her work as a government agent. Also she could not break the encryption but knew Lex had damaging info on her and was following her. All of that shit is in her wheelhouse.
>>81211500
critics really need to get their head out of their ass if they think any bad review was going to stop anybody going to see a movie titled Batman V Superman.
>>81212008
Christ, this bitch is so gross looking.
>>81211791
Another issue I have.
When Superman first stops Batman, when he takes down the batmobile, how come Superman didn't then go and stop the other truck? They were obviously firing too and with Supermans super hearing he should have been able to heard all of this.
>>81211433
"the worst superhero movie of all time."
I think you forgot about a particular movie there buddy.
>>81212159
Here's my question related to that. Why devote several minutes to a fight scene in where Batman ultimately fails o steal the Kryptonite, only to then have him steal it later anyway...off camera?
One of the biggest things that normies were disappointed by was probably the fact that there was no real Batman vs Superman.
Any and all fighting between the two heroes was just forced drama that ended on a stalemate because MARTHA.
Honestly, I wanted some serious fighting but I doubt anyone can argue that Batfleck gave the fight his all either.
>>81212162
At least that had a good tie in song rfom R-Kelly and Arnold was a hoot and a half.
>>81212162
Hey fuck you man. Batman & Robin was actually a fun cape movie. Even if they bastardised Bane a littletoo much.
>>81211782
They invent a new record for every single one of these to make the news. It's getting fucking retarded.
>the most money earned on a friday from 12am-2pm
>>81212272
>Any and all fighting between the two heroes was just forced drama that ended on a stalemate because MARTHA.
There was literally nothing wrong with that scene in the context he spent the whole movie/fight calling him a fucking alien.
>>81211922
>the box office drop does not reflect a lack of popularity
>>81212343
Sure it's a fun movie to watch with friends as they get drunk and rip it apart, hell it might even be a great guilty pleasure movie. But the fact still stands that this movie single-handedly killed off comic book movies for a number of years and was the death blow in the Batman movie franchise until Batman Begins
>>81212427
I wanted a real clash. Even if it was short. Not this "godmode Jesus gets beaten up temporarily and gets back up" CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.
I don't mind that Supes was too strong for Batman. It's just, they spent 2 hours failing to hype up the big fight everybody's waiting for and then it just ends on a flat note.
>>81212162
>Not liking 60s Batman
>>81212466
Literally every movie has a drop in box office after the first weekend.
>>81212517
>. But the fact still stands that this movie single-handedly killed off comic book movies for a number of years
Yeah, but it wasn't that long. Blade was out by 1998, or as I call it the movie that the Matrix stole it's swagger from. Xmen was out by the new millennium and Spiderman by 02. This wasn't like how the prequels killed space operas for 5 years.
>>81205380
Come on now DCucks you're just creating new "records" to make your film seem impressive now.
>Have gone to plenty of movies with low expectations only to be surprised at how much I liked the film
>Had low expectations for this film
>It was worse than I feared
I guess that's impressive.
I know I just sound like another /tv/ shitposter but I genuinely didn't enjoy it and felt myself nodding off as the movie went, even though I saw it in early afternoon. The scenes seemed terribly disjointed too, leading to weird changes in tone or scenes that didn't fit well with others.
Also WHY THE FUCK IS GOTHAM RIGHT NEXT TO METROPOLIS. LEX LITERALLY POINTED TO GOTHAM FROM HIS TOWER.
>>81212764
It's more like it killed Batman movies for years. I was in high school when Batman Begins came out and people didn't even want to see it because Batman & Robin left such a bad taste everyone's mouth. And it showed cause it didn't really make that much money. It wasn't until TDK when Batman got super popular again.
>>81212247
There are a lot of odd scenes with no corrilation, I can deal with the dream ones but you have this random, out of place scene straight from a 60s movie of Louis and that General talking for a few seconds and then scene ends to another completely different scene and it's instantly stoped raining.
>>81212818
>WHY THE FUCK IS GOTHAM RIGHT NEXT TO METROPOLIS
It's always been right next to Metropolis.
>>81211300
Same here.
>mfw all the Darkseid buildup and the Trinity fight makes me excited for Justice League now
>but who knows what WB will do if the numbers keep tanking hard with each week
>>81212904
No it hasn't. It's never been.
>>81211833
>throw it in water to dampen the radiation
>probably send someone back to pick it up and put it away more securely once this shit is over with
>whole movie tries to set a dark bleak tone
>Wondy shows up
>Rest of the fight is WUB WUB WUB WUB BWAAAAAAAAAAA
>>81212937
Metropolis is "officially" in Delaware and Gotham is nearly always portrayed as being right across a bay from it, so it would be in New Jersey.
>>81212716
Not really. Most of them? Sure. Majority of those not quite as severe. Some increase due to good reviews and word of mouth.
What I'm trying to say is that it definitely reflects popularity.
![earth1_dcu_east_coast-1024x691[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4HPOirv.jpg "earth1_dcu_east_coast-1024x691[1].jpg")
>>81212937
>>81212809
>>>/tv/
You have to go back.
>>81212937
Yes it has. Its traditional place has always been across the bay from Metropolis.
>>81211300
'Luthor' alone is cancer incarnate and infects every other aspect of the film.
It's even more horrific reading how/why he was cast.
>>81213102
>It's even more horrific reading how/why he was cast.
Care to elaborate?
>>81213102
Honestly if they gave Luthor white face paint and called him The Joker it would have been so much better.
I despise how we know NOTHING about Luthor, why he has so much influence, why he hates Superman, why he's an expert in so many fields alongside being a business mogul... we get no backstory and no motivation.
And if this was the classic bald Business Tycoon Lex I can see glossing over it, but this is such a deviation from normal Lex that you can't just say that everything is the same.
>>81213086
Hi... I'm in Delaware.
>>81213234
We did get backstory, it was just fake articles that no one read.
Marvel is cancer so maybe this movie failing will light a fire under DC's ass and make them take their movie properties in house. The Jews at WB can't be trusted
>>81213096
Smallville being that close to Metropolis just seems wrong.
>>81212936
>buildup and the Trinity fight makes me excited for Justice League now
Sadly it was just a big CGI mess to me that just left me feeling indifferent. Now the scene where Batman was fighting a couple dozen guys while trying to save ma Kent, that I found exciting.
Not saying your opinion isn't valid. Just pointing out it is not universal.
>>81211500
How dare they insult IRL Lex Luthor by comparing him to this movie.
>>81213554
>Sadly it was just a big CGI mess to me that just left me feeling indifferent.
How the fuck else would you do a big superhero fight other than use CGI? What did you think the big throw down with all the Avengers at the end of that movie was done with, stop-motion?
>>81213627
He's going to make America great again. And if the world wants to have the privilege of our protection then they'll have to pay for it.
>>81212162
>Catwoman
>pre-MCU Cap movies
>any F4
>Elektra
Not even close.
>>81212716
>Literally every movie has a drop in box office after the first weekend.
What is Star Wars?
>>81205380
>>Things were far worse in North America than in China. You couldn’t have emptied North American theaters where the movie screened faster if you’d pulled out a gun and started shootingI didn't read the rest of the thread, I sure hope I'm the first to make this joke.
>>81205380
It's sad really. You tell that all the actors involved really gave it 100%. Nobody was phoning it in. All the pieces were there. If only Snyder could just get over the idea that Superman needs to be dark and edgy.
>>81213765
Jonah Hex
The Ghost Rider movies
Superman 3 and 4, at least
I mean, I fell asleep for a minute in the theater - I guess before Batman tried to steal the Krytonite the first time - and this still feels like hyperbole. There was a good chunk of boring build-up stuff that could have been written and cut much more efficiently, but otherwise, meh.
>>81208333
Sure, it's fun to gloat over Snyder's failures, but then you think of all the people who will get hurt because of this and it's sad.
Affleck put in one of the best Batman performances in years and it's going to be associated with shit now. He really wanted this role.
>>81213858
An obvious and noteworthy exception.
Really, though, complaining about Friday-to-Sunday dropoff on Easter weekend is dumb. Between people being off for Good Friday and doing family/holiday stuff on Sunday, it's normal for this particular weekend.
>>81213897
If that wasn't Cavill and Gadot phoning it in, then we're in trouble for Wonder Woman and the Justice League.
>>81213950
He's still being hailed as the best part of the movie
>>81211433
>>81212162
>>81213765
>>81213904
There's still one that surpasses them all...
>>81205779
Zack Snyder career is on death row
He is going to say keep saying "you need me!" until it either works or WB finally boots him
>>81206096
>>81206158
>>81207043
This makes me think WB knew they had a stinker and just wanted to cover it up so they launch it over Easter holiday in hopes they could spin it into "well it was a bad time to release it." However I doubt they expected being 30% and below
>>81214092
tru dat
>>81209961
Goyer was but only after they started filming and brought in Chris to polish it and it's obvious you can't polish a turd
JL is all Chris though
>>81214092
This movie actually made me incredibly angry. Frank Miller loves to go on about how much Will Eisner influenced him. How can you say that and then do THAT to the Spirit? Either he has no self-awareness left or he's a vicious spiteful old fucker.
>>81214092
>>81214282
I don't know. I kinda liked it.
>>81213950
>people are actually feeling bad for Affleck
Guy is a real prick and rich besides, why do you give a shit? He gave a good performance that people are recognizing and he got paid.
Wait. Wait. Wait.
People are actually praising this portrayal of Batman? The useless paranoid schizophrenic who murders people for transporting something for a well-respected businessman in order to steal a weapon to kill an individual who has done nothing but stellar heroics on the admitted 1% chance he might do something bad because bad dreams said so? All delivered to the screen by a drearily boring, deadpan Affleck?
Really?
>>81214373
I enjoyed it, in a camp and stylistic kind of way.
>>81214282
>>81214347
The Spirit was good
>>81213897
I like the way superman is despicted in this movies. he seems more human than other movies. i hate it when he was happy all the time in the 2007 movie
>>81214404
What did Bale ever have going for him, aside from Nolan's stories? If Affleck was boring and deadpan, Bale was a cardboard cutout and a text-to-speed synthesizer.
>>81214463
Shut the fuck up Zack Snyder. You should be packing your bags for when you get Tranked out of Hollywood
>>81212716
Iron Man
Star wars went up
Avengers went up
Ant man went up
Fucking Ant-man saw an increase in sales in week two
Now here's the real question:
Will it stay at #1 at week 2? If not who's gonna shame them?
>>81213858
An anomaly.
What happens next?
>>81214574
Hope and pray that they fire Snyder and hire either Guillermo Del Toro or George Miller to direct JL. If that doesn't happen, then just watch the movies being directed by competent people and pretend his movies don't exist.
>>81214574
Suicide Squad is done
Wondy is done filming and is in post-production
JL is set to begin filming in a couple weeks
So we may see some script changes in JL if WB feels the negative critical reception or underperforming box office returns are severe enough. But I doubt they're going to pull Snyder at such a late juncture.
>>81214682
They could have Affleck direct JL. He's there ready and waiting.
>>81212716
Minions
Frozen
Zootopia
A few of the Ice Ages (Im not digging to find out which ones)
All did about the same or better
I get it you hate it's getting shitted on but don't pull shit out of your ass for it. Time will be the greatest test of it's quality.
>>81214728
I wouldn't mind if Terrio and Affleck went through the script and fixed it up as they went.
Honestly, Affleck's Batman was the most compelling character in the movie, and if reports of him rewriting shit on the fly are to be believed, then he definitely changed things for the better.
>>81213739
>How the fuck else would you do a big superhero fight other than use CGI?
You probably can't. I mean I'm just telling you how I felt. Maybe it was just to big and fake for me to feel invested in it. Maybe big CGI scenes are so overused theses days so that now they just don't feel special to me anymore. Maybe its not the CGI but the directors vision that's the issue. I honestly don't have an answer. All I can say is how I felt, and that feeling was underwhelmed.
>>81214682
>But I doubt they're going to pull Snyder at such a late juncture.
they need to even if it makes it take a year longer they need to get that fucker out of there because he botched two DC films in a row and I doubt viewers by majority will give him a third chance. They will likely wait for word of mouth.
Get that fucker out of the chair now
>>81214663
>Del Toro
They'd never give it to him. He hasn't had a hit in years. He's a great director just not a very profitable one.
>>81214503
He had a superior script.
>>81214728
He doesn't want to. He's been offered it in the past, he thinks it's beyond his scope of directing. Also, go back and watch some interviews where he's asked about if he had any input on BvS and he denies everything from directing tips to writing scenes in his bat suit or. He knew BvS was shit long ago.
>>81214404
Do you just like.... Look for a thing everyone likes then try to make it look like you hated it just so you can be different? Little edgy over here.
>>81214503
I was fine with Bale's flat affect because he was basically written as a kind of empty warrior-monk, a walking facsimile who turned his entire life into an act for the cameras. Guy was basically an angrier, punchier Jedi.
I'm not saying it was a super-accurate comic version or anything but I liked Baleman's interpretation of the character.
>>81213897
You probably don't even read Superman.
>>81213739
Most Marvel films use as much particle effects as possible
There first whole CGI fight was Hulk and Hulkbuster
and every action scene in M.Bay's Transformers is real short of the robots themselves.
I get what you are saying but that last battle was very cast and green screen and nothing else
>>81214729
I'm actually glad it's getting shit on, I don't want Snyder anywhere near this universe anymore. But don't pretend like a drop in box office isn't something that doesn't happen to the majority of these blockbuster tent-poles.
>>81214907
No. I genuinely was surprised. I was keeping myself in a bubble until I saw it today because I wanted to enjoy how shit it was with a cleansed palate. I was blown the fuck away at how bad Batman was portrayed. Not since Kilmer have I seen such a terrible version. Then again, I have no idea why I'm trying to argue this here. /co/ is nothing but Tumblr and casuals now so I'm sure absolutely everyone on this shit board will lap BVS up.
>>81214521
>Will it stay at #1 at week 2? If not who's gonna shame them?
It'll stay #1 because there's nothing coming out. The biggest release this coming weekend is God's Not Dead 2 and it'll only get about half the screens BvS is on.
>>81214982
>Most Marvel films use as much particle effects as possible
>There first whole CGI fight was Hulk and Hulkbuster
This is bait right?
Have you forgotten about Hulk vs. Abomination? Did you actually think that was 2 guys in costumes fighting each other? And they stopped making Iron Man suits a long fucking time ago, now RDJ just wears a black suit with tracking dots.
>>81214857
Only reason Pacific Rim didn't hit bigger is because Warner Bros kneecapped it in distrubtion for Man of Steel.
>>81214513
shut up comic nerd
>>81214521
>Will it stay at #1 at week 2?
I don't think there anything big coming out next weekend so there is not going to be much competition. So there is a good chance it will still be #1. The real question is how much it actually makes.
>>81214521
>Will it stay at #1 at week 2? If not who's gonna shame them?Fireball
>>81211528
But anon, the abundance of new POV cameras may lead to new, niche POV porn.
>>81215197
There already is niche POV porn
>>81215105
>God's Not Dead 2
>implying BvS won't get wrecked by the supernova of star power that is Melissa Joan Heart and Ernie Hudson IN THE SAME FILM
>>81215114
Sorry, I wasn't clear
Most of the city and military was all real in Hulk It wasn't till AoU they completely CGI the whole fight.
>And they stopped making Iron Man suits a long fucking time ago
no they haven't.
what's your source?
>>81215172
After sitting through the mess that is BvS. I am actually considering finally seeing that this weekend.
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice likely will turn a minimum profit of $207.9M once all revenue streams are accounted.
>Financial analysts today assembled a bare-minimum projection for the Zack Snyder movie, which is projected to turn in a domestic B.O. of $375M (2.25 times its $166M FSS) and a global take of $925M.
http://deadline.com/2016/03/batman-v-superman-opening-weekend-box-office-records-1201726300/
>>81215114
>>81215386
also here's cap and ants
They do there best to make it as real as possible
Not that BvS didn't have parts with that attention ironically they were dreams but still.
>>81208905
Watch Attack the Block, Boyega is actually a pretty decent actor
THE GODS HAVE SMILED DOWN UPON US AND REVEALED THE TRUTH.... BvS didn't beat Happy Potter after all:
Harry Potter 8 (2011) $169,189,427
Batman v Superman (2016) $166,007,347
>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=harrypotter72.htm
>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman2015.htm
>>81215315Even ones involving Milana from AT&T?
>>81215114
And they stopped making Iron Man suits a long fucking time ago, now RDJ just wears a black suit with tracking dots.
That is bull-fucking shit anon
>>81208905
Hayden Christensen is set for life, though. He's a succesful architect, still does movies from time tom time and put a baby in Rachel Bilson.
>>81211434
>it could come out of nowhere to do gangbusters. That's essentially what happened to Avatar (the Cameron movie).
And then leave absolutely no lasting cultural impact.
>>81215537
painful
>>81206096
How do you explain China's box office or the Friday-to-Saturday drop then?
>>81215364
>gods not dead 2
i'd laugh my ass off if that happens.probably won't though
>>81213897
Jesse Eisenberg wasn't a bad actor at all, he was just terribly miscast and directed and wrote.
>>81215114
>now RDJ just wears a black suit with tracking dots.
while he has dots he is in a mostly full suit on set.
While not him this shows a stunt man in the suit while on set.
>>81213102
He was originally supposed to be cast as Jimmy Olsenbecause Snyder wanted to make the audience think he was going to be a regular character, but then shock the audience by killing him offbut Eisenberg declined and then Snyder offered him the role of Luthor.
>>81215386
>no they haven't.
>what's your source?
Right in that picture. He's wearing tights and a chestpiece. The rest of his suit is entirely CGI including the helmet In Iron Man 1, they created multiple entire suits for him to wear.
>>81208905
Christiansen actually walked away on his own terms though. He basically realized he was a walking punchline and disappeared into the ether for a few years.
He's making dumb DTV Nic Cage action movies now, but all things considered he seems reasonably happy with it.
>>81213096
Smallville is literally in Kansas. Last time I checked Kansas didn't have a a coast.
>>81213452
Are you seriously blaming BvS being bad on "the Jews"?
I was at the gym earlier and a couple meatheads were talking about BvS. I was pleasantly surprised when they actually critiqued it and said they didn't enjoy it, rather than just going for action. Normies, like all of us, want quality. Capeshit makes its big bucks through repeat viewers. These numbers Forbes is reporting are pretty damning. We'll know what its fate is in 6 days I suppose.
>>81215364
>God's Not Dead 2
Can't wait for this bad boy to drop.
I hope it's just as mean, prejudiced, and badly written as the original.
>>81210207
To be fair, Reynolds put a lot of effort into making that movie good that most other actors wouldn't bother with.
>>81215856
That's not what you said.
>And they stopped making Iron Man suits a long fucking time ago, now RDJ just wears a black suit with tracking dots.
It's not a black suit
it still has armor parts like they have had since IM1 and he had helmets since Iron man 1
And we will have to wait till DVD likely but I won't be shock if a full suit is still in use in Civil War.
Miss me yet /co/ ?
Predict JLA rotten tomatoes score, given Snyder will be the director.
>>81216036
48%
>>81216017
No. Your movie is still shit.
>>81216036
0%
I think at this point no one likes Zack Snyder anymore, not even normies. He's the M Night Shyamalan of capeshit.
>>81216036
>Snyder back
>Terrio back
>Loads and loads of characters
>Even more "profound" themes and religious symbolism
>Actors being salty towards critics.
>Rabid DC fans crying of a Marvel conspiracy and decrying critics as a whole.
It'll be lucky to reach 15%.
>>81215386
>>81215856
They have used all types of suits and it depended on the scene they were in.
Here it's just open helmets and shirts other scenes it's close to the whole armor and then some in between.
Essentially they control what they do based on how easy/hard it is to trick the eye
Looking at BvS I doubt Snyder went in with that mindset.
>>81213950
>Affleck
>Irons
>Leto
>Simmons
His solo Batman will be OP
>>81216017
I know I'm in the minority here, but I would have loved an actual Cronenberg-esque Fantastic Four movie.
Good. I hope this movie underperforms and makes WB rethink letting Snyder write anything for them again.
Giving him JL was bananas.
>>81216091
Don't put that evil on M. His grandparent visit flick was fun as hell. Stupid fun, but fun. I'll be shocked if Zack the Hack ever makes an uptick in quality.
>>81214338
>tfw slowly recognizing Goyer's old leaked script while watching the movie
My anus was devastated
So is there a fun pun name for the failure of this one? Like Badman v Superflop?
>>81210207
>and is on track to do worse than the Fantastic Four reboot
It literally matched Fant4stic this weekend alone
>>81216211
>BATMAN FT. SUPERMAN: RUSH TO THE JUSTICE LEAGUE
>>81216162
The Visit was fucking great, and I say this as someone who's been making fun of M Night since Signs.
He finally made a movie that was intentionally funny again. it was so refreshing after the past decade-plus of sombre, self-important garbage.
>>81216211
Badman v Superbland:
Yawn of Justice
>>81216149
PLOT TWIST: Critics agree Leto is the worst part of SUICIDE SQUAD and an awful Joker.
>>81216252
It certainly matched FF in critical reception
>>81216211
Yawn of Justice is what I hear the most
>>81216142
Batman's armor was like Iron Man's armor. Some of the pieces were real, some parts were just a tracking suit so he could move better. Some of it was entirely real for just standing around.
>>81216274
I like this one. Not the same person that wrote it by the way. Different person who likes that other anon's idea.
>>81216102
I still have hope that Terrio on his own is better than having to rewrite Goyer's trash. Although you can tell Snyder adds in his own shit while filming(any direct quote from TDKR that makes no sense within the context of the movie), there's no way he wrote the Flash's dialogue to Bruce. That shit was so fucking corny.
>>81216142
Rubber CGI Spider Bat circa early 00s Spider-man CGI.
There was a reason Del Toro made his CGI team watch old Kaiju films and instructed them to think of their Kaiju as men in rubber suits.
>>81216306
?
I don't think anyone said otherwise
Hell
>>81215446
Was me confirming
We just got into a talk and you brought up something that wasn't correct and me (with others surprisingly) pointed out what went down
Are you ok anon?
>>81216387
>I don't think anyone said otherwise
>Looking at BvS I doubt Snyder went in with that mindset.
>>81216349
Terrio wrote the script from scratch with input from Snyder, bro.
I know it hurts, but you can't scapegoat Goyer for this. The few snippets that we've heard about his script are nowhere to be seen in the actual movie.
>>81216306
>changing the debate this hard
You want to tell me where anyone said it wasn't?
>>81216291
>Leto, an awful Joker
It's difficult to do a truly bad Joker.
He has so many interpretations, ranging from clown to anarchist to gangster, that almost any perspective could work.
>>81216297
Hypothetical:
SS maxes out at a borderline RT score (50-60%). Leto, like Eisenberg, is universally trashed on by critics. SS features more forced Justice League teases like the three dumb surveillance videos (Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Shazam). More unexplained Darkseid prophecy/visions/imagery that has nothing to do with the plot.
How to salvage then?
>>81216211
Dawn of JUST
>>81207414
China made Terminator: Genisys profitable and even they don't want BvS. Yikes.
>>81216448
not that anon but I took that to be the part with
>Essentially they control what they do based on how easy/hard it is to trick the eye
which I can somewhat agree with in scenes at the end
>>81216482
Whoops I didn't mean to reply in that one
There will be a new season of Brave and the Bold cartoon. However, it will be in Batman v Superman universe.
What's the result.
>>81215037
>tumblr
Ah, okay. Go back to /tv/ please.
>>81215935
Shut the fuck up tumblr
>>81216497
Terminator Sega Genesis was basically the most expensive YouTube fan film ever made. It's crap, but I at least understand why people might enjoy it on a "DUDE LOOK AT ALL THESE FUCKING TERMINATORS" level.
>>81216482
You don't.
At best they keep chugging forward
At worse they kill future projects and stop current to rework the whole thing.
>>81216486
>40%
Seems so high now, doesn't it
>>81215037
>I'm sure absolutely everyone on this shit board will lap BVS up.
You're not wrong about /co/ being shit, but I've seen plenty of people shit on it including in this very thread.
>>81210207
It's actually still some way behind The Passion of the Christ and The Matrix Reloaded if you count international gross. It won't be passing either.
If you don't, it's also behind American Sniper and Saving Private Ryan. The only one of those it's going to pass is American Sniper.
The X-Men point is probably true - even accounting for inflation from last year it's not going to make a huge difference, and by the end of its run Deadpool will almost certain come out, marginally, on top. To the tune of a couple of million.
Interestingly that means that it lost a lot of fans of the X-Men overseas - because the US gross was that much stronger (by about 120 million dollars) so despite having a better gross it may have perversely hurt the franchise quite badly in reputational terms. Then again the difference may be due to it being aimed at a crowd who couldn't get into showings in a lot of countries - the under 15s, mainly. The good news for FOX either way is that they've proved they can make a successful movie on less than half what they've typically been trying to spend - trimming the fat from a franchise that's always been marred by unnecessarily bloated casts and pointless music-video set pieces, so even if grosses come down for the main franchise they'll still be making money.
BvS has already outgrossed Fantfourstic (and most likely will even relative to production costs of the two), but in reputational terms again the future is uncertain: it's possible that it won't make the enormous amounts of money back that it needs to break even, which would also hurt it long term since there would be little chance of continuing as planned without that audience share.
>>81216036
25
>>81216486
Context? Did she actually reveal the ratings and make a kid cry or is this just an edit?
Kind of related but there was a little girl in the theater I went to, couldn't have been more than six years old. She seemed insanely bored and confused by it all.
>>81210020
>Released on Good Friday
>Superman Dies by stab wound
SRAVO BNYDER
>>81216597
kek i will make another when it stops dropping
>>81216714
The video is unrelated, the kid is scared cuz its his first day on school i think
>>81216786
You forgot the blatant Lance of Longinus bullshit too.
Of all the weapons Bats could have made he made a fucking dumbass looking spear.
>>81216349
>That shit was so fucking corny.
Like something a fan would write.
>>81216458
No he didn't.
Firstly we know this because if Goyer's script wasn't used and Goyer had no input, WGA rules mean he doesn't get a writing credit, just a story credit (if his story was used). Writer credits have specific meanings and ignoring them or failing to credit properly results in writer's strikes.
Secondly we know this because by the time Terrio was brought in, filming had already begun.
There are limits to what can be done in that kind of situation. However, I agree with you that a great deal of the problems with this movie probably came from Terrio, and the fact that Affleck was said to be doing his own rewrites also places the blame squarely with him.
>>81216482
If it's reviled and doesn't really justify the costs? Reboot. They're not going to cripple the studio making these things for the next decade if too few people are going to watch them. It would be like expecting a Jupiter Ascending sequel.
>>81215972
It was too boring for normies who would have been pleased if it had just been Batman and Superman punching each other through the whole thing, and too stupid and shoddily made for people who were expecting 'capekino'.
The casual crowd doesn't demand much when it comes to these iconic characters, they just want to see them on the big screen being entertaining and compelling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udPLjAhG_Fc
>>81213005
>that smirk-giving "I thought she was with you" line from the trailer is completely drowned out by WUB WUB bullshit to the point it's actually incomprehensible
for what purpose snyder
>>81215704
Because a lot of people travel on Saturday, and then on Sunday some movie theaters don't even open.
You know I'm not even defending the movie's honor here because I didn't really hate it, but I didn't like it either. What amazes me is how fucking stupid does WB have to be to let this movie open on Easter weekend? They would have known that Friday would be big and then no one would be able to go see it Saturday or Sunday. Word of mouth didn't really help either.
Is WB sweating balls at this point over Justice League's film date being so close? You have to think they're watching this coming weekend very nervously. If this movie tanks hard in its second weekend they have almost no time to make changes to Justice League.
>>81214445
Yeah good at sucking
>>81216902
how do i be a hardcore comix reader like you?
>>81217047
read comics?
>>81217085
is there a technique?
>>81216922
>1:43:21
wew
>>81216714
Two kids sitting in the theater with their mom behind me too. They asked a bunch of questions in the start, then turned very, very quiet. Must have been boring and confusing as hell.
>Bruce is carried out of hole by bats
>Is that how Batman gets his powers??
>Batman is the bad one right?
>Do they hate Superman?
>Is Superman the evil one?
>>81217047
Just meant normal people don't sperg out over small, or sometimes big, changes to the characters. They're not as hard to please as /co/ autists. But they still want the movie to be good, or at least entertaining.
>>81216577
Fuck you hillbilly
>>81215691
sides = gone
No blockbusters are coming out until Civil War in May. Maybe Jungle Book but even then what else? This movie is going to linger for weeks in the top three. if not number 1. They'll have made their money by the time Civil War hits. If it stays on track like Dark Knight Rises (and it has very similar numbers) it will be more than fine.
Whats the debate here? The numbers we have and current trends point to it being a big success like several of the big comic book movies last year. What makes this any different?
>>81213096
How come Batman and his jolly brigade of villains never visit metropolis that much and vice versa?
>>81217476
I remember hearing something about warner bros needing this movie to make a billion to make it worth their while
>>81216871
>and the fact that Affleck was said to be doing his own rewrites also places the blame squarely with him
Affleck said he wasn't involved in the writing process at all and the rumor of him rewriting dialogue in his Batsuit wasn't true. I think he purposefully avoided getting involved because he knew the movie was shit once he found out what it was really going to be about.
